People don't think the price of 'saving the climate' is worth the price of dinner for two

From the “just wait until they hear about Al Gore’s 24 hour demand for a carbon tax” department comes this story from the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Biology

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People don’t put a high value on climate protection

Without further incentives selfish behaviour will continue to dominate

People are bad at getting a grip on collective risks. Climate change is a good example of this: the annual climate summits have so far not led to specific measures. The reason for this is that people attach greater value to an immediate material reward than to investing in future quality of life. Therefore, cooperative behaviour in climate protection must be more strongly associated with short-term incentives such as rewards or being held in high esteem.

Would you rather have €40 (about $55 USD) or save the climate?

When the question is put in such stark terms, the common sense answer is obviously: “stop climate change!” After all, we are well-informed individuals who act for the common good and, more particularly, for the good of future generations. Or at least that’s how we like to think of ourselves.

Unfortunately, the reality is rather different. Immediate rewards make our brains rejoice and when such a reward beckons we’re happy to behave cooperatively. But if achieving a common goal won’t be rewarded until a few weeks have gone by, we are rather less euphoric and less cooperative. And if, instead of money, we’re offered the prospect of a benefit for future generations, our enthusiasm for fair play wanes still further.

An international team of researchers led by Manfred Milinski from the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Biology has shown how poorly we manage collective risk. “Our experiment is based on an essay which Thomas Schelling, the Nobel laureate in economics, wrote back in 1995”, explains Milinski. Schelling pointed out that it was today’s generation which would have to make the efforts for climate protection, while it would be future generations who would gain the benefits. So the people of the present have little motivation actually to do anything. Does this gloomy theory withstand experimental scrutiny?

To find out, the researchers had to convert this problem into a simple experimental situation. They had the participants play a modified public goods game. Such games are very common in behavioural economics and always follow the same pattern. The participants receive a certain amount of money and are invited to donate a proportion of it over a number of rounds. The donated money is doubled and this amount is divided equally between the players. Anything which was not donated goes directly in the player’s pocket. The most profitable behaviour in such games is to donate nothing at all and simply benefit from the altruism of the other players.

The researchers modified the rules to incorporate averting impending climate change into the game. Each player received a starting fund of €40 and, playing over ten rounds, was able to decide how much of it to keep or donate. The donated money was invested in a climate change advertising campaign and was thus a simulated investment in climate protection. There were also bonus payments: those groups which donated more than half of their total fund were symbolically able to avoid dangerous climate change and were paid an additional €45 per participant. If the group donated less, all the players had a 90% probability of losing their endowment.

Three scenarios were devised to model the fact that the benefits of saving the climate are only felt in the future. Players from successful groups were paid their endowment either on the day after the experiment (scenario 1) or seven weeks later (scenario 2). In scenario 3, the endowment was not paid out to the players at all, but was instead invested in planting oak trees and thereby in climate protection. Over their lifetime, the trees will absorb carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and their wood will be a valuable building material for future generations.

However, not one of the eleven groups which was offered the prospect of planting oak trees achieved the donation target. On average, just €57 were paid into the climate account instead the objective of €120. That’s less than half of the target amount. In the first scenario, seven out of ten groups were successful, the participants donating on average €108, while the players in the second scenario still donated €83 (four out of ten groups were successful). “The result of our experiment paints a gloomy picture of the future”, summarises Milinski. “We were unfortunately able to confirm Schelling’s prediction – it’s a disaster.”

Climate change is the largest public goods game that has ever been played and the whole of humanity are its players. The problem is that while we are now making the payments, the fruits of our efforts will only be enjoyed very much later and they will be shared among the whole of humanity. We ourselves or our children will thus benefit only very slightly from any restrictions we place on our lives today and our motivation actually to do something is correspondingly low.

These results make it clear that if people are to invest in climate protection, they must have short-term incentives to do so. “It’s not enough simply to point to the benefits future generations will enjoy”, says Jochem Marotzke from the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, one of the authors of the study. “Climate protection will only be effective if the people making the effort will also be able to obtain a short-term material benefit from doing so, for instance by exporting climate-friendly technology.”

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DirkH
October 23, 2013 10:46 am

“Climate change is the largest public goods game that has ever been played and the whole of humanity are its players.”
The Max Planck institutes have devolved into a bunch of idiotic rent-seekers.
Pretty sad.

Jim from Maine
October 23, 2013 10:53 am

Very difficult to read this article, given the amount of baseless statements and assumptions used to set forth the premise.
They completely ignore the fact that some/many/most people don’t BELIEVE in CAWG, but the authors accept it as proven fact. Theu believe that everyone accepts that it’s real and proven, but everyone chooses to continue with their “selfish” behavior rather than contribute to the greater good of humanity and save the planet.
So basically, we all suck.
For the authors, there are only two possibilities…those that don’t believe them are either stooopid, or selfish, or both. Does it get any higher or mightier than that? What hubris.
It really is like reading a religious text or article. Not a stitch of critical thinking.

GlynnMhor
October 23, 2013 10:54 am

Given the way the ‘climate change’ paradigm is playing out at present, I don’t see being able to collect any 45 Euros from the future anyway.
I’d get the dinner for two, a few nice drinks, and a pleasant evening not being harrassed by the rent-seekers.

October 23, 2013 10:55 am

It SHOULD say:
Climate change is the largest public goods game that a major portion of humankind was ever suckered into playing.
Jim from Maine

Doug Huffman
October 23, 2013 10:59 am

Which would you rather, quit beating your wife or save the world?

David L.
October 23, 2013 10:59 am

So basically one shouldn’t be surprised that people want to live a good life now, rather than live below their current standard so that generations from now can live a good life?
In other words and more drastically, if I’m afraid there won’t be enough food for someone hundreds of years from now, I should starve myself to death now.

Barry Cullen
October 23, 2013 11:01 am

Humanity is already spending $359×10^9/YEAR/7.2×10^9 people = ~$50/person-yr so we are already spending very close to what the rent seekers require of us.
http://www.thegwpf.org/world-spending-1-billion-day-tackle-global-warming/

Janice Moore
October 23, 2013 11:03 am

1. Acting in one’s self interest is not, per se, “selfish.” “Selfish” is when one serves one’s own interests to the significant detriment of another’s.
2. This stupid article misses the main point: it is illogical to invest much capital in a highly uncertain. The people playing the “researchers” rigged game are only demonstrating rationally risk-averse behavior. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE that human CO2 does anything to change the climate of the Earth. Anyone who would invest in a proposal as preposterous as AGW would be a fool.
Only the Bernie Madoffs of the world, i.e., those who are in on the start-up of the Ponzi or pyramid scheme, stand to benefit. Later investors, say, in the perpetually negative ROI windmills, are going to be left holding the bag (and that’s why they are screaming: “Global warming!!! — don’t you care if we all die?!!! Don’t you want to save the PLANET?!!!”
The average citizen, once informed of the facts, is quite right to say to such scammers: “Get lost.”
The fatuous inanity of the above article is incredible, i.e., “Very Poor.”

October 23, 2013 11:04 am

Well this assumes that people universally think there’s a problem — but there’s not. Change exists and it is constant. It’s like saying the Earth is getting too heavy because of all the people on it.

October 23, 2013 11:05 am

Then we have the doom’s day preppers and lottery players.

Tim Walker
October 23, 2013 11:06 am

This is another joke of a paper. Group wants to try and prove the truth of a AGW vaunted essay. They are getting their money for the research because? Doesn’t say, but one suspects it is because they are doing AGW research (based on how the grant moneys are flowing, it is politics). So they want to prove something, and they want to get more AGW grant money, which will make their bosses at the University happy. Now they need to find some people to play a game, which will show their pet theory to be correct. To make it obvious we need the game to show the participants it is all about AGW.
It is frustrating to think it is even called science. Can anyone count the conflicts of interest involved that would skew the results. How stupid do they think everyone is.
Oh wait, they’re smart scientist and that means they know other scientist do science the same way. So scientists won’t be bothered by it, unless those scientists are stupid, not real scientists. Everybody else are non-scientists and therefore they don’t know anything. Those non-scientists are just ignorant shills whose enthusiasm must be encouraged. We do need the ignorant shills to continue to foot our bills for our, coughs and giggles, work.

October 23, 2013 11:08 am

The whole premise doesn’t work. The choice was not between a dinner and saving the world, but between a dinner and planting a tree, somewhere. My personal priorities would be 1) saving the world, 2) dinner, 3) plant a tree. Seems the players agreed, that’s all.

Janice Moore
October 23, 2013 11:10 am

“… highly uncertain (investment)”
Hey, Moderator — WAY — TO — GO! That was the fastest in-and-out of moderation I’ve ever experienced. Thank you! Janice
[De nada.☺ — mod.]

Doug Huffman
October 23, 2013 11:16 am

fhhaynie says: October 23, 2013 at 11:05 am “Then we have the doom’s day preppers and lottery players.”
Is there a problem? I live on a remote, rural and relatively inaccessible island and I am aware of the benefits of isolation. Does that make me a “prepper”? I read and enjoyed N. N. Taleb’s The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable. What I save in not spending on mass-edutainment, I spend on a lottery ticket and real books.

Editor
October 23, 2013 11:17 am

If our ancestors back in the 18thC had decided to abandon the Industrial Revolution, because of future risk of climate change, where would we be now?
Living out short, brutish lives on the land , or in filthy, disease ridden towns. Still, at least we could take comfort from the nice, cold weather!

thallstd
October 23, 2013 11:18 am

Just imagine how much more disappointed the researchers would have been if their rules actually mirrored the more likely scenario of massive payments now for little if any benefit ever.

October 23, 2013 11:21 am

Al Gore has enough money. If I had to choose, Id definitely go to dinner.

Steve C
October 23, 2013 11:24 am

I’ll take the 40 euro meal, thanks. That’s a certain good. “Saving the climate”, on the other hand, is only a good at all if you believe both (a) that there’s something it needs saving from and (b) that humanity is remotely capable of saving it anyhow. Which I don’t, either of ’em. Easy choice!

andrewmharding
Editor
October 23, 2013 11:25 am

It’s been said before but I am going to say it again, I would accept the free dinner because climate change caused by CO2 is not happening!
Why don’t the researchers ask this question? Would you bet £100 at odds of 97-1 that CO2 based AGW is not happening and will be disproved within five years? Because I would, £9,700 for a £100 bet, bet there are no takers! (I got the figure of 97 from the percentage of scientists who it is claimed, believe in AGW!)
Oh! and how the hell did the psychologists get involved? Let me guess they are lefties too!

October 23, 2013 11:27 am

Could publicly funded scientists condemn themselves any better?

Mike Bromley the Kurd
October 23, 2013 11:28 am

Astounding bit of “research”. Equivocation between evolution and a thinly-disguised Marxist Dialectic. They should walk the Planck.

Gene Selkov
October 23, 2013 11:31 am

There may be a valid observation about the nature of collective action, but it is marred by irrelevant drivel about climate change.
Many interesting experiments have been made during the last century in the studies of collective efforts by humans and other animals. One odd study my father told me about was made by a work safety lab at a factory where he worked when he was young.
They asked the test subjects to name the heaviest among a few objects offered that they felt they could comfortably lift and carry a certain distance. The weight of the heaviest object was noted for each person. Then the same task, but with heavier objects, was offered to variously sized groups of same people, ranging from two to a dozen. The result was that while a single person could easily handle a 40-kg weight, a group of ten required multiple attempts or even failed to lift a 200-kg weight. When they dug into details, they found that most participants delayed the application of their own effort until they saw the group effort expressed in actual motion. They noted a monotonous progression of disability with the number of participants in the group.
Observations like that have delivered useful insights, but calling on them to explain our reluctance to participate in a scam is disingenuous and insulting. Now, where’s my $55 I saved by not saving the climate?

October 23, 2013 11:31 am

Stupid study about a stupid assumption carried out in a (surprise, surprise) stupid fashion

October 23, 2013 11:32 am

1) the logical conclusion is dont fight human nature, which you can’t change; adapt as needed because trying to “prevent” is a losing / useless battle.
2) As this is posed as an economic problem, do a NPV calculation on any investment made today , with the return to be 50+ years in the future – you will find that investment is basically worthless. Why would anyone do this? Clearly, from this study, people do have some innate feeling that this future return has less value to them – people naturally do a “gut feel” NPV calculation when making decisions
3) I am sure what the authors are really after is to use this study to justify totalitarian govt control over how we use energy. Be afraid. Be very afraid!

cba
October 23, 2013 11:32 am

most likely scenario is to squander scarce resources on solutions to non problems that end up creating more serious problems.

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