Mannian money madness

richardscourtney says:
April 10, 2013 at 12:18 pm
Friends, especially JC:
I will take every penny offered by the Kochs, Big Oil, Big Coal, Big Energy, or anybody else.
There are people here – notably JC – claiming such money exists.
I WANT SOME.
But nobody has said how to get it.
Clearly, those who know it is available know how it is obtained: how else could they know it is available?
So, will those who know please tell me how I can get some of this money?
Or are JC and others who claim to know about this money keeping it to themselves?
Richard

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Richard, if JC ever lets you in on the “secret”, please let me know. While my contributions to supporting skepticism and “Big Evil Stuff” via my comments here may be small, perhaps they have been worth at least a couple of cents off the gallon when I gas up my car?

dbstealey:
Your post at April 10, 2013 at 4:45 pm says in total

JC says:

“You mention the common ill-conceived ’16 year’ hypothesis. Would you care to see either a graph of the last 150 years of atmospheric temperature change…”

Here is a graph of the past century and a half, which refutes both your alarmist position, and your false claim of ‘cherry-picking’ [since 16 years and 150 years obviously covers the gamut].
The fact is that Planet Earth is falsifying your belief system. CO2 has nothing measurable to do with temperature. You are simply off-base. Your conjecture is wrong. Can I make it any more clear than that?

Your post mentions two issues.
Firstly, JC is plain wrong that there is a “16 year hypothesis”. Depending on the considered data set there has been no discernible global warming (at the 95% confidence used by ‘climate science’) for at least 16 years and possibly 23 years. This is empirical fact and not hypothesis.
The matter is discussed in the still current WUWT thread at
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/08/are-climate-models-realistic-now-includes-at-least-february-data/
AGW is at best a hypothesis (more properly, a conjecture).
Secondly the rise in global temperature over the last century was a trivial ~0.8 deg.C.
During each year global temperature (yes, GLOBAL temperature) rises and falls by 3.8 deg.C.
A recent explanation of this variation of global temperature during each year is at
http://theinconvenientskeptic.com/2013/03/misunderstanding-of-the-global-temperature-anomaly/
So, the global warming which so worries JC is a about a fifth of the global warming which occurs during 6 months of each year.
Richard

dbstealey:
re your post at April 10, 2013 at 5:11 pm.
The reasons for global temperature variation during each year are
(a) The Earth’s orbit is an elipse – not a circle – so the Earth moves towards and away from the Sun throughout the year. The Earth is closest to the Sun (so gets most heating) in January/December and is furthest from the Sun in June/July
and
(b) The northern hemisphere (NH) is mostly covered in land but the southern hemisphere (SH) is mostly covered in water. Land has lower thermal capacity than water so the NH varies in temperature more than the SH: NH summer is hotter than SH summer and NH winter is colder than SH winter.
Global temperature is the average of both NH and SH temperatures but the NH and SH have different seasonal variations . The different NH and SH seasonal variations combine with the variation in solar heating as the Earthy orbits the Sun to vary global temperature so it rises and falls by 3.8 deg.C during each year.
As I have often said – including on WUWT – these cyclical variations in global temperature of 3.8 deg.C during each year could be expected to induce harmonic oscillations in the climate system. Hence, a variation of a mere 0.8 deg.C (as occurred during the twentieth century) may occur as a natural variation requiring no forcing: it could be harmonic oscillation.
Richard