On 'denying' Hockey Sticks, USHCN data, and all that – part 1

Part 2 is now online here.

One of the things I am often accused of is “denying” the Mann hockey stick. And, by extension, the Romm Hockey stick that Mann seems to embrace with equal fervor.

While I don’t “deny” these things exist, I do dispute their validity as presented, and I’m not alone in that thinking. As many of you know Steve McIntyre and Ross McKitrick, plus many others have extensively debunked statistics that went into the Mann hockey stick showing where errors were made, or in some cases known and simply ignored because it helped “the cause”.

The problem with hockey stick style graphs is that they are visually compelling, eliciting reactions like whoa, there’s something going on there! Yet, oftentimes when you look at the methodology behind the compelling visual you’ll find things like “Mike’s Nature Trick“. The devil is always in the details, and you often have to dig very deep to find that devil.

Just a little over a month ago, this blog commented on the hockey stick shape in the USHCN data set which you can see here:

2014_USHCN_raw-vs-adjusted

The graph above was generated by” Stephen Goddard” on his blog and it generated quite a bit of excitement and attention.

At first glance it looks like something really dramatic happened to the data, but again when you look at those devilish details you find that the visual is simply an artifact of methodology. Different methods clearly give different results and the”hockey stick” disappears when other methods are used.

USHCN-Adjustments-by-Method-Year

The graph above is courtesy of Zeke Hausfather Who co-wrote that blog entry with me. I should note that Zeke and I are sometimes polar opposites when it comes to the surface temperature record. However, in this case we found a point of agreement. That point was that the methodology gave a false hockey stick.

I wrote then:

While Goddard’s code and plot produced a mathematically correct result, the procedure he chose (#1 The All Absolute Approach) comparing absolute raw USHCN data and absolute finalized USHCN data, was not, and it allowed non-climatic differences between the two datasets, likely caused by missing data (late reports) to create the spike artifact in the first four months of 2014 and somewhat overstated the difference between adjusted and raw temperatures by using absolute temperatures rather than anomalies.

Interestingly, “Goddard” replied and comments with a thank you for helping to find the reason for this hockey stick shaped artifact. He wrote:

stevengoddard says:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/05/10/spiking-temperatures-in-the-ushcn-an-artifact-of-late-data-reporting/#comment-1632952  May 10, 2014 at 7:59 am

Anthony,

Thanks for the explanation of what caused the spike.

The simplest approach of averaging all final minus all raw per year which I took shows the average adjustment per station year. More likely the adjustments should go the other direction due to UHI, which has been measured by the NWS as 8F in Phoenix and 4F in NYC.

Lesson learned. It seemed to me that was the end of the issue. Boy, was I wrong.

A couple of weeks later in e-mail Steven Goddard circulated a new graph with a hockey stick shape which you can see below. He wrote to me and a few others on the mailing list this message:

Here is something interesting. Almost half of USHCN data is now completely fake.

Goddard_screenhunter_236-jun-01-15-54

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/01/more-than-40-of-ushcn-station-data-is-fabricated/

After reading his blog post I realized he had made a critical error and I wrote back an e-mail the following:

This claim: “More than 40% of USHCN final station data is now generated from stations which have no thermometer data.”

Is utterly bogus.

This kind of unsubstantiated claim is why some skeptics get called conspiracy theorists. If you can’t back it up to show that 40% of the USHCN has stopped reporting, then don’t publish it.

What I was objecting to was the claim if 40% of the USHCN network was missing – something I know from my own studies to be a false claim.

He replied back with a new graph and the strawman argument and a new number:

The data is correct.

Since 1990, USHCN has lost about 30% of their stations, but they still report data for all of them. This graph is a count of valid monthly readings in their final and raw data sets.

Goddard_screenhunter_237-jun-01-16-10

The problem  was, I was not disputing the data, I was disputing the claim that 40% of USHCN stations were missing and had “completely fake” data (his words).  I knew that to be wrong. So I replied with a suggestion.

On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Anthony  wrote:

I have to leave for the rest of the day, but again I suggest you take this post down, or and the very least remove the title word “fabricated” and replace it with “loss” or something similar.
Not knowing what your method is exactly, I don’t know how you arrived at this, but I can tell you that what you plotted and the word “fabricated” don’t go together they way you envision.
Again, we’ve been working on USHCN for years, we would have noticed if that many stations were missing.
Anthony

Later when I returned, I noted a change had been made to Goddard’s blog post. The word “fabrication” remained but made a small change with no mention of it to the claim about stations. Since I had open a new browser window I had the before and after that change which you can see below:

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/goddard_before.png

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/goddard_after.png

I thought it was rather disingenuous to make that change without noting it, but I started to dig a little deeper and realized that Goddard was doing the same thing he was before when we pointed out the false hockey stick artifact in the USHCN; he was performing a subtraction on raw versus the final data.

I then knew for certain that his methodology wouldn’t hold up under scrutiny, but beyond doing some more private e-mail discussion trying to dissuade him from continuing down that path, I made no blog post or other writings about it.

Four days later, over at Lucias blog “The Blackboard” Zeke Hausfather took note of the issue and wrote this post about it: How not to calculate temperature

Zeke writes:

The blogger Steven Goddard has been on a tear recently, castigating NCDC for making up “97% of warming since 1990″ by infilling missing data with “fake data”. The reality is much more mundane, and the dramatic findings are nothing other than an artifact of Goddard’s flawed methodology.

Goddard made two major errors in his analysis, which produced results showing a large bias due to infilling that doesn’t really exist. First, he is simply averaging absolute temperatures rather than using anomalies. Absolute temperatures work fine if and only if the composition of the station network remains unchanged over time. If the composition does change, you will often find that stations dropping out will result in climatological biases in the network due to differences in elevation and average temperatures that don’t necessarily reflect any real information on month-to-month or year-to-year variability. Lucia covered this well a few years back with a toy model, so I’d suggest people who are still confused about the subject to consult her spherical cow.

His second error is to not use any form of spatial weighting (e.g. gridding) when combining station records. While the USHCN network is fairly well distributed across the U.S., its not perfectly so, and some areas of the country have considerably more stations than others. Not gridding also can exacerbate the effect of station drop-out when the stations that drop out are not randomly distributed.

The way that NCDC, GISS, Hadley, myself, Nick Stokes, Chad, Tamino, Jeff Id/Roman M, and even Anthony Watts (in Fall et al) all calculate temperatures is by taking station data, translating it into anomalies by subtracting the long-term average for each month from each station (e.g. the 1961-1990 mean), assigning each station to a grid cell, averaging the anomalies of all stations in each gridcell for each month, and averaging all gridcells each month weighted by their respective land area. The details differ a bit between each group/person, but they produce largely the same results.

Now again, I’d like to point out that Zeke and I are often polar opposites when it comes to the surface temperature record but I had to agree with him on this point; the methodology created the artifact. In order to properly produce a national temperature gridding must be employed, using the raw data without gridding will create various artifacts.

Spatial interpolation (gridding) for a national average temperature would be required in a constantly changing dataset, such as GHCN/USHCN, no doubt, gridding is a must. For a guaranteed quality dataset, where stations will be kept in the same exposure, producing reliable data, such as the US Climate Reference Network (USCRN), you could in fact use the raw data as a national average and plot it. Since it is free of the issues that gridding solves, it would be meaningful as long as the stations all report, don’t move, aren’t encroached upon, and don’t change sensors- i.e. the design and production goals of USCRN.

Anomalies aren’t necessarily required, they are an option depending on what you want to present. For example NCDC gives an absolute value for the national average temperature in their State of the Climate report each month, they also give a baseline and the departure anomaly from that baseline for both CONUS and Global temperature.

Now let me qualify that by saying that I have known for a long time that NCDC uses in filling of data from surrounding stations as part of the process of producing a national temperature average. I don’t necessarily agree with their methodology as being perfect, but it is a well-known issue and what Goddard discovered was simply a back door way of pointing out that the method exists. It wasn’t news to me and to many others who have followed the issue.

This is why you haven’t seen other prominent people in the climate debate ( Spencer, Curry, McIntyre, Michaels, McKitrick) and even myself make a big deal out of this hockey stick of data difference that Goddard has been pushing. If this were really an important finding you can bet they and yours truly would be talking about it and providing support and analysis.

It’s also important to note that Goddards graph  does not represent a complete loss of data from these stations. The differencing method that Goddard is using detects every missing data point from every station in the network. This could be as simple as one day of data missing in an entire month, or a string of days, or even an entire month which is rare. Almost every station in the USHCN at one time or another is missing some data. One exception might be the station at Mohonk Lake, New York which has a perfect record due to a dedicated observer, but has other problems related to siting.

If we were to throw out an entire month’s worth of observations because one day out of 31 is missing, chances are we’d have no national temperature average at all. So the method was created to fill in missing data from surrounding stations. In theory and in a perfect world this would be a good method, but as we know the world is a messy place, and so the method introduces some additional uncertainty.

The National Cooperative Observer network a.k.a. co-op is a mishmash of widely different stations and equipment. the co-op network is a much larger set of stations than the USHCN. The USHCN is a subset of the larger co-op network comprising some 8000 stations around the United States. Some are stations in Observer’s backyards, or at their farms, some are at government entities like fire stations and Ranger stations, some are electronic ASOS systems at airports. The vast majority of stations are poorly sited as we have documented using the surface station project, by our count 80% of the USHCN as poorly sited stations.  The real problem is with the micro-site issues of the stations. this is something that is not effectively dealt with in any methodology used by NCDC. We’ll have more on that later but I wanted to point out that no matter which data set you look at (NCDC, GISS, HadCRUT, BEST) the problem of station siting bias remains and is not dealt with. for those who don’t know NCDC provides the source data for the other interpretations of the surface temperature record, so they all have it. More on that later, perhaps in another blog post.

When it was first created the co-op network was done entirely on paper forms called B – 91’s. the observer would write down the daily high and low temperatures along with precipitation for each day of the month and then at the end of the month mail it in. An example B-91 form from Mohonk Lake, NY is shown below:

mohonk_lake_b91_image

Not all forms are so well maintained. Some B-91 forms have missing data, which can be due to the observer missing work, having an illness, or simply being lazy:

Marysville_B91

The form above is missing weekends because the secretary at the fire station doesn’t work on weekends and the firefighters aren’t required to fill in for her. I know this having visited this station and I interviewed the people involved.

So, in such an imperfect “you get what you pay for” world of volunteer observers, you know from the get-go that you are going to have missing data, and so, in order to be able to use any of these at all, a method had to be employed to deal with it, and that was infilling of data. This has been a process done for years, long before Goddard “discovered” it.

There was no nefarious intent here, NOAA/NCDC isn’t purposely trying to “fabricate” data as Goddard claims, they are simply trying to be able to figure out a way to make use of it at all.  The word “fabrication” is the wrong word to use, as it implies the data is being plucked out of thin air. It isn’t – it is being gathered from nearby stations and used to create a reasonable estimate. Over short ranges one can reasonably expect daily weather (temperature at least, precip not so much) to be similar assuming the stations are similarly sited and equipped but that’s where another devil in the details exists.

Back when I started the surfacestations project, I noted one long-period well sited station, Orland was in a small sea of bad stations, and that its temperature diverged markedly from its neighbors, like the horrid Marysville Fire station where the MMTS thermometer was directly next to asphalt:

marysville_badsiting[1]

Orland is one of those stations that reports on paper at the end of the month. Marysville (shown above) reported daily using the touch-tone weathercoder, so its data was available by the end of each day.

What happens in the first runs of the NCDC CONUS temperature process is that they end up with mostly the airports ASOS stations and the weathercoder stations. The weathercoder reporting stations tend to be more urban than rural since a lot of observers don’t want to make long distance phone calls. And so in the case of missing station data on early in the month runs, we tend to get a collection of the poorer sited stations. The FILNET process, designed to “fix” missing data goes to work, and starts infilling data.

A lot of the “good” stations don’t get included in the early runs, because the rural observers often opt for a paper form mailed in rather than the touch-tone weathercoder, and those stations have data infilled from many of the nearby ones, “polluting” the data.

And we have shown back in 2012, those stations have a much lower century scale trend than than the majority of stations in the surface network. In fact, by NOAA’s own siting standards, over 80% of the surface network is producing unacceptable data and that data gets blended in.

Steve McIntyre noted that even in good stations like Orland, the data gets “polluted” by the process:

http://climateaudit.org/2009/06/29/orland-ca-and-the-new-adjustments/

So, imagine this going on for hundreds of stations, perhaps even thousands early on in the month.

To the uninitiated observer, this “revelation” by Goddard could look like NCDC is in fact “fabricating” data. Given the sorts of scandals that have happened recently with government data such as the IRS “loss of e-mails”, the padding of jobs and economic reports, and other issues from the current administration I can see why people would easily embrace the word “fabrication” when looking at NOAA/NCDC data. I get it. Expecting it because much of the rest of the government has issues doesn’t make it true though.

What is really going on is that the FILNET algorithm, design to fix a few stations that might be missing some data in the final analysis is running a wholesale infill on early incomplete data, which NCDC pushes out to their FTP site. The process gets to be less and less as the month goes on, as more data comes in.

But over time, observers have been less inclined to produce reports, and attrition in both the USHCN and and the co-op network is something that I’ve known about for quite some time having spoken with hundreds of observers. Many of the observers are older people and some of the attrition is due to age, infirmity, and death. You can see what I’m speaking of my looking through the quarterly NOAA co-op newsletter seen here: http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/coop/coop_newsletter.htm

NOAA often has trouble finding new observers to take the place of the ones they have lost, and so, it isn’t a surprise that over time we would see the number missing data points rise. Another factor is technology many observers I spoke with wonder why they still even do the job when we have computers and electronics that can do the job faster. I explained to them that their work is important because automation can never replace the human touch. I always thank them for their work.

The downside is that the USHCN and is a very imperfect and heterogeneous network and will remain so; it isn’t “fixable” at an operational level, so statistical fixes are resorted to. That has both good and bad influences.

The newly commissioned USCRN will solve that with its new data gathering system, some of its first data is now online for the public.

USCRN_avg_temp_Jan2004-April2014

Source: NCDC National Temperature Index time series plotter

Since this is a VERY LONG post, it will be continued…in part 2

In part 2 I’ll talk about things that we disagree on and the things we can find a common ground on.

Part 2 is now online here.

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Darren Potter
June 25, 2014 8:17 pm

“… in order to be able to use any of these at all, a method had to be employed to deal with it, and that was infilling of data. ”
One issue is the “infilling of data” lacked proper notation in databases, and well documented method of how the infilling of data was created.
On flip side of this is keepers of GHCN data started dropping data from selected weather stations that in previous releases had those records, with a propensity of those selected weather stations being located in colder locations.

June 25, 2014 8:23 pm

[snip – this wildly off-topic stuff started by Nik has no place here, sorry – Anthony]

Darren Potter
June 25, 2014 8:23 pm

NikFromNYC says: “O.K. this is now just everyday boring.” “EXHIBIT A: “Using drugs and hypnosis”
You do know the website your posting the above quoted on deals with Alarmism (shams) of Anthropological Global Warming?

June 25, 2014 8:24 pm

Anthonly, I wonder if NikFromNYC knows anything at all?

An Inquirer
June 25, 2014 8:41 pm

Anthony, I do follow your explanations, and I understand your reasoning, but I believe that important points are being missed in this discussion. #1) Alarms should ring if the adjustments are greater than the trend that supposedly is worrisome. The reason for adjustment is understandable, but the degree and even the direction of the change is questionable. Therefore, to base policy on such a adjusted series is perilous. #2) Natural phenomenon do not match the outcome of the adjustments. If the adjustments were reasonable, then the Great Lakes ice would have been at a typical boring level. if the adjustments were reasonable, we should consistently be seeing all-time highs for states. If the adjustments were reasonable, we would be seeing lakes drying up like they did in the 1930s. (I know that some alarmists point out a lake in Georgia and a lake in Texas that were at record low levels during their recent droughts — but these lakes did not exist in the 30s — nor in the droughts of the 50s.)

NikFromNYC
June 25, 2014 8:45 pm

[snip – please see the note above, this is wildly off-topic – Anthony]

NikFromNYC
June 25, 2014 8:50 pm

You are right, Anthony, simply, activists be damned.

Darren Potter
June 25, 2014 9:14 pm

sunshinehours1 says: “There are 51 stations that had 360 values without an E flag from 1961-1990.” “That means only 51 out of 1218 stations have relatively complete data to use as a baseline.”
51 Apples to compare to 51 Apples.
Now back that up to few number of Apples that existed back in 1742 and still exist today…

RossP
June 25, 2014 9:28 pm

I have cut and pasted this from Steve’s blog
” For example in 2013 there were 95,004 final USHCN monthly temperature readings, which were derived from 70,970 raw monthly temperature readings – which means there were 34% more final readings than actual underlying data. This year about 40% of the monthly final data is being reported for stations with no corresponding raw data – i.e. fabricated. ”
Can someone please explain to this simpleton what is wrong with the claim from Steve. ( I’m not interested in whether the word fabricated is right or wrong –personally I’d use a stronger word)

Frank K.
June 25, 2014 9:32 pm

Zeke H. – I remember in a thread a while back that you had access to the NCDC software that does the adjustments of the raw data (particularly TOBS). I tried the link you provided but it was a dead link (apparently). Could you please provide us with a valid link to this software? I would like to examine the methods they use for processing the data. Thanks in advance.

Nick Stokes
June 25, 2014 9:55 pm

RossP says: June 25, 2014 at 9:28 pm
‘I have cut and pasted this from Steve’s blog
” For example in 2013 there were 95,004 final USHCN monthly temperature readings, which were derived from 70,970 raw monthly temperature readings – which means there were 34% more final readings than actual underlying data. This year about 40% of the monthly final data is being reported for stations with no corresponding raw data – i.e. fabricated. ”
Can someone please explain to this simpleton’

Could we start with you or SG explaining how 1218 stations can generate 95004 monthly readings in a year?

NikFromNYC
June 25, 2014 10:03 pm

That’s why you have to move here, you can’t get it online. The social network. True humanity. Normalcy.
Other opinions BANNED.
[Reply: Oh, stop it! ~mod.]

Bill Illis
June 25, 2014 10:09 pm

I propose we freeze the historical temperature record prior to 2011.
No more adjustments to the old records. None. Freeze them as they are.
Maybe problems remain but I see no reason why 1903 temperatures continue to get adjusted down every month – at least 3 of the 12 months in 1903 are adjusted down every single month.
If we are dealing with 1,000 stations in 1903 and 6,000 today, there is absolutely no math involving those stations that results in the 1903 record going down every month. The TOBs adjustment should have been completely implemented years ago. What homogenity adjustment can drop 1903 temperatures now? The base period ended 14 years ago. 1903 happened 110 years ago. It should be completely “done” now.
Write your congressman to pass a new law freezing the historical temperature record of ALL stations prior to 2011.

NikFromNYC
June 25, 2014 10:16 pm

Chain gangs. All of you, pathetically. Low light darkness. But Goddatd is God. I see. Yeah, you thus earn priesthood, you bafooons. Now you win all debate, hicks and cranks.

RossP
June 25, 2014 10:40 pm

Nick Stokes
You are right with your question. Steve G admits he made an error but the percentage difference does not change.
“Good catch. I was accidentally doing cumulative for the year. The correct numbers for 2013 are 14616 and 10863 Percentage doesn’t change.”
Corrected figures
“For example in 2013 there were 14,613 final USHCN monthly temperature readings, which were derived from 10,868 raw monthly temperature readings – which means there were 34% more final readings than actual underlying data. This year about 40% of the monthly final data is being reported for stations with no corresponding raw data – i.e. fabricated.”

Sleepalot
June 25, 2014 11:08 pm

NicFromNYC Dude, seriously, you need to chill out.

mobihci
June 26, 2014 12:21 am

I will take your set of always positive adjustments and raise you- here in australia we dont mess around!
we have our new top quality ACORN data showing the daily Tmin HIGHER than the daily Tmax in more than a thousand records. supercharged adjustments!
and the solution to this problem is apparently to just ” set both the max and min equal to the mean of the two.” haha
http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=3000
from memory these guys (bom) used to say that infilling and altering data with site changes etc would all sort themselves out with some going up and some going down, which is a fair enough assumption if there are grids forming the new data. is that what happens though? my guess this is the point being made by goddard.

June 26, 2014 12:53 am

I can’t get by this graph:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/ushcn/ts.ushcn_anom25_diffs_urb-raw_pg.gif
I assume the trend continues and that similar corrections have been/are being applied to global data. The current Watts/Goddard squabble doesn’t change that.

June 26, 2014 1:02 am

Anthony, in part 2, Please address the issue of adjusting previous direct measurements. That does not make any sense to me, and it seems to be a common concern. Also, is there any way to to adjust the confidence intervals to reflect the fact the actual number of measured data points is lower than it would appear. That should send the uncertainty up quite a bit.
NikFromNYC, Please calm the hell down. This is not an issue to hyperventilate over. I understand Goddard has been a jackass to you, but let’s stick to the data and what it says. Even rat bastards can hit the truth now and then.

RokShox
June 26, 2014 1:03 am

Re: Steve Case
Interesting question: What method does NOAA itself use to produce that plot?

Stephen Richards
June 26, 2014 1:25 am

REPLY: Some actual data does come in quite late, sometimes months later. Remember that the B-91′s are mailed in.
You must have some really slow posuies in the US. Some of the replaced data from 2013 is still missing.
You are on the wrong tack here Anthony. Change tack to the Steve Mc piste.

richard verney
June 26, 2014 1:40 am

Bill Illis says:
June 25, 2014 at 10:09 pm
//////////////
And lets restore them to what they were before this hysteria took off. Eg., Lets restore them to what the record said say back in 1980.
There should never be adustments to raw data, merely caveats i9dentifying issues with that data.
If TOB has changed, merely mention that TOB has changed. Any adjustment for TOB is a guess, may be an educated guess, but a guess nonetheless.
The problem is that it appears to a large extent that ‘we’ are merely interpreting the effects of the adjustments that we have made to the temperature record these past 30 or so years. If those adjustments are bad, then we have destroyed/basterdised the record and it then tells us nothing of importance.

June 26, 2014 2:27 am

“… Maybe problems remain but I see no reason why 1903 temperatures continue to get adjusted down every month – at least 3 of the 12 months in 1903 are adjusted down every single month. …” — Bill Illis
I think that Steve Goddard has made that point over and over. There is no honest reason to change data in the past. There is especially no reason to change data in the past when it always cools the past and warms the present. This is obviously dishonest handling of the data. I bet they are even destroying the original records so that the data set could never be restored to original. (anyone know about that?)
I would also point out that Steve Goddard made plain that he was using a nom de plume to protect his work conditions a long time ago. Why are attack dogs now claiming that this is somehow dishonest? You people know that “Mark Twain” was not his real name don’t ya? Was Samuel Langhorne Clemens a fraud?
As a final note; it is very obvious that the keepers of the data sets are warmists who use every trick to warm the present and cool the past. Do any of you people really trust these alarmists to honestly adjust the temperature records? (especially the ones in the distant past!) Come on now; do you really want us to just trust them?

Nick Stokes
June 26, 2014 2:33 am

Steve Case says: June 26, 2014 at 12:53 am
“I assume the trend continues and that similar corrections have been/are being applied to global data.”

No. TOBS is an issue with the volunteer observers of the US Coop. In ROW, observers are usually employees who are given instructions.
richard verney says: June 26, 2014 at 1:40 am
“If those adjustments are bad, then we have destroyed/basterdised the record and it then tells us nothing of importance.”

No record has been destroyed. Unadjusted records are published along with adjusted.
The purpose of the adjustment is to make a consistent record for calculating a regional or global average. We looked a few days ago at Wellington, where the station moved in 1928 from Thorndon at sea level to Kelburn at 128 m. So there is a record since 1856, but a drop in 1928 which is not due to climate, and has no place in a global average. No-one is saying that Kelburn or Thorndon records were wrong, but to use the whole record, you have to adjust for consistency.

charles nelson
June 26, 2014 3:16 am

As I write this. Steven Godard has at the top item on his blog a simple animation which flashes between two graphs which have been overlaid. The graphs are allegedly from the same Government organisation and illustrate the same data. They show temperature changes since 1880 and they have been substantially altered between earlier and later versions with the later graph showing a steeper warming trend.
Now there are only three possible explanations for this.
1. Steve Goddard has faked these graphs.
2. The graphs are real and they are evidence of scientific malpractice…or
3. These graphs are real but the alterations are justifiable.
Now this isn’t quantum physics, there is no uncertainty principle, there is no cat in a box waiting to find out if it’s dead or alive, there’s no hedging and no fudge.
This is real straight forward science.
1. 2. or 3. ?