Junkscience.com reports this is what the print copy looks like today for this article by Eugene Robinson. Note what looks like black unfiltered pollutants spewing skyward:
But when you look at the original photo, you notice something different:
The caption reads:
Silhouetted against the sky at dusk, excess steam, along with non-scrubbed pollutants, spew from the smokestacks at Westar Energy’s Jeffrey Energy Center coal-fired power plant near St. Marys, Kansas. AP Photo/Charlie Riedel
Here is what the stacks look like in broad daylight – steam:
Apparently, WaPo hasn’t learned a damn thing since we last called them out for using this very same photo and had readers send complaints to their omubudsman. See:
The Washington Post Eilperin emissions trick
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Phil — at 7:48 am
Ok, you gives us a bunch of figures but you don’t tell us your source for those figures. Greens exaggerate almost always. Tell us your source.
Phil there is no free lunch in this world. The good that comes from that plant far out-weighs the small amount of pollution that comes out of it stacks. And we are just starting to discover the hidden pollution costs of green alternatives.
Arguing with Greens is like trying to tell a paranoid schizo that the world is not the way he conceives it to be. Greens and schizos are out of touch with reality and unfortunately for us they are usually very self-satisfied people.
Eugene WR Gallun
WAPO thinks it’s readers are stupid.
Now let’s wait and see if they’re wrong.
Thank you Janice,
It brought tears to my eyes to watch the video.
Sadly not many people understand that kind of pride.
The country is very different then when I grew up. And as I get old enough to hand the country of the next generation, I feel I am handing off a lot less then the WWII generation gave to us.
God Bless You.
Allan
Barbee says:
WAPO thinks it’s readers are stupid.
Now let’s wait and see if they’re wrong.
Barbee, just read the comments in articles in the WaPoo.
These are supposed to be “smart” people. But they are almost rabid.
Do it your self with freeware like Gimp, using the color tools. It takes slightly more time to cut and paste a polar bear on a ice floe. With high quality you will get art. However, that takes time and alarmists are always in a hurry.
Never mind the photo..read the text. Now THAT is polluting…..
phil…you never mentioned farmers here,but yu sure have tried to make them out as scarey on other sites.See,the problem is,you have a MO,and it easy to tell.Like NEVER posting links for your numbers,no matter what they are for. So please,just one linky???
Justthinkin says:
May 25, 2013 at 1:43 am
phil…you never mentioned farmers here,but yu sure have tried to make them out as scarey on other sites.See,the problem is,you have a MO,and it easy to tell.Like NEVER posting links for your numbers,no matter what they are for. So please,just one linky???
I don’t post anywhere about farmers so I think you are confused, and I do post links for my numbers, in this case i said that I used Westar Energy’s own data and given the name of the plant it’s easy enough to find on Google.
EW3 says:
May 24, 2013 at 10:04 pm
Thank you Janice,
It brought tears to my eyes to watch the video.
Sadly not many people understand that kind of pride.
The country is very different then when I grew up. And as I get old enough to hand the country of the next generation, I feel I am handing off a lot less then the WWII generation gave to us.
I’d find it more convincing if it were made by one of his contemporaries who did serve for his country like Jimmy Stewart (bomber pilot in europe, 2 DFCs, Croix de guerre, Air medal with three oak leaf clusters).
Breaking down the individual toxins that come out of a smokestack is nonsense. I guarantee I’m exposed to more of these when I light a fire in my fireplace than I would if I lived downwind from a coal fired power plant.
As an example of why it’s nonsense, I’d like to introduce you to a very toxic item that you likely encounter on a regular basis. It contains, as a partial list (out of 371 identified toxins):
That item is a carrot.
Daily Caller is all over this, too: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/25/critics-washington-post-used-misleading-photo-to-bash-coal-plant/
All of this begs the question. If the pollutants are so bad then shut the plants down. Do it!! Shut down every coal fired power plant today! If not then why not? The reason is simple because we don’t have an alternative. Yes there is NG but in general not where these coal fired plants are. Someone will say there are the alternative power solutions. Bwahahaha! Show me one alternative that doesn’t require HUGE amounts of conventional fossil fueled power to create and that are real viable replacements for fossil fuels… they don’t exist. So the bottom line is we have already achieved the 80% or so pollution controls that are practical and affordable and demands for that last percentage of pollution control are thinly disguised demands to eliminate fossil fuel with no viable alternatives. This demand is disguised because it is essentially asking the citizens to commit economic suicide. This entire arguement about fossil fuels and alternatives is full of intentional dishonesty. That is the problem and the barrier to solutions.
“and I do post links for my numbers, in this case i said that I used Westar Energy’s own data”
My my,we are confuzzed,phil.Asking me to google is NOT posting a link. Your cognitive disonance is showing,not that that is a surprise.
Phil. says:
May 24, 2013 at 7:48 am
The mercury levels in that coal are about 0.07ppm and about 10,000,000 tonnes of coal are burned there per year so that’s about half a tonne of mercury emissions pa. Total sulfur is about 0.3% so that’s 30,000x.05=1500 tonnes Sulfur emissions pa.
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The problem is that people have been told something that is quite untrue. We have been told that substances are either poisonous or not poisonous. This is a huge lie. The substance itself does not make it dangerous. It is the combination of the substance and the dosage that makes it dangerous.
The most likely effect of eliminating harmful substances is to make our bodies super sensitive to these materials. While it is true that some substances are cumulative, and small doses cannot increase the protection against larger doses, by and large most materials do not work this way. In general the human body is adapted to take advantage of small doses of harmful materials to build a resistance to larger doses.
In general, large dosages of normally beneficial materials such as food and water are toxic. And small doses of normally harmful materials are either harmless or beneficial. We live in a sea or radiation, yet it does not kill us. Eating dirt as children appears to give immunity against many modern diseases. Mithridatism and vaccination both rely on controlled dosages of small amounts of normally harmful materials to confer protection against larger doses.
Should we ban children from eating dirt? Like coal, dirt also it contains 0.07ppm of mercury. Should we ban mercury from medicine? One might just as well argue that since viruses are toxic, we should also ban them from medicine. Yet without the use of viruses in medicine, we would still have 50% of all children dying before their 5th birthday.
Welcome to the schizophrenic world of post-modernism.
Dear Allan,
You are welcome.
Gratefully,
Janice
— Wonderful, isn’t it? One need never have served in the U. S. Armed forces to love one’s country. ALL of us Americans with minds and hearts healthy enough to remember and to comprehend what America stands for love our country. We don’t need any convincing. We just do.
Resoundingly fine riposte (to the anti-“CHEMICAL” and “Help is, there are toxins in there!” nuts), Code Tech.
Those are the same ignoramuses who believe with all their heart that “organic” fruits and vegetables have a different biochemical composition than produce from farms where CHEMICALS were used for fertilizer instead of steer manure (which is, of course, TOTALLY toxin-free, LOL).
Just try to explain to them that the reason the Farmers Market produce tastes fresher is because it is fresher (not due to being “organic”) and they get a fixed, self-satisfied, grin, their eyes glaze over slightly, and they respond, “Well, you can just tell,” and quickly walk away before you can say another word.
In this Eugene Robinson is correct. If the President uses the EPA to regulate, mandate, and fine Americans for CO2 from energy generation, and methane from cattle and crops, he will be undercutting Congress, States, and citizens and using his “executive powers to the fullest extent.” That is accurate. “Obama will have to go it alone.” “Alone” is a very good term for the situation he will be in.
I took the actual photo of the Kansas power plant from your web site, and used the well-known graphics program, Gimp, to invert it. The resultant image looks very similar to the Washington Post “photo”! My suspicion is that the Washington Post image is not “excess steam, along with non-scrubbed pollutants”, but a digitally manipulated image, designed to mislead — not to inform.
The article was written by Eugene Robinson… not to worry, the man truly is an idiot. Just listen to him on CNN from time to time when he is part of one of their ‘panel discussions’ it will become quickly evident to anybody that the man has no credibility.
Incidentally, I have been at this power plant on numerous occasions as I do some consulting work for them. It is a very diligently run operation, has a great pollution control system and has one of the finest and most dedicated group of people that I’ve ever had the pleasure of working with.
Wonderful work! That is the type of information that should
be shared across the internet. Shame on Google for now not positioning this post upper!
Come on over and seek advice from my site . Thank you =)
I have visited parks run by green loving environmentalists. Worst kind of polution habits I have ever seen when I walked thru the village where these workers lived.
Of course, we can do the opposite to their creations:
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Photoshopped_burning_wind_turbine.jpg
As I remember National Geographic did the same sort of thing about the Alberta oilsands. A hatchet job. Put me right off that magazine. What else do they lie about?
Thanks, Peter Westmore, for your experiment. I also did it and obtained the result within a minute (see my comment above). Perhaps we do need a new verb, in the sense that a photograph has been gimped. Could experts discover that colors are inverted?