GEOMAR researchers show limitations and side effects of large-scale climate intervention
With global greenhouse gas emissions continuing to increase proposals to limit the effects of climate change through the large-scale manipulation of the Earth system are increasingly being discussed. Researchers at the GEOMAR Helmholtz Centre for Ocean Research Kiel have now studied with computer simulations the long-term global consequences of several “climate engineering” methods.
They show that all the proposed methods would either be unable to significantly reduce global warming if CO2 emissions remain high, or they could not be stopped without causing dangerous climate disruption. The study is published in the international journal “Nature Communications”.
Despite international agreements on climate protection and political declarations of intent, global greenhouse gas emissions have not decreased. On the contrary, they continue to increase. With a growing world population and significant industrialization in emerging markets such as India and China the emission trend reversal necessary to limit global warming seems to be unlikely. Therefore, large-scale methods to artificially slow down global warming are increasingly being discussed. They include proposals to fertilize the oceans, so that stimulated plankton can remove carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere, or to reduce the Sun’s incoming radiation with atmospheric aerosols or mirrors in space, so as to reduce climate warming.
All of these approaches can be classified as ”climate engineering”. ”However, the long-term consequences and side effects of these methods have not been adequately studied,” says Dr. David Keller from the GEOMAR Helmholtz Centre for Ocean Research Kiel. Together with colleagues the expert in earth system modelling has compared several Climate Engineering methods using a computer model. The results of the study have now been published in the internationally renowned online journal “Nature Communications”.
”The problem with previous research was that in most cases the methods were studied with different models using different assumptions and different sets of earth system components, making it difficult to compare the effects and side effects of different methods,” Dr. Keller says. He adds: “We wanted to simulate different climate engineering methods using the same basic assumptions and Earth system model”. For their study, the researchers chose five well-known climate engineering approaches: The reduction of incoming solar radiation, the afforestation of large desert areas in North Africa and Australia, and three different techniques aimed at increasing ocean carbon uptake. In parallel, the scientists also simulated future changes in the Earth system without climate engineering, based on the high-CO2 emission scenario used by the UN IPCC.
Even under ideal conditions assumed in the simulations, the potential benefits of the various climate engineering methods were limited. Only a continuous reduction of solar radiation could prevent the Earth from warming significantly. The afforestation of the Sahara and the Australian outback, however even caused some additional global warming: “The forests removed carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, but at the same time the earth’s surface became darker and could store more heat,” Dr. Keller explains of this phenomenon. All of the other techniques showed significant side effects, too. For example, the fertilization of the oceans allowed plankton to remove CO2 from the atmosphere, but also changed the size of ocean oxygen minimum zones.
Another important question for the researchers: What happens if climate engineering is stopped after a few decades for technical or political reasons? ”For several methods we saw a rapid change in the simulated climate when climate engineering ended,” says Dr. Keller. For example, if after 50 years the sun’s rays were no longer partially blocked, the Earth warmed by several degrees within a few decades. “This change would be much faster than the current rate of climate change, with potentially even more catastrophic consequences,” says Keller.
The study is the basis for further research in the priority program “Climate Engineering: Risks, Challenges, Opportunities?” of the German Research Foundation (DFG), coordinated by co-author Prof. Dr. Andreas Oschlies from GEOMAR. “In addition to natural science studies, we also want to learn more about the potential social, political, legal and ethical aspects of proposed climate engineering methods. For one thing, this study clearly shows that there would always be many losers in addition to possible winners. Some side effects would even affect future generations. A decision for or against climate engineering thus would have to be considered carefully and be fully legitimized, and must thus be based on a much better understanding of possible effects, uncertainties and risks than we have today,” says Professor Oschlies.
Reference:
Keller, D. P., E. Y. Feng, A. Oschlies (2014): Potential climate engineering effectiveness and side effects during a high CO2-emissions scenario. Nat. Commun. 5: 3304, http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/ncomms4304
” They include proposals to fertilize the oceans, so that stimulated plankton can remove carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere”
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That’s been done. The project was considered a CO2 sequestration failure because the increased plankton growth stimulated a feeding frenzy of sorts and everything was quickly gobbled up. While the effort drew lots of laughter and even international bans against similar attempts in future, the upshot was that the local food chain fattened up, which might not have been such a bad thing.
Given that we are essentially clueless as to what really drives climate variability I find this climate engineering proposal frightening. In engineering you usually know how the components or materials behave, not so in climate.
“Study: ‘Climate Engineering’: minor potential to reduce warming, major side effects”
File this under Dispatches from the desk of Captain Obvious.
DJC meet Not CO2.
Not CO2 meet DJC.
Moderator,
I am quite certain (he always uses the planet Uranus) that D J C (and also, Not CO2) is “Visiting Physicist”, a.k.a. D. Cotton — recently BANNED.
Ugh. That guy is a NIGHTMARE.
At least he isn’t pushing his book…. yet.
Just thought you might want to know.
Janice
Moderator,
I am almost certain that DJC and CO2 are both D. C–ott0n, recently banned. He always uses the planet Uranus. At least, he hasn’t pushed his book, …. yet.
That guy is a nightmare.
Ugh.
Just FYI.
Janice
REPLY: I’ll look into it, yeah he’s a real piece of work – Anthony
Better come up with better stuff than that, D J C (a.k.a. Not CO2 (a.k.a. V1s1t1ing Phys1c1st, a.k.a. D. C0T-T0N. I could spot you from 55 million miles away.
[Good eye… ~mod.]
You are pathetic.
Two weeks, now, till that book comes out, huh? Yeah, I know, you are giving it away… .
The First Law of Everything: If you interfere with Mother Nature she will always come back and bite you on the bum.
Thank you, Anthony. Have a good night, O Wonderful Host!
This sounds to me like just another way to spend all our money – what’s left of it. They are determined to bankrupt the entire world.
The wonderful merry-go-round of idiots spending tax payers money on non-existent solutions looking for non-existent problems! What did they do before computer models?
This is insane, and that’s the right word. How about unforeseen consequences, even if you believe in the catastrophic theory? As an engineet, i know that there will be major surprises. Any proposed action that is not reversible should absolutely be ruled out, and those that are reversible should require absolute certainty that there is a major problem. And that will never be the case. How can any scientist or engineer belive this nonsense?!
Hi, A. D.,
I think you are right.
btw: How is the book coming? I hope (andipraytoo) well. You have such a generous, kind, and insightful heart — it MUST make those pages of yours glow with appealing warmth and wisdom. I sure hope some publisher takes the time to give you a fair reading (for, that must almost certainly result in publication). Glad you take the time to write — here!
Hang in there,
Janice
And Andrew M. Harding! At last. I’ve wanted to tell you “thanks” for letting me know about Rogers the bookseller (no longer in Newcastle Upon Tyne, apparently) but was always too far down the thread… . Thank you! And, so glad to know that you made it home safely and with no jet lag. Hope the rest of the family are well, too. I hope the floods aren’t threatening you, now.
Take care, over there,
Janice
Belief in CAGW is insanity,,,,belief in Geo-Engineering (to stop it) is total insanity.
Just as introducing cane toads to Australia to save sugar-cane was a stupid idea, attempting to change the climate with sundry pollutions will risk even greater disasters than cane toads.
“OK, so that’s one modeled model special. Would you like fries with that?”
From the upcoming e-book “How to Break the Speed Barrier on Glacial Inception”
Australia seeds clouds with negatively charged ions (electrons) http://www.australianrain.com.au/technology/howitworks.html I wonder if it was running when Toowoomba and Brisbane got flooded? This technology has the potential to increase rainfall up to 30%.
@ur momisugly William McClenney — wahlllll, bust mah britches! lol
(toldja ahv known a few o’ them tarheels)
#(:))
One person’s “modeled model special” is another person’s cow pie.
Where’s Dr Strangelove when you need him?
Thanks for your warm wishes Janice, everyone here fine, no floods in NE England so unlike poor souls in SW we are OK. Hope California gets some rain, it was tinder dry when we were there, lovely part of the world though with lovely people. All the best to you and yours. Andy
This can be a trick. If you accept that climate engineering is rich in unintended consequences and endangers the climate even more, then you might also think of pumping extra CO2 into the atmosphere as a form of climate engineering, and then have to necessarily agree that that’s not a good thing.
That’s really scary stuff. They know what they are suggesting and they
know not what is currently happening. That’s a perfect mix for disaster.
Frankly, I would much rather take my chances with the present … `global
warming’ … [grin]. Besides, I much prefer it warm than cold. And NOT
interfering would mean no man-made disasters.
Antarctica is cold and watching the weather systems traversing the Roaring
Forties where the cold cold air meets the warm warm summer air is also scary.
There has been and is some extreme weather down there at the moment, storms
with pressures below 960 hPa (and maybe below 950!) and very tightly packed
isobars (high winds).
The NZ navy cocktail shaker (HMNZS Wellington) encountered 16m waves
down there last week.
(PS: anyone who can cruise on the Wellington and NOT suffer from sea
sickness, the navy would like to meet!)
@ur momisugly Andy, good!
Sure wish we in NW Wash. St. could send some of our rain south (grrr).
And, thank you.
Janice
@ur momisugly Sophocles — lol. Fear not.
In essence, all they have is a bunch of tinker toys, the plans for a 1560’s windmill, …. and they are talking about building a Saturn V rocket.
NO — CAN — DO.
#(:))
[The geoengineering measures] “could not be stopped without causing dangerous climate disruption”? I’m sorry, but before my very deep misgivings about geoengineering begin to abate, I’m going to need to see some very strong evidence that they can be started without dangerous climate disruption.