The WUWT Hot Sheet, August 5th 2013

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Warning Signs: Hot Lies Disputed by Cold Facts

I have always found a stark contrast in the way the forecasts of meteorologists on television and radio are limited in accuracy to about a week and beyond that become more speculative while the claims about global warming are always stated in decades. For example, the polar ice caps were supposed to have all melted by now.

The daily forecasts are formulated based on sophisticated meteorological satellites. The global warming claims are all based on computer models, not empirical observation and data.

The time is overdue for the American Meteorological Society to abandon any role in advancing a hoax that Mother Nature herself has exposed.

http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com/2013/08/hot-lies-disputed-by-cold-facts.html

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More Than Two Thirds Of The US Below Normal Temperature In 2013

ScreenHunter_239 Aug. 05 09.04

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Will global warming lead to more war? It’s not that simple.

“…the 2000s were the warmest decade on record, but they also managed to be “the least conflict-ridden decade since the 1970s.”

So clearly there are other things at work here”

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Growing Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Breaking All Records

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Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Breaking All Records

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From Nature Climate Change

UCSB study finds climate change is causing modifications to marine life behavior

Oceans cover 71 percent of the Earth’s surface, yet our knowledge of the impact of climate change on marine habitats is a mere drop in the proverbial ocean compared to terrestrial systems. An international team of scientists set out to change that by conducting a global meta-analysis of climate change impacts on marine systems.

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Mann whines about a letter to the editor, then pushes his book:

Climate change letter was personal attack

Editor, Times-Dispatch:

Charlie Battig did a grave disservice to your readers by spreading falsehoods about me personally and about climate science in general in his recent letter, “McAuliffe sways left and right on coal.” Battig parroted discredited denialist talking points, e.g., “the globe hasn’t warmed over the past 16 years” (the past decade, in fact, was the warmest recorded).

It is precisely these sorts of attacks by climate-change deniers that led me to write my recent book, “The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars,” where I discuss my experiences as a reluctant figure in the climate-change debate.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor-for-august/article_833393bb-0d7e-5389-b90d-9edb451c2ddd.html

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Warmist Retreat: Water shortage alarm from Himalayan melt called off

E&E reports:

One of the big unknowns of climate change predictions — and one that has led to considerable contention — lies in knowing the future of water runoff from the Himalayas. The snow- and ice-rich region supplies water for billions of people in Asia and is sometimes referred to as the Earth’s “Third Pole.”

For years, scientists struggled to understand how precipitation will change in these mountains (ClimateWire, Oct. 24, 2011). They have also had difficulty determining how much glacier melt from the mountains contributes to water supply.

Scientists climbing up the ice cliffs of the debris-covered tongue of the Lirung Glacier in the Himalayas. Photo courtesy of Evan Miles.

A study out yesterday in Nature Geoscience by Walter Immerzeel, a physical geographer at Utrecht University, suggests that, in at least two major Himalayan watersheds, river flows and runoff should rise until 2100.

More: http://www.eenews.net/stories/1059985593

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policycritic
August 5, 2013 9:52 pm

The E&E report is behind a paywall.
REPLY: not anymore, refresh for new link – Anthony

CodeTech
August 5, 2013 10:26 pm

Mann:

Battig parroted discredited denialist talking points, e.g., “the globe hasn’t warmed over the past 16 years” (the past decade, in fact, was the warmest recorded).

Is anyone really that dim?
Warming is not the same as warm.

August 5, 2013 10:39 pm

Michael Mann, Distinguished Charlatan…

Luther Wu
August 5, 2013 10:43 pm

CodeTech says:
August 5, 2013 at 10:26 pm
Mann:
Battig parroted discredited denialist talking points, e.g., “the globe hasn’t warmed over the past 16 years” (the past decade, in fact, was the warmest recorded).
Is anyone really that dim?
Warming is not the same as warm.
______________________
Yes.
You see exactly the same talking point repeated in every lefty media outlet on the planet.

TomC
August 5, 2013 10:46 pm

Likely requires a post of its own but the American Geophysical Union has yet again reaffirmed their statement on climate change. Being that it was only 18 months since their last reaffirmation of their statement on climate change it appears they’re simply trying to make headlines to keep some articles on climate change in the news media.

August 5, 2013 10:56 pm

Like most shonky salesmen Mann never wastes a chance to plug his latest work of fact/fiction to a wait world audience.

Lew Skannen
August 5, 2013 10:57 pm

“Warming is not the same as warm.”
Mann struggles with XL graphs. I doubt he understands derivatives.

Scott
August 5, 2013 11:05 pm

warmest decade only stands up when you adjust the past down and increase the present. I would love to see an update on the adjustments only !!

Mike Abbott
August 5, 2013 11:08 pm

Re: “Growing Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Breaking All Records”
Somebody had better tell that to the LiveScience reporter who wrote this incredibly misleading feature article for Yahoo! Weather:
As Antarctic Sea Ice Melts, Seaweed Smothers Seafloor
http://weather.yahoo.com/antarctic-sea-ice-melts-seaweed-smothers-seafloor-172358149.html

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
August 5, 2013 11:13 pm

TomC said on August 5, 2013 at 10:46 pm:

Likely requires a post of its own but the American Geophysical Union has yet again reaffirmed their statement on climate change.

*ahem*
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/05/pielkes-response-to-agu-statement-on-climate-change/

Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)
August 5, 2013 11:25 pm

There are times when I wonder if the “distinguished” Professor Michael E. Mann has ever had an original (or even semi-original) “thought” since he “created” [h/t Joelle Gergis] his infamous hockey-stick. An item cited today offers a case in point:

Mann whines about a letter to the editor, then pushes his book:
Climate change letter was personal attack
Editor, Times-Dispatch:
Charlie Battig did a grave disservice to your readers […]

Using the search engine of your choice, check the results when your criteria include:
“grave disservice to your readers” + “Michael E. Mann”
I’m sure you will be as *shocked* as I was to find how many times this “distinguished” professor appears to have committed what in some circles might be called “self-plagiarism”, but what in other (more down to earth) circles is known as the fallacy of belief in one’s own infallible authority 😉

Admin
August 5, 2013 11:35 pm

Hilarious – the Mann whine is next to a discussion of the problems of a McDonalds hamburger flipper, who wanted more money without taking on more responsibility.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor-for-august/article_833393bb-0d7e-5389-b90d-9edb451c2ddd.html

JJ
August 5, 2013 11:37 pm

CodeTech says:
Is anyone really that dim?

You’re confusing dim with dishonest. Mann understands the lies he tells.

dp
August 5, 2013 11:46 pm

Warming and warm – it’s high school science:
Student: It hasn’t warmed in the last 16 days – the heat wave has paused!
Climate hysteria instructor: But July has been the hottest month this year!!
Student: Did you mean to tweet that on #StupidThingsPeopleSay?

jimmi_the_dalek
August 6, 2013 12:28 am

“The daily forecasts are formulated based on sophisticated meteorological satellites. The global warming claims are all based on computer models, not empirical observation and data.”
I am surprised Anthony let that past. The weather forecasts do use satellites, and ground weather stations for data, but that data is then fed into – yes a computer model – to make the prediction. The main difference is that the starting data for a weather forecast is a lot more clearly defined.

David
August 6, 2013 12:39 am

Battig parroted discredited denialist talking points, e.g., “the globe hasn’t warmed over the past 16 years” (the past decade, in fact, was the warmest recorded).
Discredited? Really? Do you mean the documented fact admitted by the IPCC that temperatures have plateaued in the past 16 years?
Of course any point in a plateau is going to be the highest. This guy is a joke.

August 6, 2013 12:52 am

Awe Anthony. You missed this one. Following on the announcement in your inaugural HotSheet ” JoNova gets press …”
JoNova now gets air time …
Sunday on
“Michael McLaren speaks with Joanne Nova, author of The Skeptic’s Handbook, who speaks about the stupidity of aligning ourselves with Europe’s ETS.
Listen
http://www.2gb.com/article/ets-more-black-market-green-economy#
or
Download
http://webstore.2gb.com/audio/overnight-with-michael-mclaren/201308/04-ets%E2%80%93more-black-market-than-gree.mp3

(From :-
http://joannenova.com.au/2013/08/jo-nova-talks-on-2gb-about-carbon-credits-and-the-forced-market-that-is-called-free/#comment-1304627 )

Ian_UK
August 6, 2013 12:56 am

Anthony – is this a pea/thimble moment (TM Steve McIntyre)? You didn’t tell the full story:
“Strong increases in water demand are projected in the Indus as the food production needs to grow to feed the quickly rising population,” Immerzeel said. “An increased water availability from the mountains may help to sustain this growing demand.”
On the other hand, Trent University’s Cogley noted, this finding, which will be welcome news to those in the region, could have a downside.
“[There is] the risk that people, and particularly planners, will relax when in truth there is no cause for complacency,” he said.
Immerzeel agreed, highlighting that climate change could still affect the region’s water resources in many other ways.
Naughty!

Dr Burns
August 6, 2013 1:18 am

Off topic but can anyone help point me to an article that covers the entire hockey stick saga, including the upside down Tiljander, post 60’s hide the decline, single tree Yamal, Wegman and the recent court cases ?

Alan the Brit
August 6, 2013 2:05 am

The daily forecasts are formulated based on sophisticated meteorological satellites.
That ghastly word again!!! Sophistigated:Pocket OED 1925, to spoil the simplicity or purity or naturalness of, to adulterate, to corrupt or tamper with!!!!!
Professor Michael Mann, a “reluctant figure in the climate debate”? Are you serious, are you kidding????? I have never known a more enthusiastic indulger than he!

Alan the Brit
August 6, 2013 2:06 am

Pl forgive spelling mistake, I must have eaten a laboratory grown burger or something! 😉

johanna
August 6, 2013 2:20 am

Dr Burns:
You cannot do better than to cough up a few shekels for Andrew Montford’s “The Hockey Stick Illusion”, available through the usual channels, or via the Bishop Hill blog. It is written in clear and unpretentious style and you don’t need to be a scientist to follow the story – although there are plenty of references if you want to dig deeper.
Back to the head post:
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From Nature Climate Change
UCSB study finds climate change is causing modifications to marine life behavior
Oceans cover 71 percent of the Earth’s surface, yet our knowledge of the impact of climate change on marine habitats is a mere drop in the proverbial ocean compared to terrestrial systems. An international team of scientists set out to change that by conducting a global meta-analysis of climate change impacts on marine systems.
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A “global meta-analysis” just means dredging up and recycling all the alarmist claims of the last however long about how the oceans are acidifying and dissolving things, the Great Barrier Reef is dying before our eyes and all the other unsupported nonsense that has been spewed out in support of CAGW in recent memory. It just breathes new life into the corpses of utterly discredited research.
It’s the Undead being called back into action. Will no-one drive a stake into their hearts?

August 6, 2013 2:29 am

Warm and Warming: The Lift metaphor
(Or Elevator for those over there in the US)
A climatologist goes into ta building and sees a lift (elevator).
He gets in and presses a button.
He is a real physicist so he presses the button at the bottom and nothing happens – the model works.
He is a real physicist so he then presses the button marked 1 and the lift rises – the model works.
He is a real physicist so he presses the highest bottom he can see and the lift rises – the model works.
But the lift keeps rising –oh dear.
And still the lift rises – oh dear, oh dear.
The model says that at some point the lift will hit the roof and he will be crushed, what to do?
Suddenly the door opens and an observation can be made – he is very high up, just under the roof!
He walks down the corridor and he is still in peril – just under the roof!
He walks into an office to look out the window, because he is a real physicist who wants to make measurements.
And he is still in peril – just under the roof!
But, look, the climatologist can save us all. “Follow me” he cries as he sees a place that is not just under the roof.
And he jumps out of the window.

AndyG55
August 6, 2013 3:24 am

When you climb a NATURAL HILL, you are at the top for a while..
Then you come back down again.

DirkH
August 6, 2013 3:38 am

CodeTech says:
August 5, 2013 at 10:26 pm
“Mann:
Battig parroted discredited denialist talking points, e.g., “the globe hasn’t warmed over the past 16 years” (the past decade, in fact, was the warmest recorded).
Is anyone really that dim?”
When you want to stabilize your rule over a territory, dumb down the population systematically with a public school system and constant spreading of lies.
If the lies are inconsistent all the better; people will feel their head hurt and blame it on the fact that they’re stupid. Tell them often that they ARE stupid.
Destroy all ambition. Insult them. Call them climate deniers. Call them other names when they disagree with you and smear them.
You’ll get an obedient silent public that pays for your lavish lifestyle and even buys your books.

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