Unified Theory of Climate: Reply to Comments

Foreword – I’ve had this document since January 17th, and it has taken some time to get it properly reproduced here in full due to formatting issues. Some equations have to be converted to images, and I have to double check every superscript, subscript, and symbol for accuracy, then re-insert/re-format many manually since they often don’t reproduce properly in WordPress. WordPress doesn’t manage copy/paste of complex documents well. I hope that I have everything correctly reproduced, if not, please leave a note. A PDF of the original is here: UTC_Blog_Reply_Part1 This is a contentious issue, and while it would be a wonderful revelation if it were proven to be true, I personally cannot see any way it can surmount the law of conservation of energy. That view is shared by others, noted in the opening paragraph below. However, I’m providing this for the educational value it may bring to those who can take it all in and discuss it rationally, with a caution – because this issue is so contentious, I ask readers to self-moderate so that the WUWT moderation team does not have to be heavy handed. I invite you take it all in, and to come to your own conclusion. Thank you for your consideration. – Anthony

Part 1: Magnitude of the Natural ‘Greenhouse’ Effect

Ned Nikolov, Ph.D. and Karl Zeller, Ph.D.

  1. Introduction

Our recent paper “Unified Theory of Climate: Expanding the Concept of Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect Using Thermodynamic Principles. Implications for Predicting Future Climate Change” spurred intense discussions at WUWT and Tallbloke’s Talkshop websites. Many important questions were raised by bloggers and two online articles by Dr. Ira Glickstein (here) and Dr. Roy Spencer (here). After reading through most responses, it became clear to us that that an expanded explanation is needed. We present our reply in two separate articles that address blog debate foci as well as key aspects of the new paradigm.

Please, consider that understanding this new theory requires a shift in perception! As Albert Einstein once noted, a new paradigm cannot be grasped within the context of an existing mindset; hence, we are constrained by the episteme we are living in. In that light, our concept requires new definitions that may or may not have exact counterparts in the current Greenhouse theory. For example, it is crucial for us to introduce and use the term Atmospheric Thermal Effect (ATE) because: (a) The term Greenhouse Effect (GE) is inherently misleading due to the fact that the free atmosphere, imposing no restriction on convective cooling, does not really work as a closed greenhouse; (b) ATE accurately coveys the physical essence of the phenomenon, which is the temperature boost at the surface due to the presence of atmosphere; (c) Reasoning in terms of ATE vs. GE helps broaden the discussion beyond radiative transfer; and (d) Unlike GE, the term Atmospheric Thermal Effect implies no underlying physical mechanism(s).

We start with the undisputable fact that the atmosphere provides extra warmth to the surface of Earth compared to an airless environment such as on the Moon. This prompts two basic questions: (1) What is the magnitude of this extra warmth, i.e. the size of ATE ? and (2) How does the atmosphere produce it, i.e. what is the physical mechanism of ATE ? In this reply we address the first question, since it appears to be the crux of most people’s difficulty and needs a resolution before proceeding with the rest of the theory (see, for example, Lord Monckton’s WUWT post).

  1. Magnitude of Earth’s Atmospheric Thermal Effect

We maintain that in order to properly evaluate ATE one must compare Earth’s average near-surface temperature to the temperature of a spherical celestial body with no atmosphere at the same distance from the Sun. Note that, we are not presently concerned with the composition or infrared opacity of the atmosphere. Instead, we are simply trying to quantify the overall effect of our atmosphere on the surface thermal environment; hence the comparison with a similarly illuminated airless planet. We will hereafter refer to such planet as an equivalent Planetary Gray Body (PGB).

Since temperature is proportional (linearly related) to the internal kinetic energy of a system, it is theoretically perfectly justifiable to use meanglobal surface temperatures to quantify the ATE. There are two possible indices one could employ for this:

  1. The absolute difference between Earth’s mean temperature (Ts) and that of an equivalent PGB (Tgb), i.e. ATE = TsTgb; or
  1. The ratio of Ts to Tgb. The latter index is particularly attractive, since it normalizes (standardizes) ATE with respect to the top-of-atmosphere (TOA) solar irradiance (So), thus enabling a comparison of ATEs among planets that orbit at various distances from the Sun and receive different amounts of solar radiation. We call this non-dimensional temperature ratio a Near-surface Thermal Enhancement (ATEn) and denote it by NTE = Ts / Tgb. In theory, therefore, NTE should be equal or greater than 1.0 (NTE ≥ 1.0). Please, note that ATEn is a measure of ATE.

It is important to point out that the current GE theory measures ATE not by temperature, but by the amount of absorbed infrared (IR) radiation. Although textbooks often mention that Earth’s surface is 18K-33K warmer than the Moon thanks to the ‘greenhouse effect’ of our atmosphere, in the scientific literature, the actual effect is measured via the amount of outgoing infrared radiation absorbed by the atmosphere (e.g. Stephens et al. 1993; Inamdar & Ramanathan 1997; Ramanathan & Inamdar 2006; Houghton 2009). It is usually calculated as a difference (occasionally a ratio) between the total average infrared flux emanating at the surface and that at the top of the atmosphere. Defined in this way, the average atmospheric GE, according to satellite observations, is between 157 and 161 W m-2 (Ramanathan & Inamdar 2006; Lin et al. 2008; Trenberth et al. 2009). In other words, the current theory uses radiative flux units instead of temperature units to quantify ATE. This approach is based on the preconceived notion that GE works by reducing the rate of surface infrared cooling to space. However, measuring a phenomenon with its presumed cause instead by its manifest effect can be a source of major confusion and error as demonstrated in our study. Hence, we claim that the proper assessment of ATE depends on an accurate estimate of the mean surface temperature of an equivalent PGB (Tgb).

  1. Estimating the Mean Temperature of an Equivalent Planetary Gray Body

There are two approaches to estimate Tgb – a theoretical one based on known physical relationships between temperature and radiation, and an empirical one relying on observations of the Moon as the closest natural gray body to Earth.

According to the Stefan-Boltzmann (SB) law, any physical object with a temperature (T, oK) above the absolute zero emits radiation with an intensity (I, W m-2) that is proportional to the 4th power of the object’s absolute temperature:

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where ϵ is the object’s thermal emissivity/absorptivity (0 ≤ ϵ ≤ 1 ), and σ = 5.6704×10-8 W m-2 K-4 is the SB constant. A theoretical blackbody has ϵ = 1.0, while real solid objects such as rocks usually have ϵ ≈ 0.95. In principle, Eq. (1) allows for an accurate calculation of an object’s equilibrium temperature given the amount of absorbed radiation by the object, i.e.

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The spatially averaged amount of solar radiation absorbed by the Earth-Atmosphere system (Sα ̅̅̅, W m-2) can be accurately computed from TOA solar irradiance (Sα ̅̅̅, W m-2) and planetary albedo (αp) as

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where the TOA shortwave flux (W m-2) incident on a plane perpendicular to the solar rays. The factor ¼ serves to distribute the solar flux incident on a flat surface to a sphere. It arises from the fact that the surface area of a sphere (4πR2) is 4 times larger than the surface area of a disk (πR2) of the same radius (R). Hence, it appears logical that one could estimate Earth’s average temperature in the absence of ATE from using the SB law. i.e.

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Here (TeK) is known as the effective emission temperature of Earth. Employing typical values for S0 =W m-2 and αp = 0.3 and assuming, ϵ  = 1.0 Eq. (3) yields 254.6K. This is the basis for the widely quoted 255K (-18C) mean surface temperature of Earth in the absence of a ‘greenhouse effect’, i.e. if the atmosphere were missing or ‘completely transparent’ to IR radiation. This temperature is also used to define the so-called effective emission height in the troposphere (at about 5 km altitude), where the bulk of Earth’s outgoing long-wave radiation to space is assumed to emanate from. Since Earth’s mean surface temperature is 287.6K (+14.4C), the present theory estimates the size of ATE to be 287.6K – 254.6K = 33K. However, as pointed out by other studies, this approach suffers from a serious logical error. Removing the atmosphere (or even just the water vapor in it) would result in a much lower planetary albedo, since clouds are responsible for most of Earth’s shortwave reflectance. Hence, one must use a different albedo (αp) in Eq. (3) that only quantifies the actual surface reflectance. A recent analysis of Earth’s global energy budget by Trenberth et al. (2009) using satellite observations suggests αp≈ 0.12. Serendipitously, this value is quite similar to the Moon bond albedo of 0.11 (see Table 1 in our original paper), thus allowing evaluation of Earth’s ATE using our natural satellite as a suitable PGB proxy. Inserting= 0.12 in Eq. (3) produces Te = 269.6K, which translates into an ATE of only 18K (i.e. 287.6 – 269.6 = 18K).

In summary, the current GE theory employs a simple form of the SB law to estimate the magnitude of Earth’s ATE between 18K and 33K. The theory further asserts that the Moon average temperature is 250K to 255K despite the fact that using the correct lunar albedo (0.11) in Eq. (3) produces ≈270K, i.e. a15K to 20K higher temperature! Furthermore, the application of Eq. (3) to calculate the mean temperature of a sphere runs into a fundamental mathematical problem caused by Hölder’s inequality between non-linear integrals (e.g. Kuptsov 2001). What does this mean? Hölder’s inequality applies to certain non-linear functions and states that, in such functions, the use of an arithmetic average for the independent (input) variable will not produce a correct mean value of the dependent (output) variable. Hence, due to a non-linear relationship between temperature and radiative flux in the SB law (Eq. 3) and the variation of absorbed radiation with latitude on a spherical surface, one cannot correctly calculate the mean temperature of a unidirectionally illuminated planet from the amount of spatially averaged absorbed radiation defined by Eq. (2). According to Hölder’s inequality, the temperature calculated from Eq. (3) will always be significantly higher than the actual mean temperature of an airless planet. We can illustrate this effect with a simple example.

Let’s consider two points on the surface of a PGB, P1 and P2, located at the exact same latitude (say 45oN) but at opposite longitudes so that, when P1 is fully illuminated, P2 is completely shaded and vice versa (see Fig. 1). If the PGB is orbiting at the same distance from the Sun as Earth and solar rays were the only source of heat to it, then the equilibrium temperature at the illuminated point would be (assuming a solar zenith angle θ = 45o), while the temperature at the shaded point would be T2 = 0 (since it receives no radiation due to cosθ < 0). The mean temperature between the two points is then Tm = (T1 + T2)/2 = 174.8K. However, if we try using the average radiation absorbed by the two points W m-2 to calculate a mean temperature, we obtain = 234.2K. Clearly, Te is much greater than Tm (TeTm), which is a result of Hölder’s inequality.

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Figure 1. Illustration of the effect of Hölder’s inequality on calculating the mean surface temperature of an airless planet. See text for details.

The take-home lesson from the above example is that calculating the actual mean temperature of an airless planet requires explicit integration of the SB law over the planet surface. This implies first taking the 4th root of the absorbed radiative flux at each point on the surface and then averaging the resulting temperature field rather than trying to calculate a mean temperature from a spatially averaged flux as done in Eq. (3).

Thus, we need a new model that is capable of predicting Tgb more robustly than Eq. (3). To derive it, we adopt the following reasoning. The equilibrium temperature at any point on the surface of an airless planet is determined by the incident solar flux, and can be approximated (assuming uniform albedo and ignoring the small heat contributions from tidal forces and interior radioactive decay) as

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where is the solar zenith angle (radian) at point , which is the angle between solar rays and the axis normal to the surface at that point (see Fig. 1). Upon substituting , the planet’s mean temperature () is thus given by the spherical integral of , i.e.

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Comparing the final form of Eq. (5) with Eq. (3) shows that Tgb << Te in accordance with Hölder’s inequality. To make the above expression physically more realistic, we add a small constant Cs =0.0001325 W m-2 to So, so that when So = 0.0, Eq. (5) yields Tgb = 2.72K (the irreducible temperature of Deep Space), i.e:

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In a recent analytical study, Smith (2008) argued that Eq. (5) only describes the mean temperature of a non-rotating planet and that, if axial rotation and thermal capacity of the surface are explicitly accounted for, the average temperature of an airless planet would approach the effective emission temperature. It is beyond the scope of the current article to mathematically prove the fallacy of this argument. However, we will point out that increasing the mean equilibrium temperature of a physical body always requires a net input of extra energy. Adding axial rotation to a stationary planet residing in a vacuum, where there is no friction with the external environment does not provide any additional heat energy to the planet surface. Faster rotation and/or higher thermal inertia of the ground would only facilitate a more efficient spatial distribution of the absorbed solar energy, thus increasing the uniformity of the resulting temperature field across the planet surface, but could not affect the average surface temperature. Hence, Eq. (6) correctly describe (within the assumption of albedo uniformity) the global mean temperature of any airless planet, be it rotating or non-rotating.

Inserting typical values for Earth and Moon into Eq. (6), i.e. So = 1,362 W m-2, αo = 0.11, and ϵ = 0.955, produces Tgb = 154.7K. This estimate is about 100K lower than the conventional black-body temperature derived from Eq. (3) implying that Earth’s ATE (i.e. the GE) is several times larger than currently believed! Such a result, although mathematically justified, requires independent empirical verification due to its profound implications for the current GE theory. As noted earlier, the Moon constitutes an ideal proxy PGB in terms of its location, albedo, and airless environment, against which the thermal effect of Earth’s atmosphere could be accurately assessed. Hence, we now turn our attention to the latest temperature observations of the Moon.

  1. NASA’s Diviner Lunar Radiometer Experiment

In June 2009, NASA launched its Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO), which carries (among other instruments) a Radiometer called Diviner. The purpose of Diviner is to map the temperature of the Moon surface in unprecedented detail employing measurements in 7 IR channels that span wavelengths from 7.6 to 400 μm. Diviner is the first instrument designed to measure the full range of lunar surface temperatures, from the hottest to the coldest. It also includes two solar channels that measure the intensity of reflected solar radiation enabling a mapping of the lunar shortwave albedo as well (for details, see the Diviner Official Website at http://www.diviner.ucla.edu/).

Although the Diviner Experiment is still in progress, most thermal mapping of the Moon surface has been completed and data are available online. Due to time constraints of this article, we did not have a chance to analyze Diviner’s temperature data ourselves. Instead, we elected to rely on information reported by the Diviner Science Team in peer-reviewed publications and at the Diviner website.

Data obtained during the LRO commissioning phase reveal that the Moon has one of the most extreme thermal environments in the solar system. Surface temperatures at low latitudes soar to 390K (+117C) around noon while plummeting to 90-95K (-181C), i.e. almost to the boiling point of liquid oxygen, during the long lunar night (Fig. 2). Remotely sensed temperatures in the equatorial region agree very well with direct measurement conducted on the lunar surface at 26.1o N by the Apollo 15 mission in early 1970s (see Huang 2008). In the polar regions, within permanently shadowed areas of large impact craters, Diviner has measured some of the coldest temperatures ever observed on a celestial body, i.e. down to 25K-35K (-238C to -248C). It is important to note that planetary scientists have developed detailed process-based models of the surface temperatures of Moon and Mercury some 13 years ago (e.g. Vasavada et al. 1999). These models are now being successfully validated against Diviner measurements (Paige et al. 2010b; Dr. M. Siegler at UCLA, personal communication).

What is most interesting to our discussion, however, are the mean temperatures at various lunar latitudes, for these could be compared to temperatures in similar regions on Earth to evaluate the size of ATE and to verify our calculations. Figure 3 depicts typical diurnal courses of surface temperature on the Moon at four latitudes (adopted from Paige et. al 2010a).

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Figure 2. Thermal maps of the Moon surface based on NASA’s Diviner infrared measurements showing daytime maximum and nighttime minimum temperature fields (Source: Diviner Web Site).

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Figure 3. Typical diurnal variations of the Moon surface temperature at various latitudes. Local time is expressed in lunar hours which correspond to 1/24 of a lunar month. At 89◦ latitude, diurnal temperature variations are shown at summer and winter solstices (adopted from Paige et al. 2010a). Dashed lines indicate annual means at the lunar equator and at the poles.

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Figure 4. Temperature maps of the South Pole of the Moon and Earth: (A) Daytime temperature field at peak illumination on the Moon; (B) Nighttime temperature field on the Moon; (C) Mean summer temperatures over Antarctica; (D) Mean winter temperatures over Antarctica. Numbers shown in bold on panels (C) and (D) are temperatures in oK. Panels (A) and (B) are produced by the Diviner Lunar Radiometer Experiment (Paige et al. 2010b). Antarctica maps are from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_climate). Comparison of surface temperatures between Moon’s South Pole and Antarctica suggests a thermal enhancement by the Earth atmosphere (i.e. a ‘Greenhouse Effect’) of about 107K in the summer and 178K in the winter for this part of the Globe.

Figures 4A & 4B display temperature maps of the Moon South Pole during daytime peak illumination and at night (Paige et. al 2010b). Since the Moon has a small obliquity (axial tilt) of only 1.54o and a slow rotation, the average diurnal temperatures are similar to seasonal temperature means. These data along with information posted at the Diviner Science webpage indicate that mean temperature at the lunar-surface ranges from 98K (-175C) at the poles to 206K (-67C) at the equator. This encompasses pretty well our theoretical estimate of 154.7K for the Moon mean global temperature produced by Eq. (6). In the coming months, we will attempt to calculate more precisely Moon’s actual mean temperature from Diviner measurements. Meanwhile, data published by NASA planetary scientists clearly show that the value 250K-255K adopted by the current GE theory as Moon’s average global temperature is grossly exaggerated, since such high temperature means do not occur at any lunar latitude! Even the Moon equator is 44K – 49K cooler than that estimate. This value is inaccurate, because it is the result of an improper application of the SB law to a sphere while assuming the wrong albedo (see discussion in Section 2.1 above)!

Similarly, the mean global temperatures of Mercury (440K) and Mars (210K) reported on the NASA Planetary Fact Sheet are also incorrect, since they have been calculated from the same Eq. (3) used to produce the 255K temperature for the Moon. We urge the reader to verify this claim by applying Eq. (3) with data for solar irradiance (So) and bond albedo (αo) listed on the fact sheet of each planet while setting ϵ = 1. This is the reason that, in our original paper, we used 248.2K for Mercury, since that temperature was obtained from the theoretically correct Eq. (6). For Mars, we adopted means calculated from regional data of near-surface temperature and pressure retrieved by the Radio Science Team at Stanford University employing remote observations by the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft. It is odd to say the least that the author of NASA’s Planetary Fact Sheets, Dr. David R. Williams, has chosen Eq. (3) to calculate Mars’ average surface temperature while ignoring the large body of high-quality direct measurements available for the Red Planet!?

So, what is the real magnitude of Earth’s Atmospheric Thermal Effect?

Table 1. Estimated Atmospheric Thermal Effect for equator and the poles based on observed surface temperatures on Earth and the Moon and using the lunar surface as a proxy for Earth’s theoretical gray body. Data obtained from Diviner’s Science webpage, Paige at al. (2010b), Figure 4, and Wikipedia:Oymyakon.

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Figure 5. Earth’s mean annual near-surface temperature according to Wikipedia (Geographic Zones: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_zone).

Table 1 shows observed mean and record-low surface temperatures at similar latitudes on Earth and on the Moon. The ATE is calculated as a difference between Earth and Moon temperatures assuming that the Moon represents a perfect PGB proxy for Earth. Figure 5 displays a global map of Earth’s mean annual surface temperatures to help the reader visually verify some of the values listed in Table 1. The results of the comparison can be summarized as follows:

The Atmospheric Thermal Effect, presently known as the natural Greenhouse Effect, varies from 93K at the equator to about 150K at the poles (the latter number represents an average between North- and South- Pole ATE mean values, i.e. (158+143)/2 =150.5. This range encompasses quite well our theoretical estimate of 133K for the Earth’s overall ATE derived from Eq. (6), i.e. 287.6K – 154.7K = 132.9K.

Of course, further analysis of the Diviner data is needed to derive a more precise estimate of Moon’s mean surface temperature and verify our model prediction. However, given the published Moon measurements, it is clear that the widely quoted value of 33K for Earth’s mean ATE (GE) is profoundly misleading and wrong!

  1. Conclusion

We have shown that the SB Law relating radiation intensity to temperature (Eq. 1 & 3) has been incorrectly applied in the past to predict mean surface temperatures of celestial bodies including Mars, Mercury, and the Moon. Due to Hölder’s inequality between non-linear integrals, the effective emission temperature computed from Eq. (3) is always significantly higher than the actual (arithmetic) mean temperature of an airless planet. This makes the planetary emission temperature Te produced by Eq. (3) physically incompatible with any real measured temperatures on Earth’s surface or in the atmosphere. By using a proper integration of the SB Law over a sphere, we derived a new formula (Eq. 6) for estimating the average temperature of a planetary gray body (subject to some assumptions). We then compared the Moon mean temperature predicted by this formula to recent thermal observations and detailed energy budget calculation of the lunar surface conducted by the NASA Diviner Radiometer Experiment. Results indicate that Moon’s average temperature is likely very close to the estimate produced by our Eq. (6). At the same time, Moon measurements also show that the current estimate of 255K for the lunar average surface temperature widely used in climate science is unrealistically high; hence, further demonstrating the inadequacy of Eq. (3). The main result from the Earth-Moon comparison (assuming the Moon is a perfect gray-body proxy of Earth) is that the Earth’s ATE, also known as natural Greenhouse Effect, is 3 to 7 times larger than currently assumed. In other words, the current GE theory underestimates the extra atmospheric warmth by about 100K! In terms of relative thermal enhancement, the ATE translates into NTE = 287.6/154.7 = 1.86.

This finding invites the question: How could such a huge (> 80%) thermal enhancement be the result of a handful of IR-absorbing gases that collectively amount to less than 0.5% of total atmospheric mass? We recall from our earlier discussion that, according to observations, the atmosphere only absorbs 157 – 161 W m-2 long-wave radiation from the surface. Can this small flux increase the temperature of the lower troposphere by more than 100K compared to an airless environment? The answer obviously is that the observed temperature boost near the surface cannot be possibly due to that atmospheric IR absorption! Hence, the evidence suggests that the lower troposphere contains much more kinetic energy than radiative transfer alone can account for! The thermodynamics of the atmosphere is governed by the Gas Law, which states that the internal kinetic energy and temperature of a gas mixture is also a function of pressure (among other things, of course). In the case of an isobaric process, where pressure is constant and independent of temperature such as the one operating at the Earth surface, it is the physical force of atmospheric pressure that can only fully explain the observed near-surface thermal enhancement (NTE). But that is the topic of our next paper… Stay tuned!

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January 23, 2012 11:11 am

A. C. Osborn says:
January 23, 2012 at 10:52 am

Willis Eschenbach says:

January 23, 2012 at 10:29 am says “but as you will note, their inner integral only goes from 0 to 1 … so where is the part where the sun is below the horizon?”

What affect does that have on an Atmospherless body?

Since they are presumably averaging the entire surface, the effect seems obvious. It appears that they’ve left out half the planet, which is why I asked what I’m missing.
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JJThoms
January 23, 2012 11:12 am

A. C. Osborn says:
January 23, 2012 at 10:43 am Ned Nikolov says:
Can you offer the mechanism for Clouds keeping it warmer at night?
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The air is more compresssed under the heavy cloud????!

January 23, 2012 11:14 am

Elevator Pitch for N&Z by davidmhoffer
Respectfully, not bad at all, but not really N&Z as far as I can tell. Also you really mean to say net absorber of heat through radiation (solar input) and net loser of heat through radiation (outgoing thermal radiation integrated over all wavelengths) when you refer to the tropics vs temperate and arctic zones, right? Because as long as the Earth is approximately static in temperature, no zone is a net absorber or loser of heat from all mechanisms, correct?
To put it another way, yes, heat is moved around a lot between where it is absorbed from the sun before it is radiated back to space, and there is some bulk transport of heat from the tropics towards the poles.
The problem with the argument you give, however, is this:
Since the concentration of GHG’s does nothing to change the amount of net absorption in the tropics, how much they absorb and re-radiate is immaterial. The amount of energy that must be moved from tropics to temperate and arctic zones remains identical.
This isn’t an argument, it is stating the desired conclusion of your argument (that changes in GHG concentrations aren’t important) and hence begging the question. If changing the GHG concentrations actually do alter the amount reradiated in the tropics given, as you put it, equal absorption in the unblocked visible band, they can certainly affect the net amount of heat left over to be transported to the poles. The more heat that goes back out with radiation in the tropics, the less there is to go back out in heat at the poles.
The question then returns to whether or not altered GHG concentrations do alter the amount of heat reradiated in the tropics before it can take a trip poleward. And that isn’t answered by begging the question, it can only be addressed by indicating how it is that altering GHG concentrations do not alter the amount of heat radiated at the tropics, or for that matter, the poles.
An argument for this might be “the temperature of the tropopause (and or emission height) does not change rapidly with either the GHG concentration or the underlying surface temperature because of vertical and lateral thermal mixing and the boundary condition imposed by the stratosphere”. As long as changes in the mean height of the tropopause from all causes remain small compared to its height and/or fluctuations that have nothing to do with GHG concentration, both are to be expected. But none of this is N&Z’s argument either, is it?
As far as the currency argument goes, sure. Except that you mustn’t forget to take the fourth power of the currency conversion ratio somewhere in there. The actual radiative heat loss rate at the higher temperatures of the tropics is much higher than the rate at the much colder poles, much larger (or at the very least more complicated, with inversions and everything) than the temperature difference would suggest. This nevertheless does suggest net warming relative to at least a Tin-Foil Earth solar model because increased lateral heat transport makes at least part of the radiated energy more isotropic, which is more like the perfectly isotropic radiator, which is warmer than tin-foil Earth on average.
That still doesn’t explain how to get from the superconducting Earth isotropic radiator up to GHG-enhanced temperatures. You need the GHE — split radiative loss between surface at one temperature and upper troposphere at another — to get the average surface temperatures up to where they are observed to be. That is by no means intended to suggest that the GHE is sensitive to CO_2 concentration — I doubt that it is — but this is a separate question from the question “is the GHE responsible for the bulk of the warming from Tin-Foil Earth”, or worse, Tin-Foil Earth with an albedo. Or better, from Earth with oceans and heat capacity and various forms of short and long timescale transport structures and variable albedo and a sometimes eccentric orbit and a lot of axial tilt and continents and…
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January 23, 2012 11:18 am

Ned Nikolov;
Re-distribution of energy CANNOT create additional energy.>>>
I never said it did.
I said that re-distribution of energy from the warmer tropics to the cooler high latitudes creates more DEGREES.

January 23, 2012 11:20 am

JJThoms says (January 23, 2012 at 11:08 am):
Have you read the article that is the topic of this thread? Did you not get the fundamental idea that we are talking about the temperature of a gray body with NO atmosphere, and that our integration is over an AIRLESS sphere ? What nighttime IR radiation from the atmosphere are you talking about??
Ok fellows, I need to to some real work now, so you wont see me on the blog for a while …

Kev-in-UK
January 23, 2012 11:27 am

A. C. Osborn says:
January 23, 2012 at 10:43 am
I would have thought reduced vertical conduction and convection would be a possible mechanism?

Richard M
January 23, 2012 11:29 am

Robert Brown says:
January 23, 2012 at 10:04 am

Dr Brown, thank you for describing in a vastly superior way essentially what I have been trying to say for the last couple of weeks.

HLx
January 23, 2012 11:35 am

As Willis says, could someone do a step by step integration, with substitutions along with an explanation and post here? :)..

markus
January 23, 2012 11:36 am

Willis Eschenbach says:
January 23, 2012 at 11:11 am
“”While it is possible to disagree in theory with the usage of “GHGs” to mean those gases, that meaning and usage is well established in the climate science field. If you insist that people not use the term, you’ll just get treated as a newbie. It’s one of those quirks that you’ll just have to get used to if you want to be involved in the field—no one’s going to stop using it just because some random anonymous poster requests it, even when the request is in capital letters …””
Nobody will be using that term it to the future. Do not insult me, or I will treat you, as a newbie, in the reasoning of things. That is, a child.

January 23, 2012 11:37 am

A physicist says:
January 22, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Nikolov and Zeller asked: “How could such a huge (> 80%) thermal enhancement be the result of a handful of IR-absorbing gases that collectively amount to less than 0.5% of total atmospheric mass? … The answer obviously is …”
With respect, Ned and Karl, didn’t NASA ask-and-answer this question back in the 1960s?
NASA asked the question in an engineering context: “Can a huge (> 80%) improvement in thermal insulation [in a rocket stage] be the result of a few grams of reflective plastic foil, that collectively amount to less than 0.0001% of total cryogenic booster mass? …”
NASA’s answer (which obvious in retrospect) was “tiny thickness of foil create a huge increase in insulation.”
That is why (it seems to me) that your entire last paragraph should be dropped, for the simple reason that engineers familiar with radiative heat transfer will immediately appreciate that its reasoning is just plain wrong.
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Being somewhat familiar with radiative heat transfer, I find it odd you compare a solid to a gas. Since, radiation is a surface phenomena the thin slice is all that is needed. Do it this way, how many atoms/molecules are in a square meter of the foil used versus how many molecules of CO2 in a square meter of the atmosphere? Then you can see how bad your comparison is. By the way if I did my sums correctly there are 113800 molecules CO2 in a square meter of air.

R. Gates
January 23, 2012 11:48 am

Sorry if this was answered, but I didn’t see the answer after a quick scan of the thread, so here it is again:
Ned Nikolov says:
January 22, 2012 at 9:31 pm
“The so-called GH effect is a pressure phenomenon, not a radiative phenomenon!”
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Explain then please, how the higher amounts of downwelling LW, as measured over the Arctic occurs on cloudy nights, if there is no GH effect from the water vapor in the clouds? This is not to say some warming might not also occur from atmospheric pressure itself, but it seems that the actual measurable downwelling LW is being left out– and this can’t be coming from the non-greenhouse gases, so WUWT?
Bottom line: Downwelling LW at night is measured all over the world and it varies most directly with:
Cloud cover
Water Vapor present (in clear sky conditions)
Concentrations of all greenhouse gases present
Cloud cover is often inversely related to atmospheric pressure, in that rising air and lower pressure often accompany cloud cover, and this cloud cover is a strong source of downwelling LW.
How are these bits of data assimilated into your new conjecture that the “GH effect is a pressure phenomenon”?

January 23, 2012 11:51 am

JPeden said January 23, 2012 at 11:02 am

No, Joel, what’s really bizarre is how “a century’s worth of [CO2 = CAGW] physics” has been shown to count for next to nothing here in the real world as approached by real science – which is inherently sceptical science – but non-sceptical mainstream Climate Science just keeps right on claiming that we should all do something really stupid in order to appease its alleged findings, “before it’s too late!”

“a century’s worth of [CO2 = CAGW] physics”? Really? Do you have a reference for that? IIRC we were being exhorted to be very afraid of an impending ice age unless we liberally coated the polar ice with black carbon in the late 60s/early 70s. See: Nigel Calder’s The Weather Machine and the Threat of Ice. I rather think CAGW started in the 80s.

Joel Shore
January 23, 2012 11:54 am

Ned Nikolov says:

The implications from our analysis of planetary data as well as that of the current structure of climate models (see our first paper) clearly suggests that the effect of so-called GH gases on surface temperature is ZERO! That is because convection completely offsets on average the thermal effect of down-welling IR radiation, and it must do so in order to conserve the system’s internal energy. Climate models, on the other hand, effective violate the law of energy conservation by allowing changing atmospheric composition to alter the kinetic energy of the near-surface air environment. Projected warming with rising CO2 is, therefore, a pure model artifact resulting entirely from the artificial separation (decoupling) between radiative transfer and convective cooling in these models.

Ned: Frankly, I am getting very angry that you keep repeating nonsense like this that you can’t defend. I have told you many times in many forums that the reason convection completely offsets the radiative effect is that you have put convection in wrong. It is obvious that you have put convection in wrong because you tell us that you have put it in wrong when you say that it forces the temperatures T_a and T_s to be equal. Everybody knows that in the real atmosphere, convection does not drive the troposphere to an isothermal temperature distribution with height; it drives it to some rough compromise between the dry and saturated adiabatic lapse rates!
Your claims that the models are treating convection incorrectly are bogus…It is you who are treating it incorrectly. And, it is well known that an atmosphere with an isothermal temperature distribution with height will not have a radiative greenhouse effect…Hence, it is no surprise that your error has led you to an incorrect conclusion.
If you continue to repeat things that you can’t defend and that have been shown to be nonsense then one has to question why you do so!!!

January 23, 2012 11:56 am

Ned Nikolov said January 23, 2012 at 11:02 am

davidmhoffer says
“One degree at -40C is worth 2.9 w/m2 but one degree at +40 is worth 7.0 w/m2. By failing to account for the currency conversion, the average of T across the planet surfave gives the illusion of a higher “average” temperature than a simple blackbody calculation that ignores currency conversion would suggest.”
David, unfortunately your description is physically TOTALLY wrong, and we do not subscribe to it. In the physical world, one cannot increase the total amount of kinetic energy in a system by simply moving internal components of the system around. This would violate the First Law of Thermodynamics. Re-distribution of energy CANNOT create additional energy. In fact, in the process of re-distribution, some of the energy inevitable gets lost as heat outside the system. That’s what makes it impossible to create an engine of a 100% efficiency. This is governed by the Second Law of Thermodynamics regarding ever increasing entropy! Sorry for the bad news … 🙂

How long has temperature been energy? Or am I misreading Ned’s comment?

January 23, 2012 12:02 pm

Ned Nikolov said January 23, 2012 at 11:07 am

Willis,
I’m happy to see the change in your attitude … I fully agree that everyone deserves to know and an honest desire to learn is a truly noble quality. No problem with that whatsoever … 🙂

So why do you not answer Willis’s question? Enquiring minds would like to know…

George E. Smith;
January 23, 2012 12:05 pm

“”””” erl happ says:
January 23, 2012 at 6:17 am
George Smith. says “So unless the authors can show a “cause and effect” linkage bewteen the atmospheric pressure, and the average surface Temperature; the “Unified” stature of their theory remains unconvincing.”
Like most of the posters here George, a well educated and erudite fellow misses the point by a country mile.
You must read the papers first. “””””
Well Erl, I DID read the Paper first. Now you mention paper(s) plural, implying there are more than the one paper which I got to by clicking on the author’s link above. So what OTHER papers are there that the link didn’t show me.
I read THE paper in considerable detail, and as I said, I didn’t check the equations and integrals for accuracy. I do give the authors credit for checking their math and ensuring their results are correct.
So my aprehensions are with the underlying Physics; not the equations nor the integrals which are plain mechanical exercises.
Now I DO understand how the WORK DONE in compressing a gas (increasing the pressure) will result in heating the gas (increasing the Temperature), but that is purely a temporary condition. Given that the total mass (and composition) of the gas remains fixed (an assumption), the principle changes in the system are the pressure increase, and the volume decrease, which is the direct cause of the pressure increase. The transient Temperature increase is a consequence of the work done during the compression; and any real body of gas will subsequently cool back to the Temperature that the previous condition permits. There will be no permanent increase in the Temperature following a pressure increase; uinless that cooling is somehow prohibited, which is what happens when stars collapse to the hydrogen ignition point, and its outer envelope is opaque to the internally generated thermal radiation.
But I will re-read THE paper to see if I can find what I’ve missed so far.

tallbloke
January 23, 2012 12:14 pm

Zac says:
January 22, 2012 at 2:03 pm
I am not surprised that Anthony does not support this paper given the prominance and support he gave to Willis Eschenbach’s outburst. But to deny the laws of physics seems a daft tad to me.

Nobody should be claiming that Anthony is in denial of anything. I think a confusion arose from Ned’s terminology back in the first paper which gave Anthony a concern that energy conservation was being broken.
Ned said earlier that:
“The extra warmth or ATE observed at the surface is NOT a result of slowing down (or reducing) of the surface cooling by the atmosphere, but is due to an extra energy produced by pressure in combination with solar heating.”
I’ve double checked with Ned, and he agrees this would be better formulated as:
“The extra warmth or ATE observed at the surface of Earth or Venus compared to an airless planet is NOT a result of slowing down (or reducing) of the surface cooling by the atmosphere. It is because there is a bigger proportion of the total atmospheric energy nearer the surface due to the gravitationally induced pressure gradient in combination with solar heating”
So, no magicked-up-out-of-nowhere “extra energy”, just an arrangement of mass brought about by ordinary physical laws of nature which concentrates the atmospheric warmth nearer the surface.

A physicist
January 23, 2012 12:19 pm

Nikolov and Zeller asked: “How could such a huge (> 80%) thermal enhancement be the result of a handful of IR-absorbing gases that collectively amount to less than 0.5% of total atmospheric mass? … The answer obviously is …”

With respect, Ned and Karl, didn’t NASA ask-and-answer this question back in the 1960s.
NASA asked the question in the form: “Can a huge (> 80%) improvement in thermal insulation [in a rocket stage] be the result of a few grams of reflective plastic foil, that collectively amount to less than 0.0001% of total cryogenic booster mass? …”
NASA’s answer (which is obvious in retrospect) was “a tiny thickness of foil can accomplish a huge insulating improvement.”
That is why (it seems to me) that your entire last paragraph should be dropped, for the simple reason that engineers familiar with radiative heat transfer will immediately appreciate that its reasoning is just plain wrong.

mkelly asks: Being somewhat familiar with radiative heat transfer, I find it odd you compare a solid to a gas. Since, radiation is a surface phenomena the thin slice is all that is needed. Do it this way, how many atoms/molecules are in a square meter of the foil used versus how many molecules of CO2 in a square meter of the atmosphere?

Mkelly, that is a good question to ask!
Supposing that 0.5% of the atmosphere (by mass) is composed of greenhouse gases (mainly H20 and Co2), if we “magically” condensed those two gases down to a surface layer of water-soaked mylar (which is what it would chemically resemble), that surface layer would be (very roughly) one inch thick.
Which is equal to the thickness of twenty-five thousand of NASA’s ultra-thin superinsulating mylar sheets.
That’s why it is a fatal mistake for any climate theory to ignore those “trace” greenhouse gases — no matter how careful the subsequent calculations.

January 23, 2012 12:22 pm

Willis Eschenbach says:
January 23, 2012 at 11:11 am
A. C. Osborn says:
January 23, 2012 at 10:52 am
Willis Eschenbach says:
January 23, 2012 at 10:29 am says “but as you will note, their inner integral only goes from 0 to 1 … so where is the part where the sun is below the horizon?”
“What affect does that have on an Atmospherless body?”
Since they are presumably averaging the entire surface, the effect seems obvious. It appears that they’ve left out half the planet, which is why I asked what I’m missing.

Willis I asked this earlier, basically they integrate over the sunlit side and assume that the darkside is everywhere at absolute zero (~3K), therefore all they have to do is halve the integral of the sunlit side. Essentially they are assuming a surface with negligible heat capacity, not even true for the moon.

Joules Verne
January 23, 2012 12:34 pm

Ned Nikolov says:
January 23, 2012 at 11:02 am
” In the physical world, one cannot increase the total amount of kinetic energy in a system by simply moving internal components of the system around.”
In a closed system this is true but as far as I know none of the planets or moons in our solar system are closed systems. You warned about thought experiments but ideal grey bodies are thought experiments in and of themselves since the ideal does not exist in nature anymore than closed systems exist in nature.
Regardless, where you go completely off the rails is a wanton disregard for different forms of energy and you can certainly change the amount of kinetic energy in a closed system by converting it some other form of energy. In a gravitational field you can most do it by “moving the components around” because you’re trading off gravitational potential energy for kinetic energy by moving mass from one elevation to another. Moving a warm parcel of air from the surface to some altitude removes kinectic energy and adds gravitational potential energy with no change in total energy contained by the parcel. If you can’t understand how a non-greenhouse atmosphere reaches equilibrium in an isoenergitic state by kinectic energy reduction and gravitational potential energy increasing commensurately with altitude then you should stick with forestry and give up on theorectical physics.
This would violate the First Law of Thermodynamics. Re-distribution of energy CANNOT create additional energy.

Konrad
January 23, 2012 12:35 pm

Shore
“poorly conceived and constructed”?
“century of well understood physics”?
I think I have heard this song before. Remember when you were claiming that LWIR had the same effect over the oceans as it did over land? You had no contrary empirical evidence that time either.

kwik
January 23, 2012 12:40 pm

Funny thing, it all boils down to;
When we measure radiation, do we measure radiation that causes a temperature increase…….or….do we measure the radiation from something that is already heated up…..

Joules Verne
January 23, 2012 12:41 pm

tallbloke
“It is because there is a bigger proportion of the total atmospheric energy nearer the surface due to the gravitationally induced pressure gradient in combination with solar heating””
This is pure bollocks. The atmosphere farther away from the surface has as much gravitational potential energy as the atmosphere nearer the surface the has more kinetic energy. The result is a wash and each layer of the atmosphere regardless of altitude has the same total amount of energy.
What part of that do you not understand?

January 23, 2012 12:42 pm

One of the George Smith’s
> So unless the authors can show a “cause and effect”
> linkage between the atmospheric pressure, and the
> average surface Temperature
; the “Unified” stature
> of their theory remains unconvincing.
How about the Ideal Gas Law, for starters: PV=kNT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law), which expresses a linkage between pressure and temperature. I think that’s where N&K start their theory.
If you can regard the Earth as an isolated system in equilibrium, and its atmosphere as being sufficiently ‘ideal’ then that seems to be a reasonable starting point for the theory.
I eagerly await Part II and further elaboration of the details of this premise.
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tallbloke
January 23, 2012 12:43 pm

George E. Smith; says:
January 23, 2012 at 12:05 pm
There will be no permanent increase in the Temperature following a pressure increase; uinless that cooling is somehow prohibited…

Hi George; that was Ira’s argument, but it isn’t initial compression and consequent transient heating we are talking about here. It’s simply the way nature has compressible gases and gravity arranged in a pressure gradient as an ongoing condition which causes there to be lots more warmth near the surface when illuminated by a star. Simply put, there are lots more molecules per cc to hold kinetic energy (and therefore heat) near the surface than at high altitude. And the nearest star warms them up.

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