Neutral advice from the IPCC?
By Richard Ingham (AFP) – 3 hours ago
PARIS — A leaden cloak of responsibility lies on the shoulders of UN scientists as they put the final touches to the first volume of a massive report that will give the world the most detailed picture yet of climate change.
Due to be unveiled in Stockholm on September 27, the document will be scrutinised word by word by green groups, fossil-fuel lobbies and governments to see if it will yank climate change out of prolonged political limbo.
The report will kick off the fifth assessment by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), an expert body set up in 1988 to provide neutral advice on global warming and its impacts. http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hHmcL4DZjT-PZWhEHO3VDb5gjsrA?docId=CNG.db54bf0fa84dd93ad7cf71578fe1dcef.681
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Regarding your “Trenberth’s IPCC claim” post, you may like to mention Green & Armstrong (2007) (available here) in which we addressed Trenberth’s IPCC-don’t-forecast line in some detail. As far as I’m aware, our subsequent paper (Green, Armstrong, & Soon 2009, here) provides the *only* forecast of global mean temperatures over the 21st Century. That is, we state that we are making a forecast (not a scenario or projection), the forecast is stated clearly (annual average temperatures will be within 0.5 C of the 2008 figure), and is unconditional (no matter what happens to CO2 emissions, etc). Unlike Trenberth et al., who try to have it both ways by calling for “action” but aren’t prepared to say they are making forecasts, we stand by our forecast and the clear implication that government climate policies are neither needed nor desirable.
Cheers, Dr Kesten C Green
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Park Service personnel recently discovered evidence of a buried forest dating back to at least 1170 AD high in the Forelands near the current glacier’s edge…Exit Glacier advanced from the Harding Icefield during the Little Ice Age, burying this existing forest and advancing to a maximum marked by the terminal moraine dated to 1815…
http://www.nps.gov/kefj/naturescience/upload/The%20Retreat%20of%20Exit%20Glacier.pdf
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It’s baaaaaaack….
Eastern US water supplies threatened by a legacy of acid rain
Noted ecologist Gene Likens, founding director of the Cary Institute of Ecosystem Studies and a co-discoverer of acid rain, was among the study’s authors. The extent of alkalinity change in streams and rivers exceeded his expectations: “This is another example of the widespread impact humans are having on natural systems. Policymakers and the public think that the acid rain problem has gone away, but it has not.”
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-08/cioe-euw082613.php
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Dr. Roy Spencer continues his greenhouse experiments:
In Part I of this series, I mentioned how Wood’s (1909) “greenhouse box” experiment, which he claimed suggested that a real greenhouse did not operate through “trapping” of infrared radiation, was probably not described well enough to conclude anything of substance. I provided Wood’s original published “Note”, which was only a few paragraphs, and in which he admitted that he covered the issue in only cursory detail.
Wood’s experiment was not described well enough to replicate. We have no idea how much sunlight was passed through his plate of rock salt-covered box versus the glass-covered box. We also don’t know exactly how he placed another glass window over the rock salt window, which if it was very close at all, invalidated the whole experiment.
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New witch hunt: “Environmental Campaign Suggests Naming Vicious Storms After Climate-Change Deniers”
Environmental Campaign Suggests Naming Vicious Storms After Climate-Change Deniers
New York agency Barton F. Graf has turned its roguish attention to the issue of climate change, and is helping 350 Action, a climate change activist group, with the amusing video below. According to the YouTube description: “Since 1954, the World Meteorological Organization has been naming extreme storms after people. But we propose a new naming system. One that names extreme storms caused by climate change, after the policy makers who deny climate change and obstruct climate policy. If you agree, sign the petition at climatenamechange.org.” The snarky tone preaches to the choir, but it’s hard to resist lines like, “If you value your life, please seek shelter from Michele Bachmann.”
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Satellite temps flat for 200 months now
by Werner Brozek
If the global warming era started in June 1988 with Jim Hansen’s drama-queen congressional testimony, then atmospheric temps have been flat 67% of the time since.
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Are these researchers serious? “Over the past 25 to 60 years, two-thirds (rivers) have become significantly more alkaline.” and, “”Acid rain has led to increased outputs of alkalinity from watersheds and contributed to long-term, increasing trends in our rivers…”
So now Acid content of rain causes the pH of runoff to go up? According to these researchers Yes!
I think they must have walked out during their first lecture in freshman Inorganic Chemistry, and never returned. They are fundamentally lacking in their understanding of acid base chemistry.
Personally, I think “Typhoon Willis” sounds like a most menacing storm (plus you’ve got the legendary fighter jet to consider).
Also– ~Dr. Spencer–Perhaps it’s time to pull out that unforgettable Starbucks ad (fwd to 0:52 in vid): http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DOw6lg2tAqsY
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Especially if you spelled the names properly.
What exactly is that “massive” report being written on. Oh – very definately “green” paper. How many revisions will be done to it so that each and every word is exactly right. Then more “green” paper to be used. And even it its “recycled” paper, does that mean that no energy was used to produce stuff to be written upon? Are all the delegates tele-conferencing into the conference? Or are they rowing to Stockholm? The constant hypocrisy is numbing.
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Dissolve a spoonful of baking soda in a glass of water.
You’ve just “dramatically” increased its alkalinity without increasing its hardness.
There’s a lot these guys aren’t saying. Perhaps they are just trying to be “most alarming”.
I can hear The Weather Channel now:
“The following report on Snowstorm Willis is brought to by the good folks at wattsupwiththat.com.”
Maybe they should sell naming rights for storms like they do for sports stadiums? The proceeds could go to paying back the taxpayers for man-made disasters like Solyndra or setting up aviaries for all those poor little orphaned birds near wind turbines.
@Hurricane Roy
Too late. Been there , done that. TS Roy did considerable damage to Kwajalien Island when I was there in 1987
I remember when “acid rain” was the eco-bete-noir of the 1970s and 80s. I also remember there was a very expensive and conclusive study funded by Congress to get to the bottom of the problem. Turned out there was no problem with the rain (fingers were pointing toward sulfur dioxide emissions from coal-burning powerplants causing sulfurous acid formation). There was only rain runoff from acidic coniferous forest duff. (Are coniferous trees acidic? My lawn seems to think so.) Nobody recommended wiping out all coniferous trees. As a result, the subject has been dead for nearly 30 years. Now, those who don’t remember (and couldn’t care less) are raising the same false alarm.
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That jogged my memory. I remember when acid rain was competing with the ozone “hole” as the leading contender as the latest way Man was going upset Ma’ Nature.
One of the proposed treatments to offset the effects was to add alkalinity in the form of waste lime sludge to effected streams.
Perhaps the forest from before 1170 emerging from the Forelands near the current Exit glacier’s edge should be named Mann’s Forest; after the man that seems to deny the medieval warm period..
WIll the IPCC paint themselves into a corner with no exit should cooling occur ?
Or will they carefully word for themselves an exit strategy within the no doubt voluminous tome.
Or are they basically too stupid.
Oh just go with it. We’ll see if in the end we can get all hurricanes categorized properly – in Watts, of course.