Inconvenient questions will not be tolerated in Durban or other climate crisis conferences
Guest post by Kelvin Kemm
British Viscount Christopher Monckton of Brenchley parachuted with me into Durban, South Africa, to challenge UN climate crisis claims, attracting numerous journalists and onlookers. A 20-foot banner across our press conference table gave the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow further opportunities to present realistic perspectives on the science and economics of climate change.
CFACT played by the rules, obtained the necessary permits beforehand, and ensured that its message was heard throughout the seventeenth annual climate conference (COP-17). Greenpeace, on the other hand, got no permits before staging an Occupy Durban protest in the hallway outside the plenary session – and got kicked out of the conference.
Shortly thereafter, however, Lord Monckton and another CFACT representative were summarily (though temporarily) ejected from the Durban conference, for preposterous reasons that dramatize how thin-skinned and arrogant the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has become.
As a South African and delegate at the COP-17 conference, I witnessed more amazing and absurd exhibitions than one would find at a Believe It Or Not circus sideshow. Along with thousands of government delegates, scientists and journalists, we witnessed music and dance groups, Women for Climate Justice, the Alliance for Climate Protection, APEs (Artists Protect the Earth) and others pleading for “planetary salvation.”
It took a truly nimble mind, and abiding sense of humor, to appreciate their often competing messages. One large official poster proclaimed “More climate change means less water,” while the one next to it said “More climate change means more floods.”
A socialist group sloganeered “One planet living is the new aspiration.” I could only conclude that they were neo-Malthusians worried sick about speculative climate chaos and resource depletion – and promoting a roll-back of energy use and living standards, so that people can share “more equitably” in sustained poverty and misery, enforced by UN edicts.
Yet another group insisted that the world should “Stop talking and start planting.” However, this group and countless others oppose profits and private enterprises. They apparently haven’t yet realized that large paper and timber companies plant the most trees and create the largest new-growth forests, which breathe in the most carbon dioxide and breathe out the most oxygen.
These and similar organizations also demanded that profit-making companies give more money to environmentalist NGOs – which might temporarily make the companies less reprehensible and more eco-friendly. Of course, if the activists succeed in further obstructing the companies, they will plant fewer trees, remove less CO2, create fewer jobs and have less money to give to NGOs.
This parallel universe aspect of the Durban extravaganza was troublesome enough. Another aspect of the conference was much more sinister and worrisome. Which brings us back to Lord Monckton, a renowned debater and expert in IPCC and climate science, economics and politics.
One day he and I were meandering through the halls, as advisors to CFACT and its official delegation to the conference. We were accompanied by CFACT project organiser Josh Nadal, who was using his video camera to film anything he liked, to make a video of “what we did at COP-17.”
As we rounded a corner, we saw someone we didn’t know being interviewed for the in-house television information system that transmitted programs throughout the official venue. We were astounded by how biased and inaccurate his comments were. When atmospheric carbon dioxide levels rose, temperature also rose, he insisted – very simple. Of course, that is simply not true.
His interview over, he stepped off the dais and headed our way. I asked him whether he would agree that global temperatures had actually gone down during the early 1970s, even as CO2 levels continued to rise. He refused to acknowledge this universally accepted fact. I then mentioned the Medieval Warm Period of a thousand years ago. In response, he asserted that the MWP was merely a localized event of no consequence. Also simply not true.
At that point Monckton asked him to acknowledge that the science was nowhere nearly as clear cut as he had proclaimed. The official refused to do so, asserted “I have work to do,” and walked off.
Josh had been filming the entire exchange, but now an aide put a hand over the camera lens. When I remarked that just walking off was bad manners, the aide said “You are not worth debating.” I replied, “All he had to do was answer two simple questions.” I was amazed when the aide responded, “He is the Secretary General of the World Meteorological Organisation. He does not have to answer your questions.” The aide then walked off just as rudely as his boss had.
These unelected technocrats and bureaucrats want to decide the science and ordain the energy and economic policies that will determine our future livelihoods and living standards. And yet they are of the opinion that they can talk scientific nonsense and ignore anyone’s inconvenient questions. We had not known that he was Michel Jarraud, Secretary General of the WMO. But that is irrelevant. We were polite, and he should have been, as well. But it gets worse.
Two hours later, Lord Monckton and Josh were informed that they had violated ad hoc rules and were banned from further participation in the conference: Josh for filming without permission, Monckton for “unprofessional” conduct. Somehow I was spared. The next day, following negotiations between CFACT and UN officials, the two were reinstated.
A couple of days later, a TV interviewer asked IPCC Vice Chair Jean-Pascal van Ypersele whether there was now enough information to decide the next steps COP-17 should take. van Ypersele answered, “The body of knowledge was there already in the first [IPCC] report twenty years ago and was actually good enough to start the action which inspired the convention on climate change.”
The interviewer then asked if the science was well enough understood. “Not only is there enough science” the Vice Chair replied, “but that science has been there, available and explained by the IPCC, already from the first report.”
In other words, in the view of the IPCC, climate change science was settled even before the term “climate change” was coined – and all “research” and “findings,” reports and conferences since then have been window dressing – inconsequential. Even new evidence about cosmic ray effects on cloud cover, and thus on the amount of the sun’s heat reaching the earth, is irrelevant in the view of the IPCC and other UN agencies, and thus may be intentionally ignored.
The imperious attitudes and intolerance of dissenting opinions displayed by these officials further underscores the wholly unscientific and politicized nature of the IPCC process. Even in the face of Climategate 2009 and 2010, The Delinquent Teenager, Marc Morano’s A-Z Climate Reality Check and other revelations, the UN and IPCC fully intend to impose their views and agendas.
At this point, in the view of the IPCC, the only thing left is for first world countries to pay up and shut up – and poor countries to develop in the way and to the extent allowed by the United Nations.
Dr. Kelvin Kemm holds a PhD in nuclear physics, is currently CEO of Stratek and lives in Pretoria, South Africa. He also serves as a scientific advisor to the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (www.CFACT.org)
‘observa says:
December 19, 2011 at 8:35 pm
I came across a fascinating early weather tome of some 802 pages here-
http://www.breadandbutterscience.com/Weather.pdf
It is a pdf file of some 12Mb and has gathered together a very comprehensive chronology of early global weather events from 0AD ‘
Thanks for the link – a fascinating piece of work. It was having knowledge of history and how climate has changed over the millennia that convinced me from the beginning of the agw con that it was a hoax. Pedantically, though, I point out that there was never a 0AD (as the author suggests) – the year-count goes straight from 1BC to 1AD.
Dr. Klemm looks like he ran into a cerebral narcissist … not suprising since the whole meeting was filled with psychopaths of various sorts, cerebral narcissists are only interested whatever narcissist supply one can provide, lacking that, they are immediately discarded. I’m coming to understand that various forms of psychopathy, not science or logic, is what actually what drives the warmist.
11:57 of vid
Do the words “Pot, Pol” mean anything to you?
(h/t ChE )
Mark and two Cats says:
December 19, 2011 at 11:09 pm
We were accompanied by CFACT project organiser Josh Nadal, who was using his video camera to film anything he liked, to make a video of “what we did at COP-17.”
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Please post the videos to WUWT!
I fully agree – the exchange filmed by Josh of:
“His interview over, he stepped off the dais and headed our way. I asked him whether he would agree that global temperatures had actually gone down during the early 1970s, even as CO2 levels continued to rise. He refused to acknowledge this universally accepted fact. I then mentioned the Medieval Warm Period of a thousand years ago. In response, he asserted that the MWP was merely a localized event of no consequence. Also simply not true.
At that point Monckton asked him to acknowledge that the science was nowhere nearly as clear cut as he had proclaimed. The official refused to do so, asserted “I have work to do,” and walked off.
Josh had been filming the entire exchange, but now an aide put a hand over the camera lens. When I remarked that just walking off was bad manners, the aide said “You are not worth debating.” I replied, “All he had to do was answer two simple questions.” I was amazed when the aide responded, “He is the Secretary General of the World Meteorological Organisation. He does not have to answer your questions.”
A split screen with the sub-title below the interview showing ” Secretary General of the World Meteorological Organisation” and graphs showing CO2 rise and temperatures from say the WMO? showing the drop in 1970s sub-titled and the actual figures.
That should make a good YouTube viral video
If Jarraud wants to be re-elected time after time (as he does) then he knows he has to keep parroting the UN meme. People ‘sell their soul’ to get on, and even come to believe the propaganda themselves. It’s practically impossible to climb to high office unless one parrots the conventional mantras.
Dr. Kemm, really enjoyed your post. I’m so glad others are starting to get an idea of who these people and organizations driving this agw fiasco really are, and articles like yours really drives it home in simple terms.
“He is the Secretary General of the World Meteorological Organisation. He does not have to answer your questions.”
Sounds like a Wesley Mouch to me. (Mouch is a character from Ayn Rand’s novel, Atlas Shrugged.)
@RichieP- “It was having knowledge of history and how climate has changed over the millennia that convinced me from the beginning of the agw con that it was a hoax.”
These people have no sense of history and as such it’s all about them and now and they perpetually fall for their own hubris. Thought it would tickle the fancy of an old weather man like Anthony, particularly that Director of the Weather Station, Dr Isaac Cline and his report on the 1900 Galveston hurricane. I don’t know Galveston, but living in a seaside suburb of Adelaide South Australia, post Fukushima, I have a fair idea what 15 feet of water would do around here and that height in Galveston in 1900 wasn’t created by any tsunami, just wind and tide.
scott says:
December 20, 2011 at 4:23 am
I watched the video on psychopaths.It was good and informative. However, when I came to the end it said “chinastrategies.com”, and the first thing that came to my mind is: This video had the faces of all the western tyrants, Hitler, Stalin, thrown in together with democratic politicians such as Bush, Obama, palin, Blair, Brown, Sarkozy, BUT no Chinese politicians were mentioned, shown or referred to in the whole 37 minute video. Is this some subtle psychological propogandistic video produced by a Communist Chinese front organisation? Is this some psychopath hiding behind a myriad of sychopaths?
Typical UN , an organization known for its corruption, its incompetence and its arrogance. Many of the problems of the IPCC are reflections of the fact its part of the UN .
Hi biff33
Yes and if only, as he repeatedly says in the novel as the world collpases around him, Wesley Mouch had more powers then everything would be ok. Mouch in the novel has a desperate, whiney and sulky air about him and so it is with these people in the UN and elsewhere. Raynd really did see this clearly – pathetic incompetence cloaked by titles and dogma to the detriment of us all.
Kelvin Kemm: You wrote in the post, “In other words, in the view of the IPCC, climate change science was settled even before the term ‘climate change’ was coined…”
That sentence needs a little work since the last two letters in the acronym IPCC stand for “Climate Change”.
I was amazed when the aide responded, “He is the Secretary General of the World Meteorological Organisation. He does not have to answer your questions.”
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To this I quote a great modern philosopher…
“Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss”
Pete Townsend, The Who
To say nothing of being the best rock, no the best guitarist in history.
Pete is simply a fine fellow and his insight is second to none. “They decide and the shotgun sings the song”.
If In other words, in the view of the IPCC, climate change science was settled even before the term “climate change” was coined..
The problem is that those who support such a scam are salaried and will defend their paychecks, so we should apply Jerome Ravetz´s “precautionary principle” on them 🙂
So let bozos like this “Secretary General of the World Meteorological Organisation” display his stupidity for all the world to see–it simply provides more rope to hang him with in the court of public opinion, which will swing back just as certain as the sunrise and this charade will be exposed and reviled.
None of this is surprising. Like the roaches that scatter when the lights are switched on, the IPCC hates the glare of questions.
Now a report from the US GAO wonders where the $31.1 million handed to the IPCC went:
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-12-43
LazyTeenager says:
December 20, 2011 at 1:53 am
That’s not nearly as serious as the IPCC and other UN organizations grossly understating the conclusions by intentionally ignoring it and leaving it out completely, obviously. The fact they cherry-pick what they want to include and then bend what they do have to achieve their nefarious political ends speaks volumes.
Simple Logic:
If the statement, “When CO2 goes up, temperatures go up”, can be made with such scientific certainty, one can also say, “When a series of La Nina conditions are present, the temperatures go down”. The latter statement is abundantly backed with observational data and a straightforward mechanism.
Logically, then, one would have to say that both are drivers of trend.
The next step in a logical debate is a rock, paper, scissors technique. Which overwhelmes the other? The data tells us. It would have to be a series of La Nina conditions. Therefore oceanic/atmospheric conditions are a stronger driver of temperature trend than CO2 is.
Is this not the 4 marks end of the debate?
@RichieP- “It was having knowledge of history and how climate has changed over the millennia that convinced me from the beginning of the agw con that it was a hoax.”
To paraphrase an old saying: Those who forget extreme weather in the past are doomed to say all current extreme weather is unprecidented.
Anthony,
jqp was referring to this: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy-Resources/2011/12/19/Chiquita-says-no-to-tar-sands-oil/UPI-83941324303221/?rel=62001324387146
And, some Canadian ministers had this to say: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2011/12/20/Canadians-urged-to-boycott-Chiquita-brands/UPI-62001324387146/?spt=hs&or=bn
I, too, think this would make a great post to your site. Particularly, with Chiquita’s human rights record as abysmal as it is: http://www.earthrights.org/press/release/federal-court-rejects-chiquitas-effort-dismiss-human-rights-class-action-suit, among others.
@scott says:
Thanks Scott. Though it may seem we are done!. Fortunately, instead, psychopaths do not succeed as they hope, like Hitler and his “One thousand years III Reich” which, as we all know, only lasted four years. Usually second order psychopaths are “useful fools” manipulated by conscious spirits of evil who remain hidden, as in this case the financiers of the climate scam.
Smokey, gerbil, et al.
Regarding the John Birch Society and statements regarding Washington, I presume you are aware of a new Gallup poll showing that 64% of respondents fear excessive government, while a much smaller percentage (20%) or so fear big business big labor. Apparently we are mostly Birchers now!
Those who refuse to learn climate are doomed to repeat it.
When seeking dictatorial power you have to be able to lie with arrogance and a straight face.
Obviously the global warming reps at Durbin do it very well but look more like the occupy Wall Street crowd with their minions supporting self- importance rather than science. And obviously they want only their record of the conference to be shown.
To clarify:
Dictatorial: imposing will on others: fond of telling others what to do or of using power or authority to make them do it
A lie (also called prevarication, falsehood) is a type of deception in the form of an untruthful statement, especially with the intention to deceive others.
ARROGANCE: an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions.
Minion: assistant: a servile or slavish follower of somebody generally regarded as important.
Record: to set down in writing or the like, as for the purpose of preserving evidence.
I know it is trite to define words people know.
trit: lacking in freshness or effectiveness because of constant use or excessive repetition.
Wait, repeating that the science is settled trite.
Ah, what WOULD we do without the noble guidance of the arrogant, elitist, leftist, “educated class?”
Be prosperous or something?