By Don J. Easterbrook, PhD.
In a paper “Global warming preceded by increasing carbon dioxide concentrations during the last deglaciation”, Shakun et al.(Nature 2012) contend that rising temperature at the end of the last Pleistocene glaciation were preceded by increasing atmospheric CO2. In his usual masterful fashion, Willis Eschenbach has dug deeply into the data used in the paper and shredded the conclusions in it (see http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/06/a-reply-shakun-et-al-dr-munchausen-explains-science-by-proxy/
and http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/07/shakun-redux-master-tricksed-us-i-told-you-he-was-tricksy/#more-60932/. So rather than dwell on the things that Willis has already shown so well, I thought I’d take a look at some of the assumptions and misconceptions that paper is built upon.
When reading a paper like this, I always like to ask myself, what are the basic assumptions that underlie the methodology involved? What contentions are simply stated as fact or generated in a computer model, rather than demonstrated with real, physical evidence? I will confess here that I don’t believe computer models really prove anything. Sure, they can suggest many things and point out areas of interest, but I live the real world and prefer real physical evidence upon which to base important conclusions. That doesn’t mean I discount models out of hand—it simply means that I look for physical evidence to confirm or deny what the models are saying. So I asked myself a series of questions about the basic issues in this paper. Here are some of the questions that I came up with (the answers follow).
1. Can the Antarctic ice cores be dated with sufficient accuracy to establish a firm temperature chronology?
2. Are the 80 temperature proxies used in the paper sufficiently accurate to establish a solid global temperature chronology?
3. Can CO2 in the ice cores be measured with validity and accuracy?
4. Can the difference in the age of the trapped air and the age of the enclosing ice be determined and is it constant with age?
5. Are CO2 measurements from air bubbles valid or do diffusion and the uncertainty in the timing of isolation of air in bubbles render them invalid?
6. Is the data from Antarctic ice cores consistent with data from the Greenland ice cores?
7. Is the temperature chronology of the ice cores and global proxies consistent with the well-dated, global glacial record?
8. Is the so-called ‘see-saw’ of climate changes between hemispheres valid, i.e, are climate changes in the Northern Hemisphere out of phase with those in the Southern Hemisphere?
9. Would correlation between CO2 and temperature necessarily prove that CO2 causes climatic warming?
10. Since CO2 is incapable of causing climatic warming by itself (CO2 makes up only 0.038% of the atmosphere and accounts for only a few percent of the greenhouse gas effect), is there evidence of concomitant increase in water vapor (which causes more than 90% of the greenhouse gas effect)?
11. Is the AMOC the only viable causal mechanism? What about the influence of the Pacific Ocean, which covers about half the Earth’s surface
So, what is the main contention of this paper and what does it imply? The authors claim to have “compelling evidence that rising CO2 caused much of the global warming” at the end of the last ice age, roughly 11,000 to 25,000 years ago. According to the authors, “if you reconstruct temperatures on a global scale – and not just examine Antarctic temperatures – it becomes apparent that the CO2 change slightly preceded much of the global warming, and this means the global greenhouse effect had an important role in driving up global temperatures and bringing the planet out of the last Ice Age.” The crux of their contention is illustrated in their Figure 2.
Shakun et al. Figure 2. The Red line is Antarctic temperature curve based on ice cores; the yellow dots are CO2 measurements from ice cores; the blue line is composite global temperature from 80 proxies.
Willis has sliced and diced the data behind these curves so be sure to read his analyses. I’ll refer to some of his graphs and conclusions but look at the Shakun et al. contentions from a somewhat different angle. Because this is such a marked divergence from the widely held view that CO2 lagged rising temperatures at the end of the last ice age, careful scrutiny must be given to evidence and assumptions upon which this contention is based. Right off the bat, a most surprising conclusion in this paper is that the authors claim that correlation proves cause. Simply showing that CO2 correlates with anything surely doesn’t prove that CO2 was the cause. It’s the same kind of mindset involved with the oft-heard claim that if we have had global warming while CO2 was rising that proves the cause was the rise in CO2. Heck, I had hair before CO2 began to rise, but I don’t blame that on CO2.
So let’s look at each of questions posed above.
- How accurate is the dating of Antarctic ice cores? How can you date ice that has nothing in it that can be directly dated? The Shakun et al. paper states that they use the methodology of Lemieux-Dudon et al. (2010), which involves construction of a model using estimates of snow accumulation rates, temperature, firn densification rates, and ice flow rates, all of which vary from glacier to glacier and from glaciation to interglaciation (thus introducing large potential errors). The modeling data is then modified by matching with tephra horizons, sulfate spikes, δ18O, firn densification model results, and orbital tuning. All of the assumptions built into the modeling are cumulative, resulting in large possible age errors. As Lemieux-Dudon point out “One special feature of glaciological models is a large model error due to unresolved physics and errors on the forcing fields, clearly affecting the quality of the inferred dating scenarios.” What this means of course is that the age determinations of the Antarctic cores are, at best, educated guesses with large uncertainties. Because chronology is so critical to the Shakun et al. contention, the ages of the Antarctic cores shown in their Figure 2 cannot be considered accurate.
- Are the 80 temperature proxies used in the paper sufficiently accurate to establish a solid global temperature chronology? Willis Eschenbach has made a detailed analysis of the data used to construct the global temperature curve in Figure 2 of Shakun et al.(see this in his web posting) He plotted individual curves for each of the 80 temperature proxies used to create Figure 2 in the Shakun et al. paper. What he found was large variability in the data, which led him to conclude that “The variety in the shapes of these graphs is quite surprising Yes, they’re all vaguely alike, but that’s about all. The main curiosity about these, other than the wide variety of amounts of warming, is the different timing of the warming.” When he ploted all the individual proxies all together (see below), the scatter is readily apparent, leading him to conclude: “It’s clear that there is warming since the last ice age.” “But if you want to make the claim that CO2 precedes the warming? I fear that this set of proxies is perfectly useless for that. How on earth could you claim anything about the timing of the warming from this group of proxies? It’s all over the map.”
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Dr. Easterbrook requested this correction below saying:
As one of your readers pointed out, Willis used ‘Year’ for his time scale (meaning years BC, rather than years BP). I didn’t notice this (geologists always use years BP for events older than a few thousand years), so there really isn’t a discrepancy between the Shakun global curve and Willis’s data points. That graph and the text with it should be replaced with the attached file “dje response to Nature paper x.doc”) or it can just be removed from the posted version. That also means that the YD shown vertical time lines in the previous graph needs to be moved over 2000 yrs so we might as well just Willis’s graph (see attached file).
Sorry for the glitch–my fault–I should have caught it, but the thought never occurred to me that Willis would use 25,000 years BC. It doesn’t change any other of the other material.
Large scatter of individual data points on Willis’s plot from the 80 proxies used in the construction of the Shakun et al. temperature curve. I’ve added lines to show the age of Younger Dryas interval, which doesn’t correspond to the dip in the Shakun et al. temperature data.
Just for fun, I superimposed the curves on Shakun et al. figure 2 over Willis’s data point plot (see below). Because the global temperature curve (the blue curve) was presumably derived from the data in Willis’s plot, it should fit well with it. Interestingly, it doesn’t. I’ve shown with a blue arrow the dip in temperature that corresponds to the Younger Dryas and a black arrow pointing to what should be the same dip in temperature on the plot of individual data points. Other arrows point to similar differences for the end of the Younger Dryas. Now you would think that since the Shakun et al. blue curve was constructed from the individual data points shown on the graph, the two should surely be compatible! I’ve also shown on the graph the well-established age of the Younger Dryas—note that the Shakun et al. global temperature data points show a dip in temperature (presumably the Younger Dryas) that is considerably younger. Makes you wonder!
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3. Can CO2 in the ice cores be measured with validity and accuracy?
4. Can the difference in the age of the trapped air and the age of the enclosing ice be determined and is it constant with age?
5. Are CO2 measurements from air bubbles valid or do diffusion and the uncertainty in the timing of isolation of air in bubbles render them invalid?
Because these questions are all inter-related let’s consider them together. The validity of measurement of CO2 from bubbles in ice cores has been challenged in a number of studies. There are several basic problems: (1) air becomes trapped in ice during the conversion of snow to firn to ice. Air in the snow/firn phase remains in contact with surface air until it turns to ice and seals off air bubbles from further mixing with surface air. The depth at which sealing occurs varies considerably, depending on the rate of firn densification, and may extend to more than 100 meters and take a thousand years or more. This means that the age of air in a bubble is not the same as the age of the inclosing ice. Snow densification rates vary considerably between temperate and polar glaciers and between glacial and interglacial climates, making it difficult to measure and date adequately. In any case, rates are not likely to be constant. (2) a second problem results from possible diffusion along the walls of an air bubble, which can upset the CO2 concentration in the bubble. These and other problems mean that measurement of CO2 in ice cores is not straight forward—measurement of CO2 concentrations in ice bubbles and determination of the age of the air are likely to be quite variable. General trends are apparent in CO2 ice core measurements, but variability in CO2 concentrations and age remains problematic.
At this point, answering the remaining questions is quite obviously going to take some time, so they will be considered in Part 2, coming soon.
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FerdiEgb says:
April 10, 2012 at 9:07 am
“The following describes the sublimation technique to be used on the Dome C ice core, but no publication date is given:
http://www.awi.de/de/forschung/fachbereiche/geowissenschaften/glaziologie/techniques/high_precision_d13c_and_co2_analysis/”
Thanks for the reference.
Since oxidation reactions are reversible, it appears to me that the sublimation chamber, being illuminated with infrared lamps, could provide the energy needed for endothermic chemical reactions, and could hide CO2 by producing hydrocarbons from CO2 and water. After all, plants to this by photosynthesis, and they will grow when illuminated with red vsible light. Just a thought.
Grumpy Old Man says:
April 9, 2012 at 1:02 am
Somewhat OT but I would like to know how well the diffusion theory is grounded and would this also apply to ammonia trapped in the ice which is regarded as a signature for an ET impact by Mike Baillie (dendrochronolgy). His graphs appear to show a clear spike with no or very little diffusion.
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Different chemistry
CO2 and the problems with ice as a “bottle” (Think how soda pop goes flat in a year or so if it is kept in an unopened straight from the store plastic bottle) see:
http://robertkernodle.hubpages.com/hub/ICE-Core-CO2-Records-Ancient-Atmospheres-Or-Geophysical-Artifacts
http://www.warwickhughes.com/icecore/
http://www.co2web.info/np-m-119.pdf
The stomata research also totally destroys the ice core data. (Ice core CO2 data is too low.) http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/stomata.html
Two sacred cows of CAGW are:
1. CO2 is well mixed in the atmosphere.
2. CO2 data from Ice Cores is correct because it shows CO2 levels prior to industrialization were low.
Anyone who tries to refute either of these basics of CAGW is subject to attack.
Historic CO2 measurements 1826 to 1960: http://www.biomind.de/realCO2/
I will save Ferdinand Engelbeen (FerdiEgb), defender of the faith, from the trouble of responding by posting his rebutal : http://www.ferdinand-engelbeen.be/klimaat/beck_data.html
Gail Combs says:
April 10, 2012 at 5:29 pm
You forgot to mention my rebutal of Jaworowski:
http://www.ferdinand-engelbeen.be/klimaat/jaworowski.html
Even if you have not the slightest knowledge of ice cores, what Jaworowski says can’t be true on two main points: One can’t find lower levels in ice when the outside CO2 is much higher. CO2 migrates from high to low levels if cracks are present, not the other way out. The presence of high CO2 levels when drilling fluid in cracks are detected proves that .
And the “arbitrary” shift of ice core CO2 data “to match the Mauna Loa data” only proves that he doesn’t (want to) understand that the age of the gas composition is (a lot) younger than the age of the ice at closing depth, because of migration of CO2/air from the atmosphere through the still open pores. Quite remarkable for an ice core specialist.
Most of his objections of 1992 where already rejected in 1996 by the work of Etheridge e.a. on the three Law Dome ice cores, but until his death, he still insisted on his objections.
As said before: ice core data are real, directly measurable CO2 data averaged over 8-600 years, depending of the local snow accumulation rate. Stomata data are local CO2 proxies, subject to local changes in growth, precipitation, fertilisation and land use changes, including traffic and industrialisation, in the main wind direction. As they grow over land, the average CO2 level is already 40-50 ppmv higher than in the bulk of the atmosphere. That bias is taken into account by calibrating the stomata data against… ice cores over the past century.
The averaging in ice cores doesn’t change the average of the CO2 levels found. If stomata data show a higher or lower average over the same period of time, then the bias in the stomata data did change over time.
Thus your reference of CO2 levels during the Younger Dryas only shows that the local/regional landscape (vegetation type and growth speed) changed due to the harsh conditions of that period. Nothing global.
Thus please don’t use Jaworowski or Beck or stomata data as “proof” that the ice core data must be wrong, you make all skeptics unbelievable on points where the “consensus” is far less solid: the real effect of 2xCO2.
BTW, if satellites don’t show more difference than +/- 8 ppmv CO2 in the mid-atmosphere in all parts of the globe, while over the seasons some 20% of all atmospheric CO2 goes in and out, then I call that “well mixed”…
Dr Easterbrfook:
You make reference to the fine deconstruction of the paper by Willis E. in a previous WUWT thread. In the light of that – and especially with reference to your point 2 – I think it worthwhile to draw attention to a point I made in that thread. I copy it here to avoid the need for you and others having to find it.
Richard
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richardscourtney says:
April 12, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Willis:
Thankyou for yet another of your superb critiques of a paper.
I write to support two comments you have made in the subsequent thread.
At April 6, 2012 at 6:01 pm you say;
“What I’m seeing from these proxies is that we don’t know as much as I thought we did about the shape and timing of the emergence from the last ice age. The other proxies tell a very different story from the ice cores …”
And at April 6, 2012 at 7:28 pm you say;
“Whatever ‘something’ these proxies are measuring, it’s clear that they are not measuring the same something. For example, the GRIP greenland ice cores show warming, starting 27,000 years ago. They warm slowly for about 10,000 years, then they warm rapidly to a peak about 10,000 years ago, and after that, they gradually cool down.”
Yes! Oh, yes!
I have repeatedly pointed out (in several places including WUWT) that
(1) ice core data are useful because they indicate CO2 concentration and isotope-derived temperature data from the same trapped gas bubbles
but
(2) ice core data are NOT a direct indication of anything because
(2a) different ice cores provide different indications
and
(2b) other proxies (e.g. stomata data) provide different indications to those of the ice cores and to each other.
The entire AGW edifice is built on dubious data. Therefore, much that is asserted as being “known” (e.g. temperatures and their changes, atmospheric CO2 concentrations and their changes, etc.) is very, very debateable. Please note that this applies to both proxy-derived data of the distant past and to measurement-derived data averaged to provide global and hemispheric information of the recent past.
With the possible exception of the satellite-derived data, all of the basic climate parameters are of unknown accuracy, reliability and precision. And this problem becomes obvious whenever different data sets for the same parameter are compared.
Richard
Dr Easterbrook:
I writ to apologise for my misprinting your name.
No insult was intended. I admit to difficulty spotting typing errors I have made: I tend to read what I intended to write and not what I wrote. Hence, I have only now noticed my serious error.
Sorry.
Richard