Open Thread Weekend

Gaian Goofs Genuflecting Gratuitously. Gah!

From the Science-does-not-matter-it’s-wealth-distribution dept:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/global-campaign-for-climate-action-pushing-spin/story-fn59niix-1226314986334

http://www.infowars.com/climate-change-skepticism-a-sickness-that-must-be-treated-says-professor/
Global warming alarmist equates climate denial with racism
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Friday, March 30, 2012
“Comparing skepticism of man-made global warming to racist beliefs, an Oregon-based professor of sociology and environmental studies has labeled doubts about anthropogenic climate change a “sickness” for which individuals need to be “treated”.
Professor Kari Norgaard, who is currently appearing at the ‘Planet Under Pressure’ conference in London, has presented a paper in which she argues that “cultural resistance” to accepting the premise that humans are responsible for climate change “must be recognized and treated” as an aberrant sociological behavior.”
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http://www.infowars.com/un-backed-scientists-call-for-mega-city-population-lockup/
Jurriaan Maessen
Infowars.com
March 29, 2012
“In a recent statement put out by “Planet Under Pressure” several scientists call for denser cities in order to mitigate worldwide population growth. When in doubt that UN’s Agenda 21 is not the Mein Kampf of our day, one should consider yet another in-your-face confession from yet another certified biocratic control freak
According to an MSNBC article one of the scientists while speaking about human populations worldwide, stated:
“We certainly don’t want them strolling about the entire countryside. We want them to save land for nature by living closely [together].”
Insisting the world’s population be locked up within the confounds of mega-cities, the elite realizes that if the herd is to be properly controlled walls are needed- thick walls, and by constructing these walls, making the masses go this or that way will be made easier.. ”
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http://www.planetunderpressure2012.net/pdf/pr_27_03_12_options_opportunities.pdf
The conference ran from 26th-29th March 2012
“PRESS RELEASE
Embargo: 09:15 GMT / 10:15 British Summer Time, Tuesday March 27, 2012”
The actual conference was from the 26th.

the CAGW party is over, read all:
31 March: Bloomberg: Ewa Krukowska: Carbon ‘Like Titanic’ Sinking on EU Permit Glut
The plunge in European Union carbon permits is putting prices on course for their longest-ever decline and shows no sign of ending as member states wrangle over curbing a glut in the market.
EU allowances for December fell 5.2 percent this year, extending a streak of quarterly losses stretching back to March 2011. Prices may drop a further 50 percent and lawmakers will probably fail to cut supply in the world’s largest emissions market through a so-called set-aside process, according to UBS AG…
“Unless EU governments come up with a surprise decision to strongly support the set-aside or ambitious mid-term emission- reduction targets, I don’t see prices moving up much over the coming months,” Tuomas Rautanen, head of regulatory affairs and consulting at First Climate in Zurich, said by e-mail…
Prices will probably fall to about 3 euros before lawmakers are able to tighten the bloc’s emissions targets, a process that may take “years,” Per Lekander, UBS’s Paris-based global head of utilities research, said in a phone interview yesterday.
“It’s not that I’m skeptical on the set-aside, it’s just not going to happen,” he said. “It’s going to get blocked.” Utilities including RWE AG (RWE), based in Essen, Germany, will probably buy allowances in high volume should prices drop near 3 euros, the analyst said…
“It’s a big challenge to re-design the ETS and make it a system that would reward both energy efficiency and pure emission reductions, but you can’t avoid it,” he said today by phone. “It’s like being on the Titanic and seeing the iceberg in front of you; either you make a U-turn or crash.” …
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-30/carbon-like-titanic-sinking-on-eu-permit-glut.html

Mike Jonas says:
March 31, 2012 at 12:37 am
“Here’s a great carbon sequestration scheme being touted by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation):
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-30/scientists-urge-rethink-on-power-station-sales/3924406
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Very shallow pie-in-the-sky presentation with no numbers.
Last thing I heard is that Carbon Capture technologies consume half of the energy you produce in the coal power plant, so you’d have to burn twice as much coal for one net unit of energy.
Next, they want to run it as a state-run industrial-research conglomerate. So I think I can safely say, it will NEVER make a profit. They’ll make sure.
That being said, one could of course imagine such an electrolysis and storage process to be useful, e.g. for excess wind and solar energy (makes you wonder why you built those wind and solar generators in the first place, but hey, if you are left with them say due to political mistakes in the past, or because they’ve come down in price enough to be irresistible, or you just have absolutely no better use for a piece of land, and not even environmentalists run around on it, you could just as well use it for power generation), so if you happen to have such energy, why not electrolyse water, but that would then be a RATIONAL decision – what the Oz boffins propose in the video is a state run economic disaster.

A little dated, but it still gave me a chuckle: http://acrazychicken.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/americans-out-sequester-world-in-carbon.html

‘GLobal Warming is Over Hansen proving right all along”
Arctic sea ice rebounds to closely match the average extent for the satellite record began in 1979. Antarctic sea ice extent continues to increase. Penguins, Polar Bears and Harp Seals Safe.
Despite record increases in CO2 emissions the rebound is spectacular. Professor Mansen said ‘This is exactly the sort of climate change I have been predicting for many years and it is worse than we expected” Sorry I have to leave now visiting time is over! Oops I mean you have to leave”

Physical analysis shows CO2 is a coolant for the atmosphere
There is a fallacy dominating the way of our thinking in current climate research that radiative gases such as carbon dioxide and water vapour are regarded greenhouse gases that trap heat and warm up the atmosphere. Physics analysis of carbon dioxide, oxygen and nitrogen molecules, however, tells a different story: carbon dioxide is cooler than, gains heat by molecular collision from, and dissipates heat by radiation for nitrogen and oxygen. Indeed, CO2 is a coolant of the atmosphere, and it is nitrogen and oxygen gases that award the Earth a warm liveable near surface atmosphere.
The physical principle behind the analysis lies in the Kirchhoff’s law of 19th century radiation physics, which can be restated in plain English as: an object that absorbs emits and an object that emits absorbs. Absorption and emission are two inseparable equivalent identities of the same physical essence. Carbon dioxide absorbs infrared therefore it emits as well thermal radiation. Nitrogen and oxygen do not absorb, therefore do not emit. CO2 approaches 0 K because of its emission if there is no radiation source; absorption of the thermal radiation from the earth ground surface rises CO2 temperature from -273.15°C to -78°C only. CO2 gains heat by colliding with warmer nitrogen and oxygen to rise its temperature further, which can be measured by spectroscopy.
We will have a better understanding of the physical principle if one notices that a computer case is often designed black. This is because a black surface emits more heat out so the computer will be cooler. On the other hand, an industrial boiler is usually painted silver to reduce thermal emission to reserve heat.
With this alternative interpretation, we have a better explanation of the temperature-altitude profile of the atmosphere; in particular, a better explanation of the existence of the thermosphere where the molecular temperature of residual oxygen gas is well above 100°C ¾ CO2 gas is sorted out in the thermosphere due to its heavier molecular weight.
http://www.jinancaoblog.blogspot.com.au/2011/11/physical-analysis-shows-co2-is-coolant.html

Jinan Cao says:
March 31, 2012 at 3:25 am
“Carbon dioxide absorbs infrared therefore it emits as well thermal radiation. Nitrogen and oxygen do not absorb, therefore do not emit.”
Gases only emit on distinct wavelengths, the same on which they absorb – so they can’t emit random frequencies or a blackbody spectrum. They can only rid themselves off energy via radiative means if they have enough energy to emit a photon on one of their absorption/emission spectral lines.

DirkH;
Don’t you realise that CO2 will emit thermal radiation as long as its temperature is not 0 K?