Weekend open thread – Attack of the Gorebots

I’m a little bit toasted from the effort to get WUWT-TV online, so I’m taking a rest. I did note with some humor though this gloating missive from Dana “scooter” Nuccitelli over at “Open Mind” about Gore’s event:

See Dana, the thing is (and this is lost on you and your friends) is that WUWT earned those views honestly.

We didn’t need an army of Gore viewbots to inflate the numbers: 

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Stephen Rasey

Submitted on 2012/11/16 at 2:54 pm

For fun, I was considering the proposition that each of the viewers of WUWT-TV and Gore-TV might belong to 1 of 2 populations:

X = population with a mean view time of 1 hr. (Watchers)

Y = population with a mean view time of T minutes. (Bots + thrashers)

Let T = average view time for the Y population.

Let TV = Total Views in 24 hours.

Let CV = Current Views average over 24 hr.

CV = X + Y

TV = 24* (X + Y*60/T)

Solution:

X = CV*(60/(60-T)) – TV*(T/(24*(60-T)))

Y = CV – X

TV(WUWT) = 16,690 (what I remembered seeing. I could be wrong.)

CV(WUWT) = 550 is my guess at an average in a range of 420-670 from personal observation. Until we have something better.

TV(Gore) = 15.7 million (from mfo 02:28 prev. thread) . I cannot confirm that, but Reg. Blank above reports about million at 2.25 hours, about 10% into it.

CV(Gore) = 9000 @ TV=300K, 1.5 hr;

= 11200 @ TV=500K, 1.9 hr.

= 12100 @ TV “close to a million” at 2.25 hr. from Reg. Blank above.

Shortly after this the CV counter was taken down. So we will have to guess this by exploring a range of possible values. An important constraint here is that the three observation points give a mean view time of only 3 minutes (approx.).

Frac_TV_X = Fraction of TV that can come from X population (1 hr mean) views.

Frac_TV_X = X*24/TV

First, WUWT-TV: (TV=16690, CV=550)

If T=0.16, X=550, Y=0.4, Frac_TV_X = 0.790

If T=1, X=548, Y=2, Frac_TV_X= 0.787

If T=10, X=521, Y=29, Frac_TV_X = 0.749

So 74-79% of the TV (total views) are coming from the population views with a mean 1 hr.

Now Gore-TV: (TV = 15.7 million)

If CV = 36000 (3 times highest known value)

If T=0.16; X=34347; Y=1653; Frac_TV_X=0.053

If T=1; X=25523; Y=10477; Frac_TV_X=0.039

If T=2; X=14684; Y=21316; Frac_TV_X=0.022

If T=3; X=3465; Y=32535; Frac_TV_X=0.005

T>4 is not possible.

If CV=24000, T=0.16; X=22315; Y=1685; Frac_TV_X=0.034

If CV=50000, T=0.16; X=48385; Y=1615; Frac_TV_X=0.074

If CV=100000, T=0.16; X=98518; Y=1482; Frac_TV_X=0.151

Note: T=0.16 represents a viewer that is opening the stream and shutting it down in a 10 second loop. With T=0.16, X = watchers, Y = ‘bots.’

Conclusion: X is tightly coupled with the estimate for CV. But the fraction of total views from 1-hr Watchers is illuminating. The Frac_TV_X (= 1hr people views / total views) is highest for high CV and low T. For CV = 36000 (3 time higher than any reported in the first two hours) only 5% of the total views were from “watchers”, 95% from bots. We have to use CV=100,000 (8 times higher than max observed), to reach a point where even 15% of total views could be from a population with a 1 hr mean view. At least 85% of total views were bots cycling every 10 seconds.

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If Gore was so secure in his message, don’t you think he would not need to resort to such trickery? Given his budget in the millions -vs- mine in the few thousands, it should have been pretty easy to squish me like a bug.

It seems though, such stagecraft and padding because they fear their message needed a boost from some tricks has been the hallmark of the crowd you run with.

Oh, and I cleaned out Tips and Notes…it was clogged to the point of some readers not being able to open it anymore on weaker PC systems.

UPDATE: SunTV did a story on the Gore-a-thon with Tom Harris, and WUWT is mentioned. See the video here.

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James Bull
November 18, 2012 12:30 am

I am proud to say I was one of those 16 000
James Bull

Roger Edmunds
November 18, 2012 1:10 am

16,000 views for WUWT-TV? It sounds unlikely, given the general traffic on this site. Here in the UK I, for one, was completely unable to watch anything as both sound and picture were either breaking up or just missing for extended periods every few seconds – I didn’t manage to hear a single complete sentence. With this sort of problem would I have been counted as one of the 16,000? Does anyone understand how the counting is performed (i.e . at what point is a connection counted)? Given the number of comments about this issue, would it be worth doing some sort of survey to find out how many people had this problem and from where? I suspect it will be a lot more than you think.

Andrew30
November 18, 2012 1:59 am

Ric Werme says: November 17, 2012 at 11:53 am
“Then, take the barometer down, keep it vertical, and use a small flat bladed screwdriver to turn the adjusting screw.”
Also, tap the barometer before taking it down, and tap it after each very small turn of the screw, then tap it again after putting it back up. Tap it a couple of times before taking a reading.
Tap, tap, tap, barometer need to be tapped gently. Air pressure changes are not a big force and the mechanism needs to be tapped to allow final movement. The tap should be very light, just enough to see that the measurement ‘bounces’ ever so slightly.

November 18, 2012 2:24 am

Roger Edmunds says:
November 18, 2012 at 1:10 am
Agreed – I tried to watch several times and got nothing but stuttering and spluttering (except, strangely, the advert – there was only one. Repeated endlessly)

RB
November 18, 2012 2:29 am

I watched from the UK and after a bit of a stuttery start the stream was very good for the 4 or so hours I watched.

November 18, 2012 2:52 am

There is currently a program on BBC with near to viewing figures and that is Strictly Come Dancing which is a fantasy glamorous dance competition. Bit like the Goreothon then.

Keitho
Editor
November 18, 2012 3:44 am

I watched for lengthy periods over the whole 24 hours. My feed was good and I did not suffer from anything other than the very occasional choke on my bandwidth.
I would say it was an extremely good effort by all concerned. I know from a friend in radio how hard it is to stage a 24 hr series of programs and articles and I would say Anthony and all those involved did a great job.

November 18, 2012 3:50 am

A question for everybody:
It is very easy to demonstrate that GHGs radiate a great deal of energy out into space, more so than non-GHGs and at lower average temperatures. I took this up in the Coolist’s View article at anthropogenicglobalcooling.com. This easy-read article completely demolishes the simple models of global warming presented on warmist websites.
Therefore I conclude that the simple models of AGW are erroneous.
However the possibility exits that a more complicated climate reality exists which I have never seen expressed. In this alternate reality the cooling function of GHGs must be highly non-linear and have some dependencies of which I am unaware . I did get a clue from a paper that I read on line a couple of days back (perhaps WUWT?) in which CO2 is recognised as being a gas which cooled the planet until it reached a certain critical density.
As most skeptics have slight warmist sympathies can anyone tell me what the critical density of CO2 in the atmosphere is where it ceases cooling and begins warming?
Alternative explanations as to how GHGs can convert heat to radiation (which isn’t heat) at relatively low temperature, send it into the depth’s of space and warm the planet at the same time would be most welcome.
I really am puzzled by this and would appreciate any help that you skeptics can give me. I’m pretty certain that warmists would just chant mantras at me so I will not bother with them.
Stay cool.

DirkH
November 18, 2012 3:56 am

Jimbo says:
November 17, 2012 at 11:15 pm
“As Germany closes its nuclear power stations coal use goes up. You really can’t make this stuff up.”
Our German Greens are very careful not to mention energy, cost of energy or Global Warming at all. Instead they concentrate on class warfare, trying to emulate Obama’s success. They messed up the energy market and now won’t have anything to do with it.
BTW, one of the most prominent German Marxists of the 20th century, the late Rudi Dutschke, believed that automation, computerization and nuclear power would lead to a 5 hour workday, freeing up the energy of the proletariat for a revolution.
He wrote that in the 60ies. He was later one of the first Marxists to hijack the antinuclear movement for his political purposes.

AJB
November 18, 2012 4:32 am

Steven Mosher says, November 17, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Everything’s in proportion, Steve. Always look at the derivatives, not the raw data. Parody inversion at it’s best, must have something to do with the lapse rate:

J Martin
November 18, 2012 4:55 am

From a comment on Climate Etc.
I liked this so much I just had to bring it to WUWT somewhere.
manacker | November 17, 2012 at 5:49 pm | Reply
Girma

It’s Christmas Eve 2014, as the 17th year of “no global warming” nears its end…
Two grandfatherly climatologists, Jim and Phil, are sitting by the burning Yule log, sipping their Kool-Aid, as a sudden rattling noise startles them
Jim (on edge): What’s that noise I hear?
Phil (concerned): Is it Santer’s reindeer up on the roof?
Jim (worried): No, but could it be the rustle of a falling house of cards?
Phil (shuddering): Or, perhaps the sound of of tables being turned?
Both (sighing with relief): Whew! No, it’s just the sound of goalposts being moved.
(The lights dim as the two take another sip of Kool-Aid…)
Max

Wouldn’t it be nice and festive of us if we were to get this printed onto a Christmas card and send it to the ‘team’ and a good number of their associate priests. ?

papiertigre
November 18, 2012 5:02 am

Something I discovered accidentally tonight, PBS affiliate KQED’s Climate Watch (the online source for Northern Californian global warming alarmists) is defunct. They gave up the ghost on October 1st.
http://blogs.kqed.org/climatewatch/2012/10/01/climate-watch-joins-new-kqed-science-unit/
Just as Joe Romm’s site was absorbed by Think Progress, Climate Watch has been absorbed by the more general topic http://science.kqed.org/quest/, where AGW will be relegated to a sidebar of defunct socialist bogeys; next to the spotted owl, Bigfoot sightings, low salmon runs and the like.
That puts their demise in the wake of Anthony Watt’s initial PBS interview with SPENCER MICHELS.
I’d count it as a pelt.

Gail Combs
November 18, 2012 5:27 am

Roger Edmunds says:
November 18, 2012 at 1:10 am
16,000 views for WUWT-TV? It sounds unlikely, given the general traffic on this site.
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No it is not unlikely. How many of us badgered friends into watching too who do not visit WUWT? Sort of the “if you tell 10 people and they tell 10 people” sort of thing. With the internet the “tell ten people” becomes even easier.
Also how many of those people told were activist friends who started watching because they were going to point out the flaws and got caught in the science?
The best part of WUWT TV is that no one came off as the “Raving Loons” that the MSM and Lewandowsky accuse us of being.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
November 18, 2012 5:33 am

From Eco-geek on November 18, 2012 at 3:50 am:

It is very easy to demonstrate that GHGs radiate a great deal of energy out into space, more so than non-GHGs and at lower average temperatures. I took this up in the Coolist’s View article at anthropogenicglobalcooling.com. This easy-read article completely demolishes the simple models of global warming presented on warmist websites.

Using the commenter name link to the site yields:

Error
The Page Could Not Be Found
This may be because the owner hasn’t built their InstantPro website yet, that the web address for the page you were trying to reach has changed, or that you have clicked a broken link. If you are the owner, you can find more help & info at the Freeola Support Centre.

Trying to draw our attention to a non-existent article on a non-existent site?

Gail Combs
November 18, 2012 5:35 am

tallbloke says:
November 18, 2012 at 2:36 am
Breaking: http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/disinvited-ipcc-will-not-be-going-to-the-un-cop18-party-in-doha/
____________________________________
OH MY…
I am speechless!
I wonder what this will do to BBC’s lower than whale poo reputation?
This was a key phrase

Climate leader parties with Big Oil
by Avaaz Team – posted 14 November 2012 11:00
….With less than two weeks before the next round of UN climate negotiations in Doha, guess who the president of those crucial climate talks was having a party with? Yes, that’s right, Big Oil chiefs at the Oil & Money 2012 conference in London – a gathering of over 450 senior executives from the fossil fuel industry….

You really need to do a thread about this here at WUWT Tallbloke.

beng
November 18, 2012 5:35 am

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jkivoire says:
November 17, 2012 at 12:32 pm
For what it’s worth, I didn’t watch a minute. I am, alas, still on dial-up and don’t participate in these things. I will, however, catch up at my leisure…
****
I was too, until I figured out a single-provider DSL/land-line package was cheaper than separate land-line/dial-up providers. Check it out.

Editor
November 18, 2012 6:23 am

One more alarmist claim bites the dust. New paper says droughts are not getting worse and the Palmer index cannot be used to assess global changes.
http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/another-alarmist-claim-bites-the-dust/#more-1957

Gail Combs
November 18, 2012 6:30 am

Martin says:
November 18, 2012 at 4:55 am
From a comment on Climate Etc….
….Both (sighing with relief): Whew! No, it’s just the sound of goalposts being moved.
(The lights dim as the two take another sip of Kool-Aid…)

Max
Wouldn’t it be nice and festive of us if we were to get this printed onto a Christmas card and send it to the ‘team’ and a good number of their associate priests. ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
With the appropriate cartoon by Josh of course. Sounds like a great Christmas card. (Hint Hint Josh)

November 18, 2012 6:38 am

Eco-geek says:
November 18, 2012 at 3:50 am
It is very easy to demonstrate that GHGs radiate a great deal of energy out into space, more so than non-GHGs and at lower average temperatures.
===============
One theory is that GHG is responsible for the atmosphere cooling with altitude, because a column of air is predicted to be iso-thermal otherwise. Gravity limits this cooling to a maximum of the dry air lapse rate (DALR – due to conversion between KE and PE), but without GHG these would be no lapse rate. If that is the case then adding more CO2 to the atmosphere can only lead to more cooling, and minimal at best, because gravity ultimately limits the effect.
The proof for this theory is seen in the temperature of the atmosphere. Above the height where the atmosphere contains GHG the lapse rate reverses and temperatures increase with altitude. This tells us that GHG cools the atmosphere, similar to a radiator in a car. You cannot heat a car engine by increasing the size of the radiator.

Paul Coppin
November 18, 2012 6:39 am

” Richard111 says:
November 18, 2012 at 12:03 am

It is an open thread. I agree with the comment. I feel this is an evolutionary thing.
The cost of producing food has rocketed world wide as well as the massive land grabs to produce inedable bio fuel.
Also the closure of nuclear power stations and forced dependancy on wind and PV which will be inoperable under coming heavy winter conditions.
Some of us are preparing for the coming cold. Most are not. What will be will be.

This will become the great awakening of the warmists, when they find, they’ve been sold a bill of goods. There is a logic circle at work here for the intellectually handicapped – the planet is warming, so energy production is not going to be as important. Its use is mostly frivolous and hurting the planet and therefore, since the planet is getting warmer, we can reduce energy production to save the planet. There is no null hypothesis to their circularity. It’s a lemming spin into their own black hole.

November 18, 2012 6:48 am

note: I did not believe the iso-thermal column of air result until I undertook a length simulation project over at talblokes site with some other readers. We coded up a number of atmospheric simulations in Java and Matlab and each simulator returned the same result.
Gravity by itself did not create any atmospheric lapse rate. Which was very surprising because you would expect molecules to increase in temperature with decreasing altitude due to gravity, because of the conversion of PE into KE. However, due to collisions this is not what happens. Because the atmosphere is less dense above and more dense below, this favors high KE molecules rebounding upwards, which exactly balances the increased KE from falling downwards.
What this result implies is that something other than gravity is the cause of the lapse rate, and gravity simply limits the maximum lapse rate to the conversion rate of PE->KE. Which means that GHG cools the atmosphere, and gravity limits this cooling. Which implies that increasing CO2, if it does have any effect, it can only be to increase cooling efficiency.

Robert of Ottawa
November 18, 2012 7:01 am

8 million people watched the sky jump from 128k feet on Youtube alone. That was an event the whole world saw. If Gore got 16 million viewers, then I’m surprized how few people know about it.

Roger Knights
November 18, 2012 8:02 am

Following up on my comment at http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/11/17/weekend-open-thread-attack-of-the-gorebots/#comment-1150652 upthread, here are the names of 43 scientists who’d qualify for Wikipedia’s list, once links to their statements about AGW can be found. (It includes the five I’d previously mentioned.) Some of the names with only brief descriptions have been gleaned from the signers of an open letter to, or op-ed in, the WSJ, here: http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/2012/01/scientists-no-need-to-panic-about-global-warming/ Others are from names listed in the “Who We Are” section of the International Climate Science Coalition.
Sonja A. Boehmer-Christiansen, PhD, Reader Emeritus, Dept. of Geography, Hull University, Editor – Energy&Environment, Multi-Science (www.multi-science.co.uk), Hull, United Kingdom
Jan Breslow, head of the Laboratory of Biochemical Genetics and Metabolism, Rockefeller University;
Dr. David Bromwich–president of the International Commission on Polar Meteorology–says “it’s hard to see a global warming signal from the mainland of Antarctica right now.”
R.G. Brown at Duke
America’s Reid Bryson, known as the “father of scientific climatology” and judged “the world’s most cited climatologist” by the journal of the Institute of British Geographers.
Ian D. Clark, PhD, Professor (isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology), Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Roger Cohen, fellow, American Physical Society;
Paul Copper, BSc, MSc, PhD, DIC, FRSC, Professor Emeritus, Department of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University Sudbury, Ontario, Canada
Richard Courtney
Edward David, member, National Academy of Engineering and National Academy of Sciences;
Willem de Lange, MSc (Hons), DPhil (Computer and Earth Sciences), Senior Lecturer in Earth and Ocean Sciences, Waikato University, Hamilton, New Zealand
Robert Durrenberger, past president of the American Association of State Climatologists, and one of the climatologists who gathered at Woods Hole to review the National Climate Program Plan in July, 1979: “Al Gore brought me back to the battle and prompted me to do renewed research in the field of climatology. And because of all the misinformation that Gore and his army have been spreading about climate change I have decided that ‘real’ climatologists should try to help the public understand the nature of the problem.”
Hans Erren, Doctorandus, geophysicist and climate specialist, Sittard, The Netherlands
David Evans
Lee C. Gerhard, PhD, Senior Scientist Emeritus, University of Kansas, past director and state geologist, Kansas Geological Survey, U.S.A.
Nobel Prize-winning physicist Ivar Giaever resigned as a fellow from the American Physical Society, saying he could not live with its nonsensical endorsement of global-warming alarmism
Chief Meteorologist Eugenio Hackbart of the MetSul Meteorologia Weather Center in Sao Leopoldo – Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil declared himself a skeptic. “The media is promoting an unprecedented hyping related to global warming. The media and many scientists are ignoring very important facts that point to a natural variation in the climate system as the cause of the recent global warming,” Hackbart wrote on May 30, 2007.
Ole Humlum, PhD, Professor of Physical Geography, Department of Physical Geography, Institute of Geosciences, University of Oslo, Oslo, Norway. See Professor Humlum’s important colation of climate data at http://climate4you.com/.
Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, professor emeritus of the Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection in Warsaw and a former chairman of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR) and currently a representative of the Republic of Poland in UNSCEAR, and a world-renowned expert on the ancient ice cores used in climate research: “We thus find ourselves in the situation that the entire theory of man-made global warming-with its repercussions in science, and its important consequences for politics and the global economy-is based on ice core studies that provided a false picture of the atmospheric CO2 levels.” Also says the U.N. “based its global-warming hypothesis on arbitrary assumptions and these assumptions, it is now clear, are false.”
Geologist Dr. Wibjorn Karlen, professor emeritus of the Department of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology at Stockholm University, critiqued the Associated Press for hyping promoting climate fears in 2007. “Another of these hysterical views of our climate. Newspapers should think about the damage they are doing to many persons, particularly young kids, by spreading the exaggerated views of a human impact on climate.”
Dr. Kelvin Kemm, formerly a scientist at South Africa’s Atomic Energy Corporation who holds degrees in nuclear physics and mathematics: “The global-warming mania continues with more and more hype and less and less thinking. With religious zeal, people look for issues or events to blame on global warming.”
IPCC 2007 Expert Reviewer Madhav Khandekar, a Ph.D meteorologist, a scientist with the Natural Resources Stewardship Project who has over 45 years experience in climatology, meteorology and oceanography, and who has published nearly 100 papers, reports, book reviews and a book on Ocean Wave Analysis and Modeling: “To my dismay, IPCC authors ignored all my comments and suggestions for major changes in the FOD (First Order Draft) and sent me the SOD (Second Order Draft) with essentially the same text as the FOD. None of the authors of the chapter bothered to directly communicate with me (or with other expert reviewers with whom I communicate on a regular basis) on many issues that were raised in my review. This is not an acceptable scientific review process.”
Dr. George Kukla, a research scientist with the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University, expressed climate skepticism in 2007. “The only thing to worry about is the damage that can be done by worrying. Why are some scientists worried? Perhaps because they feel that to stop worrying may mean to stop being paid,” Kukla told Gelf Magazine on April 24, 2007.
_____ Loehle
James Lovelock
Paleoclimate expert Augusto Mangini of the University of Heidelberg in Germany, criticized the UN IPCC summary. “I consider the part of the IPCC report, which I can really judge as an expert, i.e. the reconstruction of the paleoclimate, wrong,” Mangini noted in an April 5, 2007 article. He added: “The earth will not die.”
James McGrath, professor of chemistry, Virginia Technical University;
Fred Michel, PhD, Director, Institute of Environmental Sciences, Associate Professor of Earth Sciences, Carleton University, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Rodney Nichols, former president and CEO of the New York Academy of Sciences;
Dr. Nathan Paldor, Professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem has authored almost 70 peer-reviewed studies and won several awards. “First, temperature changes, as well as rates of temperature changes (both increase and decrease) of magnitudes similar to that reported by IPCC to have occurred since the Industrial revolution (about 0.8C in 150 years or even 0.4C in the last 35 years) have occurred in Earth’s climatic history. There’s nothing special about the recent rise!”
Brian Pratt, PhD, Professor of Geology (Sedimentology and Paleontology), University of Saskatchewan
B.P. Radhakrishna, President of the Geological Society of India, expressed climate skepticism in 2007. “We appear to be overplaying this global warming issue as global warming is nothing new. It has happened in the past, not once but several times, giving rise to glacial-interglacial cycles.”
Dr. Oleg Sorochtin of the Institute of Oceanology at the Russian Academy of Sciences has authored more than 300 studies, nine books, and a 2006 paper titled “The Evolution and the Prediction of Global Climate Changes on Earth.” “Even if the concentration of ‘greenhouse gases’ doubled man would not perceive the temperature impact,” Sorochtin wrote. (Note: Name also sometimes translated to spell Sorokhtin)
Dr. Sami Solanki–director and scientific member at the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Germany, who argues that changes in the Sun’s state, not human activity, may be the principal cause of global warming: “The sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures.”
Leif Svalgard (sp?)
Dr. Richard Tol–Principal researcher at the Institute for Environmental Studies at Vrije Universiteit, and Adjunct Professor at the Center for Integrated Study of the Human Dimensions of Global Change, at Carnegie Mellon University, calls the most influential global warming report of all time “preposterous . . . alarmist and incompetent.”
Anton Uriarte, a professor of Physical Geography at the University of the Basque Country in Spain and author of a book on the paleoclimate, rejected man-made climate fears in 2007. “There’s no need to be worried. It’s very interesting to study [climate change], but there’s no need to be worried,” Uriate wrote.
Gerrit J. van der Lingen, PhD (Utrecht University), geologist and paleoclimatologist, climate Change consultant, Geoscience Research and Investigations, Christchurch, New Zealand
Peter Wadhams (Dutch, cited by Marcel Crok of Climate Dialog)
Dr. Boris Winterhalter, retired Senior Marine Researcher of the Geological Survey of Finland and former professor of marine geology at University of Helsinki, criticized the media for what he considered its alarming climate coverage. “The effect of solar winds on cosmic radiation has just recently been established and, furthermore, there seems to be a good correlation between cloudiness and variations in the intensity of cosmic radiation. Here we have a mechanism which is a far better explanation to variations in global climate than the attempts by IPCC to blame it all on anthropogenic input of greenhouse gases,” Winterhalter said.
Dr. David Wojick is a UN IPCC expert reviewer, who earned his PhD in Philosophy of Science and co-founded the Department of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie-Mellon University: “In point of fact, the hypothesis that solar variability and not human activity is warming the oceans goes a long way to explain the puzzling idea that the Earth’s surface may be warming while the atmosphere is not. The GHG (greenhouse gas) hypothesis does not do this.” Wojick added: “The public is not well served by this constant drumbeat of false alarms fed by computer models manipulated by advocates.”
Chinese Scientists Say CO2 Impact on Warming May Be ‘Excessively Exaggerated’ – Scientists Lin Zhen-Shan’s and Sun Xian’s 2007 study published in the peer-reviewed journal Meteorology and Atmospheric Physics: “Although the CO2 greenhouse effect on global climate change is unsuspicious, it could have been excessively exaggerated.” Their study asserted that “it is high time to reconsider the trend of global climate change.”

November 18, 2012 8:22 am

HenryP says in part, on November 17, 2012 at 12:08 pm:
“First, can I just explain that Sandy was not due to or caused by “global
warming”. In fact, it is quite the opposite. Remember from your schooldays that
(more) clouds and (more) condensation are formed when water vapour cools
(more)? It is the global cooling that is now causing some extra weather events.
You will see this soon also being confirmed by much harsher winters.”
The way I have seen it, there is a slight negative correlation between cloud
cover and temperature. More heat and water vapor increases the efficiency
of updrafts in convective clouds, meaning percentage of surface covered by
updrafts decreases. A warmer world makes convective clouds more
concentrated.
However, it appears to me that IPCC considers the cloud albedo feedback a
few times as much positive as it appears to me – it does not make sense for the
cloud albedo feedback to be more positive than the surface albedo one. And,
positivity of the cloud albedo feedback reduces the water vapor positive
feedback, since a less cloudy atmosphere with increased percentage being
downdraft would have less relative humidity.
As for windstorms in the extratropical northern hemisphere other than tropical
cyclones, the main energy source is horizontal temperature gradient. Since the
Arctic has warmed more than the tropics, the warming weakens such storms and
related winds. Major tornadoes are weakened, and Nor’Easters have their winds
weakened. Consider that once Sandy left the Gulf Stream towards New Jersey,
it was mainly a Nor’Easter. It was conditions favorable to forming a Nor’Easter
that made Sandy large in size while it was still over warm water.