A view of science worth reflecting upon

After watching the movie “The Challenger Disaster” on the Discovery channel tonight, I thought it would be good for WUWT readers to read Feynman’s famous address. At the end, there is a quote from Feynman, which appeared at the end of his Challenger appendix report. – Anthony

Cargo Cult Science

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Richard Feynman
From a Caltech commencement address given in 1974. Also in Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman!

During the Middle Ages there were all kinds of crazy ideas, such as that a piece of of rhinoceros horn would increase potency. Then a method was discovered for separating the ideas–which was to try one to see if it worked, and if it didn’t work, to eliminate it. This method became organized, of course, into science. And it developed very well, so that we are now in the scientific age. It is such a scientific age, in fact, that we have difficulty in understanding how witch doctors could ever have existed, when nothing that they proposed ever really worked–or very little of it did.

But even today I meet lots of people who sooner or later get me into a conversation about UFO’s, or astrology, or some form of mysticism, expanded consciousness, new types of awareness, ESP, and so forth. And I’ve concluded that it’s not a scientific world.

Most people believe so many wonderful things that I decided to investigate why they did. And what has been referred to as my curiosity for investigation has landed me in a difficulty where I found so much junk that I’m overwhelmed. First I started out by investigating various ideas of mysticism and mystic experiences. I went into isolation tanks and got many hours of hallucinations, so I know something about that. Then I went to Esalen, which is a hotbed of this kind of thought (it’s a wonderful place; you should go visit there). Then I became overwhelmed. I didn’t realize how MUCH there was.

At Esalen there are some large baths fed by hot springs situated on a ledge about thirty feet above the ocean. One of my most pleasurable experiences has been to sit in one of those baths and watch the waves crashing onto the rocky slope below, to gaze into the clear blue sky above, and to study a beautiful nude as she quietly appears and settles into the bath with me.

One time I sat down in a bath where there was a beatiful girl sitting with a guy who didn’t seem to know her. Right away I began thinking, “Gee! How am I gonna get started talking to this beautiful nude woman?”

I’m trying to figure out what to say, when the guy says to her, “I’m, uh, studying massage. Could I practice on you?” “Sure,” she says. They get out of the bath and she lies down on a massage table nearby. I think to myself, “What a nifty line! I can never think of anything like that!” He starts to rub her big toe. “I think I feel it,” he says. “I feel a kind of dent–is that the pituitary?” I blurt out, “You’re a helluva long way from the pituitary, man!” They looked at me, horrified–I had blown my cover–and said, “It’s reflexology!” I quickly closed my eyes and appeared to be meditating.

That’s just an example of the kind of things that overwhelm me. I also looked into extrasensory perception, and PSI phenomena, and the latest craze there was Uri Geller, a man who is supposed to be able to bend keys by rubbing them with his finger. So I went to his hotel room, on his invitation, to see a demonstration of both mindreading and bending keys. He didn’t do any mindreading that succeeded; nobody can read my mind, I guess. And my boy held a key and Geller rubbed it, and nothing happened. Then he told us it works better under water, and so you can picture all of us standing in the bathroom with the water turned on and the key under it, and him rubbing the key with his finger. Nothing happened. So I was unable to investigate that phenomenon.

But then I began to think, what else is there that we believe? (And I thought then about the witch doctors, and how easy it would have been to check on them by noticing that nothing really worked.) So I found things that even more people believe, such as that we have some knowledge of how to educate. There are big schools of reading methods and mathematics methods, and so forth, but if you notice, you’ll see the reading scores keep going down–or hardly going up–in spite of the fact that we continually use these same people to improve the methods. There’s a witch doctor remedy that doesn’t work. It ought to be looked into; how do they know that their method should work? Another example is how to treat criminals. We obviously have made no progress–lots of theory, but no progress–in decreasing the amount of crime by the method that we use to handle criminals.

Yet these things are said to be scientific. We study them. And I think ordinary people with commonsense ideas are intimidated by this pseudoscience. A teacher who has some good idea of how to teach her children to read is forced by the school system to do it some other way–or is even fooled by the school system into thinking that her method is not necessarily a good one. Or a parent of bad boys, after disciplining them in one way or another, feels guilty for the rest of her life because she didn’t do “the right thing,” according to the experts.

So we really ought to look into theories that don’t work, and science that isn’t science.

I think the educational and psychological studies I mentioned are examples of what I would like to call cargo cult science. In the South Seas there is a cargo cult of people. During the war they saw airplanes with lots of good materials, and they want the same thing to happen now. So they’ve arranged to make things like runways, to put fires along the sides of the runways, to make a wooden hut for a man to sit in, with two wooden pieces on his head to headphones and bars of bamboo sticking out like antennas–he’s the controller–and they wait for the airplanes to land. They’re doing everything right. The form is perfect. It looks exactly the way it looked before. But it doesn’t work. No airplanes land. So I call these things cargo cult science, because they follow all the apparent precepts and forms of scientific investigation, but they’re missing something essential, because the planes don’t land.

Now it behooves me, of course, to tell you what they’re missing. But it would be just about as difficult to explain to the South Sea islanders how they have to arrange things so that they get some wealth in their system. It is not something simple like telling them how to improve the shapes of the earphones. But there is one feature I notice that is generally missing in cargo cult science. That is the idea that we all hope you have learned in studying science in school–we never say explicitly what this is, but just hope that you catch on by all the examples of scientific investigation. It is interesting, therefore, to bring it out now and speak of it explicitly. It’s a kind of scientific integrity, a principle of scientific thought that corresponds to a kind of utter honesty–a kind of leaning over backwards. For example, if you’re doing an experiment, you should report everything that you think might make it invalid–not only what you think is right about it: other causes that could possibly explain your results; and things you thought of that you’ve eliminated by some other experiment, and how they worked–to make sure the other fellow can tell they have been eliminated.

Details that could throw doubt on your interpretation must be given, if you know them. You must do the best you can–if you know anything at all wrong, or possibly wrong–to explain it. If you make a theory, for example, and advertise it, or put it out, then you must also put down all the facts that disagree with it, as well as those that agree with it. There is also a more subtle problem. When you have put a lot of ideas together to make an elaborate theory, you want to make sure, when explaining what it fits, that those things it fits are not just the things that gave you the idea for the theory; but that the finished theory makes something else come out right, in addition.

In summary, the idea is to give all of the information to help others to judge the value of your contribution; not just the information that leads to judgement in one particular direction or another.

The easiest way to explain this idea is to contrast it, for example, with advertising. Last night I heard that Wesson oil doesn’t soak through food. Well, that’s true. It’s not dishonest; but the thing I’m talking about is not just a matter of not being dishonest; it’s a matter of scientific integrity, which is another level. The fact that should be added to that advertising statement is that no oils soak through food, if operated at a certain temperature. If operated at another temperature, they all will–including Wesson oil. So it’s the implication which has been conveyed, not the fact, which is true, and the difference is what we have to deal with.

We’ve learned from experience that the truth will come out. Other experimenters will repeat your experiment and find out whether you were wrong or right. Nature’s phenomena will agree or they’ll disagree with your theory. And, although you may gain some temporary fame and excitement, you will not gain a good reputation as a scientist if you haven’t tried to be very careful in this kind of work. And it’s this type of integrity, this kind of care not to fool yourself, that is missing to a large extent in much of the research in cargo cult science.

A great deal of their difficulty is, of course, the difficulty of the subject and the inapplicability of the scientific method to the subject. Nevertheless, it should be remarked that this is not the only difficulty. That’s why the planes don’t land–but they don’t land.

We have learned a lot from experience about how to handle some of the ways we fool ourselves. One example: Millikan measured the charge on an electron by an experiment with falling oil drops, and got an answer which we now know not to be quite right. It’s a little bit off because he had the incorrect value for the viscosity of air. It’s interesting to look at the history of measurements of the charge of an electron, after Millikan. If you plot them as a function of time, you find that one is a little bit bigger than Millikan’s, and the next one’s a little bit bigger than that, and the next one’s a little bit bigger than that, until finally they settle down to a number which is higher.

Why didn’t they discover the new number was higher right away? It’s a thing that scientists are ashamed of–this history–because it’s apparent that people did things like this: When they got a number that was too high above Millikan’s, they thought something must be wrong–and they would look for and find a reason why something might be wrong. When they got a number close to Millikan’s value they didn’t look so hard. And so they eliminated the numbers that were too far off, and did other things like that. We’ve learned those tricks nowadays, and now we don’t have that kind of a disease.

But this long history of learning how to not fool ourselves–of having utter scientific integrity–is, I’m sorry to say, something that we haven’t specifically included in any particular course that I know of. We just hope you’ve caught on by osmosis

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself–and you are the easiest person to fool. So you have to be very careful about that. After you’ve not fooled yourself, it’s easy not to fool other scientists. You just have to be honest in a conventional way after that.

I would like to add something that’s not essential to the science, but something I kind of believe, which is that you should not fool the layman when you’re talking as a scientist. I am not trying to tell you what to do about cheating on your wife, or fooling your girlfriend, or something like that, when you’re not trying to be a scientist, but just trying to be an ordinary human being. We’ll leave those problems up to you and your rabbi. I’m talking about a specific, extra type of integrity that is not lying, but bending over backwards to show how you’re maybe wrong, that you ought to have when acting as a scientist. And this is our responsibility as scientists, certainly to other scientists, and I think to laymen.

For example, I was a little surprised when I was talking to a friend who was going to go on the radio. He does work on cosmology and astronomy, and he wondered how he would explain what the applications of his work were. “Well,” I said, “there aren’t any.” He said, “Yes, but then we won’t get support for more research of this kind.” I think that’s kind of dishonest. If you’re representing yourself as a scientist, then you should explain to the layman what you’re doing– and if they don’t support you under those circumstances, then that’s their decision.

One example of the principle is this: If you’ve made up your mind to test a theory, or you want to explain some idea, you should always decide to publish it whichever way it comes out. If we only publish results of a certain kind, we can make the argument look good. We must publish BOTH kinds of results.

I say that’s also important in giving certain types of government advice. Supposing a senator asked you for advice about whether drilling a hole should be done in his state; and you decide it would be better in some other state. If you don’t publish such a result, it seems to me you’re not giving scientific advice. You’re being used. If your answer happens to come out in the direction the government or the politicians like, they can use it as an argument in their favor; if it comes out the other way, they don’t publish at all. That’s not giving scientific advice.

Other kinds of errors are more characteristic of poor science. When I was at Cornell, I often talked to the people in the psychology department. One of the students told me she wanted to do an experiment that went something like this–it had been found by others that under certain circumstances, X, rats did something, A. She was curious as to whether, if she changed the circumstances to Y, they would still do A. So her proposal was to do the experiment under circumstances Y and see if they still did A.

I explained to her that it was necessary first to repeat in her laboratory the experiment of the other person–to do it under condition X to see if she could also get result A, and then change to Y and see if A changed. Then she would know the the real difference was the thing she thought she had under control.

She was very delighted with this new idea, and went to her professor. And his reply was, no, you cannot do that, because the experiment has already been done and you would be wasting time. This was in about 1947 or so, and it seems to have been the general policy then to not try to repeat psychological experiments, but only to change the conditions and see what happened.

Nowadays, there’s a certain danger of the same thing happening, even in the famous field of physics. I was shocked to hear of an experiment being done at the big accelerator at the National Accelerator Laboratory, where a person used deuterium. In order to compare his heavy hydrogen results to what might happen with light hydrogen, he had to use data from someone else’s experiment on light hydrogen, which was done on different apparatus. When asked why, he said it was because he couldn’t get time on the program (because there’s so little time and it’s such expensive apparatus) to do the experiment with light hydrogen on this apparatus because there wouldn’t be any new result. And so the men in charge of programs at NAL are so anxious for new results, in order to get more money to keep the thing going for public relations purposes, they are destroying–possibly–the value of the experiments themselves, which is the whole purpose of the thing. It is often hard for the experimenters there to complete their work as their scientific integrity demands.

All experiments in psychology are not of this type, however. For example, there have been many experiments running rats through all kinds of mazes, and so on–with little clear result. But in 1937 a man named Young did a very interesting one. He had a long corridor with doors all along one side where the rats came in, and doors along the other side where the food was. He wanted to see if he could train the rats to go in at the third door down from wherever he started them off. No. The rats went immediately to the door where the food had been the time before.

The question was, how did the rats know, because the corridor was so beautifully built and so uniform, that this was the same door as before? Obviously there was something about the door that was different from the other doors. So he painted the doors very carefully, arranging the textures on the faces of the doors exactly the same. Still the rats could tell. Then he thought maybe the rats were smelling the food, so he used chemicals to change the smell after each run. Still the rats could tell. Then he realized the rats might be able to tell by seeing the lights and the arrangement in the laboratory like any commonsense person. So he covered the corridor, and still the rats could tell.

He finally found that they could tell by the way the floor sounded when they ran over it. And he could only fix that by putting his corridor in sand. So he covered one after another of all possible clues and finally was able to fool the rats so that they had to learn to go in the third door. If he relaxed any of his conditions, the rats could tell.

Now, from a scientific standpoint, that is an A-number-one experiment. That is the experiment that makes rat-running experiments sensible, because it uncovers that clues that the rat is really using– not what you think it’s using. And that is the experiment that tells exactly what conditions you have to use in order to be careful and control everything in an experiment with rat-running.

I looked up the subsequent history of this research. The next experiment, and the one after that, never referred to Mr. Young. They never used any of his criteria of putting the corridor on sand, or being very careful. They just went right on running the rats in the same old way, and paid no attention to the great discoveries of Mr. Young, and his papers are not referred to, because he didn’t discover anything about the rats. In fact, he discovered all the things you have to do to discover something about rats. But not paying attention to experiments like that is a characteristic example of cargo cult science.

Another example is the ESP experiments of Mr. Rhine, and other people. As various people have made criticisms–and they themselves have made criticisms of their own experiements–they improve the techniques so that the effects are smaller, and smaller, and smaller until they gradually disappear. All the para-psychologists are looking for some experiment that can be repeated–that you can do again and get the same effect–statistically, even. They run a million rats–no, it’s people this time–they do a lot of things are get a certain statistical effect. Next time they try it they don’t get it any more. And now you find a man saying that is is an irrelevant demand to expect a repeatable experiment. This is science?

This man also speaks about a new institution, in a talk in which he was resigning as Director of the Institute of Parapsychology. And, in telling people what to do next, he says that one of things they have to do is be sure the only train students who have shown their ability to get PSI results to an acceptable extent–not to waste their time on those ambitious and interested students who get only chance results. It is very dangerous to have such a policy in teaching–to teach students only how to get certain results, rather than how to do an experiment with scientific integrity.

So I have just one wish for you–the good luck to be somewhere where you are free to maintain the kind of integrity I have described, and where you do not feel forced by a need to maintain your position in the organization, or financial support, or so on, to lose your integrity. May you have that freedom.

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For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled.

– Feynmans closing words, Appendix F – Personal Observations on Reliability of Shuttle

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I have to wonder, with what we observe today about how government funded science operates, what would Dr. Feynman say about it?

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November 17, 2013 9:51 am

While The Git has been a very great admirer of Feynman these many long years, in this otherwise excellent piece he propagates a myth regarding rhinoceros horn. Feynman states “During the Middle Ages there were all kinds of crazy ideas, such as that a piece of of rhinoceros horn would increase potency.”
And this is what rhino horn has been/is actually used for:

Their horns have been admired for centuries because of their beautiful appearance when carved and polished, and also for their so-called healing properties.
In Yemen in the Middle East, rhino horns are in demand as they are used for making beautiful hand carved handles of daggers called “jambiya”. These daggers are presented to Yemeni boys at the age of 12 years as a sign of manhood. They are prized possessions and Yemeni men will pay high prices for such daggers which also often have jewels inlaid in them.
A bigger problem is the use of rhino horns for traditional medicine in many Asian countries, but specifically in Malaysia, South Korea, India, China and Vietnam.
The horns are ground up into powder and used to “cure” many ailments such as fevers, rheumatism, gout etc. The horns were also said to cure snakebites, hallucinations, headaches, vomiting, food poisoning among others.

The rhino horn myth seems to be as persistent as the myths of theologians counting the number of angels dancing on the head of a pin and Galileo dropping his balls* from the tower at Pisa and arriving at the ground simultaneously to everyone’s consternation.
* Humour intentional.
Disclaimer: I am heavily influenced by Adrian Belew’s Lone Rhinoceros

November 17, 2013 9:59 am

Allan MacRae says: “I further suggest that within a decade, conventional climate science wisdom will shift to the view that temperature drives atmospheric CO2, and CO2 does not significantly drive temperature. ”
Mike M says: November 17, 2013 at 7:50 am
Or worse as I have speculated from a systems viewpoint, I think (?) consistent with the ice record, CO2 may ~somehow~ act to ultimately clamp temperature rise. Is it not true in each cycle that CO2 always seems to be at a relative maximum when temperature turns around and begins to trend downward?
Allan again:
I must respectfully disagree Mike.
I suggest you look at your “systems approach” this way:
Atmospheric CO2 does not significantly drive Earth temperature.
CO2 lags Earth temperature in time.
This does not preclude other sources of CO2 such as fossil fuel combustion or deforestation.
Repeating for clarity:
CO2 does not significantly drive climate (Earth temperature).
The overwhelming evidence is that increasing CO2 is irrelevant to Earth temperature within the bounds of reasonably foreseeable reality.
“CO2 does not matter one whit. It’s all Cargo Cult bull$hit.”
Regards, Allan :-}

November 17, 2013 10:04 am

Ed Hinton says:
November 17, 2013 at 5:53 am
However, you lost me when you asserted mind-reading cannot occur while in reality it is quite unscientific thinking to assume something is impossible just because we don’t understand a phenomenon well enough to predict or control it.

I can read some minds. I read the mate’s mind all the time and she never says I’m wrong. I don’t think it is brain waves though. I think it is smell. And not the kind of smell you can recognize – like violets say – but pheromones. I think each thought pattern has its own smell – for a given individual. But it might be brain waves. Either idea is becoming testable. Some day we ought to do tests.

November 17, 2013 10:05 am

Dodgy Geezer says:
November 17, 2013 at 5:33 am
@M Simon says:
Speaking of rats you might find this rat experiment of interest. So much of our public policy is based on badly performed rat experiments.
That’s because, to a politician, society is composed of badly performing rats….

Too funny. Too true.

November 17, 2013 10:10 am

Re: mind reading and sense of smell. Everyone knows the phrase “smell of fear”. And if the fear is strong enough almost anyone can smell it.

John West
November 17, 2013 10:11 am

“In summary, the idea is to give all of the information to help others to judge the value of your contribution; not just the information that leads to judgement in one particular direction or another.
That’s exactly what was missing from the official narrative that made me suspicious when I first started looking into it for myself back in the 90’s.

Arno Arrak
November 17, 2013 10:12 am

I totally agree with Feynman’s concept of integrity in science. I love the way he brings in numerical examples implicating distortion of facts by management. It is catching and individual scientists are not beyond stretching the truth as he points out. That is a big problem with global warming science and it can happen on both sides of the fence. For me it was an eye-opener when you flatly refused to believe my well-documented data on Arctic warming. It is hard to accept that greenhouse warming has nothing to do with it but for you to bullshit about English grammar and some nebulous cycles is not a scientific argument. For your information, you are not the only one to disbelieve me. The entire gaggle of warmists are against me too and still talk of greenhouse warming in the Arctic. And on this side, Donald Rapp is a blowhard who claimed that I utterly lacked proof. He did not like it when I pointed out that proof was in his own book and would not talk to me again. Feynman calls it lack of integrity but I would go further and call it mostly stupidity. Jim Watson has it about right when he says in the Double Helix that “…One could not be a successful scientist without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of scientists, a goodly number of scientists are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.”

November 17, 2013 10:21 am

James Cross says:
November 17, 2013 at 5:58 am
Actually “witch doctor” remedies do often work.

The witch doctors have a cure for cancer: http://phoenixtears.ca/
A biochemist, Dennis Hill, who has used it explains how it works.
It would be nice to see some studies on this
The National Cancer institute has animal studies.

Steve Oregon
November 17, 2013 10:30 am

My sister returned from a trip where she was shown a 911 conspiracy video by another relative.
She returned having been convinced it was not a plane that hit the Pentagon.
Whoa Nellie!
Homo Sapiens, evolving very slowly, have a long way to go in developing the BS gene.

November 17, 2013 10:32 am

Robin says:
November 17, 2013 at 6:34 am
M Simon-
Feelings and intuition may be a component of effective thought for many people but the organized efforts at educational reform that are my professional stock and trade are determined to substitute feelings and intuition for rational thought.

Robin,
On this we agree. It is criminal. However, “I have a bad feeling about this” is quite common. We should not throw the baby out with the bath water. The problem is in the correct training of the biocomputer so feelings match reality. To do otherwise is criminal. PTSD is a case where there is a feeling/reality mismatch. We do know how to program the mismatch. We are not very good at unprogramming it.

November 17, 2013 10:38 am

Tony Mach says:
November 17, 2013 at 2:27 am
“I have to wonder, with what we observe today about how government funded science operates, what would Dr. Feynman say about it?”
You quote Feynman at length, and then put such a turd on it? Do you want to say that people do not do “stupid” things, as long as the source of funding is “private”? Is your working hypothesis that government funding is the main problem in (climate) science today? Is that what you take away from that text by Feynman? Have you tried to understand it? Have you even read it? Sorry for blurting out, but you’re a helluva long way from understanding the problems in (climate) science, man!

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The problem isn’t so much that government funding is involved but that the funding is only used to support certain conclusions that support a political agenda.
The Manhattan Project was government funding to find a weapon to win WW2. Research that wasn’t sound or practical was discarded. They had to have something that actually worked, not to promote Roosevelt’s “The New Deal” but to defeat a real enemy.
The problems in climate science is that only what promotes “The Raw Deal” is funded.

November 17, 2013 10:48 am

G. Karst says:
November 17, 2013 at 8:36 am
Tony Mach says:
November 17, 2013 at 2:27 am
… or cold fusion reactors.
What was your scientific investigation results that causes you to lump LENR (cold fusion) results into the same bag as palmistry and astrology.

For one thing it is very difficult to measure. It is very easy to make mistakes in low level calorimetry. Secondly the preconditioning is not accounted for. Thirdly the results are not consistent. Sometimes radiation and radioactive debris. Sometimes not.
I admit that there is something there. And it may or may not prove useful as an energy generator or even just a water heater. Or a useful kind of chemistry. But so far no one has been able to pin it down or even prove it is an LENR.

Reg. Blank
November 17, 2013 11:06 am

for nature cannot be fooled.
Also, nature doesn’t care.

mysterian
November 17, 2013 11:07 am

Before Feynmann was Langmuir. Checkout “Langmuir’s talk on Pathological Science” at http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~ken/Langmuir/langmuir.htm

Theo Goodwin
November 17, 2013 11:16 am

“I looked up the subsequent history of this research. The next experiment, and the one after that, never referred to Mr. Young. They never used any of his criteria of putting the corridor on sand, or being very careful. They just went right on running the rats in the same old way, and paid no attention to the great discoveries of Mr. Young, and his papers are not referred to, because he didn’t discover anything about the rats.In fact, he discovered all the things you have to do to discover something about rats. But not payin g attention to experiments like that is a characteristic example of cargo cult science.”
“In fact, he discovered all the things you have to do to discover something about rats.”
This is the clearest statement of the importance of experiment and of empiricism to science. By today’s standards it is so far-reaching, though totally correct, that many scientists who are skeptics about AGW will not be able to accept it.
My criticism of Mann, aside from the moral matters, has always been that he has not “discovered all the things you have to do to discover something about” tree ring size.

Theo Goodwin
November 17, 2013 11:19 am

“M Simon says:
November 17, 2013 at 10:10 am
Re: mind reading and sense of smell. Everyone knows the phrase “smell of fear”. And if the fear is strong enough almost anyone can smell it.”
Yeah, I smell fear right now and over the internet to boot.

November 17, 2013 11:42 am

” Robin says:
November 17, 2013 at 3:31 am
The idea of Feynmann at Esalen is a hoot. And the people at Esalen have been quite involved over the years in pushing feelings and beliefs instead of knowledge as the focus of schools. The individual Axemaker Mind is deemed not to be a good way to get to Riane Eisler’s Caring Economics.”
I didn’t know that this was happening. However to get some accreditation, I have to write a refective statement on a Code of Practice. I wrote about 5 words that the guy ain’t happy with and wants me to rewrite it. Anyway I had to look it up and I found this.
http://www.monash.edu.au/lls/llonline/writing/education/reflective-writing/1.xml
“Reflecting on theory and school practice is important in Education courses. The need to think reflectively improves your ability to read critically and analyse course readings, ideas presented in class and experiences in schools. As you write you clarify your own understanding. The process of thinking and writing reflectively helps you to lay philosophical foundations for your teaching career.
Reflection guides you as you:
explore issues or ideas that are important for you
react to the text or situation by agreeing or disagreeing and explaining why
discuss links between the ideas on a topic to the work of more than one writer (you need at least two)
consider classroom practice (or other field experience) to what is appropriate for you
develop a personal philosophy of practice.”
I am thinking what a load of BS. Reflective thinking helps you think critically? I don’t think so. It is new age touchy feely rubbish. I used to be a troubleshooter for mobile networks in Telstra and Ericsson. When a switch fell apart you didn’t have time to get all reflective about it – you had to work it out and get it back.
On another point, when I was a new Christian one of my teachers told me to apply the 3 ‘effs’. These in order are Fact, Faith, Feelings. Basically never do or think anything based on feelings and emotion. Gather facts first, even if you don’t have 100% (and rarely do we have 100%) you can move forward in the faith that what you do will work.

November 17, 2013 11:57 am

Unfortunately not only Feynman’s fine ‘cargo cult science’ address remains unknown to the great mass of facebookers and twatterers. Even the great man himself remains largely unknown. That isn’t going to change in my lifetime.

November 17, 2013 11:59 am

Feynman was wrong of course, and even failed to follow his own advice.
Let’s start here
“We’ve learned from experience that the truth will come out. Other experimenters will repeat your experiment and find out whether you were wrong or right. Nature’s phenomena will agree or they’ll disagree with your theory. ”
The problem is that Feynman wants to generalize from lab science to all other forms of science.Some experiments are not repeatable.Some experiments, as I will explain below, are repeatable in principle, but we would never repeat them. And in general nature always disagrees with theory, the issue is the size of the disagreement. When the disagreement becomes terribly small, we call the disagreement “error” or “uncertainty” which is really a description of our knowledge and not nature.
Now, let’s consider Feynman’s notion and practice some skepticism
“I explained to her that it was necessary first to repeat in her laboratory the experiment of the other person–to do it under condition X to see if she could also get result A, and then change to Y and see if A changed. Then she would know the the real difference was the thing she thought she had under control.”
And let’s ask the question, Did Feynman do this himself?
let’s take a famous example: The challenger investigation. Of course we all know that moment when Feynman put the O ring in the cold water. Feynman had observed a small outgassing from the SRB in the video and hypothesized that this was related to the O-Ring failing. Of course, he does an experiment to show the effect of cold on an O-ring. But does science stop there?
Can he just assume that because this O-ring became brittle that the O-ring in the challenger became brittle. How do we test that? Well, like the experiments with Rats he described ( a fiction by the way ) one would have to replicate the launch and all the conditions of the launch.
Did he suggest that? No. No one would suggest repeating the experiment. And no one would suggest that Feynman was unscientific in concluding that the frozen O ring caused the accident. Why? we can all see that it clearly could have been something else. We can all see that just because he found one explanation that other explanations are not ruled out. And,
we dont have to offer another explanation. Skeptics just get to be skeptical. They dont have to offer alternative theories. right? We accept Feynman’s explanation even though its not tested with repeated experiments in which the conditions of the launch are rigourously repeated. We accept his explanation, even though we can say “it could be something else.” We accept Feynman’s explanation because it is good enough.
And then there are experiments that cannot be replicated. We all “know” that Reagan’s actions caused the collapse of the soviet union. Perhaps we should test that? Few of us think that banning guns in the US will lead to fewer gun crimes. Let’s test that.
Right now we are testing whether adding C02 will increase temperatures. And we are not doing the experiment in a controlled fashion. One way to test the theory is to stop all human C02 emmissions and watch what happens. Anyone want to follow Feynman’s suggestion?
Folk who think that C02 causes no harm can test their idea very easily. Stop emmitting C02.
Climate science is an observational science. In that science you dont get to do experiments.
in forensic-like sciences you dont ordinarily get to blow up shuttles to test your theories.
Suppose you have a hypothesis that the 9-11 buildings could not have been taken down by airplanes. If you followed Feynmans suggestion you’d build the buildings over and test it a large number of times. Instead people look at the evidence they have and draw the best conclusion they have. They apply some physics. And they conclude, yes the planes took the building down. Still there are skeptics who suggest otherwise. They argue that it could have been something else. How do we react to them? We call them nuts. In observational sciences, there are no structured repeatable experiments. There is just making sense of the data. In this science, there is no guaranntee “that the truth will come out” There is only the best explanation of the day. In this science you dont get to play unless you have a better explanation.
And lest folks forget Feynman’s renormalization
: “The shell game that we play to find n and j is technically called renormalization. But no matter how clever the word, it is what I would call a dippy process! Having to resort to such hocus-pocus has prevented us from proving the theory of quantum electrodynamics is mathematically self-consistent. …. I suspect that renormalization is not mathematically legitimate.”
in short, renormalization was accepted because it worked.

David Ball
November 17, 2013 12:09 pm
David Ball
November 17, 2013 12:12 pm

As usual, Mosher has it exactly backwards.

Theo Goodwin
November 17, 2013 12:17 pm

Steven Mosher says:
November 17, 2013 at 11:59 am
“Feynman was wrong of course, and even failed to follow his own advice.

Now, let’s consider Feynman’s notion and practice some skepticism
“I explained to her that it was necessary first to repeat in her laboratory the experiment of the other person–to do it under condition X to see if she could also get result A, and then change to Y and see if A changed. Then she would know the the real difference was the thing she thought she had under control.”
And let’s ask the question, Did Feynman do this himself?
let’s take a famous example: The challenger investigation.”
Are you really unaware that you have introduced an example of an event that is not an experiment and that requires no experimentation as a means of criticizing Feynman’s account of an experiment done under the protocols of the quintessentially lab bound science, Skinner’s conditioning experiments?
Feynman’s recommendations were for this lab bound Skinnerian science. Those recommendations are spot on. You have switched from lab experiment to grand tragedy that unfolded on a huge stage in the real world. In addition, there was no need for experimentation because there was no need for the accident. If administrators had followed the advice of engineers the accident would not have occurred.

November 17, 2013 12:31 pm

The Challenger incident was not an experiment so not repeatable, dipping an oring into cold water was an experiment and is repeatable!
Regan and the collapse of the USSR was not an experiment so it not something designed to be repeated.

milodonharlani
November 17, 2013 12:32 pm

Steven Mosher says:
November 17, 2013 at 11:59 am
No offense, but the wellsprings of your sophistry appear inexhaustible.
Feynman’s experiment with the O-ring was indeed tested. Subsequent Shuttles were safely launched, although not in the same cold conditions. But the failed launch itself was an experiment, since engineers warned in advance that the rings were liable to fail in the cold & indeed had not even been tested at temperatures near freezing, let alone below it.
Science outside of the lab test hypotheses all the time. It was in effect an experiment testing an hypothesis to look for a transitional fish-tetrapod in Late Devonian rocks of the Canadian Arctic, which is where Tiktaalik was found. Scientists predicted that proto-mammals with both the mammalian & “reptilian” jaw joint would be found in Late Triassic rocks, & sure enough they were, in sites from around the world.
So-called “climate science” also makes predictions to test hypotheses, but its voodoo practitioners try to wiggle out of or ignore the results. The hypothesis that man-made GHGs are 90% responsible for supposedly observed warming since 1950 (or whenever, as the start date is fungible) at the 95% confidence level has been repeatedly tested & shown false. Indeed, it was falsified on its face before the crazy hoax was ever first hatched, based upon prior valid data showing that observations were well within normal, natural limits & that CO2 levels correspond badly with temperature measurements.
So CACA has been falsified in both the scientific & ordinary senses of the word.

November 17, 2013 12:33 pm

Re Steven Mosher:
Reagan didn’t really help bring down the old Soviet Union? And Dr Feynman was only making a lucky guess?
OK then, who is right? Anyone? Or do things just ‘happen’?
In discussing skepticism, Mosher says: “Folk who think that C02 causes no harm…”
Sorry, but you’ve got it backward, Steven. The conjecture all along has been that CO2 is the cause of global warming. Therefore, per the Scientific Method, the onus is on the alarmist crowd to support their conjecture. It is not up to skeptics to prove a negative: that CO2 does not cause global warming. Skeptics merely point out the fact that there is no empirical evidence showing that CO2 causes global warming [I personally think that CO2 has a minuscule effect, which becomes smaller as more CO2 is emitted. But that is also only a conjecture].
So far, the alarmists have failed to make their case. There is no measurable scientific evidence showing that CO2 causes global warming. There are computer models. There are plenty of assertions. But the real world is falsifying the models and the assertions — all of them. The more data we collect, the more obvious it becomes that there is no correlation showing that ∆CO2 causes ∆T. All of the evidence shows exactly the opposite: that ∆T causes ∆CO2.
So, question: What would it take to get you to admit that the CO2=cAGW conjecture is wrong?