Open Thread Weekend

jmitchell;
The difference between water and air is that water is about 1000 times better at absorbing heat.
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Good to know. Now the mass of the oceans is about 1400 times that of the atmosphere, so accordingly, it will take 1,400,000 times as much energy to raise the temperature of the earth by one degree than previously thought. Good on ya for explaining the physics to us.

have a good time in week-end
is anybody know where are data of convoyor belt activity as described here ?http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/02mar_spotlesssun/

“assumptions going into them are inadequate or invalid.”
second last word should be ‘and’.

The UK is currently enjoying barbecue summer temperatures at last. It was correctly predicted by the useless Met Office recently who said that the UK should expect horrible summers. The Met Office are completely and utterly useless. Yet the British Government sees fit to spend tens of millions of Pounds on this crap outfit. What a joke.

The Guardian – Wednesday 19 June 2013 – Leo Hickman
Met Office meeting: UK’s spell of awful summers is set to continue
Forecast that Britain could be in middle of 10-20 year ‘cycle’ of wet summers delivered following gathering at Met Office
Don’t worry, summer is on its way – but you might have to wait until 2023.
As the prospect of another gloomy Glastonbury and wet Wimbledon looms, leading climate scientists have warned that the UK could be set for a further five to 10 years of washout summers.

Repeated at Huffington Post
Haaaaaa, haaaaaa, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

jai mitchell July 12 2:30 pm
Let me grant you your premises.
1) The missing heat that the “climate models” predict, which should be raising the surface temperature of the earth, is actually being absorbed by the deep oceans (mechanism unstated but somehow it happens real real quick — which is an impossibility!).
2)And the deep oceans have a huge huge huge capacity to absorb that heat. ( Point of fact — the missing heat that the climate models predict would be a totally trivial amount compared to the amount of heat needed to make any measurable change in deep ocean temperature. Even if the deep oceans are absorbing that heat — for all practical purposes nothing is changing down there.)
From the above we can draw the obvious conclusion —
A change that is no change = climate change
So according to you climate change is actually no change at all. A feedback mechanism exists that keeps the surface temperature of the earth stable. So all the doom and gloom predictions of the last thirty years were nothing but so much “hot air” that your “oceans of wisdom” have absorbed and nullified.
You do realize that is what you have just told us, right?
This is all about Trenberth’s Kraken — the monster in the deep that eats all heat — and shits out — nothing.
Try to think, man.
Eugene WR Gallun

jai mitchell says:
July 12, 2013 at 4:07 pm
“http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/FairPlanFig1c.gif”
Do you also have that from an organisation that is not funded by George Soros?

Office of the Inspector General semiannual report 2007
http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2009/oig0902/oig0902_4.pdf

An OIG investigation into an allegation that a former professor at a Colorado university submitted a proposal to NSF that overlapped with an undisclosed proposal from an external non-profit research company founded by the subject, resulted in a recommendation of debarment. The university and our office both conducted investigations into improper award management and conflicts of interests. NSF had concurrent awards to the subject at the university and the first company, but more recently only to the company.
Our investigation revealed that the subject, consistently and over a period of many years, violated or disregarded various federal and NSF award administration requirements, violated university policies related to conflicts and outside compensation, and repeatedly misled both NSF and the university as to material facts about his outside companies and other matters relating to NSF awards.
After many years of operation of the first company, the subject created a second, for-profit company that acted as a subcontractor to the first company. The subject was the sole owner and employee of the second company, which existed solely to receive grant funds from the first company and pay them to the subject as salary. The subject failed to notify NSF of the subcontracting relationship with the second company, and improperly failed to limit indirect charges for the subcontract costs to the first to $25,000 as required.
The university repeatedly asked the subject to disclose all outside financial interests, and he repeatedly withheld information about the funds he received from his companies; when the university learned the truth, it severely restricted his access to its research facilities. The professor then resigned from his tenured faculty position.
When we asked him to supply supporting documentation for the salary payments, the subject provided timesheets reflecting highly implausible work hours — for example, the subject claimed effort averaging nearly 14 hours a day for 98 continuous days between May and August 2002 (including weekends and holidays), and in other instances claimed to have devoted as much as 21 hours per day to the project. We recommended that NSF debar the subject for five years, and NSF’s decision is pending.

jmitchell;
actually the earth’s atmsphere is supposed to weigh 5.2 X 10^18 Kg and the earth’s oceans only weigh about 1.4 X 10^21 Kg which is only about 269 times heavier.
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OK, so let’s use YOUR numbers. That leaves us at 269 x 1000 = 269,000 times as much mass. Then adjust for specific heat:
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-specific-heat-capacity-d_705.html
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/water-thermal-properties-d_162.html
Call it roughly 4.2 x 269,000 = 1,130,000 times as much energy to raise the temperature by one degree.