When Greenland was green in warmer times

From the University of Vermont

Science: There’s something ancient in the icebox

Researchers find 3-million-year-old landscape beneath Greenland Ice Sheet

In this one-minute video, University of Vemont scientists demonstrate how they discovered 3 million-year-old soil under the Greenland Ice Sheet.

Glaciers are commonly thought to work like a belt sander. As they move over the land they scrape off everything—vegetation, soil, and even the top layer of bedrock. So scientists were greatly surprised to discover an ancient tundra landscape preserved under the Greenland Ice Sheet, below two miles of ice.

“We found organic soil that has been frozen to the bottom of the ice sheet for 2.7 million years,” said University of Vermont geologist Paul Bierman—providing strong evidence that the Greenland Ice Sheet has persisted much longer than previously known, enduring through many past periods of global warming.

He led an international team of scientists that reported their discovery on April 17 in the journal Science.

Greenland is a place of great interest to scientists and policymakers since the future stability of its huge ice sheet—the size of Alaska, and second only to Antarctica—will have a fundamental influence on how fast and high global sea levels rise from human-caused climate change.

“The ancient soil under the Greenland ice sheet helps to unravel an important mystery surrounding climate change,” said Dylan Rood a co-author on the new study from the Scottish Universities Environmental Research Centre and the University of California, Santa Barbara, “how did big ice sheets melt and grow in response to changes in temperature?”

The new discovery indicates that even during the warmest periods since the ice sheet formed, the center of Greenland remained stable; “it’s likely that it did not fully melt at any time,” Vermont’s Bierman said. This allowed a tundra landscape to be locked away, unmodified, under ice through millions of years of global warming and cooling.

IMAGE: This is a piece of the GISP2 ice core showing silt and sand embedded in ice. Soon after this picture was taken, the ice was crushed in the University…Click here for more information.

“The traditional knowledge about glaciers is that they are very powerful agents of erosion and can effectively strip a landscape clean,” said study co-author Lee Corbett, a UVM graduate student who prepared the silty ice samples for analysis. Instead, “we demonstrate that the Greenland Ice Sheet is not acting as an agent of erosion; in fact, at it’s center, it has performed incredibly little erosion since its inception almost three million years ago.”

Rather than scraping and sculpting the landscape, the ice sheet has been frozen to the ground, “a refrigerator that’s preserved this antique landscape,” Bierman said.

The scientists tested seventeen “dirty ice” samples from the bottommost forty feet of the 10,019-foot GISP2 ice core extracted from Summit, Greenland, in 1993. “Over twenty years, only a few people had looked hard at the sediments from the bottom of the core,” Bierman said. From this sediment, he and a team at the University of Vermont’s Cosmogenic Nuclide Laboratory extracted a rare form of the element beryllium, an isotope called beryllium-10. Formed by cosmic rays, it falls from the sky and sticks to rock and soil. The longer soil is exposed at Earth’s surface, the more beryllium-10 it accumulates. Measuring how much is in soil or a rock gives geologists a kind of exposure clock.

The researchers expected to only find soil eroded from glacier-scoured bedrock in the sediment at the bottom of the ice core. “So we thought we were going looking for a needle in haystack,” Bierman said. They planned to work diligently to find vanishingly small amounts of the beryllium—since the landscape under the ice sheet would have not been exposed to the sky. “It turned out that we found an elephant in a haystack,” he said; the silt had very high concentrations of the isotope when the team measured it on a particle accelerator at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

“On a global basis, we only find these sorts of beryllium concentrations in soils that have developed over hundreds of thousands to millions of years,” said Joseph Graly, who analyzed the beryllium data while at the University of Vermont.

The new research, supported by funding from the National Science Foundation, shows that “the soil had been stable and exposed at the surface for somewhere between 200,000 and one million years before being covered by ice,” notes Ben Crosby, a member of the research team from Idaho State University.

To help interpret these unexpected findings, the team also measured nitrogen and carbon that could have been left by plant material in the core sample. “The fact that measurable amounts of organic material were found in the silty ice indicates that soil must have been present under the ice,” said co-author Andrea Lini at the University of Vermont—and its composition suggests that the pre-glacial landscape may have been a partially forested tundra.

IMAGE: Scientists were greatly surprised to discover an ancient tundra landscape preserved under the center of the Greenland Ice Sheet, below two miles of ice. “We found organic soil that has…Click here for more information.

“Greenland really was green! However, it was millions of years ago,” said Rood, “Greenland looked like the green Alaskan tundra, before it was covered by the second largest body of ice on Earth.” To confirm their findings about this ancient landscape, the researchers also measured beryllium levels in a modern permafrost tundra soil on the North Slope of Alaska. “The values were very similar,” said Bierman, “which made us more confident that what we found under Greenland was tundra soil.”

Many geologists are seeking a long-term view of the history of the Greenland Ice Sheet, including how it moves and has shaped the landscape beneath it—with an eye toward better understanding its future behavior. It’s 656,000 square miles of ice, containing enough water, if fully melted, to raise global sea levels twenty-three feet—”yet we have very little information about what is happening at the bed with regards to erosion and landscape formation,” said Corbett.

What is clear, however, from an abundance of worldwide indicators, is that global temperatures are on a path to be “far warmer than the warmest interglacials in millions of years,” said Bierman. “There is a 2.7-million-year-old soil sitting under Greenland. The ice sheet on top of it has not disappeared in the time in which humans became a species. But if we keep on our current trajectory, the ice sheet will not survive. And once you clear it off, it’s really hard to put it back on.”

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April 18, 2014 1:45 am

I was hoping, from the headline, that that these fellows might be interested in more recent warming in Greenland. A fringe of scrub apparently comes and goes on the very coast, and when viewed from the sea Greenland actually is green during warm periods, even on the east coast. The Vikings could utilize easterly winds travel a northern route from Norway to Iceland and across the Denmark Strait to Greenland without ever seeing sea-ice, during the Medieval Warm Period.
Sadly, showing how much warmer it was in Greenland during the Medieval Warm Period is frowned upon. Therefore, (rather than seeking to understand the twists and turns of our current climate, and perhaps discovering information that could be useful to the farmers and fishermen of our current age,) our young scientists are redirected to the study of murky, folded ice that is of little value at all to anyone.
It is just one more way to waste time and money.

ren
April 18, 2014 2:32 am

Caleb says:
Sadly, showing how much warmer it was in Greenland during the Medieval Warm Period is frowned upon. Therefore, (rather than seeking to understand the twists and turns of our current climate, and perhaps discovering information that could be useful to the farmers and fishermen of our current age,) our young scientists are redirected to the study of murky, folded ice that is of little value at all to anyone.
This is not so. Important is honesty. Long cycles of the sun is 88 and 208 years. Whether one man is able to memorize the weather before the 88 years?

DirkH
April 18, 2014 2:37 am

The money quote at the end. Scientists prostituting themselves for the globalist cause. Well, they always wanted to become the benevolent technocrat dictators of the entire world anyway.
They’re all giddy for dictatorship.

ren
April 18, 2014 2:38 am

Caleb
Cosmogenic 10Be in polar ice cores is a primary proxy for past solar activity. However, interpretation of the 10Be record is hindered by limited understanding of the physical processes governing its atmospheric transport and deposition to the ice sheets. This issue is addressed by evaluating two accurately dated, annually resolved ice core 10Be records against modern solar activity observations and instrumental and reanalysis climate data. The cores are sampled from the DSS site on Law Dome, East Antarctica (spanning 1936–2009) and the Das2 site, southeast Greenland (1936–2002), permitting inter-hemispheric comparisons. Concentrations at both DSS and Das2 are significantly correlated to the 11-yr solar cycle modulation of cosmic ray intensity, rxy=0.54 with 95% CI [0.31; 0.70], and rxy=0.45 with 95% CI [0.22; 0.62], respectively. For both sites, if fluxes are used instead of concentrations then correlations with solar activity decrease. The strength and spectral coherence of the solar activity signal in 10Be is enhanced when ice core records are combined from both Antarctica and Greenland. The amplitudes of the 11-yr solar cycles in the 10Be data appear inconsistent with the view that the ice sheets receive only 10Be produced at polar latitudes. Significant climate signals detected in the 10Be series include the zonal wave three pattern of atmospheric circulation at DSS, rxy=−0.36 with 95% CI [−0.57; −0.10], and the North Atlantic Oscillation at Das2, rxy=−0.42 with 95% CI [−0.64; −0.15]. The sensitivity of 10Be concentrations to modes of atmospheric circulation advises caution in the use of 10Be records from single sites in solar forcing reconstructions.
http://yadda.icm.edu.pl/yadda/element/bwmeta1.element.elsevier-95389f12-ed30-3233-bdbe-d27275e1bc8f

richard
April 18, 2014 4:03 am

But if we keep on our current trajectory, the ice sheet will not survive. And once you clear it off, it’s really hard to put it back on.”
http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/953/155/original.jpg

Jaakko Kateenkorva
April 18, 2014 4:14 am

If the past had been consistently colder than today, how come a naturally weaponless, slow, furless creature was able to avoid extinction? Let alone end up as earth’s top predator? After all, a furry version of the same is not unheard of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrichosis

Bill Illis
April 18, 2014 4:59 am

The ice at the bottom is only 105,000 years old at GISP site (although some of the folds may have been 240,000 years old). At the NEEM site in the north, they recovered 128,000 year old ice.
It melts at the bottom due to heating from the bedrock. The ice at the bottom has a temperature of -2.7C to -3.0C which is enough to slowly melt it given the pressure.
And the soil underneath is 2.7 million years old.
In the southern part of Greenland, at the bottom of the core, they recovered vegetation remnants including wood from Conifers which is thought to be from the interglacial of 400,000 and 800,000 years ago. These interglacials were longer than normal at 25,000 years which was enough to melt out the ice and have trees grow there even though these were not warm interglacials, just long ones. So the ice in southern Greenland continues melting in an interglacial, it just takes a long time for all that ice to melt. It is too far south to have glaciers in interglacial conditions.
So, 2.7 million years ago, continental drift took northern Greenland and central Greenland, just that far enough North, so that glaciers could build up. It has been moving north-west for 55 million years. Glaciers start up, the planet’s Albedo increases to 29.5%, from 28.5%, and now the northern hemisphere becomes succeptible to the downturns of the Milankovitch Cycles and the ice ages begin.

ren
April 18, 2014 5:38 am
JimS
April 18, 2014 6:47 am

When the Isthmus of Panama formed, cutting off the Atlantic and Pacific oceans in the tropical zone, that seemed to have been the start of the Greenland ice sheet’s growth. The isthmus formed about 3 million years ago.

April 18, 2014 7:07 am

I don’t understand how they get away with it. When I was doing an M.S. in Earth science my professor explained in one of his lectures that Greenland is concave because of the weight of the glaciers and therefore the glaciers do not move in the same way as other glaciers, scraping off the rocks and ancient soil. As I remember the lectures, the Greenland ice sheet was formed in the Pliocene some time between 5 million years and 1.6 million years ago.
So what’s the big discovery?
As for the suggestion that plate movement was significant over 2.7 myr, say northerly plate movement was 30 mm per year, fairly fast, that’s 81 million mm. or 81 kilometers, about 50 miles. No big deal.

rah
April 18, 2014 7:13 am

Mark 543 says:
April 17, 2014 at 6:33 pm
“Even at high end warming estimates it would take hundreds of years to melt the Greenland ice sheet. The problem for future generations is that they will never have stable coastlines.”
When did “we”, meaning us homo sapiens or even hominids, EVER have stable coastlines everywhere? Never, as far as I can see.

beng
April 18, 2014 8:19 am

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Katherine says:
April 17, 2014 at 6:31 pm
And did Bierman study these “worldwide indicators” before making such a claim? Even if the Greenland ice sheet does disappear, it won’t go in a flash like some magic trick or a tsunami. It would take decades at the least.
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Many thousands of yrs under the worst IPCC scenarios, hundreds of thousands realistically. Prb’ly enough time to step back from the beach alittle.

DeWalt
April 18, 2014 8:27 am

So we need to prevent the ice from melting on Greenland to prevent us from being over run by Vikings. Capitol One would hate us for that.

Roger D PGeol
April 18, 2014 9:09 am

They worked diligently to PROVE vanishing ice sheets…but didn’t find them so we make stuff up to keep the hysteria going….sounds a bit like Mothra, doesn’t it?
If I had written this, I would be deeply embarrassed, not worried.

emsnews
April 18, 2014 10:01 am

And in Nepal, the vanishing glaciers there had a huge avalanche which killed the Sherpas there.

tty
April 18, 2014 10:18 am

So what is new here? We already know that it is about 2.5 million years since most of Greenland was ice-free from studies of the Kap Köbenhavn formation on northern Greenland (Note: all of Greenland has probably not been ice-free for tens of million years, there is a major mountain chain under the ice in Eastern Greenland which was ice-covered even when there were palms and parrots in central Europe).
There is some evidence that southern Greenland may have been largely ice-free at some point in the Early Pleistocene 0,5 – 1 million years ago, but most of the Greenland icecap has stayed intact through Interglacials that lasted more than twice as long as the present one (MIS 11) and when local temperatures were 5-10 degrees warmer than now (MIS 5e).

tty
April 18, 2014 10:26 am

Bill Illis:
That there was conifers (spruce) in Greenland in earlier interglacials but not this one is no big deal. All plant-life in Greenland (except possibly in the far north) is wiped out during each ice-age and has to recolonize during each interglacial. Spruce has not managed to reach Greenland this time (possibly because it has for some reason not reached the westernmost parts of Europe), but it has now been introduced and grows pretty well in southern Greenland.
But barley still won’t grow there like it did in the MWP.

23skiddo
April 18, 2014 11:04 am

john says:
April 17, 2014 at 7:12 pm
“The ice sheet will not survive.” I’m very sorry to hear such unscientific garbage from people who just did such a good research project.
Why garbage? About a year ago, Dahl-Jensen of the Niels Bohr Institute did a similar ice core study of Greenland. They found that during the Eemian, the warmer interglacial that preceded our own interglacial period (the Holocene), Greenland was about 8 degrees warmer than today for at least 6,000 years. During that time period, it lost 1/4 of its ice, or about 6 feet (note the U Vermont researchers say that if all of Greenland’s ice melted, it would be 23 feet, so 1/4 of that is almost 6 feet). That translates to a little over an inch per century over 60 centuries.

Are you in fact talking about sea level change? There’s a great deal more than 23 vertical feet of ice on Greenland. The maximum thickness is about 4,000 meters IIRC.

Duster
April 18, 2014 11:05 am

Darn it. Did it again.

Chris Edwards
April 18, 2014 12:06 pm

Digging up a quote from Mrs Thatcher is cherry picking for she, with help from Lord Monkton, saw through the scam because she was a scientist!

sinewave
April 18, 2014 1:08 pm

“But if we keep on our current trajectory, the ice sheet will not survive. And once you clear it off, it’s really hard to put it back on.” They always have to make a comment like that. And they wonder why skeptics are so skeptical…..

Jimbo
April 18, 2014 1:45 pm

If Eric The Red were alive today he would recommend against trying to settle in Greenland.
Greenland is not going into thermageddon meltdown like in the 1930s and 1940s. People panicked then just as now.

Abstract – 2013
…….Here we present the new North Greenland Eemian Ice Drilling (‘NEEM’) ice core and show only a modest ice-sheet response to the strong warming in the early Eemian. We reconstructed the Eemian record from folded ice using globally homogeneous parameters known from dated Greenland and Antarctic ice-core records. On the basis of water stable isotopes, NEEM surface temperatures after the onset of the Eemian (126,000 years ago) peaked at 8 ± 4 degrees Celsius above the mean of the past millennium, followed by a gradual cooling that was probably driven by the decreasing summer insolation. Between 128,000 and 122,000 years ago, the thickness of the northwest Greenland ice sheet decreased by 400 ± 250 metres, reaching surface elevations 122,000 years ago of 130 ± 300 metres lower than the present……..
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v493/n7433/full/nature11789.html

Now why do they ignore the other pole I wonder?

Abstract – June 2013
Recent snowfall anomalies in Dronning Maud Land, East Antarctica, in a historical and future climate perspective
[1] Enhanced snowfall on the East Antarctic ice sheet is projected to significantly mitigate 21st century global sea level rise. In recent years (2009 and 2011), regionally extreme snowfall anomalies in Dronning Maud Land, in the Atlantic sector of East Antarctica, have been observed. It has been unclear, however, whether these anomalies can be ascribed to natural decadal variability, or whether they could signal the beginning of a long-term increase of snowfall…….
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/grl.50559/abstract

Jimbo
April 18, 2014 2:02 pm

About a decade ago we saw a number of papers and letters pointing to a decline in Antarctic sea ice extent. It shows you what you can find if you look really hard.

Letter To Nature – 1997
Abrupt mid-twentieth-century decline in Antarctic sea-ice extent from whaling records
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v389/n6646/full/389057a0.html
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Abstract – 2003
Ice Core Evidence for Antarctic Sea Ice Decline Since the 1950s
…..there has been a 20% decline in SIE since about 1950. …..
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/302/5648/1203.short

Did it?

Abstract – 2003
Decadal decrease of Antarctic sea ice extent inferred from whaling records revisited on the basis of historical and modern sea ice records
….. This comparison shows that only regional perturbations took place earlier, without significant deviations in the mean ice extents, from the pre-1950s to the post-1970s. This conclusion contradicts that previously stated from the analysis of whale catch data that indicated Antarctic sea ice extent changes were circumpolar rather than regional in nature between the two periods.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1751-8369.2003.tb00091.x/abstract

Resourceguy
April 18, 2014 2:10 pm

The authors were “greatly surprised” with the result. What kind of glacial movement and alternate results were they expecting in the case of a continent-sized bathtub morphology?

April 18, 2014 3:43 pm

If the Greenland ice sheet were to melt, I wonder how much of Greenland would remain above sea level. It would depend upon whether the ice melted faster than the isostatic rebound. The findings of this study would seem to indicate that it takes a very long time for the ice to melt, much longer than any interglacial during the current ice age.