Some historical perspectives on Typhoon Haiyan-Yolanda

While we wait for wacky antagonist Greg Laden to make a decision on whether he’ll chip and and help the relief effort, here are some useful bits of information that help put this storm into the perspective of “worst ever” claims, and opportunistic claims about it being a product of global warming, like Greenpeace is doing:

Greenpeace_storms_cooling_towers
Note to Greenpeace: CO2 and soot comes out of the stack on the right, water vapor comes out of the cooling tower you labeled as “storms start here”.

But, when you look at the science for tropical cyclones in the region, such claims don’t even begin to hold up. These two papers show the reality from data – no trend, either in landfall or in total frequency/intensity of storms:

Kubota, H. and Chan, J.C.L. 2009. Interdecadal variability of tropical cyclone landfall in the Philippines from 1902 to 2005. Geophysical Research Letters 36: 10.1029/2009GL038108.

“Despite global warming during the 20th century the number of tropical cyclones annually making landfall in the Philippines did not experience any net change. All variability was merely oscillatory activity around a mean trend of zero slope”

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This is also backed up in Weinkle et al., 2012:

From currently available historical TC records, we constructed a long-period global hurricane landfall dataset using a consistent methodology. We have identified considerable interannual variability in the frequency of global hurricane landfalls; but within the resolution of the available data, our evidence does not support the presence of significant long-period global or individual basin linear trends for minor, major, or total hurricanes within the period(s) covered by the available quality data.

Therefore, our long-period analysis does not support claims that increasing TC landfall frequency or landfall intensity has contributed to concomitantly increasing economic losses.

Weinkle et al. Figure 2 A and C show the lack of trend:

Weinkle_etal_fig2A

Wienkle_etal_fig2C

Note that the WPAC represents the area including the Philippines:

Weinkle_etal_fig1B

It seems abundantly clear then that any claim trying to tie Typhoon Haiyan to a pattern of increased frequency of storms supposedly driven by “global warming” is patently false.

The news of Typhoon Haiyan is being bandied about in COP18 When Seth Borenstein doesn’t write articles for AP, here is the sort of balanced reporting you get: (h/t to Ryan Maue)

Typhoon Haiyan overshadows UN climate talks

IPCC_COP19_hurr

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/typhoon-haiyan-overshadows-un-climate-talks

And, the Washington Post points out something that puts the tragedy of Haiyan in perspective:

Most weather experts expected reports of horrific damage and high loss of life given the intensity of the storm and geography of the affected areas, but not many were prepared when Philippine officials estimated that as many as 10,000 people may have died in Tacloban City alone when Haiyan struck.

If this death toll estimate holds up, however, it wouldn’t even put Haiyan in the top 35 deadliest tropical cyclones on record.

The most recent credible death toll report on Haiyan is 1,774:

Figures from the National Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Council showed the number of dead stood at 1,774, radio dzBB’s Paulo Santos reported.

Here is the top 35 list of Deadliest Cyclones from Weather Underground:

Deadliest_cyclones

Better awareness, and better warnings thanks to technology combined with evacuations helped make Haiyan less of a tragedy than it could have been, though in the case of Tacloban, topography was the biggest factor in evacuations according to WaPo:

Mass evacuations of this sort are just not possible in some regions of the world, and this was certainly true of Tacloban and its surroundings. Many people in Tacloban were evacuated to sturdier buildings within the city itself, but due to the fact that the city lies on an island that is mostly mountainous, moving people out of the city and into other areas wasn’t possible.

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November 11, 2013 5:26 pm

Tim Walker says:
“Pippen cool have you been drinking the kool aid?”
Yes, of course he has. Pippen also has no understanding of the climate Null Hypothesis.
The current climate is actualy quite benign. No climate parameters exceed past parameters. Extreme weather events are less extreme than in the past.
And the Null Hypothesis has never been falsified.

Chris
November 11, 2013 5:38 pm

“Better awareness, and better warnings thanks to technology combined with evacuations helped make Haiyan less of a tragedy than it could have been.”
I would say dramatically less, so I don’t see how comparing fatalities indicates anything about storm strength. The government moved 800,000 people into storm shelters prior to Haiyan’s landfall. That kind of advance warning would have only been possible on a few of the storms listed in the top 35.

Richard M
November 11, 2013 5:56 pm

To my amazement the Weather Channel even admitted there was no tie to global warming and all that could be said was this was one of worst typhoons in a segment I watched this afternoon.

Mike H.
November 11, 2013 6:05 pm

milodonharlani 4:24,
The Marines died at Yokosuka not Okinawa. Other than that thanks, I didn’t know that.

Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)
November 11, 2013 6:24 pm

But Greenpeace and Laden are not alone. Perhaps the “scientific” basis for their claims came from the indomitable gurus, whose expertise is now at such a level that they need no data at all to support their claims.
Yes, folks, the dynamic duo (aka Lewandowsky and Mann) have spoken from on high:

Subterranean War: Some Reasonable Questions and Answers
[…]
This week’s typhoon that is now estimated to have killed 10,000 people in the Philippines might have occurred in the absence of climate change, although global warming likely put it on steroids. [emphasis added -hro]

Isn’t it good to know that these “experts” (who need no data) are “reticent … [and] … overly conservative”** in their pronouncements, eh?!
** If evidence is still your preferred mode on which to base conclusions, my evidence for this somewhat abbreviated quote from Mann-in-more-modest-mode can be found at Reticent Mann skates onto melting ice, reinforces Stocker’s “choice”.

November 11, 2013 6:37 pm

Given the wide range in estimated fatalities from the Great Bhola Cyclone in the Bay of Bengal in 1970, just how reliable are the fatality figures from earlier cyclones in the same area?

Hideki Motosua
November 11, 2013 7:08 pm

According to IPCC2007 it should be less hurricanes but with greater intensity…….not sure how they arrive at that https://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch10s10-es-13-tropical-cyclones.html

OssQss
November 11, 2013 7:17 pm

Well,,,,,,,,, of all the very good info I absorbed from this post, the most important is not to live in ~The Bay Of Bengal~…..….
Just sayin!

Tad
November 11, 2013 7:23 pm

My wife comes from the hardest-hit area of south-eastern Samar. It is now 11/11/13 (Monday night) here in the US and we’re still waiting to hear if her family is alive or not. In the meantime, the “Climate Change Commissioner” for the Philippines is saying things like, “To climate change doubters, visit PH”, and “We refuse to accept typhoons as way of life”. The mindlessness of these statements is breathtaking, truly Mannian, but to the semi-educated (i.e., college degreed) of the third world, this sort of thing resonates.

Bobajot
November 11, 2013 7:31 pm

The problem with natural events like hurricanes is where they land. In a populated are then immense loss of life is inevitable otherwise nobody hears about them. It’s not possible to measure storms in the past simply on the number of people who died.
Sandy’s destruction in N. York was down to very poor flood defences it wasn’t that big in real terms. The same applies to the Philippines. Even rudimentary building of sand hills with stabilising plant life will mitigate most of the effects of storm surges. It’s sad that so many people have died because adequate flood defences weren’t in place. If they are unwilling or unable to build such defences then erecting anything close to the beach (high water mark + contingency) should not be allowed.
I read a complete history of Boulder’s incompetence over the last century in being ready for the next inevitable flood.
None of this stuff is attributable to AGW it’s been going on for billions of years. I still can’t get my head round the idea that there is a steady state for climate.

Keith Minto
November 11, 2013 7:54 pm

This is not getting easier…..
Typhoon Haiyan: Philippines climate chief Yeb Sano makes emotional plea for climate change action
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/typhoon-haiyan-philippines-climate-chief-yeb-sano-makes-emotional-plea-for-climate-change-action/25903

Richard Sharpe
November 11, 2013 8:12 pm

Typhoon Haiyan: Philippines climate chief Yeb Sano makes emotional plea for climate change action
The last desperate stand of ratbags.

hunter
November 11, 2013 8:18 pm

The frustrating thing when a high level insider like Yeb Sano makes a plea like this is that he is diverting attention from his failure to help prepare his nation for the inevitability of storms. This is not the worst storm to have ever hit the Philippines. It will not be the last.
If he is as educated as he claims, he should know this.
Why did he not help prepare people in vulnerable areas better?
Why is he pursuing this course instead of actually helping his nation?
Why is he making statements that are not supported by history or fact?

November 11, 2013 8:38 pm

Legatus says November 11, 2013 at 3:27 pm
First, no increase in warming seen for 16 years and 11 months (and counting) …

And have ya seen the arctic cold front that literally pouring cold air down in the central US states? Hoo-Wee! We gonna have ourselves a good freeze! There is lake-effect snow pouring out of low clouds on the western shore and inland a little ways in Michigan already!
What was the conclusion of the (Old?) Farmers Almanac again for this winter?
.

John F. Hultquist
November 11, 2013 8:38 pm

Matthew W says:
November 11, 2013 at 4:56 pm
The top 12 storms all had over 100,00 dead!!
I cannot imagine that !

Best, then, to not think about earthquakes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1556_Shaanxi_earthquake
~830,000
For others, see:
http://www.livescience.com/6932-deadliest-earthquakes-history.html

Gad Levin
November 11, 2013 8:40 pm

I just read at: http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/typhoon-yolanda-the-strongest-since-2006/ that in 2006 there was a typhoon in the Philippines which reached wind speed of 320 kph compared to 275 of the current storm. The name was Reming (Durian).
A similar storm with wind speed of 275 kph hit the Philippines in 1970.
In my opinion the wind speed is what matters, less than the number of victims which depends on where the storm hits.

rogerknights
November 11, 2013 8:49 pm

hunter says:
November 11, 2013 at 8:18 pm
The frustrating thing when a high level insider like Yeb Sano makes a plea like this is that he is diverting attention from his failure to help prepare his nation for the inevitability of storms.

Mayor Bloomberg did the same diversion act in the wake of Sandy. He’d ignored a 2006 report from Stony Brook college academics who’d recommended construction of a $6 billion storm surge barrier + highway (from NJ to LI). This was too technological-fixy and not green enough for him.

November 11, 2013 8:52 pm

Well slightly off topic, but…
There is a comment forum on CNN regarding this storm. I was skimming though it, and was startled by how primitive the discussion of the science there actually is. I jumped into a couple of comments threads to rebut false information, providing references and quotes to back up my assertions….
AND THEY WERE DELETED
Now that’s the behaviour I’ve come to expect from the likes of RealClimate and Skeptical Science. But CNN? The facts I pointed out weren’t all that controversial, and some of my references were the AR5 reports themselves, yet…poof, gone.
I never had much respect for CNN in the past, I have even less now.

milodonharlani
November 11, 2013 9:16 pm

Mike H. says:
November 11, 2013 at 6:05 pm
You’re right. Sorry about that. The Marines tragically killed by the after-effects of Typhoon Tip weren’t on Okinawa. But that was a monster storm.

November 11, 2013 9:18 pm

As far as the “world record” for a land falling storm, I think this would be the record – from Wackapedia:
“The highest wind speed ever recorded of 253 MPH was during the passage of Tropical Cyclone Olivia on 10 April 1996, an automatic weather station on Barrow Island, Australia, registered a maximum wind gust of 408 km/h (220 kn; 253 mph; 113 m/s).[2] The wind gust was evaluated by the WMO Evaluation Panel who found that the anemometer was mechanically sound and the gust was within statistical probability and ratified the measurement in 2010…” Of course it was a recorded as a “gust”.
This surpassed the former wind speed record on Mt Washington, NH.

November 11, 2013 9:18 pm
JD
November 11, 2013 9:33 pm

A news summary of the coverage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV-0S-go7iU

November 11, 2013 9:40 pm

Werner Brozek says:
November 11, 2013 at 9:18 pm
You’re right that is hard to watch, even the part by Dr. Spencer as I don’t think the human fingerprint is even measurable, it is so small. The other guy thinks that every storm or weather event is caused by mankind…

Gad Levin
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
November 12, 2013 6:39 am

Mr. Peterson,
Dr. Spence, whom I admire, made four basic mistakes which every novice debater who has any experience of engaging with the “left” knows:
1. He should have refused to appear with an ignorant reporter, rather than a scientist.
2. If he had just discovered who is debating him, he should have said bluntly, Sir, you don’t know what you are talking about, here are the scientific facts: ..,
3. He shouldn’t have conceded 50% to the “left”, any concession you make with them, serves them as a new attack position.
4. He shouldn’t let the other guy (with the help of Pierce) filibuster the debate.

November 11, 2013 9:40 pm

Werner Brozek says:
November 11, 2013 at 9:18 pm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
What total and complete yellow journalism. CNN clearly has an agenda which I’ve noticed in their international reporting as well as their climate science reporting. They belong on Anthony’s blog roll, right up there with SkS.

November 11, 2013 9:49 pm

Possibly even more terrifying than the suffering of the poor population of the Central Philippines is seeing the parade of clowns from the UN in Warsaw claiming that the typhoon was created by Global Warming and CO2. The fact that there is no Global Warming, and has not been for 15-17 years, does not impinge on their mindless enthusiasm to spread the propaganda. Most of them are working so hard on the propaganda that they are doing nothing to assist those in severe need in the Central Philippines. They have completely abandoned reason, science and compassion as well. There is a circle reserved in Dante’s Inferno for people of this sort.