Proud moment for warmists: President of real Flat Earth Society believes in the global warming hoax

Obama might do well to research more before he makes snide remarks.

President Obama angrily blasted climate change skeptics during his energy policy speech Tuesday at Georgetown University, saying he lacked “patience for anyone who denies that this problem is real.”

“We don’t have time for a meeting of the flat-Earth society,” Obama said. “Sticking your head in the sand might make you feel safer, but it’s not going to protect you from the coming storm.”

Actually, even the Flat Earth Society believes in climate change:

As it turns out, there is a real Flat Earth Society and its president thinks that anthropogenic climate change is real. In an email to Salon, president Daniel Shenton said that while he “can’t speak for the Society as a whole regarding climate change,” he personally thinks the evidence suggests fossil fuel usage is contributing to global warming.

“I accept that climate change is a process which has been ongoing since beginning of detectable history, but there seems to be a definite correlation between the recent increase in world-wide temperatures and man’s entry into the industrial age,” he said. “If it’s a coincidence, it’s quite a remarkable one. We may have experienced a temperature increase even without our use of fossil fuels since the Industrial Revolution, but I doubt it would be as dramatic as what we’re seeing now.”

Story here: http://www.salon.com/2013/06/25/flat_earth_society_believes_in_climate_change/

Thanks to Tom Nelson

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Mark Hladik
June 27, 2013 6:54 am

It seems contradictory that ‘flat-earthers’ believe in “global” warming. Wouldn’t they have to believe in “flat-earth” warming? Wouldn’t their belief be classified as ‘anthropogenic flat-earth warming’, or “AFEW”?

Owen in GA
June 27, 2013 7:05 am

DirkH,
I should use sarc tags on the use part, but the existence of chemical weapons in Syria, and the mobilization of the chemical weapons storage facilities seem to support their eventual use – whether definitive proof other than hearsay in the (obviously biased) refuge communities can be found or not. The reports of the weapons convoys were also quite credible. Of course the whole WMD argument is a red herring since the invasion of Iraq was base on a number of criteria including that one, but most importantly the willful breaking of the terms of the ceasefire agreement which ended the liberation of Kuwait hostilities. Traditionally, breaking a ceasefire agreement (particularly when no peace treaty is subsequently signed) leads to a resumption of hostilities.
I don’t know that there is a PSYOP going on, but your misuse of that term seems to indicate no experience with that form of military operation. What you want is PROPAGANDA Campaign, which is a tool of politicians. In psychological warfare operations, the first rule is to never tell a lie. The goal is to inform people of information relevant to your position in order to encourage a certain decision making on the targeted population. If one is caught in a lie in the PSYOP arena, ones effectiveness falls off the realm of usefulness and can not be attempted again.

Pamela Gray
June 27, 2013 7:52 am

The president of the flat earth society isn’t exactly my kind of serious quotable talking head about science.

DirkH
June 27, 2013 9:02 am

Owen in GA says:
June 27, 2013 at 7:05 am
“I don’t know that there is a PSYOP going on, but your misuse of that term seems to indicate no experience with that form of military operation. What you want is PROPAGANDA Campaign, which is a tool of politicians. In psychological warfare operations, the first rule is to never tell a lie. ”
Yeah, they would say that.
So I take it as a no, they’re just toying around with the Sarin, they’re not actually killing anyone.
Thanks. So I haven’t missed fabrications for now.
Good luck with the further psychological preparation of the populace.

June 27, 2013 9:23 am

Did some research on planar warming. Here is a gem from uncyclopedia:

One consequence of the Flat Earth theory is a neat and indisputable disproof of the theory of Global Warming. The argument goes along the lines of “if you ain’t got no globe, you don’t ain’t not got no global warming!” This consequence has led to an upsurge in political and scientific interest in the Flat Earth theory. Some have however stated that a flat world may be liable to Planar Warming, which (given that a flat world would have much less volume to contain heat than a spherical one) would be akin to living in a frying pan.
Others have suggested that Planar Warming might cause the surface of the planet to expand and become convex to the point that it becomes a sphere. This has led to another bunch of idiots pointlessly suggesting that the Earth was a disc as some point in the past, only becoming globular during the industrial revolution.

Their page on global warming is quite funny, too.

Hot under the collar
June 27, 2013 9:33 am

“Oh crap, I misheard, you mean the EPA actually said a graph of the earth ‘warming’ was flat”, said Obama.

Russell Johnson
June 27, 2013 9:55 am

Our Imperial Leader continues his campaign to destroy America’s economy and create a society dependent on Big Government. He even spoke outdoors in mid-afternoon sun so he could mop copious amounts of sweat from his face. The lies of a community organizer will be found out…..

Gail Combs
June 27, 2013 10:13 am

The president’s approval rating is headed for the sewer again over recent months. It will be interesting to see what happens to that approval rating over the coming months not that Obama gives a hoot.

Chad Wozniak
June 27, 2013 11:04 am

. Tim Ball –
Read your article – beautifully said. Now if only we can get the sycophant/lapdog media to put it on the air. With your permission, I’d like to forward it to Bill O’Reilly at Fox News – at least Fox doesn’t bow and scrape before his derFuehrership.

Janice Moore
June 27, 2013 11:22 am

“Tim Ball says: June 26, 2013 at 9:24 pm
…the article Tom Harris and I published today regarding Obama’s plan and comments.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/blowing-smoke-obama-climate-speech-riddled-with-lies/?singlepage=true
***************
Thorough, insightful, documentation. Thanks for sharing.
Good idea, Chad. Hey, how is the book and how is the music going?

June 27, 2013 11:39 am

Reblogged this on Johnsono ne'Blog'as.

Janice Moore
June 27, 2013 11:46 am

“Same as with Bush about 70 countries and the WMDs… ” [thingodonta 10:04 PM 6/26/13]
“The Security Council resolutions will be enforced. *** Bush’s speech drew a positive reaction from Russia and France, … .”
[http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/09/12/bush.speech.un/index.html]
“To date, there are 54 countries that have joined the Coalition of the Willing … This does not include all of the 15 nations that have offered quiet support. The number of nations to date already eclipses the 1991 Gulf War coalition, which had 38 countries.”
[http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2003/03/coalition-of-the-willing-already-larger-than-the-1991-gulf-war-coalition]

Janice Moore
June 27, 2013 11:48 am

Emphasis mine above.
Also, my attempt to “strikeout” “Bush” before “about 70 countries” failed. “About 70 countries” is my annotation.

Janice Moore
June 27, 2013 11:56 am

“… just fly it round the country and pick the members of the Flat Earth Society up, there can’t be that many.” [Dirk 12:55AM 6/27/13]
LAUGH – OUT – LOUD.

Gail Combs
June 27, 2013 1:54 pm

Janice Moore, Ric Werme’s Guide to Watts Up With That is your friend. Go to the bottom of the page for the html mark-up language. Even the computer challenged like me can use it. (he als has an index to articles)

Janice Moore
June 27, 2013 2:09 pm

Gail Combs,
Thanks so much for the tip. I’m embarrassed to say that I have given that same advice to others. I was too lazy (above) to check and verify that the command is “strike” not “strikeout.”
You are obviously NOT terribly “computer challenged” from all the super-fine computer research you so generously share with the rest of us.
Take care and enjoy your lovely horses!
(and, please, call me, Janice)
P.S. Way to hit the asthma and tick (and other) lies (I’m sorry, but there is NO WAY it was innocent mistake!) of D’oh!bama et. al.. BLAM! …. BLAM! Taken out by Ms. Combs’ double-barrel shotgun of refutation.

June 27, 2013 3:23 pm

Chad and others: please circulate the article to whoever you wish, including O’Reilly.
Thanks to all for the kind words.

Steven Hill
June 27, 2013 3:48 pm

Everything is a crisis with Mr. Obama, and other socialist of the past. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Chavez, Castro and others

phlogiston
June 27, 2013 6:30 pm

Backradiation modelling of CO2 global warming is generally done with a flat earth disc model.
It makes a difference, radiation from a molecule above a flat surface will strike that surface more often than if the molecule was above a curved spherical surface.
Radiation from a CO2 molecule above a sphere must necessarily go out to space more often than from the same molecule above a plane.
So who are the real flat earth society?

Lil Fella from OZ
June 30, 2013 1:44 am

This is policy making to warm the financial coffers. Or should I say, to broke a country. I make sure to keep copies of some of the outlandish claims. What will happen in 10 years time. I just hate to think where the world will be. The only endangered species are the finances of ordinary folk as a result of hoax policies.

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