Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
The lack of cycles in the solar wind isn’t surprising when you analyze this paper. There is very little sign of any kind of annual cycle, which makes perfect sense because the sun doesn’t run by earthly clocks … the sun doesn’t know much about “one year for earthlings”.
Over at the Hockey Schtick, I saw a post discussing a new study (paywalled here) of the solar wind as a possible amplifying mechanism for the sun’s effect on climate. It’s called “Effects on winter circulation of short and long term solar wind changes”, by Zhou, Tinsley, and Huang (hereinafter ZTH2014). To support their hypothesis that solar wind affects the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) and Arctic Oscillation (AO), they’ve stacked the records of times of low solar wind, aligned at the minimum in the wind speed. Well, not exactly the minimums of the wind speed, come to find out it’s the minimums of a most strange triangular filter of the wind speed. But only in the winter, not the summer. Well, not exactly the winter, but the five month period November-May. Then they sub-divided the stacks into times of “low volcanic activity” and “high-volcanic activity”. Then they further subdivided them into times when the interplanetary magnetic field (IMF) points up, and times when the IMF points down … seems like waterboarding the data to me, but I was born yesterday, what do I know? Here’s their money graph:
Figure 1. Fig. 2 from ZTH2014. “Stacked” analysis aligned on the minima of the solar wind speed in the winter months. “SWS_MIN” means minimum solar wind speed.
Figure 1 shows the claim they are making, that on a daily level the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) and the Arctic Oscillation (AO) are affected by minima in the solar wind. Looking at the Hockey Schtick article, I realized I didn’t know much at all about the solar wind. I mean, I knew what most folks know, that the solar wind is the result of constantly varying high-speed ejection of a variety of charged particles from the sun. But I didn’t know how it changed over time, how fast it blew, what a solar wind gust or a gale looked like, nothing. So here’s what I found out.
As usual, I started by getting all the data. It took some digging, but I finally found the hourly data here. Of course, it’s in the form of a whole stack of individual files, one per year from 1963 to 2014 … so I had to write the code to download them all, and then extract the information I wanted. I ended up with 324,204 hourly observations of solar wind. I averaged them out day by day, to match the time intervals of the ZTH2014 study, and I ended up with the data shown in Figure 2.
Figure 2. All daily average solar wind observations in the OMNI-2 dataset. The “winter” data, shown in blue, uses the same definition of “winter” as is used in ZTH2014, viz November through March (5 months).
This is a most interesting graph, 51 years of data from more than a dozen satellites. First off, we can see the usual ~11-year sunspot cycle in the data, with a swing of about 50-100 km/sec.
Next, the solar wind has a clear minimum speed of around 300 kilometres per second. For those interested, this is about a million kilometres per hour … and it rarely blows much slower than that, summer or winter.
Next, they say that they have no less than 887 days that were identified as SWS_MIN, or solar wind speed minimums. As there are 51 years in the dataset, this means that over a typical winter there are 17 identified solar wind speed minima … and they are stacking them up 800 deep or so.
What I think I’ll do next is to see how the solar wind speed varies over the course of the year. Hang on … OK, I just created that graph, and it turns out I didn’t learn a whole lot in the process …
Figure 3. Solar wind speed by day of year. Portion of the year shown in blue is the “winter” (NDJFM) as defined in the study.
There is very little sign of any kind of annual cycle, which makes perfect sense because the sun doesn’t run by earthly clocks … the sun doesn’t know much about “one year for earthlings”.
So … we’ve seen the 51-year record of the solar wind, and the lack of an annual cycle. Let me move on to their physical explanation for the purported solar wind/atmospheric pressure connection. From the paper:
The responses on the day to day time scale have been shown to involve both the relativistic electron flux (REF), precipitating from the radiation belts at subauroral latitudes, and stratospheric volcanic aerosols. A strong correlation between the REF and the SWS has been examined by Li et al (2001a,b). Tinsley et al. (1994, 2012) described a link between space weather and lower atmospheric dynamics through the global electric circuit. Minima in the SWS and deep minima in the REF are associated with the HCS crossings, as shown by Tinsley et al. (1994, Fig. 5).
The REF can penetrate down to upper stratospheric levels, and the Bremsstrahlung radiation that they produce can impact the electric conductivity down to lower stratospheric levels and change the stratospheric electrical column resistance. The consequent changes in the ionosphere-earth current density (Jz) that flows as the downward return current in the global electric circuit was considered to be the physical link to the tropospheric cloud and dynamical changes, especially when there is high stratosphere aerosol loading due to volcanic eruptions, which will increase the proportion of the stratospheric column resistance to that of the whole atmosphere column. Observations of minima in tropospheric potential gradient and Jz at HCS crossings have been reported by Reiter (1977), and Fischer and Muhleisen (1980) also observed such potential gradient minima.
Now, is their explanation possible?
Sure. Lots of things are possible. I have long held that the electromagnetic aspects of weather and climate were the unknown unknowns in the climate game. For example, to many scientists’ surprise, it was discovered within the last decade or so that the cloud nuclei, the seeds that cloud droplets form around, are not mainly dust or sea salt crystals as was once thought … much of the cloud nuclei are microbes of various kinds. Which led to a new question … how did they get up so high in the sky? Turns out that the electrical forces are what make thunderstorms able to loft these tiny creatures that high up into the atmosphere …
So I don’t have a problem with the idea that electromagnetic forces are way understudied in the climate system, and thus may play a larger role in climate than is immediately apparent.
The part I’m missing in their explanation, however, is the connection of the solar wind to the variations in pressure that make up the NAO.
Finally, the most important question … does their study hold water? In regards to this question, let me list my objections to their study. Note that these are not objections to the results, these are objections before we’ve gotten to their results. Here, in no particular order, are the problems that I have with the study.
• No Archiving Of Data As Used: First and foremost, they have not archived the 887 magical dates on which they claim that there are “solar wind minima”. Without that, there’s no way to determine if they’ve made any errors. As a result, to date it’s just advertising, not science.
• High number of “minima”: Next, the “winter” portion of the dataset contains 6,684 days with data. There are 887 days they call “solar wind speed minima” during the winter. That means that a “minimum” occurs every 6,684 days / 887 minima equals 7.5 days per minimum, about once a fricken’ week …
Once a week? Give me a break. I realized this was a problem as soon as I looked at Figure 1 at the head of this post. I thought, 887 wintertime “minima” in half a century? That’s about eighteen minima every winter …
• Divide and Conquer: This study employs a much-abused technique I call “Divide and Conquer”. It works like this: you look for a theorized effect. But you can’t find it in the data. So then you divide the data into two piles, say into winter and summer data. Then you look for the effect again.
But you still can’t find the theorized effect in the data. So then you sub-divide the data again, say into “volcanic” and “non-volcanic” data. Now you have four piles of data. But you still can’t find the effect. So then you divide the data into maxima and minima, that gives you eight piles of data. You ignore the maxima, presumable because they didn’t show the effect.
So then you divide the minimum data into 887 overlapping two-month-long chunks centered on some subset of all of the minima, and you average the chunks together … at which point you find something and declare that your study is a resounding success …
I’m sure you can see the problem with this kind of analysis. If you keep dividing, eventually you will find something. No surprise.
• Bad Statistics, No Cookies: However, if you insist on using the “divide and conquer” plan as they have done, each time you subdivide the data you need to adjust the threshold for statistical significance. In climate science, the usual level for assigning statistical significance is a “p-value” of 0.05. That’s one in twenty. But if you look in more and more places, to be significant, the p-value needs to be lower. How much lower? Glad you asked. Here’s a handy chart … for mathematicians, the p-value is calculated as
p-value = 1 – 10^( log(1-p) / n )
where “n” is the number of trials, “p” is the single-trial p-value (0.05 in this case) and log is logarithm base 10.
Figure 4. Change in the required p-value to be significant at the single-trial 0.05 level with a given number of trials.
In this case, they have the original data, and then the two halves split summer/winter. Then they have four quarters after they’ve sub-spit by volcanic/non-volcanic. Then they’ve divided off the minimum values from the maximum values … already they’ve looked in fifteen different places for the claimed effect. So if they find something, in order for it to be significant it has to have a p-value of less than 0.004 … four in a thousand …
• Length of “Winter”: Picking five months for “winter” gives every appearance of special pleading. I mean, the first thing you’d try for “winter” is December-January-February. Then maybe the six months between the equinoxes, October to March. Either of those might be OK, although you’d need to adjust the significance threshold as required … but using a five-month winter is just fine-tuning the results.
• Proportionality of Effect: One of the ways we determine if there is causal relationship between A and B is that there is some kind of proportionality, whether linear or non-linear, between the cause and the effect. In their case, they are claiming that variations in maximum solar wind speeds don’t affect the North Atlantic Oscillation, but variations in minimum solar wind speeds do affect the NAO … how is that supposed to work? It seems odd, particularly when the solar wind minima vary so much less than the solar wind maxima.
• Width of Stacked Data: To dig out the signal, they’ve “stacked” the data. This means that they have aligned a number of years of results based on the minima in the wind speed. This is shown in Figure 1. It’s a legitimate technique, but note that their stacks are 2 months in width. This means that each individual layer in the stack contains on average eight different minima (60 days divided by 7.5 days per minimum).
• Uneven Duplication of Stacked Data: Like the minimum years, on average, every day in the dataset appears in the full stacked data about 8 times. However, the number of times that a given day appears in the total 887-layer stack is quite variable. Days during periods where a number of minima are in close succession will be over-represented in the stack, and vice versa.
• Missing Data: The early years have a lot of missing data. Coverage of 365 days/year is not achieved until 1995. It’s not clear what effect this has on their calculation of “minima”.
• Calculation of Minima: The previous problems are bad enough. But here’s where they go totally off the rails. In the ZTH2014 paywalled study they say they use the method for calculating minima from a previous paywalled study. The method of determining the location and depth of the minima in that study turns out to be quite baroque, viz:
The minima and their relative depth are selected with reference to a sliding window of 13 days, with the preceding and following ‘shoulder’ values (ps) being the mean for days 1 through 3 and 11 through 13, and the deviation from the shoulders (pm) being the mean for days 6 through 8, so that the percentage deviation is: y = ((pm-ps)/ ps) 100%.
Dear heavens … do you see what they are doing? I get a thrill when I see a bizarre mathematical transformation like that, it’s like coming across some strange new primitive life form. That is an extremely crude method of fitting a sawtooth wave to the data, one that will function as a strange form of triangular filter. Since the centers of the two ends of the filter (points 1-3 and 11-13) are 11 days apart, I thought that it would emphasize any cycles in the data with a period of 11 days, although from the description the frequency response of such an odd creature could only be guessed at. When I read that, I could hardly wait to see how their “minima finder” algorithm munges some real data. Before we get to the real data, however, here’s the bandpass of their triangular “minima” filter. It shows the amplitude of sinusoidal signals after they have been savaged by their method.
Figure 5. Bandpass of their 13-point-wide filter. Values are given as a percentage of the maximum.
That is one strange bandpass filter. As I suspected, the maximum bandpass is at a period of 11 days … and it has a curious problem in the present application. Solar wind data has a clear ~27-28 day cycle. This is the result of the ~27-28 day rotation period of the sun. Unfortunately, the amplitude this 28-day cycle is severely attenuated by their procedure, down to about a third of its original value. So their filter is minimizing a real cycle in the data, while artificially enlarging any random 11-day cycles. Most curiously, it totally wipes out all 3-day and 5-day cycles. I suspect that this has to do with the fact that they are not using some of the 13 points of the filter width—points 4-5 and 9-10 are not involved in the calculation. But that’s a guess.
Having seen all of that, without further ado, it’s time to look at real data. Here’s a typical winter from the OMNI-2 solar wind dataset. The time of the winter is 1998-1999, merely because it happens to be the first one I picked. This one has the full complement of 154 days of data, so it should have 154 days divided by 7.5 days per minimum equals about twenty minima. So I’ve included their bizarre “minima” calculations as well, scaled to the same mean and standard deviation as the solar wind data for easy comparison … hold your nose, here we go …
Figure 6. Daily average solar wind data (blue) and calculated “minima” (red). Minima calculated using the procedure quoted just above. The one gold, two tan, one blue, and two violet shaded areas show sections of particular interest. “Minima” are scaled to the mean and standard deviation of the solar wind speed data.
Like I feared when I first read their description, this procedure does indeed do weird things to data … to start with, in the right hand tan shaded area is what was the lowest minimum speed of the entire winter (blue line), a day when the solar wind dropped below 300 kilometres per second, a relative calm spell … with the wind only blowing a mere million kilometres per hour or so …
But once their procedure gets through with it, the red line shows that what was the record minimum of the period is now about the tenth lowest minimum. And the two minima in the other tan area have suffered the same fate, reduced to insignificance.
The violet shaded areas show the opposite effect. In the right hand violet shaded area, there was no real minimum of any kind (blue line). But under the new regime (red line), it’s the fourth largest minimum in the record. And it’s the same in the left hand violet shaded area. A significant false minimum has been created out of nothingness.
Next, the gold shaded area (center) shows what was a fairly minor player in the original data (blue line). But after their triangular filter works it over (red line), it becomes the deepest, most evident minimum of the winter.
Finally, the most outré part. See the blue shaded area? Their whizbang method actually shifts the dates of the two actual minima during that time (blue line) by two days each …
Like I said, it’s a most baroque method for picking “minima”, one that manufactures minima where none exist in the data, distorts the actual sizes of the minima, turns the deepest minimum into a minor player, and shifts the dates of some of the minima but not others, all the while minimizing the natural ~27-28 day cycle that actually exists in the data.
Conclusions? Other than the fact that looking at this study for four days now makes my head ache? Well, between all of the problems, that’s enough for me to say that the study is definitely not ready for publication. To recap, those problems were:
• No Archiving Of Data As Used
• High Number of “Minima”
• Uses a “Divide and Conquer” Method
• Bad Statistics
• Strange 5-month Length of “Winter”
• No Proportionality of Effect
• About Eight Minima in Each Layer of the Stacked Sections of Data
• Uneven Duplication of Stacked Data
• Missing Data
• Mondo Bizarro Method of Minima Calculations
Best thing about their study? I understand much, much more about the solar wind than I did a week ago.
Finally, people often read more into my statements than I intend. For example, when I say I can’t find an 11-year cycle in the 10Be data used as a proxy for cosmic rays, people interpret it as if I had said there are no cycles at all in climate data. Generally, I mean what I say, and not some generalization of my statement.
So please note that in this case, I am NOT saying that solar wind has no effect on the climate. It may well have such an effect, although the lack of any 11-year signal in temperature datasets argues strongly against it.
What I am saying is that the manifold flaws and problems in the study of Zhou, Tinsley, and Huang 2014 mean that they are a long ways from demonstrating that such a purported effect actually exists
My best wishes to each of you,
w.
The Usual Request: If you disagree with something I’ve said, please quote the exact words you disagree with. That avoids lots of misunderstanding.
Data: The press release at the Hockey Schtick post is here, my thanks for the discussion of the solar wind study. I have collated the OMNI-2 data into a single CSV file containing the daily average solar wind speed data called OMNI-2 Solar Wind.csv
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The solar wind bursts (rate of change rather than speed of the wind is more important in terms of the magnitude of the effect, as well as the density of the wind, and the charge composition in the wind) create a space charge differential in the ionosphere which in turn removes ions from high latitude regions and increases ions in the equatorial regions.
It is important when reviewing/analyzing the effects of the solar magnetic cycle on the planet’s climate to include effect of GCR changes (galactic cosmic rays, mostly high speed protons, also called cosmic flux) which are modulated by the solar heliosphere. The GCR strike the atmosphere and create ions which modulate the amount of planetary clouds. Due to the strength and orientation of the earth’s magnetic field, solar heliosphere modulation of GCR mostly affects high latitude regions.
As this graph illustrates we are at the highest point in solar magnetic cycle 24 and GCR has not dropped off as in past cycles, as solar magnetic cycle 24 is the weakest cycle in 100 years based on the idiotic and purposeless sun spot counting. The drop in the Ap index is due to the fact that solar heliosphere density has dropped by 40%. It appears, we are observing a once in 6000 to 8000 year solar magnetic cycle interruption. More on what to expect when there is public discussion of solar magnetic cycle anomalies and public discussion of unexpected planetary cooling and changes in weather patterns.
During the last 7 or 8 years the solar magnetic cycle’s effect on planetary climate has been inhibited. The inhibiting mechanism is abating. Observations to support that assertion is the sudden increase in sea ice in the Antarctic and the cooling of the Arctic in summer due to increase cloud cover.
It will be interesting to see if the reduction in intensity of solar wind bursts inhibits the predicted El Niño. The electrical charge movement from high latitude to equatorial regions reduces cloud cover in high latitude regions and changes droplet size in the equatorial clouds. The droplet size of the clouds in the equator affects how upwelling long radiation can pass through the cloud in question.
http://cosmicrays.oulu.fi/webform/query.cgi?startday=27&startmonth=03&startyear=1975&starttime=00%3A00&endday=27&endmonth=04&endyear=2014&endtime=00%3A00&resolution=Automatic+choice&picture=on
This review paper discusses some of the effects and mechanisms.
http://www.utdallas.edu/physics/pdf/Atmos_060302.pdf
Atmospheric Ionization and Clouds as Links Between Solar Activity and Climate
Observations of changes in cloud properties that correlate with the 11-year cycles in space particle fluxes are reviewed. The correlations can be understood in terms of one or both of two microphysical processes; ion mediated nucleation (IMN) and electroscavenging. IMN relies on the presence of ions to provide the condensation sites for sulfuric acid and water vapors to produce new aerosol particles, which, under certain conditions, might grow into sizes that can be activated as cloud condensation nuclei (CCN). Electroscavenging depends on the buildup of space charge at the tops and bottoms of clouds as the vertical current density (Jz) in the global electric circuit encounters the increased electrical resistivity of the clouds. Space charge is electrostatic charge density due to a difference between the concentrations of positive and negative ions. Calculations indicate that this electrostatic charge on aerosol particles can enhance the rate at which they are scavenged by cloud droplets. The aerosol particles for which scavenging is important are those that act as insitu ice forming nuclei (IFN) and CCN. Both IMN and electroscavenging depend on the presence of atmospheric ions that are generated, in regions of the atmosphere relevant for effects on clouds, by galactic cosmic rays (GCR). The space charge depends, in addition, on the magnitude of Jz. The magnitude of Jz depends not only on the GCR flux, but also on the fluxes of MeV electrons from the radiation belts, and the ionospheric potentials generated by the solar wind, that can vary independently of the GCR flux. The roles of GCR and Jz in cloud processes are the speculative links in a series connecting solar activity, the solar wind, GCR, clouds and climate. This article reviews the correlated cloud variations and the two mechanisms proposed as possible explanations for these links.
As I noted in my comment above. We are at the peak of solar magnetic cycle 24, yet the proxy variable Ap (Ap is a measurement of much the geomagnetic field changes in a three hour period when there is a solar wind burst. Leif incorrect uses the day average geomagnetic field change which not isolate the rate of change of the solar wind which causes the space charge differential in the ionosphere) which is a proxy measure of how the solar wind changes affect planetary climate has dropped by a factor of 20.
correction
If something is possible it is not necessarily likely.
Sarah Ineson presented this figure, (courtesy of Lesley Gray, University of Oxford), which explains a top-down mechanism for how solar cycle variability in stratospheric ozone and heating can induce planetary wave propagation through two routes to produce a positive (labeled +ve in the figure) NAO response.
http://lasp.colorado.edu/home/sorce/files/2013/10/summary_Ineson.jpeg
I can’t believe you did this much work or this one article, wow.
But what this all comes down to is now a days scientists don’t TEST a hypothesis they set out to PROVE the hypothesis by any means necessary. Statistics isn’t a tool to ANALYZE data it is a tool to MANIPULATE the data. Some how most science PhDs have managed to get their degrees without understanding how science works.
vukcevic says:
May 17, 2014 at 12:23 pm
correction
If something is possible it is not necessarily likely.
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Whew!
ren says:
May 17, 2014 at 12:43 pm
I’ve seen that diagram from Sarah Ineson before but at solar maximum it refers to more UV, more ozone and higher temperatures in the stratosphere.
However, when the sun was more active the stratosphere cooled and with the less active sun that cooling has stopped and there may now be warming.
The sign of the stratospheric response to solar changes needs to be reversed.
tgasloli: But what this all comes down to is now a days scientists don’t TEST a hypothesis they set out to PROVE the hypothesis by any means necessary.
I have called it “rescuing” a hypothesis.
Alan Robertson says @ur momisugly vukcevic:
Whew!
Alan
Be courteous to all and one
Trust a whew
Do wrong to none.
All the best to you
vukcevic says:
May 17, 2014 at 1:47 pm
Alan Robertson says @ur momisugly vukcevic:
Whew!
Alan
Be courteous to all and one
Trust a whew
Do wrong to none.
All the best to you
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I do hope that you did not take offense and that our problem derives from the language barrier.
In English, “Whew!” is used as an expression of great relief and was expressed as a joke response to your corrected line.
“If something is possible it is not necessarily likely.”
Which with uncorrected assertion would be: “A meteor strike to my forehead is possible and ___ necessarily likely”.
Ah heck, if I have to explain it…
Just an observation.
Last Summer, extreme negative temperature anomalies persisted in the Arctic long enough for it to catch my attention. At the same time, in the Southern Hemisphere, during its Winter, there was one of the strongest meridional flow patterns in decades as Antarctic cold was displaced toward the equator. Argentina and S.Brazil saw record cold and snow.
When the seasons flipped, the exact same weather pattern/effects flipped hemisphere’s. Extreme cold anomalies persisted over the Antarctic for months during Summer. At the same time, in the Northern Hemisphere’s Winter, a powerful, persistent pattern with a massive northeast Pacific ridge extending to Siberia at times and downstream trough, focused a meridional, north to south flow aimed at Canada and much of the US(east of the Rockies).
The Great Lakes region saw one of its coldest Winters the last Century.
This could be a coincidence. It could be connected but the powerful connection not understood and on a short enough time scale that it will be gone before we can even make the connection.
We are in the seasonal time frame for the effect to flip, if there is an effect(vs random variation/coincidence). The Antarctic, at least at the moment, suggests the next couple of weeks will continue to feature a flip to extreme warm anomalies.
The Arctic, after it’s extremely warm anomalies this past Winter, may be in transition. My bias is leading me in a direction before there is evidence to properly assess the Arctic Summer, so the best thing to do in this case, is wait for MUCH more data……….especially if the early part of Summer in the Arctic is cool and revs up that bias.
Alan Robertson says:
May 17, 2014 at 2:17 pm
I do hope that you did not take offense
Whew!
Willis, and Peter Yates – If I have understood this correctly, the study selects solar wind data from November to May only. Yes they say they are looking for its effect on Earth and the period “Nov-May” is meaningful on Earth, and only the “Nov-May” solar wind reaches Earth during Nov-May. BUT, if you are looking for a cycle in the solar wind which has an effect on Earth that for some reason shows up in Nov-May, it makes absolutely no sense at all to examine only the Nov-May solar wind, because Nov-May has no meaning on the sun. If there is a solar cycle that shows up in Earth’s Nov-May, it must exist equally at all other times. Therefore the study should use all solar wind data.
Another way of looking at this is that if there is a reason for an effect showing on Earth in Nov-May and not in other months, then that reason has to be an Earth-based reason not a Sun-based reason, because the Sun doesn’t know what “Nov-May” is. Thus selection of Nov-May solar data is nuts.
(I tried to find a more scientific-sounding word than “nuts”, but none of them seemed to fit.)
ren says:
May 17, 2014 at 8:10 am
Small chance of El Niño.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_update/sstweek_c.gif
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/70hPa/orthographic=-84.33,-54.24,553
Weakened polar vortex at an altitude of 17 km cools the Pacific.
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Doesn’t look weak to me ?
Has that huge flux tube running into the So. Pacific at 10hPa (16 mi.) The end of it looks like around only
24 S. of equator.
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/10hPa/overlay=temp/orthographic=-101.37,-51.45,554
vukcevic says:
May 17, 2014 at 10:58 am
Say what? It’s possible that I might win the lottery … but that doesn’t make it likely that I’ll win. What am I missing here?
w.
William Astley says:
May 17, 2014 at 11:50 am
William, on my planet I call what you’ve done “science by assertion”. Without citations or other support, you’re moving your lips, but nothing’s coming out …
w.
vukcevic says:
May 17, 2014 at 12:23 pm
I knew I was missing something … fixed.
w.
@Mike Jonas
_”Willis, and Peter Yates – If I have understood this correctly, the study selects solar wind data from November to May only.”_
Thanks. You explained it all better than I did. .. I was looking at the study from the Sun’s point of view, and thinking that it is a similar situation to there being no annual cycle in the OMNI-2 data. ….
_”There is very little sign of any kind of annual cycle, which makes perfect sense because the sun doesn’t run by earthly clocks … the sun doesn’t know much about ‘one year for earthlings’. (Willis)_
Willis wrote in his reply to my original post that they were looking at the effects of the solar wind on the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO). It seems that the authors concentrated on the winter months in the Northern Hemisphere because the NAO can have a large effect on the winter weather, depending on its positive or negative phases. …. “The NAO is the *dominant mode* of winter climate variability in the North Atlantic region ranging from central North America to Europe and much into Northern Asia.” ….www.ldeo.columbia.edu/res/pi/NAO/
But, I agree it does make more sense to use the solar wind data for the whole year. .. At least to confirm the differences that there are in the solar wind reaching the atmosphere over the North Atlantic during the summer and winter months. …. _”The angle of the sun goes from lowest to highest. Why would this not cause a difference?” (Mike Maguire)_
Thanks also to: @vukcevic @MikeMaguire @AlanRobertson
From ‘The Hockey Schtick’ article: …. _”The authors propose these effects are related to ‘A connection via the global atmospheric electric circuit and cloud microphysical changes’ [similar but not the same as the cloud seeding hypothesis of Svensmark et al].” …. hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2013/09/new-paper-finds-another-amplification.html
By the way, @JohnMWare pointed out that the ‘Nov-May’ period is a typo. It should have been ‘Nov-Mar’ — the 5 month period: November to March.
ren says:
May 17, 2014 at 10:20 am
Not a clue. Truly.
w.
Willis Eschenbach whether blocking the polar vortex has an effect on climate phenomena, especially when repeated over several years? Whether solar activity has an effect on distribution of temperature and ozone, or not?
Carla from my observation is that deepen the temperature difference between the eastern and western Pacific because can be seen along the South American wind from the south, and a large area of low clouds.
http://www.sat24.com/world.aspx?region=am
That is my opinion, but I could be wrong.
Peter Yates – The study was of the speed of the solar wind. You quote ”The angle of the sun goes from lowest to highest. Why would this not cause a difference?” (Mike Maguire). The answer is because the angle of Earth has no effect on the speed of the solar wind. It is conceptually possible that passing through Earth’s atmosphere affects the observed solar wind speed, but even that would have no significance wrt this study. It’s still nuts!
Peter Yates – Yes, Nov-Mar, thx. But of course it doesn’t matter what months are used, selecting any months is nonsensical. Solar cycles can only have a periodicity that is of significance at the sun. Earth years, seasons, months and days have no significance at the sun. Anything with these periodicities must have an Earth-based cause.
Mike Jonas says:
May 18, 2014 at 2:49 am
………..
If solar wind velocity is measured within magnetosphere the annual effect can’t be ignored due to the tilt of the Earth’s axis.
Carla strongest ionization in the vortex is at a height of about 20 km. Blockade is stronger at a height of 70 to 30 hPa. The above also works, and is, contrary to appearances, very strongly.
A question for Willis, but maybe Dr. Svalgaard would have more insight….how does solar wind speed link to dynamic pressure? Anthony’s solar page contains and interesting graphic of solar magnetic field, wind speed, and (what I assume is ) dynamic pressure as measured against the earths atmosphere. I have see points of relatively ‘higher’ speed, but no corresponding increase in pressure; and vice versa. I would think the velocity of the solar wind is only part of the picture.