EPA document supports ~3% of atmospheric carbon dioxide is attributable to human sources

NOTE: this post has an error, see update below. – Anthony

From a Wry Heat reprinted with permission of Jonathan DuHamel

A new post on The Hockey Schtick reviews a new paper “that finds only about 3.75% [15 ppm] of the CO2 in the lower atmosphere is man-made from the burning of fossil fuels, and thus, the vast remainder of the 400 ppm atmospheric CO2 is from land-use changes and natural sources such as ocean outgassing and plant respiration.”

This new work supports an old table from the Energy Information Administration which shows the same thing: only about 3% of atmospheric carbon dioxide is attributable to human sources.  The numbers are from IPCC data. 

Look at the table and do the arithmetic: 23,100/793,100 = 0.029.

URL for table: http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/1605/archive/gg04rpt/pdf/tbl3.pdf

EPA_Table3pct

If one wanted to make fun of the alleged consensus of “climate scientists”, one could say that 97% of carbon dioxide molecules agree that global warming results from natural causes.

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UPDATE:

Thanks to everyone who pointed out the difference in the chart and the issues.

I was offered this post by the author in WUWT Tips and Notes, here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/tips-and-notes/#comment-1696307 and reproduced below.

The chart refers to the annual increase in CO2, not the total amount. So it is misleading.

Since the original author had worked for the Tucson Citizen I made the mistake of assuming it was properly vetted.

The fault is mine for not checking further. But as “pokerguy” notes, it won’t disappear. Mistakes are just as valuable for learning. – Anthony Watts

wryheat2 says:

July 28, 2014 at 12:28 pm

Mr. Watts,

John Droz suggested I contact you.

On my blog, I commented on the reasearch by Denica Bozhinova on CO2 content due to fossil fuel burining. She apparently scared The Hockey Schtick into taking down his post on the matter. However, there is an older table from EIA which I reproduce on my post.

Denica Bozhinova has commented extensively, and frankly, I can’t understand her position since she seems to contradict what she wrote in the abstract to “Simulating the integrated summertime Ä14CO2 signature from anthropogenic emissions over Western Europe”

See my post here (you may reprint it if you wish):

http://wryheat.wordpress.com/2014/07/19/only-about-3-of-co2-in-atmosphere-due-to-burning-fossil-fuels/

Jonathan DuHamel

Tucson, AZ

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Alan Robertson
August 6, 2014 12:07 pm

Samuel C Cogar says:
August 6, 2014 at 6:33 am
F.E. says: “BTW, do you know of one non-human process, except for the biosphere, which consumes oxygen? As far as I know everything that could be oxidized is already oxidized on earth…”
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S.C.-
Since you have spoken of this issue more than once without making comment about the processes involved, it would be more helpful if you would present an argument based on scientific principles and data, rather than repeating your gambit of using logical fallacies.
I expect to see tactics relying on ad hominem attacks on blogs within the climate fearosphere, but here at WUWT?

August 6, 2014 1:24 pm

fhhaynie says:
August 6, 2014 at 8:23 am
What about the temperature dependent solubility of oxygen in water? How significant is that? How does that change with time?
As the temperature variations of the oceans are largely restricted to the upper few hundred meters (the “mixed layer”), the outgassing of oxygen by warming oceans is rather modest. It is accounted for in the calculations of the oxygen balance, here for the period 1990-2000:
http://www.ferdinand-engelbeen.be/klimaat/klim_img/bolingraph.gif
Original at: IPCC TAR, Chapter 3, page 206, fig. 3.4 :
http://www.grida.no/climate/IPCC_tar/wg1/pdf/TAR-03.PDF

Samuel C Cogar
August 7, 2014 3:54 am

Ferdinand Engelbeen says:
August 6, 2014 at 8:05 am
If you know of processes outside the biosphere which produce or consume considerable amounts of oxygen in current times, I am very interested”.
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Ferdinand, to locate an O2 consuming process “outside the biosphere” one would have to go into outer-space or deep into the earth’s mantle, the latter being an impossibility to accomplish, thus your above statement is bogus from the get-go because neither locations have a direct affect on the earth’s atmospheric O2.
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The only natural processes I know of which consume oxygen today are biological processes.
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Lightening and UV radiation consumes O2, ……. and to wit:
Oxygen, which is very reactive, is a component of hundreds of thousands of organic compounds and combines with most elements.
Oxygen enrichment of steel blast furnaces accounts for the greatest use of the gas. Large quantities are also used in making synthesis gas for ammonia and methanol, ethylene oxide, and for oxy-acetylene welding
”. http://www.radiochemistry.org/periodictable/elements/8.html
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If humans burn fossil fuel, one can calculate how much O2 is consumed and the balance of the O2 measurements is what the biosphere consumed or produced”.
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YUP, and if Reindeer and Wildebeest burn biomass fuel, one can calculate how much O2 is consumed and the balance of the O2 measurements is what the biosphere consumed or produced
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Plants produce oxygen, the rest of the biosphere consumes oxygen (except what is stored long term as coal, oil, gas)”.
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You ignored a far, far greater sink for O2 than what coal, oil & gas is …. and which is constantly producing vast quantities of CO2 which is the source for your above said “O2 consumption”.
Read both and learn, to wit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limestone and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_carbonate
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But I am always eager to learn”.
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That’s a good attitude, Ferdinand, …. and best you begin with the use of Google to “read up on thingys” prior to posting what you think you know about them ….. because at present me thinks you, …. as the ole saying goes, ….. “know just enough to be dangerous”.

Samuel C Cogar
August 7, 2014 4:23 am

Alan Robertson says:
August 6, 2014 at 12:07 pm
S.C.-
Since you have spoken of this issue more than once without making comment about the processes involved, it would be more helpful if you would present an argument based on scientific principles and data, rather than repeating your gambit of using logical fallacies
”.
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Alan R, this is a science-based forum for adults, …. not elementary school children. If you are not familiar with or know the definitions of the words and/or verbiage that you are reading …. then use Google or a dictionary. Then after learning the definition of said “wording” …. then you resolve for yourself whether or not the author used it correctly in his/her commentary.
I can not do your thinking for you every time you read “strange sounding” commentary. But I just did said for the issue in question ….. for you and Ferdinand …..in my above posting of …. August 7, 2014 at 3:54 am

Alan Robertson
August 7, 2014 9:50 am

Samuel C Cogar says:
August 7, 2014 at 4:23 am
“…this is a science-based forum for adults, …. not elementary school children. “
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With those words, you have condemned yourself.
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If you are not familiar with or know the definitions of the words and/or verbiage that you are reading …. then use Google or a dictionary. Then after learning the definition of said “wording” …. then you resolve for yourself whether or not the author used it correctly in his/her commentary. “
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The meanings of everything FE said are quite clear, to all but you. In your responses to FE, you attempted to hide your apparent ignorance by diverting the discussion away from topic, by way of personal attacks and other logical fallacies. Everyone taking part in this conversation is, or should be aware that English is not FE’s native language, but still, his words are quite clear and there is nothing untoward about his remarks. YOU are the only one here who doesn’t get what he is saying, or at least, pretends to misunderstand. Either way, you have put yourself in a very bad light.
For you to persist with your childish and mean personal attacks on FE’s English puts you in the same category as a garden variety bully who would make fun of a crippled child’s handicap. FE’s English is certainly no handicap. Everything he has said is clear, concise and far more grammatically correct than typical speech by the average native- English speaker. Nevertheless, you have used his words as pretense for personal attacks. What an $$hole.
SC- Through several posts, you still have not addressed the scientific argument presented to you by FE (and reiterated by me,) but instead have employed several logical fallacies to detract readers from the fact that you don’t have the faintest clue what you are talking about. Now that you’ve turned your mean- spirited personal attacks against me (I gently warned you about that once, already,) you’ve put yourself squarely in my sights. Lock and load.
Earlier, you alluded to making statements in a public scientific forum for all the world to read. If only you had taken your own advice… In a way, it’s a pity that you seem too stupid to understand the extent to which you have exposed yourself, with your incoherent remarks. Not only is it quite obvious that you are a scientific know- nothing, but you have also shown the world that you are a mean spirited bully.
Since you are apparently unwilling, or incapable of understanding, or responding logically to any scientific questions posed to you, but instead divert the scientific discussion to your own sick purpose, why don’t you just go away, you sick, mean troll.
At one time, you would come to WUWT and make interesting comments, but you haven’t exhibited that capability in a long time. You’ve obviously slipped a cog, Coger. You’d be better off spending your time seeking help from a mental health professional.
I’m done, here. After several futile attempts to get you to straighten up your demented behavior and speak to the scientific issues presented, it’s become abundantly clear that you aren’t capable of taking that step. Any more efforts on my part would be wasted.
You have become someone who isn’t worth talking to.

Samuel C Cogar
August 8, 2014 10:53 am

Alan Robertson says:
August 7, 2014 at 9:50 am
The meanings of everything FE said are quite clear, to all but you”.
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To all but me, …. HUH?
Alan R, here following are16 direct links to criticizing comments in responses to Ferdinand’s “tripe n’ piffle” ….. so maybe you can explain why you INTENTIONALLY averted your eyes and your mind to them and the remaining ones in this thread ….. and singled me out to be your “whippingboy” for venting your anger and dastardly dislike of anyone and everyone who “picks on” poor Ferdinand, …. to wit:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697168
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697187
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697243
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697245
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697281
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697283
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697288
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697387
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697389
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697392
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697427
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697447
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697676
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697784
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697801
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/#comment-1697873
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Everyone taking part in this conversation is, or should be aware that English is not FE’s native language,
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That is not “my” problem. GETTA clue, Alan R, the definitions of English words that are used in scientific discussions are known and used throughout all cultures simply because the English speaking countries have been dominate in/of scientific investigations and discoveries for the past 200+- years. Anyway, in science, the verbiage is usually ALWAYS self-defining. Thus the word “biosphere” simply means …. “the sphere encompassing the biology or biological of the subject in question”.
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SC- Through several posts, you still have not addressed the scientific argument presented to you by FE (and reiterated by me,) ……..”.
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Alan R, I am only obligated to address the “part of” Ferdinand’s argument that is false, silly or asinine, …. not his entire or total argument.
If I negate one (1) part of his argument, it NEGATES all of his argument ….. and he should then restate his argument without said falsehood, error or mistake. The reason for restating his argument is to insure that it still “holds true” when said falsehood is removed from it as a “qualifying” entity.
One has to “trash” all of their associations, correlations, estimations, guesstimations, percentageations, obfuscations, etc. from their argument ….. before they have a chance in hell of proving it is a literal truth or fact.
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…. but instead have employed several logical fallacies to detract readers from …….
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One who does not possess the early nurtured personality traits of “logical reasoning” and ”intelligent deduction” that are prerequisite to their learned knowledge and associated recall of said ….. should not be accusing anyone of positing “logical fallacies”.
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……… to detract readers from the fact that you don’t have the faintest clue what you are talking about”.
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Only in your wildest of dreams, Alan R, could you support such a dastardly claim.
I have Degrees in both the Physical and Biological Sciences, a semi-photographic memory with exceptional “recall” abilities, 20 years experience in Logical Design/Engineering Design (cited proof of: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3449735.pdf … to negate any of your slanderous remarks about the aforesaid) …. and years ago after the pee water had quit running down my leg outta my diaper I have acquired almost 70 years of real life experiences in, of and about the natural world around me, … so, … iffen you want to follow up on this claim of yours, …. to wit:
Now that you’ve turned your mean- spirited personal attacks against me (I gently warned you about that once, already,) you’ve put yourself squarely in my sights. Lock and load”.
You had better bring your BIG dog(s) along with you.
Cheers

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