Climate Craziness of the Week: Economist Tom Schelling makes NYT's Paul Krugman look rational

Steve Milloy writes at junkscience.com about this off the rails Nobel prize winner:

Nobel Economist says skeptics are deniers like Holocaust-denier Ahmadinejad

University of Maryland economist Tom Schelling goes off on skeptics… er…”deniers”.

Would Schelling feel better knowing that Ahmadinejad believes in catastrophic manmade global warming?

Also of note from Schelling:

  • Global warming is worse than an Iranian nuclear bomb
  • The president will soon have to take a boat from the White House to go to Capitol Hill

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Watch this nutcase here, note the Earth killing bottled water. Gleick will have a cow.

AEI_Capture_Shelling

http://videos.videopress.com/IEXlcir1/screencaptureproject6_hd.mp4

Tom Schelling’s CV is here: http://www.econ.umd.edu/faculty/profiles/schelling

When/if Iran detonates a nuclear device, we should probably ask the surviving people affected which is worse:

a. Instant carbonization of your town and family

b. About a degree of warming over the last century

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June 10, 2013 4:06 pm

I just figured he had spent too much time in the faculty lounge with Herman Daly. The whole premise for that steady state economics nonsense is Global Warming.
It’s so awful when reality gets in the way of a lucrative and influential model. Rise temps rise!
Next it will be the catastrophe models incorporated into the MMORPGs that will be seen as the “Truth.” If you get from level to level immersed in it it must be true.

TomRude
June 10, 2013 4:10 pm

Looks like there is after all a shelf date on Nobel recipients…

philincalifornia
June 10, 2013 4:16 pm

The liberal/conservative part reinforces to me that they’re getting seriously worried about this ship sinking. How many more liberal (as in totalitarian) claptrap “theories” (conjectures) are going down with it ?
This might be the first time in history that the voting public will actually see their shipwreck live as it happens, albeit slowly. The phrase “Ha ha, remember the global warming hoax” …….. (endless alternative next clauses).
So here you go Tom (and Jim and Kevin):
All your life is such a shame, shame, shame.
All your love is just a dream, dream, dream.
Open up your eyes
You can see the flames, flames, flames.
Of your wasted life.
You should be ashamed.
– Counting Crows

June 10, 2013 4:24 pm

Anthony I’d be careful here
This is a hoax surely.
This is an actor masquerading as Dr Schelling a man reputed to have a brilliant intellect.
Given his appearance and the rambling, nonsensical content of his speech the hoaxers are clearly trying to portray him as doddering, vain (check the comb over),and possibly on the verge of dementia or perhaps reacting badly to prescribed medication.
I fear you will be hearing from the lawyers of the ‘real’ Dr Schelling before long.

June 10, 2013 4:28 pm

He’s 92. James Lovelock is 94 and he recanted all his CAGW nonsense and criticized the models, the science, the hype…. – a gigantic feat for someone of an age when the brain starts to set like concrete. There is no question this man is senile. There is no question that he really isn’t and wasn’t that bright despite a tinkling chest full of awards. With the Nobel Committee completely commandeered by marxists, he received his prize in 2005, the infamous decade of asterisked prizes which I call the CrackerJack^TM prize period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_Jack
Wiki refers to it as being touted as the first junk food. I love the stuff. I was surprised to read the all natural ingredients on the package.

TOM TALASHEK
June 10, 2013 4:35 pm

You sir,
have just jumped the shark.

Jimbo
June 10, 2013 4:37 pm

Here is my stance.
The holocaust happened. Over 6 million Jews were murdered by the Nazis. Many others killed too.
Co2 is a greenhouse gas without which life as we know it would be impossible.
I don’t smoke cigarettes but I do drive a diesel powered car.
I have never had any stocks in fossil fuel or tobacco companies (unlike Pachauri & Gore past).
I do not represent fossil fuel or tobacco companies in any way, shape or form.
I am a firm adherent of Charles Darwin and evolution.
I appreciate & am grateful for the energy from fossil fuels and nuclear power.
But I am sceptical of the IPCC projections for 2100 for temps, sea levels and climate in general. My perception is that there is a lot of climate exaggeration going on which is publicly funded. (Have you noticed how their predictions are almost always BAD not good?)

temp
June 10, 2013 4:40 pm

The truly sad part about this person is he is neither extreme nor uncommon to the doomsday cult of warming… the only uncommon thing is unlike say algore this person is willing to speak from the “heart”. He’s the poster child of the cult.

Jimbo
June 10, 2013 4:53 pm

“Absolutely they know that the thousands of scientists who have been seriously working on this subject anywhere from 10 to 30 years, that they are not deliberately deceiving the public….”

Mmmmm. Interesting that. Lysenko et. al. managed the same thing.

Dr. Phil Jones – CRU emails – 5th July, 2005
“The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. OK it has but it is only 7 years of data and it isn’t statistically significant….”
Dr. Phil Jones – CRU emails – 7th May, 2009
‘Bottom line: the ‘no upward trend’ has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.’

Mike’s nature trick, keep the paper out somehow, stall FOIA, why give data so you can find something wrong with it, fire editors not towing the party line etc. There is absolutely no suggestion of deceiving the public. / sarc.
Public deception is precisely what this is all about.

June 10, 2013 4:56 pm

TomRude says June 10, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Looks like there is after all a shelf date on Nobel recipients…

On at least the economists they nominate … no guarantee he was properly ‘bolted down’ to begin with. Look at the NYT’s Krugman …
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Zeke
June 10, 2013 5:01 pm

If you have to make remarks about his age, please try to temper it by acknowledging the plain fact that some do their best life’s work past the age of 70. For example, Noah Webster. And being past 70 doesn’t mean you can’t have a beautiful right hook (:
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=buzz+aldrin+punch&mid=336DCAB45D74F9485FFB336DCAB45D74F9485FFB&view=detail&FORM=VIRE7
(Bill Gates of course hates to have to point out that living into your 70’s isn’t really natural, and human longevity will soon cost too much to sustain…
“We’re inventing ways of doing new things that cost $300,000 and take people in their 70s and, on average, give them an extra, say, two or three years of life. And then you have to say, given finite resources, should we fire two or three teachers to do this operation?” http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/17/bill-gates-death-is-something-we-really-understand-extremely-well/ )

Bruce Cobb
June 10, 2013 5:03 pm

I’m sorry, but I just don’t see how the Skeptic side can ever recover from such an onslaught from such a brilliant man. His brilliance shines as the brightest star, a North Star to guide us to the RealClimate truth, keeping us from the certain destruction resulting from questioning said Truth.
Perhaps if we repent now, our sins may be forgiven.

June 10, 2013 5:04 pm

There is a fine line between genius and madman … Schelling hasn’t achieved genius.

catweazle666
June 10, 2013 5:26 pm

I believe that economics is the only self-styled “predictive” science that looks bad compared with astrology.
Schelling demonstrates why.

Mac the Knife
June 10, 2013 5:35 pm

If his comments didn’t have the potential for real impact, I would just feel pity for this man and his rambling delusions.

Jason Calley
June 10, 2013 5:37 pm

I note that there was a very moving documentary made about Dr. Schelling.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062794/?ref_=sr_2

Betapug
June 10, 2013 5:53 pm

“Schelling is best known for his books The Strategy of Conflict and Micromotives and Macrobehavior.” Those interest explain almost everything.

SAMURAI
June 10, 2013 6:02 pm

Wow…. Just wow…..
Schelling and Krugman are the typical clueless “intellectuals” that are advising federal government officials on economic and environmental matters, which explains why the US economy is on the brink of collapse.
Hopefully, when CAGW is officially exposed as the hoax that it is, it will instigate a fundamental decentralization of Federal government control, leading to the abolishment of; The Federal Reserve, EPA, Energy, Education, HUD, Labor, FHA, Fannie/Freddie, Homeland Security and Agriculture.
ALL these functions should be turned over the states as the Constitution dictates in Amendments 9 and 10.
I’m just getting sick and tired of seeing people like Schelling and Krugman help destroy the US. If state leaders wish to listen to these nut jobs and implement destructive rules, regulations, taxes, and mandates, fine, people and businesses can move to another state but when central governments listen to these insane people, the only option is for people to move out of country.

Arno Arrak
June 10, 2013 6:21 pm

An economist with a Nobel prize he is. No science education, learnt about climate in four weeks when he got a political appointment. Lacks ability for critical thinking and does not understand what he is talking about. He has a high opinion of himself and thinks that is enough to be a climate expert. I certainly would not take his course. Remind me that Nobelists do not know any more than laymen do of fields outside their competence. He is a living example of this.

John West
June 10, 2013 6:24 pm

What I find most absurd is the ignorance of levels of disagreement of the loudly purported but hardly evidenced consensus view of climate science conclusions. How can one logically reconcile only recognizing the existence of two categories within the climate debate as if there are only climate scientists and “climate deniers” when there are climate scientists SKEPTICAL of the greatly asserted but pitifully evidenced consensus view? There’s a difference between “denying” the GHE and being skeptical that a small increase in GHG concentration necessarily raises the Earths temperature dangerously. To use his analogy, if a historian after considerable research announced a conclusion that a particular Nazi concentration camp had actually killed 20% less Jews than previous historians believed would he be a Holocaust Denier? Of course not, that’s absurd. Similarly it’s absurd to lump skeptics with deniers …. unless you’re a propagandist.

ferd berple
June 10, 2013 6:29 pm

“Absolutely they know that the thousands of scientists who have been seriously working on this subject anywhere from 10 to 30 years, that they are not deliberately deceiving the public….”
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No, like ulcers, they were deceiving the public by accident. It is human nature for those in authority to blame the common man, to separate them from their wallets. And for the common man to blame those in authority. to separate them from their heads.

ferdberple
June 10, 2013 6:36 pm

davidmhoffer says:
June 10, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Color the mid east aflame and the world’s oil supply completely disrupted, perhaps for decades.
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Luckily the US government will have foreseen this and ensured an ample supply of oil by building a pipeline to Canada. Otherwise, the US will surely be drawn into the mess trying to protect its supply of middle east oil. If you think the lineups during the Arab oil embargo were bad…. Think WWIII.

June 10, 2013 6:37 pm

As their religion is attacked, they grow more and more desperate. We have already had suggestions of gassing, mass executions, and now we have a a-bomb comparison. Does anyone wonder how the Nazis did what they did now? We have learned nothing.

wws
June 10, 2013 6:50 pm

Looked up his age, and now I just feel sorry for him, and angry at the manipulators who rolled the wheelchair of this broken down 92 year old man up to the table so they could use his name.