Note: This letter to WUWT from Sherri Quammen was received today at at 1:47 PM PST and titled as: A “do it yourself” home global warming test. I present it in entirety, unedited, with appropriate citations for spelling and the original story. See follow up here. – Anthony
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When I suggested (WUWT May 22nd, 2007) that Mr. Watts park his gas guzzler in the garage, close all the doors and leave his engine running, it was a humourous [sic] yet effective attempt to make a point to all the ney [sic] sayers that man has drastically affected this planet’s climate as well as it’s [sic] very fragile, life supporting eco-systems.
I merely suggested that he try a little experiment at home comparing the effects from the exaust [sic] of just one running vehicle on his health as well as the probable increase of temperature in his garage. He obviously knows that many folks have commited [sic] suicide doing this or he wouldn’t have avoided the real issue and instead call me a vitral [sic] filled leftist or what ever he said at the time. If one car in an enclosed area ( like the Earth’s atmosphere) can kill someone, then imagine what six billion running cars can do.
In just the short time that the government insued [sic] a no fly rule after 9-11 where no planes were allowed in US skies, there was over a one degree cooling of the atmosphere’s temperature or something like that. Can you see where I’m going with this, or am I just another tree hugging earth lover with my head in the polluted clouds? I’m pretty sure this won’t be printed. We can expect as much from a man paid by the corporations to be a weapon of mass deception.
Sherri Quammen
Concow, CA
Yeah, we have a very “fragile eco-system”. What was that prediction by Sherri’s watermelon friends after the BP oil spill? Oh yeah, “The Gulf of Mexico would become a wasteland”. How’s that prediction working out for you, Sherri?
Bob says:
March 22, 2012 at 2:47 pm
REPLY: No, this is a letter from a real person, here she is below on YouTube – Anthony
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Just ignore her, there’s nothing anyone can say that will open her eyes.
[snip – no proof that is the same person – Anthony]
This is kind of like the IQ version of the Darwin Awards; where someone demonstrates succinctly that 50% of the population do have an IQ of less than 100.
“Can you see where I’m going with this, or am I just another tree hugging earth lover with my head in the polluted clouds?”
It’s hard to buy this kind of entertainment. Thanks for the comic relief Anthony, priceless.
This sort of thinking is directly attributable to decades long subsistence on a diet of nuts and dirt … my question is why did it take her nearly 5 years to repost her thoughts? Surely her singing career doesn’t take up that much of her time.
REPLY: I think she stumbled on a recent article about me and Fakegate in the local alternate weekly – Anthony
Anthony
Sherril only lives a half hour away from you, on the other side of Paradise, so why not invite her over for a cup of (organic) coffee?
REPLY: I tried that back in 2007, she wasn’t interested – Anthony
In the name of humanity you should close comments on this thread…
For shame, Anthony, for shame! Picking on a mental quadriplegic.
But like shooting fish in a barrel,
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOz1vinNXZg&w=560&h=315%5D
it is kind of good, dumb fun (and anybody who enjoys it is going straight to hell),
and, if Surely should read this, you might get another sparkling missive about the evul miltilary-industrial compost, or wasting all that precocious brass just for the porpoise of draining all that toksik dihydrogen monoxide industiral waste on the dessert floor.
further evidence of why California is doomed…
who let all these idiots into my state?
From a CNN article:
The thin wisps of condensation that trail jet airliners have a significant influence on the climate, according to scientists who studied U.S. skies during a rare interruption in national air traffic after the September 11 terrorist attacks.
During the three-day commercial flight hiatus, when the artificial clouds known as contrails all but disappeared, the variations in high and low temperatures increased by 1.1 degrees Celsius (2 degrees Fahrenheit) each day, said meteorological researchers.
Oops!
” … Just ignore her, there’s nothing anyone can say that will open her eyes. …”
I wonder. I really do wonder about that. Not her specifically; but the deluded watermelons like her. Is there any set of facts, data, or theory that would open their eyes? If the deity herself desended and said on The Daily Show that climate just vasilated and there was nothing to fear — would that be enough?
I guess not.
Ok, let’s take the experiment seriously for a second
To create a correct physical model, using a garage that’s say 6 metres by 4 metres (ie 24 sq metres) is hopelessly out of scale
Assuming we have 7b people on earth, and a land surface area of about 148 million square kilometres, and a sea surface area of about 362 million square kilometres, then each person has on average 21000 sq metres of land, and 43000 sq metres of sea surface to support their existence.
Now since this is a global average, the land will be a full range from arctic to desert conditions. Sea surface will be mostly salt, but will vary in temperature.
On land, we can expect vegetation to convert some of our waste products to O2, and the water to absorb some of our other by products.
Assuming we have a vertical column of air above, this is a long way from the model proposed by Sherri.
However, I am willing to volunteer for this experience with my SUV (which I do own and operate to make a living) – I’d have far more space and clean air than I enjoy at present – I wonder how my local climate will change?
Andi
PS – I note that Sherri’s lack of grammatical and spelling skills is a sad product of our liberal education systems globally, and a shear lack of understanding of what actually comes out of an SUV’s exhaust is indicative of what passes for science these days
PPS – unless of course this is some huge practical joke in which case you got me hook, line and sinker!
Murray Grainger says:
March 22, 2012 at 4:14 pm
very fragile, life supporting eco-systems.
Why are eco-systems always fragile? (or delicate or etc)
Agreed! In fact ecosystems seem to be the exact opposite! They are dynamic, flexible and indestructable. Just witness the last few million years!
I cdnuolt blveiee taht she cluod aulaclty wirte waht I was rdanieg. Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the first and last ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can still raed it wouthit a porbelm. This is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh?
So dno’t wrory aobut Ms Sehrri, seh deosn’t haev two be a graet spleler, waht is imoptrant is saivng teh wrlod form eivl cabron.
Paul Westhaver says:
March 22, 2012 at 3:35 pm
There is no being reasonable with a person who is so culturally prefabricated. Old age is the only solution here. There is no open mind in a close-minded leftist.
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In her case there is no hope she is well into her thirties/forties and her mind is therefore set in concrete. http://www.pbase.com/alansheckter/image/134211302
Only having her “Revolution” and waking up to horror as the Russian Intelligentsia did will make her open her eyes and SEE. There is no other hope so I would prefer she dies disappointed.
Thank you for sharing Ms Quammen’s letter…as a natural skeptic, I suspect her letter to be a hoax but regardless, it’s refreshing to read the someone who has clearly tapped into the spirit of Archie Bunker after a day of way too much seriousness…
Steve
REPLY: No hoax, I checked the email and originating IP address. It is part of a continuing theme from her, see this: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/06/21/quote-of-the-week-australian-gassing-edition/
-Anthony
markstoval says:
March 22, 2012 at 4:15 pm
This girl has the disease of many people: they want to “save the earth”. It makes them feel like a comic book hero.
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A corollary of this is that they begin to look for comic book bad guys. I’ve heard this so many times. People delude themselves into thinking I’m an ‘industry operative’ (whatever in hell that means to them). Apparently many of them are believed to still be at large from the secondhand smoke denying days. I guess that makes me some sort of Agent Smith from the Matrix or something. Wish I got the cool shades and the awesome evil powers to go with it! I’d even settle for an oil industry provided paycheck for my subversive blogging activities, but alas, not only don’t I get one, I’ve never come across the slightest shred of evidence anybody else does either. ~sigh~
“I’d have gotten away with it too if not for you meddling kids!”
markstoval says: March 22, 2012 at 4:15 pm
CAGW Fever?
Climate Chlamydia?
Carbon Dioxide Poisoning?
IPCC flu?
Eco-Freako?
Mann’s Malady?
EPA Staff Infection?
Terminal Stupiditis?
markstoval says:
March 22, 2012 at 4:15 pm
We need a cool name for this “save the planet” disease. Ideas?
how about econihilism
Firstly, I am not sure why we are bothering commenting on this meaningless letter.
She has got a lot of us worked up over very little.
But it does represent the misconceptions of a vast number of AGW supporters.
BTW, my understanding of the temperature change measured during the ‘no-fly’ days was that it was an increase, due to removal of pollution known to be a cooling influence which counteracts what is claimed to be warming from real greenhouse gasses.
My memory fails to recall the video, even though it was only a couple of days ago.
If anyone seriously wants the reference, I will search for it.
@ur momisugly markstoval says:
March 22, 2012 at 4:15 pm
We need a cool name for this “save the planet” disease. Ideas?
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How about Rheumatoid Gaiaitis?
The only plausible benefit from the CO2-Drives-Climate fiasco is deeper insight into what drives people crazy around mass movements. This Quammen lady is, like most of us, at most a mere footnote in this game, but she might well encourage a trick cyclist somewhere to get interested in what has been going on in the intersection of jumped-up climate science, propaganda-psychology, and politics over the past 30 years or so.
Climate Dissident says:
March 22, 2012 at 2:38 pm
There is this article (including the standard homage to the false gods):
http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/Bright-Green/2010/0201/Airplane-contrails-and-their-effect-on-temperatures
During the day it lowers the temperature but at night it rises the temperature.
Simple question of insulation: the blanket keeps the cold out at night but keeps the Sun out during the day.,
This is an old chestnut that is often rolled out.
Contrails can only form when there is a layer of close to supersaturated air. The water vapor content is such that when an aircraft dumps water vapor in engine exhaust at over 600C into the air it almost immediately forms ice crystals. So a layer of nearly 100% humidity – water vapor being a powerful ‘green house gas’ (sic) will absorb and re-radiate infra red. When the contrails form the water vapor is still there but the contrails (usually ice crystals) will raise the albedo reducing solar energy to the ground. If the supersaturated area is large the persistent contrails may spread and turn into cirrus. (Note that clouds will only form in 100% humidity) The cirrus will greatly increase albedo.
If the humidity is not quite high enough then non-persistent contrails form where the ice crystals that form in the jet exhaust relatively rapidly sublimate back into water vapor.
Aircraft are flying over your head in the Continental USA all the time. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1L4GUA8arY But you will only see contrails when the humidity is high enough. Most of the time aircraft motor past at 25,000 ft or higher and you are totally unaware of them. Only when there is sufficient water vapor will you see the contrails. It is the water vapor that will reduce cooling.
9/11 and the following days was a bright clear pre-fall day over most of the country with a dome of high pressure and dry descending air that slowly moved East to the East coast. These days are cooler than normal in September anyway. So the researchers were right it was cooler – but it would probably have been just as cool with the aircraft flying anyway.
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Smokey says:
March 22, 2012 at 4:39 pm
too fnnuy for wrdos…
ah, ah, ah….