Guest post by Alec Rawls
“President no longer worried about CO2!” That’s what the headlines should have read last week after Obama presented an elaborate argument that alternative energy is the only viable response to high energy prices without ever once mentioning CO2, global warming or climate change. Instead, he presented the need to lessen our reliance on oil purely as an economic imperative.
Back when he thought that global warming was a winning concern Obama used to acknowledge that his anti-CO2 policies were going to cause high energy prices (forcing them to “necessarily skyrocket“). Now he is trying to use the high energy prices that he intentionally caused as a reason to get away from fossil energy. But if we are no longer worried about climate, how about just undoing the anti-fossil-fuel policies that drove prices up in the first place?
Obama’s silence on climate is a testament to how thoroughly the alarmists have lost the climate debate in the eyes of the voting public. Obama can’t even mention climate change (never mind global warming), even in a speech about his own climate-driven policies.
To make his economic argument, Obama puts forward two glaring lies. Let’s take these whoppers one at a time.
The lie that we are already aggressively developing our fossil resources
From the President’s March 15th energy policy speech at Prince George’s Community College in Largo, Maryland:
Under my administration, America is producing more oil today than at any time in the last eight years. (Applause.) Any time. That’s a fact. That’s a fact. We’ve quadrupled the number of operating oil rigs to a record high. I want everybody to listen to that — we have more oil rigs operating now than ever. That’s a fact. We’ve approved dozens of new pipelines to move oil across the country. We announced our support for a new one in Oklahoma that will help get more oil down to refineries on the Gulf Coast.
Over the last three years, my administration has opened millions of acres of land in 23 different states for oil and gas exploration. (Applause.) Offshore, I’ve directed my administration to open up more than 75 percent of our potential oil resources. That includes an area in the Gulf of Mexico we opened up a few months ago that could produce more than 400 million barrels of oil.
So do not tell me that we’re not drilling. (Applause.) We’re drilling all over this country.
That’s chutzpah, bragging about opening up drilling in the Gulf after using the Deep Horizon spill as an excuse for wiping out the Gulf drilling industry with an illegal moratorium.
Everyone knows about the big anti-oil moves from Obama and the Democrats, like rejecting the Keystone pipeline and continuing to block drilling in ANWR, but if you want a picture of how systematic and extreme their anti-fossil-energy policies have been, take a look at the list compiled by House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Doc Hastings. As soon as they got in the Obamatons started revoking all the permits that were in the pipeline: for exploration, for mining, for drilling, for building power plants. Everything was shut down to almost nothing, and that is the way it has stayed.
Speaker John Bohner put a few of the highlights onto a timeline along with gas prices. Cause and effect:
What about that record amount of oil production? From Tina Korbe:
Energy experts say the president’s rhetoric isn’t exactly forthright. It’s unfair for the president to take credit for record high oil production. Not only does it take oil three to five years to come online, which means the previous administration was responsible for approving the exploration and drilling permits that led to increased production, but oil production on federal lands actually declined from 2010 to 2011. Oil production on private lands is responsible for the increase.
She quotes CNS for the specifics:
As CNSNews.com has reported, oil production on federal lands declined in fiscal year 2011 from fiscal year 2010 by 11 percent, and natural gas production on federal lands dropped by 6 percent during the same timeframe.
In contrast, oil production on private and state lands accounted for the entire increase, reported the IER, as production was up 14 percent from 2010 to 2011. Natural gas also was up 12 percent from 2010 to 2011.
The energy boom from advances in fracking technology are so massive that Obama has not been able to suppress them entirely, but he sure is trying, and we know why. Energy Secretary Stephen Chu was up-front about this as recently as two weeks ago when he testified before the House Appropriations committee:
“Is the overall goal to get our price [of gasoline] down,” Nunnelee began. “No,” interrupted Chu, “the overall goal is to decrease our dependency on oil, to build and strengthen our economy.”
Chu’s goal is less oil consumption, which of course requires higher prices, “to strengthen our economy.” (Note that Chu is a physicist, not an economist.) Chu has been saying for years that:
Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.
That’s $7 to $9 per gallon. Under duress he recanted last week and said that he no longer wants higher prices, but that just stripped away his last remaining virtue, which was his honesty.
Lie number 2: that America is energy poor, so there is not much we can gain by drilling anyway
Someone who knows absolute nothing about anything might find this Obama riff compelling:
There’s a problem with a strategy that only relies on drilling and that is, America uses more than 20 percent of the world’s oil. If we drilled every square inch of this country — so we went to your house and we went to the National Mall and we put up those rigs everywhere — we’d still have only 2 percent of the world’s known oil reserves. Let’s say we miss something — maybe it’s 3 percent instead of 2. We’re using 20; we have 2.
Now, you don’t need to be getting an excellent education at Prince George’s Community College to know that we’ve got a math problem here. (Laughter and applause.) I help out Sasha occasionally with her math homework and I know that if you’ve got 2 and you’ve got 20, there’s a gap. (Laughter.) There’s a gap, right? …
We will not fully be in control of our energy future if our strategy is only to drill for the 2 percent but we still have to buy the 20 percent.
Obama’s 2% figure refers to “proven reserves,” and the smallness of this particular number is actually a measure, not of our resources, but of how little they have been developed. Investors Business Daily explains:
The U.S. has 22.3 billion barrels of proved reserves, a little less than 2% of the entire world’s proved reserves, according to the Energy Information Administration. But as the EIA explains, proved reserves “are a small subset of recoverable resources,” because they only count oil that companies are currently drilling for in existing fields.
We have very little “proved reserves” because we have developed only a small fraction of our resources into active fields. The relevant number to look at is the amount of oil we could produce if it were allowed, and here we are proverbial thousand pound gorilla. Again, from IDB:
We actually have the world’s largest fossil energy resources, and the “recoverable” part is rapidly expanding as the technology for extracting it advances. Estimates for technically recoverable shale gas reserves increased 134% in 2010, and we’ve hardly begun on shale oil. Then there are methane hydrates, which according to the Department of Energy contain “more energy potential … than all other fossil energy resources combined.”
In short, the United States, and the entire world, have only been tapping the planet’s most easily accessible fossil energy supplies, and even those are far from running out, while vastly larger resources wait in store. Obama’s claims about the impossibility of relying on fossil energy are a fairy tale for childish green adults who want to see themselves as saving the planet. They dream of going “forward” to windmills and absorbing solar radiation like a snake on a rock, yet none of them have enough confidence in the saving-the-planet part to even mention it anymore.
The war on CO2 is over! Tell the EPA!
Obama’s lies about fossil resources are just supporting lies. His big lie is his pretense that his anti-CO2 policies are not about CO2. So take him at face value. He has apparently surrendered his claim that CO2 is dangerous. From his energy-policy speech, it seems that global warming is no longer a motivating concern.
THAT is a big story. Quick, tell the EPA. With this change in the administration’s position there should be no more regulation of CO2 and Obama should rescind his promise to bankrupt the coal industry:
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.
That war against coal is proceeding apace, every bit as much as Obama’s drive for higher gas prices. And all for nothing, since even Obama is no longer worried about CO2.
At some point—long before we run out of fossil energy—a cheaper source of energy will be developed and fossil fuels will go by the wayside. The only reason to interdict that natural progression and try to go backwards to wind and solar is a belief that fossil fuels imperil the planet. For that to be true, human effects on climate would have to dominate natural effects, a hypothesis that has already been falsified by 15 years of no warming. The only people who believe it at this point are the paid shills of our lavishly funded climate-alarm industry and their anti-capitalist allies. It has actually become unmentionable, which really does warrant some mention.
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Solar works for PG&E households in California. Granted that the Federal Tax Credit of 30% is required to get it there, but homeowners who install solar pay less per kWh than they would to PG&E, and if you calculate over the total lifespan of the system it beats PG&E even without the tax credit.
Alec Rawls says:
March 20, 2012 at 6:54 pm
“Torgeir: Ordering me not to call you “names” while continuing to call me “childish.” You really are a piece of work, still insisting that it is perfectly a-okay for you to completely mis-represent what I am saying about Obama and Chu. You find it convenient to pretend that I present their motive as the ruination of the country and that’s supposed to make it okay. So you’re not nasty? Then stop trying to defend the indefensible.”
Can we drop it? If you say you don’t believe that Obama and Chu are trying to drag us into wreck and ruin, I believe you.
And if you understand the depletion issue you know that demand or services has to keep growing faster than the production level increase. Sorry but the math is simple and you cannot escape the consequences.
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LOL!!! And if you understood that Moore’s law doesn’t simply apply to integrated circuits, you’d have a better grasp of the math. Yes, there is a finite amount of energy we can dig up….. no, we haven’t found half of it, yet. Yes, we always innovate better ways of finding it and getting it and using it.
And then finally, likely thousands of years from now, when we’ve finally caught up with that nuclear reactor in the center of the earth, we’ll realize that we can’t spend energy.
There is nothing to fear in terms of energy utilization, other than ignorance.
Hansson, as Alec says, you are a piece of work. His verbatim quote was: “You find it convenient to pretend that I present their motive as the ruination of the country and that’s supposed to make it okay.”
Note the “and”, word-game player.
Funny thing – the Globe and Mail was one of the biggest supporters of the Global Warming Scam and so-called “Green Energy”.
Note the huge subsidies:
13.5¢/kWh for worthless wind power and 64.2¢/kWh for worthless solar power.
Natural gas-fired electric power can probably be generated today for about 4 cents per kWh.
Attaboy Doltan! Way to screw the Ontario manufacturing industry!
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Ontario’s Green Dream Was Just a Fantasy
Across the countryside outside Toronto, wind turbines are spreading like the plague. They are being built over the objections of rural residents whose rights are being ignored by the Province of Ontario. They’re chewing up birds and billions of taxpayer dollars in the name of a green dream that’s nothing but a fantasy. In an effort to placate the voters, Premier Dalton McGuinty promises to trim the subsidies for solar and wind and to give rural communities more say.
However, these changes won’t affect contracts already in place. That means projects already approved, but not built, will be eligible to get 13.5¢/kWh for wind and 64.2¢/kWh for solar, keeping the building boom going for the next three or four years.
Green energy was supposed to launch a vast new industry in Ontario with the export of products and expertise to the world. But the world is losing interest. Instead the next energy boom, and the resulting jobs, will be due to brown energy in the form of low-cost natural gas.
Torgein says:
Certainly we can drop it. I have no idea why you ever started it, or insisted on insulting me when I pointed out your misrepresentation of what I had said.
Your latest misrepresentation calls for correction too. I didn’t say anything about what I believe Obama’s and Chu’s motivations to be. I only quoted what they have SAID about their motivations. Both have claimed that they want high energy prices in order to save the world from too much greenhouse gas (i.e. global warming).
With Chu, I take that at face value. Obama is a much more mysterious figure. Virtually every one of his long-time mentors and confidants is an outright racist, communist or Islamic supremacist, so who knows what actually motivates him, but it is certainly possible that he buys the global warming claptrap and honestly believes that making energy prices “necessarily skyrocket” is the way to save the planet.
Hiya, Torgeir.
Reference my reply at http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/03/19/president-no-longer-worried-about-co2-focus-on-alternative-energy-is-economic-says-obama-no-mention-of-climate/#comment-929353 — still waiting for you to point out to me where Obie *didn’t* put a stop to offshore drilling…
Torgeir Hansson says:
March 20, 2012 at 1:43 am
By the way, if anyone is atavistic, it is you. You seem to summon up a Viking-kind of temper when I make reference to “Barack the Usurper.” But the fact is that he has been usurping a lot of legislative power, and expanding his own executive powers to the point of breakage, to do things that others actually have responsibility for under the U.S. Constitution. That would make him quite comparable to many of the failed kings and tyrants of the past as well as the present. You are as blind as a bat if you haven’t noticed. Or is it that Scandinavian trait for complete submission to authority that brings out the worst in you?
And by the way, in the past 40 years, Democrats have had majority control (or at least control of one house or another) of the Congress of the United States 28 of those 40 years, and are responsible for creating most of the environmental and economic legislation (from financial reform to health care to Social Security to Medicare to soup to nuts) that results now in the hampering of both our ability to drill for oil and our ability to remain economically successful. So I wouldn’t be so fast to pin the tail on the elephant. It still belongs to the donkey for the most part, even with the dumb things that Republicans have done to enable the addicts on the Democratic side.
Your snide remarks about “thanks for playing” are simply further proof that you are nothing but a dunderheaded ideologue that has little regard for what is going on around you. So you are quite welcome; fencing with you has been a barrel of laughs.
Obama stopped pushing Global Warming when he got laughed at in a speech or three. Doesn’t mean he’s not drinking the cool-aid though, just not saying it out loud.
Per the “energy in vs out” argument: That is based on a fallacy or two. If I need motor fuel and have electricity, it’s a fair trade to use an electric pump to lift oil even at a net energy loss. I will lose more charging and discharging batteries in my e-car, so it’s better to lift oil and burn it in a combustion engine. Also, realize that such things as refining are net energy consumers, yet we do it, as the FORM of the energy is more important. Then there’s the fact that you are predicting no improvement in technology when you assume a given ‘energy cost to lift’. The history of the last 50 years is one of secondary, then tertiary oil recover from “spent” fields as new techniques made them economical again.
Take shale oil, for example. Canada has a load of “stranded natural gas”. Needs pipelines to get it to market (where it will sell for ‘nearly nothing’ as cheap gas has driven cost down from $12 / unit to near $3 / unit). OR, it can be used to extract oil to make gasoline and Diesel and jet fuel that are all worth much much more. As Nat Gas is presently running about 1/3 the cost per Gallon of Gas Equivalent, I really don’t care if I burn 2 GGE of it to get one gallon of real gas.
Yes, you could build natural gas pipelines (oh, wait, Obama keeps canceling pipelines…) and pay a couple of $Thousand per car to convert them to run on natural gas (and, BTW, use about 1/4 of the energy in the gas to compress it to high pressures in the tanks in the cars…) but it is MORE ECONOMICAL and a good idea to use it to make gasoline instead.
There simply is NO energy shortage. Not a bit.
FWIW, if Obama really wanted energy independence, we’d be making Natural Gas To Liquids and Coal To Liquids facilities at full speed. South Africa makes coal into gasoline, Diesel, Jet-fuel, and chemicals and has since the 1970s. It’s all “Off The Shelf” turnkey technology. Just sign the contracts. (i.e. have ALL Federal purchases state “Only US made synthetic fuels from GTL and CTL approved to buy.)
@Gail Combs
AH! Maybe that is another reason for the land grab going on in Africa right now. I just thought it was food, but now that I think about it, valuable resources under the land are another very good reason especially when there are absolutely no environmental laws to worry about.
The African Land Grab
African Land Grab – “Acres for a bottle of Scotch”
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So things don’t change! I have several stories collected from the late Peter “Mabhodweni” Forbes about how Swaziland ended up the little country it is now. Their territory used to be 3 times larger before incompetence, alcohol and avarice hemmed it into its present 7000 sq mi. There is an old Swazi royal residence near Springs on the eastern end of Johannesburg. Of course, not everything was peace and calm even back then. The Swazis were feared slave catchers who sold their neighbours to the Arabs and Portuguese in Maputo. As they say, no one is innocent.
Question: as the desert north of the Sahel has been retreating north rapidly, who is grabbing that land? Is that the reason the Tuaregs are managing so much better with their plan to separate a Saharan state from the desert portions 6 countries, a region that climate improvement has made so much more liveable? They are one of the last ‘national groups’ that have widespread slaveholding. For example, their handicrafts are made by slaves. They are ‘managers’. People forget why there is so much fighting in Africa. You can still buy a captured South Sudan young woman in the slave market in Khartoum for $10-$20.
Vangelv,
So who am I to believe on oil shale, you or Morgan Stanley:
BEHOLD, The Massive Sea Change Happening In The American Energy Industry
Joe Weisenthal | May 30, 2011, 7:48 AM
A new report out from Morgan Stanley on the “renaissance” of the American oil industry argues that — contra the natural gas bulls — the future of American domestic energy production lies in oil.
Specifically, they argue that technological innovation is now allowing for oil extraction from previously un-economical shale deposits. This is game changing.
The report is huge, but these four charts really stand out.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-future-of-the-american-oil-industry-2011-5#ixzz1NtD5ZO1A
The problem with folks like you and those over at the Oil Drum is that all of you pretend the Cost Concept doesn’t exist.
The Cost Concept in a nutshell: as the price of a mineral rises, the increased price allows for affordable production of previously-uneconomical but known resources. For oil that means drilling
deeper, in more hostile areas, having secondary and tertiary recovery become practical (something you didn’t know: more oil has been left in previously-primary-produced reservoirs than has ever been extracted from them), and having oil shale, coal gasification, tar sands, and other
alternate sources suddenly become practical as well.
Commodity cost competition will then foster technological innovation which further that lowers the price of extraction at those hostile known areas or alternate technologies.
This is what an oil industry Fracker told me recently:
Fracing technology has come very far in a short time. We used to drill a long lateral and put just a few fracs in it. Our last well had 35 fracs, used 5 million gallons of water (there are a little over 325,000 gallons of water in an acre foot, which is the volume necessary to cover an acre in one foot of water), and we used a little over 4 million pounds of sand. Environmental damage? None. Noise? During those fracs it’s loud, like jet engines almost. We’ve adopted a lot of the Bakken fracing technology for our (snip) fracs, and we have superior porosity in the rock to what they have in those shales.
Plus, the Cost Concept also affects unknown resources. For instance, now we can finally afford to drill deep. No one knows what deep reserves exist in mature basins like the Gulf Coast BECAUSE NO ONE HAS EVER DRILLED FOR THEM. Why? It cost too much.
But now?
Likewise it’s time to open up both coasts and Alaska and tell the Green/Warmist rent seekers to pound sand…Tar Sands!
Vangelv, So who am I to believe on oil shale, you or Morgan Stanley…
I think that you should ‘believe’ the 10-K filings with the SEC. It is hard to support the MS claims by looking at the balance sheets and the cash flow statements of the shale gas and oil producers. If MS were correct you would expect the producers who have been at it for years to be able to self finance. The fact that they can’t should be a red flag.
And if the actual facts are not sufficient to rid you of your ‘belief’ then I suggest that you look to the housing and tech bubbles and see what MS and the other brokers said about them. If you do you will find them being cheerleaders even after the bubbles popped and reality was evident to all but the most ignorant and illogical. Given that track record why would you believe what MS is saying rather than looking at the actual filings?
Crispin still in Johannesburg says:
March 21, 2012 at 1:54 am
…Is that the reason the Tuaregs are managing so much better with their plan to separate a Saharan state from the desert portions 6 countries, a region that climate improvement has made so much more liveable? They are one of the last ‘national groups’ that have widespread slaveholding. For example, their handicrafts are made by slaves. They are ‘managers’. People forget why there is so much fighting in Africa. You can still buy a captured South Sudan young woman in the slave market in Khartoum for $10-$20.
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Try telling that to the blacks in the USA who are adopting Islam. Try telling them they are aligning themselves with the slave traders. At least the Wiki article on the Tuaregs admits they may still practice slavery. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuareg_people#Bonded_castes_and_slaves
For some reason Americans seem to believe slavery is dead in the world even though it is still practiced here in the USA. On occasion you will run across an article about it. The last one I saw was about a corporation in Florida that enticed immigrants from India and then held them captive in a compound. One managed to escape and flee to a nearby church. Luckily the Pastor he found believed him. (Can’t find the link anymore)
So why should anyone care about the fate of family farms around the world? Lenin, founder of the Russian revolution said it best.
“The Socialist Revolution in the US cannot take place because there are too many small independent farmers there. Those people are the stability factor. We here in Russia must hurry while our government is stupid enough to not encourage and support the independent farmership.” V. Lenin, the founder of the Russian revolution
Quote provided by Anna Fisher
The USA has had it’s farmers deliberately forced off their land starting in 1945. The reprecussions are seen thoughout US society today. Nicole does a good job of researching this: http://www.opednews.com/articles/History-HACCP-and-the-Foo-by-Nicole-Johnson-090906-229.html
The World Trade Organization’s Agreement on Agriculture, the OIE “Good Farming Practices” and FAO “Good Agricultural Practices” Show the United Nations and WTO are taking aim at our privately owned food supply and that scares me.
Peak Gold ??
“Posted by Heading Out on November 14, 2009 – 10:16am
“Topic: Supply/Production
“Tags: gold [list all tags]
“Yesterday the President of the largest gold mining and production company, Barrick Gold, noted that after ten years of declining production it is time to recognize that the world has seen the peak in gold production. To maintain production ore is being mined with increasingly less gold in it.”
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/5960
Of course, this could be viewed as a stratagem to increase the value of their stock…
What more can be said. The proverbial bogie man for the moment is Obama. Then his term is up then it will be [insert name here] Please…people grow up and hold this current civilization accountable for the state it’s in. Clearly it’s unsustainable the way it is now.
The best answer it what I found is posted here.
http://thumbwind.com/2012/03/01/why-pursue-wind-energy-now/
ThumbWind
Another leftist telling people to grow up. Are these accusations of childishness particularly effective over at Huffpo or something?
Anyway, I have an interest in eco-propaganda videos so I checked out thumb-twiddlers. Wow is that some world class stupid.
Not bad on the energy stuff (the first half) but at the 17 minute mark it starts on what it casts as the great destroyer: economic growth. Unfortunately, these idiots don’t even know what economic growth IS.
A doubling of GNP is not a doubling of STUFF. It is a doubling of VALUE. In particular, we are always learning to do more with less. Economic growth is not the road into a dead end, as this idiot video depicts, but is the reason there will not be a dead end, unless these anti-capitalist anti-growth leftists get their way.
At the end the video advocates going back to pre-industrial living and opting out of the economy. WTF? I sure hope they aren’t showing this garbage in schools, but the thumb-twiddler claims otherwise.
ThumbWind says:
March 21, 2012 at 2:55 pm
….The best answer it what I found is posted here.
http://thumbwind.com/2012/03/01/why-pursue-wind-energy-now/
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And I was thinking of putting in alternate energy on my farm and found the best answer is here: http://www.windpowerfraud.com/
Of all the ideas I looked at Horizontal Loop Geothermal heating/cooling was the only one that makes sense aside from thorium nuclear. http://www.dougrye.com/geothermal-heat-pumps-101.html
As soon as Thorium Mini-nuclear power plants become available I will be out campaigning the neighborhood to get our coop to install one!
The article is worth a read.
Every article posted by Alec Rawls here diminishes the credibility of WUWT. A shame to sully this fine website with his constant stream of garbage.
And yet, Conrad cannot put forward an actual logical criticism.
I would only engage in rational disputation with credible posters. You are not such a person.
And yet you cannot come up with anything I have said that is not credible. I don’t think you can. I don’t think you have any capacity to discern what is credible or not, and if you attempt it, that incapacity will be exposed.
Dude, the fact that you can’t accept someone’s opinion of you and move on just shows how insecure you are. I think you actually know how lacking in credibility you are, and as a result have a giant chip on your shoulder. Show some introspection and ask yourself why you present yourself like this, not just to me, but to anyone who points out your obvious failing. My comment wasn’t even directed at you, but to Anthony as feedback for his website. You’re beyond reclamation, but Anthony is not. He makes mistakes and learns from them. I don’t ever expect you to admit to having made any mistakes at all, and won’t waste my time pointing them out.
I have so many obvious failings, yet Conrad says it would be a drain on his time to point out anything I have said that he can actually contest. Quite clearly Conrad has no actual substantive criticism in mind, or he would state it, like other people do.
It’s such fun to watch you flail about to no purpose, why spoil things with anything more substantive? Nor is it even necessary to demonstrate my point. You keep doing that all on your own, and fail to see the absurdity of your efforts. Ask yourself why you even care what I think of you? Show some dignity at the very least.
The pointless ad hominems do not become either of you or this site. It adds nothing to the discussion.
Gail: I haven’t said anything ad hominem about Conrad. I just suggested that if he had a substantive criticism he would make it. Was I not gentle enough in my prodding?
It actually is to a point. I figure the guy’s a concern troll. You know, those people who pretend to be conservatives or skeptics or whatever and say how dismayed they are about the direction that actual conservatives or skeptics are taking.
Since they don’t actually know the subject, they can’t articulate any substantive criticisms. That certainly fits Conradg. If he is a concern troll, I think its worth a little effort to out him.
And Conrad, if you are not a concern troll, it ought to bother you at least a little bit that you act exactly like one.