Pat Michaels: High School Science Discredits The New York Times’ Latest Global Warming Whopper – Forbes
…More completely, that would be the consensus of scientists who built their careers on the global warming gravy plane and really don’t want to go back to coach.)
Gillis has taken over the Times’ global warming beat from the much more careful Andy Revkin, and he isn’t shy about pushing lurid warming stories. He’s not, because Gillis wants action, which, in its latest incarnation, would be a tax on everything we do that in some way is powered by fossil fuels. That would mean pretty much everything we do.
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North West Passage blocked with ice – yachts caught
‘The North West Passage seems to be reversing its recent warming trend and is threatening to end the dreams of dozens of adventurous sailors. A scattering of yachts trying to transit the legendary Passage are caught by the ice, which has become blocked at both ends and the season may be ended early.’ Source
http://www.sail-world.com/USA/North-West-Passage-blocked-with-ice%E2%80%94yachts-caught/113788
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2013 Northwest Passage CLOSED without Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker escorts for transit.
At least 22 yachts and other vessels are in the Arctic at the moment. Some who were less advanced have retreated and others have abandoned their vessels along the way. Still others are caught in the ice in an unfolding, unresolved drama.”
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Dr. Judith Curry: Overestimated global warming over the past 20 years
‘Recent observed global warming is significantly less than that simulated by climate models. This difference might be explained by some combination of errors in external forcing, model response and internal climate variability.’
‘Dare we hope for sanity from the AR5 in their assessment of detection and attribution? Based upon the ‘leaks’, I am not too hopeful.’
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MIT Climate Scientist Lindzen: Global warming is a ‘religion’
‘Global Warming has become a religion,’ writes Richard Lindzen. “A surprisingly large number of people seem to have concluded that all that gives meaning to their lives is the belief that they are saving the planet by paying attention to their carbon footprint.’
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Al Gore’s Global Warming Desperation
…Eight of those studies predate the thousand-year global extension of Mann’s “hockey stick” graph of 2003, meaning that he had to deliberately ignore a huge swath of scientific evidence, which, if honestly considered, would have caused him to throw it into the trash. Instead, he and others associated with the IPCC essentially pretended that no other meaningful contradictory information existed.
In other words, Mann’s “hockey stick” is a bunch of what Colonel Potter of the TV series M*A*S*H used to call “horse hockey.”
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“Huge canyon discovered under Greenland ice”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23866810
milodonharlani says:
Similar archaeological finds have been made in the wake of retreating Swiss glaciers, yet again demonstrating the cyclical nature of ice advance & retreat during the Holocene, as in prior interglacial phases:
http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/18/archaeological-finds-in-retreating-swiss-glacier/
More on the Greenland canyon
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Gail Combs says: Seems Greenpeace picked the WRONG PEOPLE to irritate.
Today’s Scores From The Arctic – Russian Coastguard 1 Greenpeace 0 or Green Watermelons met Real Reds and lose.
Greenpeace have just made a massive miscalculation of who to mess with in the Arctic, in this case Russia.
The story goes like this Greenpeace wanted to go the Northern Sea Route in Russia’s Arctic and protest, for that read, interrupt the search for oil and gas in the Arctic, the Arctic is reckoned to have 13% of the worlds undiscovered oil reserves and around 31% of the worlds undiscovered natural gas reserves.
Entry to the Northern Sea Route is by permit only, Greenpeace applied 3 times, and 3 times the Russians rejected the application, so the nobly motivated watermelons at Greenpeace decided they would ignore the lack of permit and go anyway….
A Greenpeace icebreaker that entered Russia’s Arctic without permission to protest offshore energy exploration is leaving after being threatened with gunfire by that country’s coast guard….
http://toryaardvark.com/2013/08/27/todays-scores-from-the-arctic-russian-coastguard-1-greenpeace-0/
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“A Greenpeace icebreaker that entered Russia’s Arctic without permission to protest offshore energy exploration”
If I were Russia I would shoot EU Commission Naval Forces as well.
We can conclude, then, that religion is a bad thing, which is used to control people via scary, fictitious stories. I can agree with that.
Judith Curry’s comments on AGU statement and Pielke’s written dissent.
rgb: I’m genuinely curious. What would you consider to be “doing something” that she isn’t already doing and that remains within the ethical boundaries that keep us from beating one another over the head with rocks when we disagree?
“What really irks me … is that I am a member of the AGU, and therefore this statement is implicitly speaking for me. ”
Stand back, folks. Judith is irked. ….
She and Pielke are in the right. The AGU has crossed the line into advocacy, it publishes as statement as from the AGU without informing its own members, much less asking for comment. Judith Curry is in the right, yet pulls her punches whilst in a gun fight. Has she written a word in objection to the AGU/EOS decision not to publish Pielke’s dissent? If so, it is much too hard to find.
From Yale Climate Forum (Bob Ward) on AGU statement
In other words, “irked or not, Judith is an outlier so she can be patronized as Pielke. The two of them are nothing more than speed bumps on the road of advocacy.”
@jim Cripwell 6:26 am. I totally agree.
What happened to the “Preview” button?
It wasn’t perfect, but it really helped find html tag errors.
REPLY: I had to give up WordPress Enterprise for a bit, it was causing other problems internally, not ready for prime-time. They are working on it, and I hope to be able to get the preview feature back. – Anthony
The Russians only threatend Greenpeace with gunfire?
Big mistake. They should have turned the ship red on the inside….
Jeff Alberts says:
August 30, 2013 at 7:47 am
“We can conclude, then, that religion is a bad thing, which is used to control people via scary, fictitious stories. I can agree with that.”
Non sequitor.
izen says: @ur momisugly August 30, 2013 at 5:39 am
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You forgot
1. The oil companies (and others like GE) are invested in “Green” energy
2. It is a boondoggle, a scam not a viable means of generating electricity. The companies are formed the money siphoned off and then they bankrupt. Al Gore and Maurice Strong perfected the ‘MODEL’ in 1995.
During the First Earth Day celebration in 1995 when Al Gore visited Fall River, Massachusetts he gave a speech praising Molten Metals Inc. The stock soared to $35/share. The stock price in part was based on Department of Energy funding for a research contract that was about to get cut in October of 1996. Strong, no fool he, bailed before the stock became worthless.
THAT is the REAL Business model for the 34 plus failed Green energy companies
The economists (if they are honest) call it The Broken Window Fallacy This economic model only moves money from one pocket (the tax payer and fools gambling on green stocks) to another (the Elite/business tycoons) and leave all of society poorer.
Too bad ‘Socialists’ (and Capitalists) are falling for this crap. The Elite don’t care what sheepskin they wear as long as it moves money and power into their pocket.
My only hope is they stop before they completely wreck the economies of the EU, USA, Australia and others but since they are moving on to raping India, Brazil, Africa and (trying to rape) China and Russia I wouldn’t bet on it.
Jimbo says:
August 30, 2013 at 6:12 am
That proves that CAGW is not a religion, as it has already been falsified.
To those who criticise Dr Judith Curry for not spearheading the activist campaign they want her to – I think it’s pretty presumptuous to try to conscript an independent scientist (and an autonomous human being) to fulfill your desires.
Dr Curry is not your cipher in the climate wars. It is entirely up to her what role, if any, she chooses to play. The fact that she is not the hard line activist that you want her to be does not mean that she lacks integrity and courage. I think that she has demonstrated plenty of both compared to the tens of thousands of scientists from whom we have not heard a peep of dissent. Why pick on her?
It is also worth noting that she is a very busy person. She is a university department head, and also runs a business and a blog. Those who say she is not doing enough are presumably on the hustings 24/7/365 themselves?
Steve from Rockwood says:
August 30, 2013 at 5:33 am
Standard internal or external load of Mi-26 Halo is 20,000 kg (44,000 #), ie without cutting back on fuel or stripping the helicopter down. But, as you note, capability in a high & hot regime (Afghanistan summer) is less than over the Arctic Ocean.
From Stephen Rasey on August 30, 2013 at 8:20 am:
I’ve been using CA Assistant for the Preview function. HTML and formatting errors show up well enough there. The one HTML error that isn’t noticeable is missing opening double-quote, which WordPress automatically converts to a link to the page you’re on (sadly Gail Combs makes that mistake often). But if you make your links with the CA Assistant linking tool, not a problem.
After using both Preview functions at once, I determined CA Assistant was better than the WordPress version as it more faithfully showed the spacing after posting, WPP didn’t do line spaces. Try CA Assistant.
Jimbo says:
“…And forgive us our emissions,
As we forgive those who emit against us, …”
Al Gore would never offer such a prayer. It would be more like:
And forgive us our emissions,
As we condemn the emissions of others,
These people are not in the forgiving business. But they do believe that condemning other’s emissions justifies an increase in their own emissions as they fly their jets around the world to do so.
arthurpeacock says:
August 30, 2013 at 11:37 am
Jimbo says:
August 30, 2013 at 6:12 am
You can’t falsify a religion.
That proves that CAGW is not a religion, as it has already been falsified.
Sorry, but just because you realize CAGW has been falsified does not mean members of the CAGW religion agree with you. Can you name any? The fact that they still cling to their CAGW religion and ignore all observations and evidence to the contrary proves Jimbo’s statement.
Louis says:
August 30, 2013 at 12:31 pm
Whether CAGW is a religion, is one thing. Whether warmists treat CAGW as if it were a religion, is quite another. You are confusing the two.
If I think that a mirage is an oasis, that doesn’t mean that it is an oasis. It means that my perception is wrong. I repeat, CAGW has been falsified. Therefore it is not a religion. And warmists are wrong in treating it as one.
The cold kills the alpacas. Thus the people loose the alpaca “wool” for making the warm clothing to withstand the cold, and a source of meat thus energy needed to make the body warmth, that is now being lost faster with the lack of warm clothing.
Thus less humans are supportable, thus less alpaca will be raised, so less humans are supportable, and if there’s another cold-induced mass slaughter of alpaca next year… It’s the Peruvian Cold Death Spiral!
(Side note: It’s official, the “sky dragon slayer” anti-GHE debate has gone way too far. I went to type “warm clothing” and thought “Wait, I can’t write the clothing is warm since what it does is slow the rate of heat loss, it doesn’t provide warmth…”)
izen:
In your post at August 30, 2013 at 5:39 am you write
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/30/the-wuwt-hot-sheet-for-friday-august-30th-2013/#comment-1403650
Izen, I know you want to sustain your reputation for stupid comments, but that is daft even by your standards.
Fossil fuels will continue to be used because there is nothing except nuclear power which can replace their use by a measurable amount. So, governments will continue to obtain taxation revenue from them.
And governments are not acting to reduce the use of fossil fuels. Indeed, some are promoting intermittent energy sources (e.g. wind and solar) which increase fossil fuel use.
Governments are promoting taxation from e.g. ‘Cap and Trade’ and ‘Carbon Markets’ in addition to the taxation revenue from fossil fuels.
Richard
arthurpeacock:
Your post at August 30, 2013 at 12:55 pm
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/30/the-wuwt-hot-sheet-for-friday-august-30th-2013/#comment-1404034
says
Sorry, but your argument defeats itself.
If “CAGW has been falsified” then continued belief in it can only be superstition or religious faith.
Superstition is a belief – usually based on fear – which has no tenets so no philosophical structure.
Religion is a set of beliefs based on accepted tenets and has a coherent philosophical structure.
The cult of AGW has a coherent belief system based on a set of tenets and has organised structure including training, communication and hierarchy. Thus, it is a religion and not a superstition.
Richard
Last night I came across a graph from SIDC that shows the international sunspot number in a monthly format from 1950 to the present. It showed the trend in sunspot numbers with either the north hemisphere leading the south, or the south hemisphere leading the north. From slightly before 1950 up until 1972 the north predominates. Then from 1972 till 1976/77 the south plays a strong role, ‘Is this what starts the warming? After 1980 and all the way till 2008, the south predominates in the ssn count. Since 2008 the north is now back on top. The ‘north’ Sun from 1950 till the late 70s led the Earth through a slight cooling period. Then the ‘south’ Sun has a strong show between 1972 through 1974. The last stretch of ‘south’ Sun,1977/78 till 2008, led the Earth through a noticeable warming. Now we are back into a ‘north’ Sun and the Earth has seen a slight cooling since 2006/07. So, why is it that the IPCC doesn’t consider the Sun as having a greater affect.
Here is a link to the graph…http://sidc.oma.be/sunspot-index-graphics/wnosuf.php
Funny. 🙂
Jim Cripwell says:
August 30, 2013 at 7:36 am
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I had to read that post about the Polar Bound several times, myself. At first glance it appears that he somehow made it through the McClure Strait. It took a few looks to see that those photos are from 2012, when he made a successful transit, his fifth. He is now at Cambridge bay with most of the other ships. At least one left Cambridge Bay yesterday to see if they can find an opening at Cape Bathurst by the time they arrive around Sunday/Monday. This could likely be the last chance to make the passage in one shot. The forecast for that area drops to 30F after Tuesday/Wednesday. The region is warming up for four more days as of today, from the continent into the edge of the Arctic sea lane that the boats need to traverse.
Up north, fools and their yachts are soon sunk. As for the fools on jetskis and rowboats…
richardscourtney says:
August 30, 2013 at 1:59 pm
That is a correct statement about religion. It is not a definition of religion. A definition of religion would have to include the fact that it deals with issues (such as meaning and purpose) which lie outside the realm of scientific discourse. CAGW lies within the realm of scientific discourse; therefore it is not a religion, but an ideology. Like Marxism, it is a pseudoscience which apes religion. It has many of the features of religion, and is therefore useful as a ‘straw man’ for people who want to discredit religion without understanding what it actually is.
Jimbo says:
August 30, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Thanks! Half joking and whole in earnest, as they say.
Ah, so everyone here who denigrates CAGW as a religion are also practicing non-sequitur. They certainly aren’t praising either CAGW or religion when they do that. Wouldn’t you agree?
Especially if those tenets have no basis in reality.
Adding my 2 cents to what has already been argued towards the conclusion that adherents to CO2CAGW are practicing a Religion:
In calling skeptics “deniers”, adherents to the Formalized CO2CAGW Belief System have thereby defined themselves as “Believers” in that belief system. They also display a belief in a return to a “Garden of Eden”, or a ‘progression’ to a “Heaven on Earth”, but essentially Other-Worldly Condition.
Their own Dogmatic Postulation of CO2CAGW “tenets”, which in effect constitute an instant litmus test for defining Believers as against “deniers”, and their incessant repetition of statements which publicly preach a Liturgy involving a coming Apocalypse, both contribute to bringing their Ideology very close to constituting at least some kind of Religion.
And, what used to be a necessary characteristic defining a Religion and its most critical weakness, at least according to pre-postmodern Philosophers: the Believers also lay claim to having a Special “Way of Knowing”, different from the way in which the rest of us establish what is “known”. [But as usual, they still insist upon using the same word for it.] It might or might not involve “Faith” because some advocates of the Believers’ revered Post Normal Science even further define themselves as essentially being able to “Speak Directly With God” in order to deliver unto all of us the “Given Truth”.