Weekend Open Thread

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I’m taking the weekend off, as I need to do some climate unrelated work, which is physical, and always good for the soul, and I need to spend time with my family, who often get neglected due to the amount of time I put into this blog.

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Edohiguma
October 19, 2013 12:05 pm

Heard today that Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to run for POTUS in 2016. He said he’s ready to start lobbying to change the Constitution and also preparing a lawsuit.
Clearly he’s not content with running Califailure into the ground.

October 19, 2013 12:17 pm

I’ve added some Antarctic ice and sea data level analysis since I last posted in a weekend thread.
http://www.climatechangedebates.com
Still planning to add more kinds of analysis and eventually add wildfire, drought, hurricane data, as well as make it look prettier and eventually add graphs. Slow work in progress, feel free to critique.

DirkH
October 19, 2013 12:43 pm

Edohiguma says:
October 19, 2013 at 12:05 pm
“Heard today that Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to run for POTUS in 2016.”
Dis shall be de moment ven se ocean stopped to rise and se planet began to heal. Kome viz me if you vont to live.

Jesus Green
October 19, 2013 12:44 pm

Peer Review.
Not climate related but interesting. A biologist called Michael Eisen, at UC Berkeley and an Investigator of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute says in his own words:
“In 2011, after having read several really bad papers in the journal Science, I decided to explore just how slipshod their peer-review process is. I knew that their business depends on publishing “sexy” papers. So I created a manuscript that claimed something extraordinary – that I’d discovered a species of bacteria that uses arsenic in its DNA instead of phosphorus. But I made the science so egregiously bad that no competent peer reviewer would accept it. The approach was deeply flawed – there were poor or absent controls in every figure. I used ludicrously elaborate experiments where simple ones would have done. And I failed to include a simple, obvious experiment that would have definitively shown that arsenic was really in the bacteria’s DNA. I then submitted the paper to Science, punching up the impact the work would have on our understanding of extraterrestrials and the origins of life on Earth in the cover letter. And what do you know? They accepted it! ”
http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1439

Luke Warmist
October 19, 2013 12:46 pm

The Coming Unobtanium Crisis
 As retirement draws ever closer, I’ve arrived at a new means of supplementing my income, and hopefully avoid the job as a Walmart greeter.
 After examining all the data carefully, it appears the time is right for the newest global threat to life as we know it, and that is the release of Unobtanium into our atmosphere and water by our mere existence. I’ve chosen Unobtanium, since all the other good GHG’s and trace elements have already been by taken by other groups, and I didn’t want something that hasn’t worked out so well for them.
 The first order of business was to recruit my chief modeler, 11 year old Tommy B. from Grand Rapids. Tommy was first runner-up in the regional Lego competition, so he’s uniquely qualified for this position and brings keen insight to the task ahead. He will construct two models, one for runaway warming, and a second for runaway cooling. This is crucial, inasmuch as nobody knows at this point which direction it will eventually strongly trend. I’m shipping 2 flats of cherries to be used in these models, since they are essential to reinforcing which ever postulate we wish to advance. When the models are completed, they will be  cryogenically stored in the vessel next to the one that contains Ted Williams’ head.
 Next, I’ve brought in an onionchronologist, who will reconstruct climate data by onion ring proxy. Now I know what you’re thinking, that an onion can only give you about 6 weeks worth of data at most, but not to worry, Tommy’s models will faithfully hind-cast thousands of years in the past, and forecast hundreds of years into the future.
 As part of the public relations angle, I’ve been watching “B-movie babes who were hot 30 years ago”, and making up my short list of candidates to handcuff themselves to the White House fence, along with yours truly.
 The simple logistics of the matter dictated that I purchase several cases of talking points, and I got the best available. Micro-honed and ready to imbed themselves into those lacking intellectual curiosity, they activate whenever the wearer is speaking. Glassy eyes and a little drooling are the only side effects which will go largely unnoticed in today’s political climate.
 Concurrent with that I also set out to procure some coal mine canaries for press releases. I had no idea they would be so difficult to find. Apparently the unemployment rate for these little guys is less than half a percent, and demand is going up, what with the UN group doubling down on their warming meme.
 On my way to the community center to write this, an ash blew off my expensive imported cigar and set my straw man alight in the front seat of my Prius. I was forced to pull over and leave him smoldering against a fire plug, muttering his last words “denying women their reproductive rights”…. I had little worry of pollution, since straw men are constructed of mostly hot air and lofty platitudes. When I replace him, I’m getting the new X-10 model, the same one the administration uses, because it’s completely invulnerable to media scrutiny.
 I realize this is not going to be an easy task to move to the front of the line with a new catastrophic narrative.  I shall have to battle acidic oceans, methane balls exploding, and heat mysteriously disappearing into the depths, but I still think I’m on fairly safe ground since Unobtanium, like dark matter and phantom heat, cannot be observed.
 As much as I’d like to stay and chat, I have an Esperanto class at the community center shortly.
Yours in his new career,
Luke Warmist

pochas
October 19, 2013 12:51 pm

Edohiguma says:
October 19, 2013 at 12:05 pm
“Heard today that Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to run for POTUS in 2016. He said he’s ready to start lobbying to change the Constitution”
GLORIOSKY!! Then we can elect idiots from the whole world!

Jesus Green
October 19, 2013 12:58 pm

Peer Review.
Not climate related but interesting. A biologist called Michael Eisen, at UC Berkeley and an Investigator of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute says in his own words:
“In 2011, after having read several really bad papers in the journal Science, I decided to explore just how slipshod their peer-review process is. I knew that their business depends on publishing “sexy” papers. So I created a manuscript that claimed something extraordinary – that I’d discovered a species of bacteria that uses arsenic in its DNA instead of phosphorus. But I made the science so egregiously bad that no competent peer reviewer would accept it. The approach was deeply flawed – there were poor or absent controls in every figure. I used ludicrously elaborate experiments where simple ones would have done. And I failed to include a simple, obvious experiment that would have definitively shown that arsenic was really in the bacteria’s DNA. I then submitted the paper to Science, punching up the impact the work would have on our understanding of extraterrestrials and the origins of life on Earth in the cover letter. And what do you know? They accepted it! ”
http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1439

October 19, 2013 12:58 pm

pochas says:
October 19, 2013 at 12:51 pm
You’ve already elected the World’s Most Famous Kenyan, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

geran
October 19, 2013 1:10 pm

Wow, I was going to try to be funny, but there is no way I can compete today!
I will have to try some sciency stuff–
If you have an “ideal” absorber the same distance from the Sun as the Earth, you can use Stefan-Boltzmann directly, with no “adjustments” other than albedo.
For example: S = (sigma)T^4
Use S = 1365 W/m^2, and albedo of 0.3 (“New” S now = 955.5 W/m^2)
Then T = 360K (87ºC, 188ºF)
Wait, maybe that is kinda funny….

Jon
October 19, 2013 1:15 pm

Use Google translator on this? It’s UNFCCC not conform and will be shortly be removed?
http://www.svalbardmuseum.no/nyindex.php?id=15&kategori=3

Jon
October 19, 2013 1:15 pm

Norwegian to english

Jesus Green
October 19, 2013 1:28 pm

BTW.
The wheels have definitely come off the CAGW band wagon. Dr. Mann has a picture of him with all four plus the spare at: http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/Mann/index.php

October 19, 2013 1:53 pm

Reviving the most robust and helpful philosophy of science, and related ideas in politics and economics. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=rafe+champion

DougS
October 19, 2013 1:55 pm

Good for you Anthony. It is a beautiful day down here in the SF Bay area. Wonderful Indian summer were having. Gonna fire up the old backhoe and do some work on the farm, best to you and your family.
Doug

October 19, 2013 1:57 pm

Jon says:
October 19, 2013 at 1:15 pm
Use Google translator on this? It’s UNFCCC not conform and will be shortly be removed?
No problem, after some 10+ trips to Scandinavia, mainly Norway, decided to learn Norwegian…
But interesting story anyway. Not only in Svalbard some plant debris from 1100 years ago – the warm Medieval Period – comes out from under the ice, but also from Svartisen (Norway mainland) and from under glaciers in Austria human artefacts are found that are 3000-6000 years old, proving that the glaciers were much shorter in these periods…
Mange hilsener fra Flandern/Belgia

CRS, DrPH
October 19, 2013 1:57 pm

I offer a thoroughly enjoyable article from the Chicago Tribune! The opening graphic is a hoot!
This article concludes:

Finally, it’s way past time to come to terms with a true climate crisis, one where political agenda-driven liars, statistical manipulators and demagogues are permitted to misrepresent facts without vociferous challenges from the science community they purport to represent. That’s a terribly costly man-made disaster that has absolutely no excuse.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-nsc-the-true-global-warming-crisis-is-the-fibs-20131015,0,791749.story?page=1

Jonathan Abbott
October 19, 2013 1:58 pm

There was a very interesting comment made on one of Bob Tisdale’s threads a few days ago, by Hunter (don’t know who you are, sorry):
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/10/14/will-their-failure-to-properly-simulate-multidecadal-variations-in-surface-temperatures-be-the-downfall-of-the-ipcc/#comment-1447452
The point made is that, just as early Christianity had to adapt away from an expectation of the imminent Second Coming of Jesus, so the Alarmists will surely adapt in order to survive. Perhaps this will prolong the agony of their influence beyond what many people, myself included, currently think.This lead to a sudden realisation of the importance of falsifiability in any belief structure. I have written more on this on my own blog:
http://jonathanabbott99.wordpress.com/2013/10/19/true-believers/

David L.
October 19, 2013 2:08 pm

Have fun spending all that Koch funding this weekend! /bigsarc!

Jonathan Abbott
October 19, 2013 2:10 pm

Jesus Green, that’s an excellent article on peer review. I’ve bookmarked it for future reference. Thanks.

Mark
October 19, 2013 2:11 pm

Changing tracks here just a little, I’ve asked this before but never had a convincing reply: What exactly is the human contribution to increased atmospheric CO2?
I’ve anywhere from 100% (unlikely) to as little as between 6% and 12%. Is there a supportable data based number?
Mark

Duke C.
October 19, 2013 2:54 pm

Tim Osborn has posted an engaging comment regarding CO2 forcing at Climate Audit. It’s surprising to see a charter member of the Hockey Team venture in to enemy territory. 🙂
http://climateaudit.org/2013/10/08/fixing-the-facts-2/#comment-443928

Bill Marsh
Editor
October 19, 2013 3:10 pm

Anthony, you should spend more time with your family, not less. As they say, “Nobody sits up on their death bed and says, “I wish I had spent more time at work.”

page488
October 19, 2013 3:20 pm

Luke Warmist – one of the best satires I’ve read in a long time. I loved it. Thanks!

October 19, 2013 3:21 pm

Mark says:
October 19, 2013 at 2:11 pm
What exactly is the human contribution to increased atmospheric CO2?
A few generations of skeptics have discussed that for several years up to today…
I have written a few contributions to the answer, which are here:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/05/why-the-co2-increase-is-man-made-part-1/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/20/engelbeen-on-why-he-thinks-the-co2-increase-is-man-made-part-2/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/09/16/engelbeen-on-why-he-thinks-the-co2-increase-is-man-made-part-3/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/09/24/engelbeen-on-why-he-thinks-the-co2-increase-is-man-made-part-4/
In my opinion some 95% is caused by humans, 5% by the temperature increase since about 1850.
But that was and is heavily contested by a lot of skeptics on this site, but supported by a lot of others and for once, by most in the scientific community, including Fred Singer, Lindzen and other skeptical scientists…

Luke Warmist
October 19, 2013 3:24 pm

Mark says:
October 19, 2013 at 2:11 pm
: “What exactly is the human contribution to increased atmospheric CO2?
I’ve anywhere from 100% (unlikely) to as little as between 6% and 12%. Is there a supportable data based number?”
The number I see quoted most often is in the 2-4 percent range, but sadly I can’t cite anybody/anything. This makes my observation anecdotal which is always highly suspect.
(……now I’m wondering what the real number is.)

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