The 'Skeptical Science' kidz are up to no good again

Ah those kidz, what are they up to now? (Update: It has been figured out, see below) The image you see is from their “new” web page  [www.skepticalscience.com/nsh/?] which is some sort of flash javascript program with a bunch of silhouettes of people that can be rotated and moved in a pseudo-3D way. All of the silhouettes are greyed out now, but one can rest assured they be filled in with cartoonish caricatures once the countdown clock on the lower right reaches zero.

skeptical_sci_crowd(h/t from Kadaka K.D. Knoebel)

My guess? John Cook has likely put his failed cartooning talents back to work again. Given the juvenile fascination former cartoonist turned amateur psychologist and numbers bookie for the 97% John Cook has with smearing climate skeptics, this may reveal itself as some sort of interactive “name and shame” application for the top 100 climate skeptics worldwide.

I hope it does, because if so, and if it turns out to be as libelous as I think it will be, it will give a whole bunch of people a reason to sue the pants off that whole team of creepy playtime Nazi cross dressers. Bring it.

Of course it could also be a rah-rah application, where each of the silhouettes is a “real climate scientist”, and the popup text message is all about how they “feel” about climate change…like these clowns.

Whatever it is, it will likely be the caliber of the sort of lowbrow stuff we’ve seen before, like the “designed to be funny but actually horrifying” 10:10 video which blows up children who don’t want to go along with climate change in school.

UPDATE: Commenter Joel O’Bryan has found a hidden logo that gives it away. He writes:

There is a hidden logo in the middle of the field that says:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/nsh/images/q/nsh_logo.png

97 hours of consensus with a link back URL [sks.to/97]

97 hours of consensus? Wow. Just over four days worth of mind numbing claims about a 97% number that has long since been falsified and shown to be little more than a statistical fabrication of Cook and Co. With this episode, Cook’s fixation on that fake 97% number boils down to this:

Einstein_on_insanity

UPDATE2:

UnFrozenCavemanMD notes:

A scan through the javascript reveals it to represent 100 experts each of whom offers a “fact” followed by a description of that person’s expertise.

UPDATE3: Brandon Shollenberger notes in a comment:

If you look at that page, there’s a fair amount of code written. That includes code for displaying avatars associated with specific IDs taken from a JSON file. Currently, a dummy set being used (represented by the 100 silhouettes you can see). If that’s changed, any avatars could be displayed. My assumption they intend to allow customized avatars to be created and then displayed.

There is also code which indicates the JSON file will include other information about those IDs. When you click on an avatar, that information will be displayed. It’s not entirely clear what information will be shown as this is the code for selecting it:

function getSFacts( s ) {

var facts = “”;

if ( s ) {

if (‘t’ in s) facts = facts + s.t + ” “;

if (‘n’ in s) facts = facts + s.n + “”;

if (‘i’ in s) facts = facts + s.i + “”;

if (‘a’ in s) facts = facts + “Expertise: ” + s.a;

}

return facts;

}

My current guess is the ‘t’ variable stands for title (like Mr. or Dr.) while the ‘n’ variable stands for name. That would explain why there is only a space added between them while there are line breaks added between the other variables. I’m not sure what ‘i’ would stand for, but ‘a’ apparently stands for some measure of expertise.

Anyway, it seems this is going to be used as a virtual hangout. People will be able to create avatars, input information about themselves and then join in. I don’t see anything in the code to indicate users will be able to chat/send each other messages, but that may be added (or I could have missed something).

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116 thoughts on “The 'Skeptical Science' kidz are up to no good again

  1. I’d like to enter into this debate, Anthony, but I have not received emails for over two weeks. I have tried and still no luck. I have ticked notify several times and no luck.

    • Nothing I can do for you. Emails are handled by wordpress.com, not me. If they aren’t reaching you then they are likely being intercepted by a server based spam filter, or your email program itself.
      But there’s no need to self cripple yourself because you don’t get notification emails, just visit and look around.

      • I would never ever choose to get email notifications about new posts. Why should I rob myself of one of the greatest pleasures every day; to click on WUWT and find out for myself what’s up with what?

    • With the volume of posts on this site it is quite likely that some fliter software will identify it as spam. You will get something like 100 emails with the same title within the space of a few hours. A lot of heuristic spam filters will trigger on that as spam.
      I had this problem a few years ago on a much lower volume forum and had to shout at my ISP to get them to turn off thier automatic mess and let me decide what was spam and set up my own filtering.
      Having said that you’d need to be real lonely to want to be notified of every post on WUWT. Several threads a day with hundreds of notifications ? No thanks.
      If you are still feeling bored you could also sign up for linux kernel developement ML, that’ll keep you busy. 😉

      • I always thought that email notices were to inform people of replies to their own posts. Maybe this isn’t the case.

      • I made that mistake on JoNova’s once on one of the “Big News” threads. No, WP spams you with everything that happens.
        That earnt me about 700 bits of email clutter to deal with.

  2. Some good news from down under:
    Australia Uranium deal Critical for India’s rising Energy Demands
    http://www.niticentral.com/2014/09/05/uranium-deal-with-australia-critical-for-rising-energy-demands-237379.html
    Australia to power India’s energy market
    Australia is poised to turbo-charge a rapid escalation in living standards in India through the supply of affordable and abundant energy such as natural gas, coal, and uranium
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-to-power-indias-energy-market-as-tony-abbott-settles-terms-for-uranium-trade-20140905-10cq6y.html

    • An an Aussie deep in the uranium business before retirement, I note with sadness that Australia still has no nuclear power generation, not even related industry like enrichment, and little appetite in many States for uranium exploration and mining. It is the old ‘quarry Australia’ mentality that sees India well ahead of us, while we continue to mollycoddle alternative energy carpetbaggers who must know by now that they are not merely uneconomic, but also subtracting from better effort and possibilities.
      It will be a measure of the year-old government to reverse this.

      • Yup – it’s a concern that the main basis of the Oz economy is to create holes in the ground and export the contents to someone else to add the value. Not sustainable in the long run (or even the short run if China slows down)

      • When our U.S. nuclear aircraft carrier visited Perth and Hobart we weren’t even allowed to more to a pier, had to anchor out and take ferries to shore. The nuclear navy has been extremely safe over its long history. I never understood all the terror about nuclear energy. Very nice visit, however, lovely people.

      • As the “anti nuke Left” morphed into the “Green, anti-oil, anti nuke Left” you have to wonder if Moscow is still trying to pull their strings. It is just as important to Russia’s strategic (and now financial) interests as ever.
        The willingness of nostalgic lefty commenters on the Russian westward push to blame the West for our “aggression” causes me to wonder.

    • heard the greens going off about how india /Pakistan are in a nuke arms race today..
      and sledging the deal.
      par for course.
      we have enough coal for us, rather we dont go nuke till that U beat one you ran item on is proven and then see.

    • Gee the Greenies must be quivering with rage! How dare those teeming millions of dark skinned people get healthy, happy and prosperous! Their gnawing fear has come to pass…

  3. First 100 victims of the climate holocaust?
    We should play a guessing game. Winner to be hospitalized as mentally unwell since he or she reasons like Cookie

  4. Anthony,
    If it does turn out to be a childish smear, then it is simply more indication of how you know you are winning the argument they don’t want to have.

  5. Re the 10:10 video – children were being exploded for simply having doubts and questions about the story of catastrophic AGW.
    The video was taken down very soon after going up (and was made with the talents of Richard Curtis and Franny Anderson to name but two). Although it was taken down, it can still be found on YouTube.

    • It’s interesting that of the dozens who participated in the 10:10 video, not one said, “This is sick.” That says a lot about their mentality.

      • Things that interest me more than that:
        1. finding out who or what “honey boo boo” is
        2. finding out who kim kardashian is
        3. finding out what niki minaj’s music sounds like
        4. watching a 12 hour marathon of “the view”
        5. attending a lecture given by michael mann
        6. tuning my satellite radio to NPR
        7. a NatGeo “earth in the balance” marathon, in HD
        8. repeating the horrible episode that ruined this year’s Cosmos
        9. listening to my smug, self-centered brother talk about AGW
        10. listening to ANY smug, self-centered leftist talk about AGW.

      • 10. listening to ANY smug, self-centered leftist talk about AGW.
        That is getting more and more enjoyable as time progresses. Remember, the joy is not in the offset. It’s in the trend.

  6. You are correct… I am a 3D Photography enthusiast; it appears to be a depth map which when combined with another image file and using the right can be manipulated in a number of ways for interesting results.

  7. There are 99 figures there. I’ll bet they’re going to do something on the 99.99999% scientists believe in agw paper.

  8. I think it’s bad enough they are suing us. After a certain point, fighting fire with fire gets out of control. Don’t get me wrong, I wish us victory in any fight we have to fight and maybe some we even don’t. But I don’t want to see our side going there. Bad news down that road.
    Besides, what happens when Robespierre takes over Climate Nuremberg (as he always does) and they (we?) haul me up on charges of Dropping, Adjusting, and (gasps from around the court) Homogenizing? Who will come along with me? For Fellowship?

  9. Antony,
    I don’t know if it’s wise to do this variation of feeding the trolls. WUWT gets a huge amount of traffic and ranks around 9800 in Alexa. SKS is a mere borderline phenomenon ranking in the 88,000 region. If you feed them with links they may grow. Also articles like these may be counter productively strengthen their adepts in the believe of the demonic character of sceptics. Don’t accept their war. Also maybe recognise that this type of polarisation is just early “stage 1 classification” in the accumulation to genocide. Take the high ground. Ignore them and stay friendly.
    A better alterative is concentrating on the science. Maybe my first blog could be inspiration.

    • I agree, Anthony. This article is pointless.
      If there is something that _requires_ rebuttal when it goes up , fine, but I see no point in blind speculation about what they _may_ be about to do and 50 ways in which it _may be_ crap, irrelevant, unfounded ….. when it actually happens.
      Meanwhile bumper grain harvest in UK
      http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/sep/05/hot-dry-weather-cereal-harvest-british-farmers
      Fruit good too but most of benefit will rot because we started a scantions war with Russia who took a large part of european production.
      Russia too has had a very good year for grain.
      Must be all that cost-free extra fertiliser that is “polluting” the atmosphere.

    • SKS who? Anthony, ignore those guys. They make the keystone cops look bright.

      Cook & gang do not deserve to be taken seriously. That they conned their way into Presidential politics only reflects on the insipid nature of politics. Cook & gang deserve only humiliation, exposure, parody and laughter.

    • Nah.
      The timer will expire, and then it will Pause.
      The Pause will be totally natural, easily explainable, predictable, and “proves our point”. And just you lot wait until the Pause stops.

  10. If you enlarge the image you can see they are silhouttes of the Simpsons in some cases complete with four digit hands. Doh!

  11. It appears they are attempting to look like a picture from an infrared camera. Some of the feet look to be a darker color than others. Maybe they will show horrific events of excessive heat from an infrared perspective.

  12. Maybe it’s the souls of the 77 or so so-called climate scientists who comprise the so-called 97% of scientists who have pushed the global warming scam. Their souls are decending into the dark deep hot heat at the bottom of the sea from the sinking ship CAGW never to be heard from again, just a faded grey blot from the “climate science community” team.

  13. Well, by my rough count, there’s about 100 silhouettes. It’s always fun to speculate, so I’m going to say it has something to do with the 97%. Three of these kids will be doing their own thing.

  14. “The ‘Skeptical Science’ kidz are up to no good again”
    Again?
    Don’t you mean “still”?
    I agree with others: that site which, is a cornucopia of logical fallacies and falsifications, isn’t worth the effort of a mouse click. The exception to drawing attention to them would be whenever one is rebutting what is said/shown there, and that rebuttal should not be on their site, partly because of the items noted here that brand the site “unreliable”.
    In the real world, a site that is named “Skeptical Science” would be abbreviated “SS”, but no, even that simple truth is distorted by them and they insist they be “SkS”. Geez, if they can’t get their initials right why would anyone accept anything they proclaim? Oh, and don’t tell me that the “SS” has some unfortunate association; they could have called their site “The Skeptical Science Website” with the abbreviation “TSSW”.
    “By their fruit you will know them” – Forrest Gump, paraphrased

  15. On the main page of “Skeptical Science”, this widget is right above the Hiroshima counter claiming that “global warming has already exploded several gadzillion Hiroshimas”. I guess that in 23 hours, they will make a mega-9/11-style attack predicted by Michael Crichton in “State of Fear”, in order to return “global warming” into the public discourse as an issue that matters.

  16. Their Target Market by numbers would be well researched. They are rapidly losing ground with the informed, science-savvy population segment and so target the MSM-fed, ill- informed, the naïve and the young searching for a ‘cause’. Hence the IQ level of their promotional claptrap.
    They are rapidly losing ground with the informed, science-savvy population segment and so all they can do is demonize them.

  17. they benefit from having the backing of media/ pols which, at the least, prevents their lunacy from being properly reported. It won’t always be that way. I still believe “bad” science eventually loses out, though it may take a while given the momentum/ support of the CAGW crazy-train.

  18. At first glance, prior to my morning coffee, I saw in that picture dozens of shadowy bowling pins. Perhaps an earth-patterned bowling ball will “strike” them down?
    /snark

    • Yeah I’d noticed that too. That device is the countdown clock. If it had been spelled “watts” it would have been an obvious reference to Anthony. I dont think it means anything.

  19. There’s obviously there’s some sort of been a call to action that brought about this blitz underway.
    IMHO it will backfire if skeptics push how Democrats own this climate movement lunacy and all of the attempts to infringe low cost energy and alter behavior with sweeping government policies.
    Contrary to the fantasy that voters will reward the lunacy Democrat politicians and candidates will take a beating in November.
    BUT skeptics need to quit pussy footing around and lose their phony high ground avoidance of partisan rhetoric.
    Get real and get a pair. Lash out like this political war demands and label the Democrat with their own insane agenda. No one else is going to do it.
    Soft tones and reluctance gives them a free pass to deceive and is a recipe for failure.
    Emerging government climate policy and expenditures to implement them are reaching crisis levels and the voting public has no idea every aspect of their lives and livelihood are under assault.
    Misappropriation on a grand scale threatens every legitimate need and essential service.
    Better sound our own alarms. Sooner rather than later.

    • That was haggard.
      “There’s obviously been some sort of call to action that brought about this blitz underway.”

  20. Well, if it’s “name and shame” I hope to see some important names in there. They better get it right or I’m gonna protest. People finding themselves in such a nomination should wear it like a badge, and we’ll applaud them here. It’ll sorta be like the Academy Awards.

  21. I wonder if this site is worth it? http://www.donotlink.com/dnl/faq
    “When you are discussing or alerting others to a website that promotes a fraud, scam, cult or other questionable business and you link to that site, search engines will (after a while) improve the offending site’s rank.
    Therefore, more people will find these shady websites, and will be exposed to their content without getting the proper context.
    That’s where donotlink comes in.”

    • Well maybe they got Eric Clapton to write a song about 97% and how we are all gonna die if we don’t listen to the wisdom of the 97%

  22. I wonder if the much vaulted American sheeple are not as stupid as AGW thinks they are. It’s true they may not be the sharpest tool in the shed or the brightest penny in the roll, however, in the land of constant scams, slight of hand, and if I have to explain it to you, you wouldn’t understand it, most Americans have a basic understanding of science. The only thing constant about AGW is the new explanations of the weather we are seeing. “It’s warmer, that’s why there is more snow”. Counterintuitive? I can tell you nobody believes that. That one statement has done more to discredit AGW than all the blogs and posts put up here. If nobody asked on a survey, this issue would be non existent, but since they do, it ranks last among American concerns.
    So if they put up a cartoon about us, good. We are alive and well. And if they happen to read something on one of this sites, all the better. Whatever they publish can’t be any worse than the thin ideas from the IPCC. What people see is last year a brutally cold winter in the US, they don’t see 20 ft of water covering Manhattan, they don’t see either pole melting, they do see the Great Lakes frozen over. When you been putting out alarmist material for 20 years and weather/climate is pretty much the same, well, yawn, I’m not really interested. I wouldn’t be here either except for the political agenda the IPCC has going, and that they are just plain wrong. (and I think we are headed to a LIA or at least a cool down with little or no planning) The US will go to this UN party to cut our own throats. We can sign a treaty (or an accord) with minor players that have nothing to loose and everything to gain. Meanwhile, every other political actor is looking for a way to get off the inconvenient truth. Selling Ice Cream in July is a wonderful idea to promote global warming, except it was 50 F. Yep, I sure feel like eating ice when it’s 50 F out, sounds like fun! (in reference to the ice cream stand they put up here in Denver trying to close coal plants)

    • If so, sounds like quite a good format that is eye catching and informative. The sceptical side could do with a similar format to rebut the facts or put forward alternative views
      tonyb

    • Because “consensus” science has always been so succeesful? No.
      Successful only in the form of success for entrenched interests. But not so for true scientific breakthroughs to new paradigms. Galileo, Darwin, Pasteur, Einstein, and Drs Barry Marshall and Robin Warren all faced the challenge of consensus resistance to a prevailing entrenched interest. Those entrenched interests have universally been motivated by belief, ego, and reputation.
      The American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) published their “What we know” climate consensus orthodoxy earlier this year.
      http://whatweknow.aaas.org/get-the-facts/
      This politicization of AAAS is the antithesis of scientific advancement, but is better understood in the Consensus of advancement of politicized science. AAAS should change its name AAAPS.

    • With the cartoon characters and the date reference, an internet search turns up what could be a reference to Dragoncon 2015, which is 4 – 7 September 2015.
      A note on Dragon Con (I had to go look this up, as I had no idea what dragon con was)
      Dragon Con
      Science Fiction Convention with Anime, Comic, Costume, Fantasy, Steampunk and TV
      Science fiction would seem to be right up SKS and Cook’s modus operandi.

  23. I disagree with the quote attributed to Einstein. What he’s describing is stupidity, not insanity. Insanity is believing in things which don’t exist and expecting them to be useful.

  24. I can’t say I understand this post. The previous versions were weird, and now it says this has been “figured out” quoting:

    There is a hidden logo in the middle of the field that says:
    http://www.skepticalscience.com/nsh/images/q/nsh_logo.png
    97 hours of consensus with a link back URL

    But that doesn’t tell us what the app actually does. Another update says:

    UnFrozenCavemanMD notes:
    A scan through the javascript reveals it to represent 100 experts each of whom offers a “fact” followed by a description of that person’s expertise.

    But that’s not what I see in the Javascript. There is no singular “fact” proffered by the Javascript. There is a variable named facts which is used for display purposes. As you can guess, it being plural means there are multiple facts. The code related to it is:
    function getSFacts( s ) {
    var facts = "";
    if ( s ) {
    if ('t' in s) facts = facts + s.t + " ";
    if ('n' in s) facts = facts + s.n + "";
    if ('i' in s) facts = facts + s.i + "";
    if ('a' in s) facts = facts + "Expertise: " + s.a;
    }
    return facts;
    }

    The plus sign is used to concatenate characters. That means the four variables (t, n, i and a) in the array s are combined and placed into the variable facts. The first two are separated only by a single space. My presumption is t stands for title (like Mr. or Dr.) and n stands for name. A line break is then added, after which variable i is appended. Another line break is added then the Expertise entry is appended.
    Each person does not offer a “fact.” The “facts” appears to be information about each person.
    I was asked about this in e-mail a couple days ago. I looked into it, and based on my examination of the page and code, I said:

    If you look at that page, there’s a fair amount of code written. That includes code for displaying avatars associated with specific IDs taken from a JSON file. Currently, a dummy set being used (represented by the 100 silhouettes you can see). If that’s changed, any avatars could be displayed. My assumption they intend to allow customized avatars to be created and then displayed.
    There is also code which indicates the JSON file will include other information about those IDs. When you click on an avatar, that information will be displayed. It’s not entirely clear what information will be shown as this is the code for selecting it:
    function getSFacts( s ) {
    var facts = “”;
    if ( s ) {
    if (‘t’ in s) facts = facts + s.t + ” “;
    if (‘n’ in s) facts = facts + s.n + “”;
    if (‘i’ in s) facts = facts + s.i + “”;
    if (‘a’ in s) facts = facts + “Expertise: ” + s.a;
    }
    return facts;
    }
    My current guess is the ‘t’ variable stands for title (like Mr. or Dr.) while the ‘n’ variable stands for name. That would explain why there is only a space added between them while there are line breaks added between the other variables. I’m not sure what ‘i’ would stand for, but ‘a’ apparently stands for some measure of expertise.
    Anyway, it seems this is going to be used as a virtual hangout. People will be able to create avatars, input information about themselves and then join in. I don’t see anything in the code to indicate users will be able to chat/send each other messages, but that may be added (or I could have missed something).

  25. From the article:
    …each of the silhouettes is a “real climate scientist”, and the popup text message is all about how they “feel” about climate change…like these clowns.
    ‘Moonbattery’ has a rundown on some climate clowns here. Click on each pic for an explanation of their eco-lunacy.

  26. if the figures are going to represent 100 CAGW believers and each is going to give one piece of climate information — anyone want to take bets on what percent will be inaccurate information?
    Since this is John Cook-the Books I am betting over 60%. But perhaps that is too conservative.

  27. There are not 100 facts in all of human knowledge that support CAGW. But of course as we all know John Cook-the-Book’s idea of what constitutes a fact is not the normal one.

  28. Just been reading the article on chicken littles – Pittsburgh Tribune editorial calls the IPCC ‘climate-clucking Chicken Littles’
    Could someone produces 100 chicken little silhouettes – each one announcing some ridiculous claim made about GW?

  29. I don’t think you’re s’posed to hack in to their public code and figure things out like this because intellectual property or something. And stay away from folders with pictures with alarmists in knotsee uniforms because private supersecret you’re not allowed in here with the cool kids and stuff.

  30. “Given the juvenile fascination former cartoonist turned amateur psychologist……………..”
    ———————————
    Is he ( John Cook) really a psychologist!?
    From what I have seen with his obsession with the “97%” and the number 97 seems like he has covered only the first part of that word or title……. and still too far out of reaching for the second part, the “logist” part, and very probably he will be stacked (or be a stuck-up) permanently with the first part of that word or concept. Reminds one of the top leadership of the Nazis’.
    I don’t think he and his co-mate Dana do [really] care one way or another about the fallacy of their 97% claim and the related potential psychological damage to their faithful flock of AGWers due to the periodically repeated “hammering” of such a claim .
    For as long as that claim channels more and more power to them over their sheepishly following “flock” they will be happy, content and feeling very secure.
    The most important thing to them seems to be only the maintaining of their acquired status-position-occupation and any “milk and honey” that comes with it.
    The most sinister aspect of their 97% claim is the claim of authority through the most basic and primitive natural drive for and towards safety for most of life species (not saying all) is a claim of authority through the “safety in numbers’.
    In one way it offers a safety and in the other hand it takes way the individuality and independency, especially from thinking.
    We humans through our evolution, especially the civic one, have learned to avoid and rely as less as possible on “safety in numbers” does not seems to work well for us. Generally turns us against each other to a point of slaughter.
    Our history shows that our evolution and our safety is dedicated and recognized to the minority. To the brighter minds, bravest of hearts, the wiser ones, the sacrificing lot, the just and fair. All this lot together does not make it even to 3% of humanity.
    As we do not have a perceived predator anymore as a species and the “safety in numbers” mostly a pray necessity and behaviour, the implementation of such behaviour as a necessity will and does create a condition of pray-predator amongst us and turns us against each other and becomes a way of channeling power to the “good guardians” of the “inocent pray”……. the so much self proclaimed “pastors” or “shepherds” of the desperate flock…….like in this case of Cook and Dana.
    For as long as their flock keeps taking that kind of mantra repeatedly and periodically as their main food for thought they will be subjected to the will of these two “little” dictators.
    “Cook in a Nazi uniform” could very well be just the perception, a mirror image, the mental image, that he himself holds about himself. He just seems to have pictured exactly how he perceives and sees himself. Probably very atractive and powerful to him.
    Seems like these guys will stop not to any limit, a human limit, I mean.
    It seems like the latest relation to the 97% is the number 97 which by some “chance” or “coincidence” seems to point in space and time to a very specific and historical date, a date which to the sheeplishly “brainwashed flock” translates as the most modern vicious carnage of “predator-prey” image, and therefore…… further reminding them about the authority of 97% claim which offers them a safety and to their pastors-shepherds a continuity with power and abuse. A new method or trick on keep hammering the already exhausted flock.
    The way the number 97 has being used, seems like a psychological trick enforcing further the already hammered in place “safety in numbers”
    Seems like the “good pastors” can not withhold themselfs from abusing, profiteering, disrespecting and mocking in regards and towards the other people memories, sufferings, loss, deeply hurt feelings and still unhealed physicall and mental wounds.
    Sorry for the rather long comment, but I had to express the view point I hold in this particular matter.
    Cheers
    [“pray-predator” may actually be more correct than “prey-predator” for the masses today…. 8<) .mod]

  31. Since the resemblance of some of the grey profiles to characters from the Simpsons appears so obvious , does this dissemination of a copy on a public site breach copyright law?
    Is there a lawyer in the house?

  32. I’m trying to imagine why 97 merchants would come out and say “I’ll stake my reputuation on this Snake Oil, it really does grows hair and cures the measels!”
    If they really are scientists, how can they simply spout propaganda while ignoring all the holes in their climate theory? This project appears to be career suicide for many.
    “Oh you were one of those people who pushed the Global Warming Fraud. I’m sorry, but we abide by the scientific method here. Don’t have a place for you. But I think McD’s down the street needs a new night manager…”

  33. Pure marketing ploy by Cook to attempt to communicate ‘something’ or ‘anything’ to regain trust in: his work product; his blog’s integrity; his blatantly biased pre-science activism.
    Hey, he is trying . . . however, he is limited to ‘come-from-behind’ type strategies.
    Actually, to me the idea of the marketing ploy shows some interesting creativity.
    John

    • Not surprising…desperation not always brings about negative results…sometimes it can drive some to really step up their game.

  34. If they’re letting people log in and post a “fact,” wouldn’t it be fun to inundate it with real skeptics?

  35. Note; They have updated the logo image and removed the text stating the link back URL:
    That URL was: sks.to/97. and it still works and redirects to:
    skepticalscience.com/nsh/#

    • That’s not surprising. There was no reason for it to be there in the first place. It wasn’t visible, and it didn’t do anything. Odds are it was there inadvertently.

      • No. It has a purpose (maybe not a big one) or they wouldn’t have taken the time to recompose the png image, otherwise they would have just deleted it from the HTML code. The 97 hours means something to whoever is editing the app.

      • Welp, I can admit when I’m wrong. I was wrong.
        I stand by my interpretation as the most sensible one though. The naming convention used in the code is wrong for what they did, and this app is just stupid. Why would someone make an app to show static content? Sure, for the next few days there is a bit of dynamicism to the app, but after that, this app will be nothing but a list of 100 quotes. That makes it a huge waste of time.
        I guess that’s what I get for assuming the best from the Skeptical Science group. I assumed they used a sensible naming convention. I also assumed they made an app that’d be meaningful. A virtual hangout would take more work than this, and it would actually be interesting. This thing could be written in a day.
        The sad thing is what I described could be done with this same framework. The backend would obviously need to be very different, but the frontend could left be virtually unchanged.

  36. Poking fun aside, it is worth remembering that virtually every science based association or academy endorsed the IPCC and the IPCC largely based its projections on climate models that have since been falsified.

  37. Right now, among the 100 cartoon characters, there are 3 insane alarmists and 97 are kept hidden. So 97% will be against the climate alarmism up to the moment when John Cook fraudulently changes the remaining 97 silhouettes to alarmists, too.

  38. The Trenberth quote is alarming. Basically all weather is now climate change related. Yikes
    The guy with the guitar is the ice core expert, Dr. Talley.

  39. What would be very interesting is add the dates to each of these quotes. Many of these quotes are quite old from what I can tell. Others like Mann’s seem to say that even if the evidence didn’t say one thing, we’d still know its true anyway – no matter what anyone or the evidence might say.

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