Bill McKibben's excellent eco-hypocrisy

I’ve sometimes thought Bill McKibben was little more than a do as I say not as I do type fraud, especially since he flies so much. #greensgobyair . Seems I was right. Via Twitchy:

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Environmentalist Bill McKibben is the head of the anti-carbon group 350.org as well as a “notable member” of the “Plastic Pollution Coalition,” which seeks to make all cities “plastic free.”

McKibben has also said this:

“Some fights, like global warming, are necessarily hard. And some fights are no-brainers: let’s stop using plastic stuff we don’t need.”

Unless there’s no other way to get your groceries home from the store, apparently.

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Source:

[ https://twitter.com/scollinzz/status/386163293301116928 ]

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MarkG
October 5, 2013 6:24 pm

Coupled with the plastic drinks bottles, the odd beer bottle (thanks a lot for the broken glass) and empty fag packets, I have a very low opinion of the general driving public.
Oh, I saw plenty of empty fast food containers, beer cans, water bottles and other litter, most of it tossed away on city streets.
But no plastic bags. Which is what the Great Green Crusade wants to ban.
Why would anyone be driving along, throwing plastic bags out of their car? It’s nonsensical to anyone other than a small-minded Greenist.

philincalifornia
October 5, 2013 7:28 pm

If I forget to take my planet-saver bag into the store (about 8 out of 10 times), I just get a couple of the veggie bags and use those.
So FU** YOU Bill
… but I do recycle them too, when possible.

Phil
October 5, 2013 7:47 pm

Assessment of the Potential for Cross Contamination of Food Products by Reusable Shopping Bags
Charles P. Gerba, David Williams and Ryan G. Sinclair
Abstract

Most foodborne illnesses are believed to originate in the home. Reuse of bags creates an opportunity for cross contamination of foods. The purpose of this study was to assess the potential for cross contamination of food products from reusable bags used to carry groceries. Reusable bags were collected at random from consumers as they entered grocery stores in California and Arizona. In interviews it was found that reusable bags are seldom if ever washed and often used for multiple purposes. Large numbers of bacteria were found in almost all bags and coliform bacteria in half. Escherichia coli were identified in 12% of the bags and a wide range of enteric bacteria, including several opportunistic pathogens. When meat juices were added to bags and stored in the trunks of cars for two hours the number of bacteria increased 10-fold indicating the potential for bacterial growth in the bags. Hand or machine washing was found to reduce the bacteria in bags by >99.9%. These results indicate that reusable bags can play a significant role in the cross contamination of foods if not properly washed on a regular basis. It is recommended that the public needs to be educated about the proper care of reusable bags by printed instructions on the bags or through public service announcements.

Grocery Bag Bans and Foodborne Illness
Jonathan Klick
Joshua D. Wright
Abstract

Recently, many jurisdictions have implemented bans or imposed taxes upon plastic grocery bags on environmental grounds. Plastic bags are thought to endanger marine animals and add to litter. San Francisco County was the first major US jurisdiction to enact such a regulation, implementing a ban in 2007 and extending it to all retailers in 2012. There is evidence, however, that reusable grocery bags, a common substitute for plastic bags, contain potentially harmful bacteria, especially coliform bacteria such as E. coli. We examine deaths and emergency room admissions related to these bacteria in the wake of the San Francisco ban. We find that both deaths and ER visits spiked as soon as the ban went into effect. Relative to other counties, deaths in San Francisco increase by 50-100 percent, and ER visits increase by a comparable amount. Subsequent bans by other cities in California appear to be associated with similar effects.

rogerknights
October 5, 2013 9:35 pm

Grumpy says:
October 5, 2013 at 3:36 pm
MarkG 11.07am – I still live in Britain, about a mile and a half from a stop off on a major route. My opinion of the people who stop off to but a coffee and a burger and then chuck the rubbish out of the window because they can’t be bothered to take it home with them makes my blood boil as they are littering ‘my’ beautiful countryside. Coupled with the plastic drinks bottles, the odd beer bottle (thanks a lot for the broken glass) and empty fag packets, I have a very low opinion of the general driving public. Maybe if they had a plastic bag in the car they might be more inclined to take it home and bin it there, . . . .

Maybe the govt. should require carmakers to provide a built-in metal trash bucket with a shelf for grinding out lit cigarettes. And also ban glass bottles for beverages.

October 5, 2013 11:30 pm

This is awesome. Inspired me to post my first tweet. As I point out there, this sad sack’s own organization sells reusable 350.org cloth grocery bags. To add to the deliciousness, when I returned to this WUWT page what did I find? The banner ad across the top is for cafe press with the very same 350.org reusable bag featured in pole position! Classic. If he could have just brought himself to expand beyond his narrow, hypocritical alarmist boundaries and frequent WUWT, perhaps he would have been made aware of the products his .org offers and could have avoided this PR disaster. What a loser.

HammerTrick
October 6, 2013 12:46 am

I didn’t know a whole lot about common plastic materials like Poly Ethylene and Poly Propylene and the like till I started into the Automotive Plastic Injection Molding industry. Basically, all in a nutshell, if what the enviro-mental nuts were saying about plastic were true you’d be able to walk from New Yuck city to London on a fifty foot thick mat pf plastic waste.
By the bye I understand tha the mat of plastic waste in the Pacific Ocean the size of Texas and as deep as the Golden Gate Bridge and that you’re supposed to be able to see from space doesn’t even exist.
In the case of auto parts, we mix what are called UV inhibitors into the materials used to make parts so that the stuff doesn’t immediately start to break down in the presence of sunlight.
The latest land fill technology that I am aware of, you bury plastic with the right bacteria and properly ventilate the landfill to the intake manifold of a device called an Enerator or more commonly a “Thunder-Punkin” and you get electricity from methane gas.
The real enviro-mental agenda is to reduce the human population of planet earth. I think that the Green Peace nazis had it all figured out to half a billion of the “right” people.

October 6, 2013 2:01 am

But the plastic bags issue is one that is so important to the green cause because it’s so damned intrusive…
http://progcontra.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/carrier-bag-scepticism.html

Russ R.
October 6, 2013 7:16 am

Not that I care how the man bags his groceries, but if he’s gonna talk the talk, he oughta walk the walk.

October 6, 2013 7:27 am

I updated the screen shot by adding a caption. Cheers!

Alvin
October 6, 2013 10:01 am

Where are Bill’s hemp bags?

michael hart
October 6, 2013 10:46 am

The McKibben Diet: Carbon-free, but high in irony.

October 6, 2013 1:19 pm

michael hart says:
October 6, 2013 at 10:46 am
The McKibben Diet: Carbon-free, but high in irony.

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A “carbon-free diet”. I hope he likes salt!

Janice Moore
October 7, 2013 2:32 pm

Cute, McKibben, lol. And he’s so weighted down by now, it likely took him a week to slowly shuffle up and down the aisles, fill that cart, and push it out the door.
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Good points, Hammer. Data as in: observations from the real world. How refreshing.

Janice Moore
October 7, 2013 2:34 pm

McKibben?!! Sorry, Michael Hart. Laughing at your wit. Laughing at him.

Gail Combs
October 7, 2013 4:01 pm

Tiredoc says: October 5, 2013 at 9:27 am
The plastic bag crusade baffles me….
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It was in retaliation of Novacor out maneuvering BP and Royal Dutch Shell in the matters of Husky Oil and Polysar. CEO Blair was an upstart who stepped on some very royal toes so a month before the TV ads were to be broadcast announcing a deal between Novacor, Sweetheart Plastics and McDonalds on some truly innovative post consumer recycling in a plant specially designed to use the handicapped, a nationwide media blitz swept out of NH from a nobody….
You just can’t make these type of fairy tales up.
And yes I was there. My boss designed the plant.
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/nova-corporation-of-alberta-history/
http://www.triplepundit.com/2008/08/mcdonalds-and-greenwashing/
(It was actually a New Hampshire school teacher who ‘Started’ the campaign.)
I wrote on the subject more fully HERE

October 10, 2013 3:58 pm

Save the Trees? “Recycle your breadcrumbs! Save the Wheat!” (Both are crops).