AGU Encourages Integrity in all Aspects of Climate Change Discourse
Scholarly Society Rejects Deception Regarding Heartland Institute Documents
February 21, 2012
AGU Release No. 12-11
For Immediate Release
In response to a blog post late yesterday, 20 February 2012, by Dr. Peter Gleick regarding documents purportedly from the Heartland Institute which he disseminated, AGU President Michael McPhaden issued the following statement:
“AGU is disappointed that Dr. Gleick acted in a way that is inconsistent with our organization’s values. AGU expects its members to adhere to the highest standards of scientific integrity in their research and in their interactions with colleagues and the public. Among the core values articulated in AGU’s Strategic Plan are ‘excellence and integrity in everything we do.’ The vast majority of scientists share and live by these values.
“AGU will continue to uphold these values and encourage scientists to embrace them in order to remain deserving of the public trust. While this incident is regrettable, it should not obscure the fact that climate change is occurring or interfere with substantive scientific discourse regarding climate change.”
On Thursday, 16 February, prior to his blog post, Dr. Gleick resigned as chair of AGU’s Task Force on Scientific Ethics, which first convened in November 2011. In his resignation, he cited “personal, private reasons” and expressed concern that he would not be able to fulfill his responsibilities as chair. His resignation was accepted.
Following Dr. Gleick’s resignation, a search began immediately for a replacement. Effective today, 21 February, the new chair of AGU’s Task Force on Scientific Integrity is Linda Gundersen, Director, Office of Science Quality and Integrity, USGS (U.S. Geological Survey).
The American Geophysical Union is a not-for-profit society of Earth and space scientists with more than 61,000 members in 146 countries. Established in 1919 and headquartered in Washington, D.C., AGU advances the Earth and space sciences through its scholarly publications, meetings, and outreach programs. For more information, visit www.agu.org.
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jaymam says:
February 21, 2012 at 6:09 pm
“There are 61,000 Earth and space scientists? Are they doing anything useful, and who pays them? The salary bill must be billions of dollars.”
Ever heard of that thing called companies?
A little late in asking, but obvious knowing Heartland…
What exactly was Gleick trying to find out that Heartland wouldn’t have told him if he’d simply asked?
Frederick Michael says:
February 21, 2012 at 4:40 pm
“The real story here is that the phrase “dissuading teachers from teaching science” didn’t leave Gleick rolling on the floor laughing. It’s obviously a childish caricature of the skeptics position. We don’t know if he’s so stupid that he actually wrote that phrase, but we do know that he’s not smart enough to laugh at it. My God, he can’t really believe those words, can he?”
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Of course he can. If he’s used to lying in pursuit of what he thinks of as a noble advocacy, then he probably thinks everybody else does, too. He can’t conceive that Heartland Institute isn’t being disingenuous quite likely because *he* is so used to doing it himself. To him “dissuading teachers from teaching science” is obviously what the other side does since he’s part of community that does that routinely: says one thing to the public, but behind closed doors advances a more sinister, secret agenda.
“Cojnsistent” == “stonewall”
‘On Thursday, 16 February, prior to his blog post, Dr. Gleick resigned as chair of AGU’s Task Force on Scientific Ethics, which first convened in November 2011.’
What, four months after they first convened their ethics it resulted in ‘Fakegate’. Lord help them. Imagine the behavior that will be displayed by the ethics committed as time progresses.
“…it should not obscure the fact that climate change is occurring…” and has been for ~4.6 billion years, as any organization with geo in its name should recognize. So what else is new?
hahahahaha – “climate change is occurring”
Well, no one is skeptical of that!!
I do enjoy seeing the whole religion collapse with this meaningless statement and then imply there are skeptics that don’t agree with this. Don’t they realize the logical absurdity of this?
The only thing inconsistent with this organization’s values (and in which they’re VERY disappointed) is that the dude got caught. They’ve been on the wrong side of the science for decades–as long and I’ve been reading about this whole “climate science” meme.
And for that reason (considering what Taphonomic says about the Earth’s climate having been changing for the past ~4.6 billion years), every one of these people should be required to take a fully curriculum in geology (althogh admitted it didn’t Michael Mann any good–but considering his ego, nothing would have).
psion (@psion) says:
February 21, 2012 at 6:45 pm
If he’s used to lying in pursuit of what he thinks of as a noble advocacy, then he probably thinks everybody else does, too.
I agree that “projection” is a reasonable hypothesis, but it leads to a conundrum here. If Gleick knows he’s a liar and projects that the other side is lying too, what does he really believe about climate change? We can’t all be wrong.
In Magoo’s WSJ video link, Bast says they had the request for documents from Gleick impersonating a board member three weeks ago (that would be approximately the 1st of February). Do we know when Heartland actually sent them? Gleick could have had the genuine documents for up to two weeks before releasing them along with the “Strategy” document on the 14th, depending on how timely the Institute responded.
The Gleick Fully Automatic Foot Gun (smoking). The preferred weapon of certain (inter)government agencies. It only takes one bullet, but that’s enough.
“disappointed” = code word for “too bad we (he) got caught”.
Cognitive dissonance is rampant and raging today!
I would say that the entire staff involved in so called “climate change” or “Global warming” in any of the Scientific Organizations AAAS, AGU etc and Climate Editors of Scientific Journals such as Nature etc invoved in the AGW scam should be immediately fired and/or replaced
Wow that is lame. If he was a P. Eng engineer he would have lost his license and would have to face a disciplinary board. Surely the AGU would simply cancel Peter’s membership or does the AGU also have no ethics at all?
The truth is ” the other guy is doing this so we have to do it” is probably he justification of every evil person in the history of mankind has used to convince himself what he was doing was right. Nobody sees themselves as evil yet they rapidly ascribe to evil and become evil on the justification the opposition is evil.
The memo should serve as a historic example of that kind of thinking. All the evil insinuations. Somebody said it correctly you only see this kind of evil playing out among the bad guys in Batman comics. A complete divorce from reality.
I became an auditor of corporations and held the suspicions of evil corporate intent going in. Boy was I wrong. I found corporations populated with some of the best meaning people in the world. If you can accuse corporations of anything in a stereotypical way its they are like out of control robots. Nobody is really in complete control so they often seem terribly impersonal. But beyond that almost all of them are like your local storekeeper trying to make a good honest living. Surely some fall into this trap that Gleick fell into thinking you have to do more than be honest and get tricky. And thats when all of them get in trouble. Corporations do that less seldom than individuals like we are seeing in this climate political environment. What is this the 3rd or 4th or 5th “gate”? I have lost count! First you have the Saul Alinsky horrible set of morality standards, immoral to the core, and a lot of people advocating them strongly.
Corporations have attorneys and accountants and human relation professionals a list as long as your arm who have been trained in ethics in rich programs of business schools and law schools and they know the difference between right and wrong and that helps keep them on track because the truth is most people try to be honest.
Gleick has it so very wrong about these corporations. Its always possible to be right on an environmental issue or be wrong whether a corporation or just a guy with smoking car. What is right for the environment has been changing a lot over the past 40 years and some people keep up and others do not. But evil intent? Not hardly! And that more than anything that makes this forgery so obvious and makes Gleick who signed the memo by using the email address heartlandinsider as evidence of guilt that he was also the forger; moreso than a slow speed white bronco chase, gun in hand, could ever do. Its not like he thought that the poor guy who he claims sent him memo sent it to the wrong address and he decided to help the hapless guy get it sent to the right addresses and he did it by deciding to assume the forger’s identity. Hope not on your life is that how it came down. There never was a Heartland insider just a single Heartland deceiver. And that guy had been busted in the first place because it was his writing style on the memo. Not a chance is there a different story here.
I happened to look at the information on the Pacific Institute Web Site and I realized the Heartland Institute Budget for global warming projects was actually much less than Peter Gleick’s budget.
http://www.pacinst.org/about_us/financial_information/10%20Audit.pdf
Check page2 and the total revenue was 2.3 million in 2010.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/02/leaked-docs-from-heartland-institute-cause-a-stir-but-is-one-a-fake/253165/
Global warming projects 2010: $964,000 and 2011: $629,000.
Mr. Gleick must have sorely disappointed to find he was being harassed by paupers.
Mark W says: So is Gleick chairing an ethics committee like Iran chairing a human rights committee?
Not quite the Human Rights Committee, but close: Iran Elected to UN Commission on Women
by Valerie Richardson, 05/07/2010
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=36878
The United Nations’ flair for the ironic was on full display last week when its members elected Iran to the U.N. Commission on the Status of Women.
And:
http://www.eyeontheun.org/un-authority-figures.asp
U.N. General Assembly Vice-President: Iran, Term begins September 13, 2011
Not necessarily. If the audience is composed significantly of extremists who think the Holocaust is wildly overstated and the opposing debater is someone like David Irving, for example, then winning that argument would be in the mind of the beholder. And it would be a deeply unpleasant experience and not at all ‘easy’. Winning a debate like that is not at all like winning a democratic consensus.
In a court where one must prove each statement submitted as to provenance, relevancy and accuracy, Irving came massively unstuck as his sources and his scholarship came under unremitting examination (see http://hdot.org for an overview and the transcripts)
For that reason, a large part of the Hockey Team’s efforts are on defaming their opponents as stooges or incompetent or unethical and trying to get them defunded or fired or both. Peter Gleick’s efforts are solidly a part of that strategy.
I do not believe he acted alone. As with Michael Mann’s recent book being sold on Amazon.com, Gleick and others acted in concert to give Mann’s book a five star boost with lots of disparagement to Mann’s opponents. On another occasion Gleick and others used the same flash mob tactic against Donna Laframboise’s book.
I think Heartland should subpoena Gleick’s email accounts.
AGU,
I’m not a scientists. I’m an accountant (CPA). My profession had a scandal known as Enron. We had to cleanup our profession.
Prove it to me that you have the integrity to cleanup your profession and organization.
“The message is now more important that science?”
THAT science?
And I see lots of use of the word ‘where’ instead of ‘were’ in some comments.
I said ‘“Cojnsistent” == “stonewall”’ while I wish I had said ‘“Consistent” == “stonewall”’ which might have meant something at the time. But I discovered that error on my way here to say something else–’tis a shame I did say what [sfx=fingers drumming]…..[/sfx]
Oh. Yeah. Somebody (John A ?) quoted somebody else as saying
To which I say “nonsense”. I find arguing with a religionist whose brain has completely ossified (or frozen) to be a waste of time and good will. Somebody famous should have said that like a bear trap, a mind has to be open to do any good.
I have personal experience with people who are genuinely brilliant in other areas (including some that make one think that, for them, AGW devotion would be somewhere between “terribly unlikely” and “impossible”) who genuflect like our President before our enemies.
“While this incident is regrettable, it should not obscure the fact that climate change is occurring…”
Can someone remind me when climate didn’t change?