People send me stuff… UPDATE: See below for another interpretation
Remember how this was phrased? “sign it, it’s just voluntary!”
Recall Rio 1992 “Earth Summit” where the meme was “hey, it’s voluntary!…with a negotiating schedule attached”. Apparently, like a Roach Motel, “countries check in but they can’t check out”. This email is from UNFCCC’s list server and note my bolded section below. The arrogance, it burns.
—–Original Message—–
From: globalmedialist-all <globalmedialist-all@lists.unfccc.int>
To: globalmedialist-all <globalmedialist-all@lists.unfccc.int>; germanmedialist <germanmedialist@lists.unfccc.int>
Sent: Tue, Dec 13, 2011 4:46 am
Subject: [UNFCCC medialist] STATEMENT BY UNFCCC CHIEF ON CANADA’S ANNOUNCEMENT TO WITHDRAW FROM KYOTO PROTOCOL
STATEMENT BY UNFCCC CHIEF ON CANADA’S ANNOUNCEMENT TO WITHDRAW FROM KYOTO PROTOCOL
The Durban agreement to a second commitment period of the Kyoto Protocol represents the continued leadership and commitment of developed countries to meet legally binding emission reduction commitments. It also provides the essential foundation of confidence for the new push towards a universal, legal climate agreement in the near future.
I regret that Canada has announced it will withdraw and am surprised over its timing. Whether or not Canada is a Party to the Kyoto Protocol, it has a legal obligation under the Convention to reduce its emissions, and a moral obligation to itself and future generations to lead in the global effort. Industrialized countries whose emissions have risen significantly since 1990, as is the case for Canada, remain in a weaker position to call on developing countries to limit their emissions.
I call on all developed countries to meet their responsibilities under the Climate Change Convention and its Kyoto Protocol, to raise their ambition to cut emissions and to provide the agreed adequate support to developing countries to build their own clean energy futures and adapt to climate change impacts they are already experiencing.
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UPDATE: There’s some ambiguity here in the announcement, upon further reading it could be interpreted that they are saying this:
“I see you withdraw from Kyoto but you are still legally bound to reduce emissions UNDER THE 1992 ‘VOLUNTARY’ RIO UN FRAMEWORK CONVENTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE (UNFCCC)”.
So maybe it isn’t Kyoto they’re saying they can’t leave, but its parent treaty, Rio’s UNFCCC, which is the model for this Spring’s upcoming UNCSD ’12.
But that’s voluntary too, so how can a “voluntary” agreement be legally binding?
When the American’s invaded we burnt down their White House. Nobody dares threaten Canada. This bureaucrat is a complete fool.
U.N. uber allies.
The UNFCCC, the Undemocratic Neo-Fascistic Climate Change Conmen, coming to the rescue of their multi-billion dollar scam…
I hope Canada will tell them what they REALLY think of this impertinent lecture, so the rest of the still free world will soon say it too.
I am a little puzzled by talk about dissolving the UN.
Unless this forum is full of thirteen-year olds with no sense of history, it should be unnecessary to remind people that the U.N. was founded by the United States, in the United States, as an instrument for international collaboration, BECAUSE IT IS SO DAMN EXPENSIVE TO SEND AMERICAN BOYS AND GIRLS TO DIE IN SOME GODFORSAKEN PLACE WHEN A WAR BREAKS OUT!!!!!
The IPCC needs to be gutted, no question. But don’t give me this nonsense that the UN should be dissolved. Crack a history book. Learn about places like Normandy, Iwo Jima, Birkenau, Bastogne, Hiroshima, and Kursk. Until you have done so, don’t bother me with this dissolution talk.
Oh “H” “E” “double hockeysticks.”
It does seem more likely that the statement applies to the UNFCCC, not Kyoto. No worries, just withdraw from UNFCCC, too. Assuming the US also signed, it should withdraw, too, in a gesture of hemispheric solidarity and international amity.
Who knows, maybe this could lead to withdrawal from the UN itself. One can only hope.
Climate disruption? Blame Canada
Hockey Stick busted? Blame Canada
Sea levels not rising? Blame Canada
I think its patently obvious that Canada is leaving the UN IPCC party, and I call on all Canucks to get behind their Prime Minister, crack a Molson and say “Climate change eh? What’s that all aboot?”
Torgeir Hansson says:
December 13, 2011 at 10:52 am
And I don’t think you can argue that the West shouldn’t try to be a little helpful in the old colonies. We left a bit of a mess in many places. (Never mind the climate nonsense, I’m thinking about things like getting the kids vaccinated and educated and so on.)
You did? You personally pay for it yourself then, if you are so morally bound. How did your parents neglect to teach you to speak just for yourself?
Desperate times – desperate moves
From “Green Bubblings” ( http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/43172 ):
…the green bubble has burst.
David: above… That says it all
“There is no compulsion in Climate Religion!”
Torgeir Hansson says:
December 13, 2011 at 10:59 am
I am a little puzzled by talk about dissolving the UN.
Thanks for explaining your predilection for totalitarianism. You may move to your favorite Communist country any time you wish.
…the U.N. was founded by the United States, in the United States, as an instrument for international collaboration, BECAUSE IT IS SO DAMN EXPENSIVE TO SEND AMERICAN BOYS AND GIRLS TO DIE…
And just how has that been working out lately?
“Whether or not Canada is a Party to the Kyoto Protocol, it has a legal obligation under the Convention to reduce its emissions,…”
According to the National Post:
At the time the Kyoto Protocol was signed in 1997, Canadian per-capita annual greenhouse gas emissions stood at about 22.5 tons carbon-dioxide equivalent. That rose moderately under the Liberals (to about 23 tones), and then moderately decreased under the Tories (to about 22 tons).
“‘Kay. Done. See ya.”
Device to found @emails.
https://sites.google.com/site/myteurastaja/no-trespassing/uxix-timestamp-txt
From what I gather, under Kyoto Canada would owe billions annually to other nations to offset their carbon emissions.
Well you know what they say; if I owe you $10,000 that’s my problem, if I owe you billions then thats your problem.
Go Canucks!
This position by the UNFCCC will have the net effect of driving more countries out of the entire climate scam process.
When leaders realize that their nations have actually compromised their sovereinty over this pile of bs, we will see the exit doors getting crowded.
After Durban, the latest failure of the AGW movement to take our money in the name of climate control failed, it is time to find a new meta-phor to describe the lurching, increasingly ominous process the UN climate bureaucrats have created.
I think “Zombie” is a spot on metaphor. It describes a living dead process: dnagerous, destructive of life, unintelligible and hard to kill.
Canada is now under attack from climate zombies.
So how does one stop zombie attacks?
A metaphorical head shot is what it is going to take to stop the climate zombie monsters.
Well, if the UN believes something is “legally binding” let them send their police. I seem to remember a certain US President who once had the Supreme Court rule against what he was doing. He continued anyway saying something along the lines of “The Supreme Court has ruled, now let them enforce it” and he did what he pleased anyway. From another blog out there on the Internet:
Ok, so the UNFCCC has ruled. Let them send their police.
The UN is merely trying to copy on a world-wide scale, the “Equalization Program” initiated in Canada by Maurice Strong and Pierre Trudeau to transfer wealth from the “have” provinces to the “have-nots”. The UN views all countries of the world as “provinces” and is seeking to put Maurice Strong’s Equalization policies to work, under the tutelage and mentoring of none other than Mr. Strong himself.
Canadians have already worked-out that this Equalization Program is bad not only for the “Have” provinces but also for the “have-nots”. Like any other welfare program that penalizes hard work and success and rewards sloth and inefficiency, it breeds less of the former and more of the latter.
Canadians across the country have determined that they want to be “Haves” too and over the past 30 years have concluded that prosperity and happiness doesn’t come in the form of a government cheque. Stephen Harper’s government is the first Canadian administration to implement policy based on this reality.
I am hoping Canada have had proper legal advice before taking this step. Of course EU membership and Kyoto/UN climate contracts are not legally binding. Binding the future is considered a technical impossibility outside a contract, and even then a means usually exists to buy your way out of every single contract on earth with mutual agreement.
But in this case you cannot openly or subtlely attempt to force the treaties on anyone, even an attempt to do so illegally is an act of treason and treachery and only displays the true nature of the UN as wishing to remove individual state’s authority and replace it with their own. Hopefully once they attempt to bind Canada with no legal force more spectators will wake up and realise the way things are going. A world carbon tax, and ultimately replacing currency with carbon credits, which last a year and become void. That is all documented and ignored by the media besides a single known article.
Was this authored by Christiana Figueres, the boss of UNFCCC from Costa Rica? She’s been one of the 3,000 people personally trained in Al Gore’s eco-terrorists training camps.
If that’s her, wouldn’t it be appropriate at least to label Costa Rica and/or Latin America black on the map of guilt? 😉
The lady was probably just angry so she wrote a legally nonsensical hate mail to the world.
The next time the head of the UN visits Canada they should arrest him and charge him with fraud. Global warming/Climate change is a scam !
Whatever the UN might have been thought to be at its founding, and whatever role it may have played in the early Cold War era, for the last three decades it’s ‘matured’ into little more than a postgraduate program for third-world kleptocrats looking to step up to a global role.
There is no signature on the email presented here. The problem with a mailing list is that practically anyone who can configure their own mail server can make a message appear to be from whomever they choose it to appear to be from. That fact seems lost on some people. I am not denying that message went out but not saying who is actually responsible for sending it means I can’t place any trust in it. Did the message have a digital signature? Whose?
Where do they intend to take Canada to court ? In Canada ? What if Canada doesn’t go ? Does the UN wage war on Canada ?