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Apollo 7 Astronaut Walter Cunningham has described climate alarmism as fraud, while presenting a preview of his upcoming Heartland presentation scheduled July 7-9 to MRCTV.
“Since about 2000, I looked farther and farther into it,” Col. Cunningham (USMC, Ret.) tells MRCTV in an exclusive interview. “I found that not one of the claims that the alarmists were making out there had any bearings, whatsoever. And, so, it was kind of a no-brainer to come to the conclusion.”
Cunningham blames the media for climate hype.
“The media are largely to blame for public misconceptions – not because they’re intentionally misleading the public, but because they “just don’t want to go into the time and trouble to find out.” “If they do go into it and look at it for themselves, they become a lot more neutral in their presentation,” he says.”
Cunningham ends with a scathing attack on the current state of scientific inquiry.
“I can only tell you that, even back in the days of Apollo, we didn’t have to face this kind of nonsense”
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pokerguy says:
July 6, 2014 at 7:38 am
“Whether it’s Al Gore or Walt Cunningham, I’m under no obligation to accept anything as fact just based on who the speaker is. Nullius In Verba.”
I’ll call your “argument from authority” and raise you a “strawman argument.” Nobody’s saying that you are obligated.
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I can’t believe you guys are saying the name Al Gore and you’re both considering it an argument from authority.
How does that work?
cn
“Biggest fraud in the field of science”, definitely a Marine colonel, he doesn’t mince words.
WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE WEATHER ? – JUNE 2014 – YouTube
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=A39yX9bMsvY
The opening panic scene is priceless.
Ralph Kramden says:
July 6, 2014 at 3:17 pm
CACA is a crock, plain & simple.
randomransoms says:
July 6, 2014 at 3:18 pm
WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE WEATHER ? – JUNE 2014 – YouTube
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=A39yX9bMsvY
What has happened, and continues to, is that the weather is being hyped by the MSM. Any kind of bad weather now is a commodity. It’s in our faces 24/7, a continual barrage. It is what used to be called “yellow journalism”, and the MSM now practice it shamelessly.
Additionally, there is always the connection, either direct or implied, is that things are getting worse due to “manmade climate change”. It’s total nonsense, of course, but the sheeple and those too stupid to think for themselves buy into it.
Mr. Crunch in the end you will have to take the word of somebody. However much you look and read, unless you study a particular branch of fundamental phisics you will not follow the explanation surrounding the radiative behaviour of CO2. Most of what you read on these blogs is simplistic regurgitation of Wikipedia.
But if you insist on looking. Study the fundamental working of the CO2 laser if only to understand how the atmospheric CO2 is not like it.
Like Col. Cunningham, after researching it and running a lot of numbers myself, I came to the same conclusion — a “no-brainer” — the CAGW evidence a house of cards (made of tissue paper).
FWIW, I too am a retired NASA scientist. During my career, I found that most Scientists (including my colleagues at NASA — and me too when I was very young) were often blind to (or rationalized) any fact that contradicted the tenets of their specialty — particularly if it put their specialty or favorite hypothesis “at risk”. So, don’t expect the more “invested” Climate Scientists to suddenly “see the light” — even if its a “no-brainer”.
William R. says:
July 6, 2014 at 10:43 am
“The MSM are not intentionally misleading the public. They truly believe the narrative, because it fits entirely within their anti-capitalist, pro-socialist, “some people are bad so we must control all people, and you should do what I say because I am smarter than you and know what’s best for you” world view. It is the intersection of confirmation bias, argument by authority, availability bias, and a few other logical fallacies.”
Well that makes no sense. Ur Leftist Lenin said, “Words are one thing, actions are another.” Meaning, they do it intentionally. As a lot of business interests hinge on CO2AGW as well, we can call it fascist – as CO2AGW is a merger of the interests of corporations and the state, which is the definition of fascism. (And US MSM are concentrated in the hands of 5 corporations)
The Apollo mission controllers had a saying: “In God we trust. Everybody else must bring data.”
Those were the glorious days of NASA when astronauts went to the moon in less than a decade of preparation. When real scientists and engineers ran NASA. The likes of Hansen is an insult to the intelligence of former NASA personnel.
Dr. Strangelove says:
July 6, 2014 at 10:30 pm
“When real scientists and engineers ran NASA.”
…so the guys and gals behind the Mars Exploration Rovers aren’t real scientists?
http://marsrover.nasa.gov/home/index.html
July 6, 2014 at 10:30 pm |Dr. Strangelove says:
July 6, 2014 at 10:42 pmMartin says:
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That is amusing, Marsrover was launched in 2003 so that would, allowing for research, design, procurement and testing, put its inception somewhere in the late 1980’s … and probably before the “project management” team were out of college.
Martin
JPL is okay. Unlike in 1960s GISS is no longer doing science under Hansen.
Of course. That reminder should have been addressed to the person I quoted and disputed:
Eustace Cranch says:
July 6, 2014 at 6:28 am
He’s being way to generous with regard to the media.
The reason they don’t look into it, is two fold:
First, it’s what they want to believe.
Second, it’s what’s coming from their side, so they have no interest in questioning it.
Considerably less than 97% of Apollo astronauts believe in this nonsense.
One of our worst prime ministers, Gordon Brown, described sceptics as ‘flat-earthers’. So, according to him, some men who walked on the moon are flat-earthers.
The ignorance of many believers like Brown, Obama and Ed Davey seems to be limitless.
Chris
Eustace Cranch says: July 6, 2014 at 6:28 am
Whether it’s Al Gore or Walt Cunningham, I’m under no obligation to accept anything as fact just based on who the speaker is. Nullius In Verba.
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Yes, but who would you rather rely on, for trustworthy information … ?
A mediocre and boastful politician, who is riding a popular band-wagon and has his hands firmly in the Climate till (cash register).
An educated, successful, rational scientist and astronaut, who has nothing to gain and everything to lose, by standing up for what he thinks to be the truth.
I know who i would trust the most.
R
To the Media, there are only two stories of any importance: Good News and Bad (Bad is best). No problem; no story.
Walt Cunningham is an Apollo astronaut and has Bachelors, Masters and Doctorate degrees in Physics. But that doesn’t make him right. It’s his scientific arguments which make him right.
But his background gives him cred with the public. We can’t ignore the aspect of public relations as the fight against the AGW beast isn’t scientific, it’s political.
Right you are, Sir Astronaut! Except it isn’t only the media and their “laziness”, it’s the media and their willing complicity. And it’s the progressives in both parties who want the total control that “climate change” mitigation policies would give them.
Follow the money…and the power. You get to the source of the stink.
One of my favorite absurdist leaps of logic is…Lewindowsky & company in a peer-reviewed paper find that AGW skeptics are nut cases who are highly inclined to believe conspiracy theories such as the moon landing being faked. In Mr. Cunningham’s statement and the letters sent to Congress signed by many of the Right Stuff scientists, engineers, & astronauts in recent years these individuals have shown themselves to be doubters…therefore they obviously think that they faked their accomplishments. Thank goodness that we have academics to point these things out to us great unwashed.
So, if Eustace Cranch is correct (funny hat tip to Cordwainer Smith), there is no reason for anyone to say anything, because the truth value of what one says would not be determined by who one is?
Being a climate change denier, I’m sure he must believe the moon landing were a hoax too…
When you try and link the news page on this article to FB it won’t play but directs you to some weird smash a duck app – censorship at its finest or just a stuff up?
He says, “The media are largely to blame for public misconceptions – not because they’re intentionally misleading the public, but” Except for one thing. They really are intentionally trying to mislead the public. It is so obvious. That is why they never report any of Obama or the Democratic party’s wrong doings, which have been too numerous to count and getting more outrageous as time goes by. That is why they only hire reporters with extreme liberal points of view. Lets tell it like it is and stop covering for CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, Huffington Post, Washington times, New York times and the LA Times. These are all just propaganda blogs for the progressive-communist agenda.