Gosh. Who knew that a massive tax could solve all imagined climate problems?
David L. Hagen writes:
The UN is demanding control over $1.6 trillion per year to control climate. See Section 47 in draft # FCCC/AWGLCA/2011/CRP.39 9 December 2011 #GE.11-71576 at: http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2011/awglca14/eng/crp39.pdf
47. The provision of the amount of funds to be made available annually to developing country Parties, which shall be equivalent to the budget that developed countries spend on defence, security, and warfare. Fifty per cent of that amount shall be for adaptation, 20 per cent for mitigation, 15 per cent for technology development and transfer and 15 per cent for forest-related actions in developing country Parties;
See Reuters: Worldwide military spending edged up in 2010 to a record $1.6 trillion, a leading think-tank said on Monday. Source: Stockholm International Peace Research Institute’s military expenditure database. http://www.sipri.org/research/armaments/milex/research/armaments/milex/milex_database . . .
Until then, the immediate urgent task is to provide alternative fuels while caring for the poor.Conventional climate mitigation comes in dead last in benefit/cost.”
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@ur momisugly Louis says:
December 10, 2011 at 12:47 pm
“If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”
— Prince Phillip, World Wildlife Fund
“Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental.”
— Dave Forman (founder of Earth First!)
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Both of those individuals are genocidal maniacs. But they are also cowards, or they would act on their words.
Article 10:
“Affirms that the long-term global goal for emission reductions shall be consistent
with science, in particular those of the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report and more recent
scientific information, and agreed on the basis of the principles of the Convention…”
So the global goal for emission reductions shall be consistent with science, as long as science is in complete agreement with the Church of Gaia and her self-appointed high priests. Am I reading that right?
crosspatch says on December 10, 2011 at 10:24 am
I would much rather take my chances against Mother Nature than the “progressives” pushing this UN sponsored Climate Justice nonsense. The “people-who-try-to-help-everyone”, always seem to be able to lower my (and others) take-home pay through increased taxes, fees, tariffs and mandatory cost increases.
At least with Mother Nature, I am given a fighting chance to come out unscathed. I have survived all the hurricanes, earthquakes, wild fires, tornadoes, thunderstorms, blizzards, and floods that Nature has thrown at me without undue stress.
BTW, Given my track record regarding being present during disasters, you might not want to stand too close to me, 🙂
“You need to save us, the islands can’t sink. We have a right to live, you can’t decide our destiny. We will have to be saved,” Maldives climate negotiator Mohamed Aslam said.
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Get real Maldives! If anything you need dirt & sand, not dollars!
Buy your own cranes from those hundreds of millions of tourist dollars.
Dig. The ocean floors are huge and will recover.
Fortunately Western Countries all have balanced budgets and can hence throw trillions of dollars away to corrupt third world governments for boondoggle projects.
It is time to stop the insanity. We are not brain dead sheep.
[REPLY: Try looking a little harder. Your first post got through just fine. Gonna apologize now? -REP]
Oops – sorry, I missed that. So, apparently, did everyone else, as the dudgeon here continues to rise despite the likelihood that the subject document is a hoax.
[REPLY: What you also missed is that the document under discussion came from the UN’s own website here. -REP]
As my families’ fuel costs have risen we have had to drop our green/caring credentials.
First it was the recycled stuff such as toilet paper and kitchen towels – a 15% saving. Then the environmentally friendly stuff such as shampoo, washing up liquid and washing powder – a 12% saving. Then it was the organic food – milk, meat, bread – a 20% saving. Right now it is the charities – the only one left is the RNLI (after 10 years in marine salvage I will leave that until last) that feel our pain.
We are not alone.
These unspeakable morons have absolutely no idea the environmental, societal and individual damage they have caused, to date, with their idiocy. Or they do, in which case we must find a way to repay them.
I was already extremely angry when it was distant (to me) ills, such as over-fishing, clean water and deforestation, that could have been cured with the money we wasted on these scumbags’ paranoid fantasies. Now it is personal I am having trouble finding the words. My children wish you party-goers in Durban a Happy Christmas. Ignorant, Fraudulent Assholes.
Hey Anthony, Tamino is defending your blog from the barks of his lapdogs.
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/oh-pleeze/#comment-57544
As other commenters have mentioned, the UN’s ultimate goal is to establish a one world government. To do that they need a reliable source of funding. Relying on member states to pay dues is not always reliable, however taxation is. And, with the ability to tax comes the ability to control.
There is an area that the UN seeks to control and tax that is far more ominous than CO2 (particularly to bloggers such as Anthony and others). The UN wants to take over control of the internet! This isn’t some pie-in-the-sky left-wing looney wish. This comes from the US Federal Communications Commission (FCC). In addition to repressive regimes such as China and Russia, numerous non-governmental organizations and international foundations (such as George Soros’ Open Society Institute) are also involved in the effort to change Internet policy. The date set for renegotiating the current treaty (signed in 1988) is December 2012.
To quote FCC Commissioner Robert McDowell “While we have been focused on other important matters here in the U.S., the effort to radically reverse the long-standing international consensus to keep governments from regulating core functions of the Internet’s ecosystem has been gaining momentum. The reach, scope and seriousness of this effort are nothing short of massive”.
I urge everyone to get up to speed on this issue as it will affect everyone in every country.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/09/fcc-commissioner-fears-international-internet-takeover/
They just jumped the shark, shark with frikkin lasers!
Former_Forecaster ,
“Nationality defined” might mean that the Alberta oil sands will be OK to exploit – so long as Canada brings in the workers from The Maldives ! ( they’ll have to be migrants – of course. Naturally. Mother Earth provides)
Perhaps the UN could be relocated to a place their influence can be most effective. I suggest the Eastern portion of Antarctica………. I live fairly close to Antarctia so that won’t work for me … I suggest El Heiro as more suitable…. far far more suitable for the new UN headquaters. Who actually owns that building in NY? could they be pursuaded to cancel the lease PLEASE
So what will happen to the employment level when the army, navy and air force of all developed countries are made redundant? Then you have all the associated industries that supply the vast ‘war machine’ being made redundant. Then you have the knock-on effect in the already crippled economy, whereby these business collapses cause further redundancies and collapses.
Eventually the ‘developed’ world loses all its ‘development’ and economies and governments collapse. The UN wins, and then becomes the world leading organisation lording over … what? A bunch of mud huts?
And seriously, the dimwits who drafted this cannot think it through that far? They obviously have no concept of economics. I don’t, really, but that was my obvious first train of thought.
What is the combined annual budget of all the NGOs present in Durban and all of their associated NGOs?
THAT is the reason we are having economic problems. That amount to billions of dollars being spent that produces NOTHING. How much did Spain and Portugal spend on “green” energy? What if they had all of that money back to do something actually productive … such as maybe leaving it in the pockets of their taxpayers?
Breaking News – an updated history on the LAST chance to save the world:
http://asiancorrespondent.com/71700/an-updated-history-of-last-chances-to-save-the-world/
Love it. Guess next time it will be the VERY LAST chance to save the world.
MikeN
I lived in Durban for 16 years – A really great place!
Please don’t let your ignorance dominate!
But if I still lived there, I guess I would be as disgusted as you are.
I am sure they will take care of that problem, too, if we just hand them enough money.
“crosspatch says:
December 10, 2011 at 12:58 pm
“What financial institutions are behind this scheme?”
The UN *IS* a financial scheme!”
What’s the bet a large percentage of 1.6 Trillion $$$ will be the new budget for the ‘Enforcers’. The UN Global ECO-Green Police?
Cheap Trick’s song ‘Dream Police’ will have to be slightly re written and retitled the “Green Police”. With all the propaganda and crap from the UN.
The Green police, they live inside of my head.
The Green police, they come to me in my bed.
The Green police, they’re coming to arrest me, oh no.
Anjali Appadurai, a student at the College of the Atlantic in Bar Harbor, Maine, addressed the conference on behalf of youth delegates. “ANJALI APPADURAI: I speak for more than half the world’s population. ” http://www.democracynow.org/2011/12/9/get_it_done_urging_climate_justice
Really? An obscure student from an obscure college in an obscure state (currently frozen solid, btw) speaks for 3.5 billion people? What mind boggling arrogance!
Step aside, folks, I’m buying.☺
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“One must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore.”
~ Ottmar Edenhofer, Co-Chair, UN/IPCC WG-3
Are we supposed to believe the numbers on climate change that these people put forward.
They can’t even figure out their text puts a $1.6 trillion tax on developing countries. About as ridiculous as it can get.
But not quite …
Cause 78 and 79 establish “An International Climate Court of Justice”. We though the Penn State professor was just grandstanding. Nope.
Unless someone puts their feet down really hard and really soon, we will have ‘1984’ on our hands and children with green uniforms …
Guys can’t you get it? That’s the price of a giant worldwide air conditioning system!!!
The excuse for wanting our money, trillions of it, is because, supposedly, we, the people of the industrialised countries, are causing oceans to rise, temperatures to soar, amd therefore, those tiny little countries, and some big ones too, will suffer because of our industrious character, inventive genius and general talents that make us capable of raising our standard of living in such a way as to double our expected life span from 40 years to 80 years, not dying of the cold and common colds and simple infections, being well nourished, clothed and having machines doing the otherwise back-breaking manual work for us that my grand father and his ancestors had to do for a living with their bare hands. Now, all this technology has been transferred to these good-for-nothing peoples of these back-ward countries FOR FREE, so that they would be able to drive SUV’s, live to a venerable old age of 85 years, eat meat and driink beer, and they want to get their hands in my pocket so that they would be able to have all this WITHOUT EVER DOING ANYTHING TO EARN IT. Just like the sociailists want to partake of my money in the form of a ‘dole’ and other excuses, now, the people of Vanuatu, voodooland and Venezuela (even if the latter is drowning in black gold) want trillions of dollars from those people who saved them from abject poverty and death by famine/plagues/tyranny.
What the industrialised countires (the descriptor ‘Industrious Countries’ would be a truer one) should do is ask these good-for-nothings to pay us for everything we have given them for freethese last 200 years. And I bl**dy mean it.
In reply to Vukcevic
M.A.Vukcevic says:
December 10, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Hey Anthony, Tamino is defending your blog from the barks of his lapdogs.
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/oh-pleeze/#comment-57544
I am sure Tamino will censor my comment, so here it is.
The sun does not modulate planetary temperature based on the number of sunspots. One needs to understand the mechanisms (plural not singular) by which the sun affects planetary temperature and how the sun is changing to understand why planetary temperature increased in the 20th century and how planetary temperature will change in the future. (The sun was in its highest activity level in roughly 10,000 years during the last portion of the 20th century.)
Roughly 70% of the 20th century warming was due to solar wind bursts that occurred late in the solar cycle. The solar wind bursts create a space charge differential in the ionosphere which removes cloud forming ions by a mechanism that is called electroscavenging.
The delay in planetary cooling is due to the short period solar cycles followed by a long solar cycle. This is an interesting phenomena (why there is correlation in solar cycle length and planetary temperature – i.e. There is a physical reason for the correlation.) that is due to a fundamental solar parameter which was to this point not been measured although there is host of different unexplained anomalies that are caused by this parameter.
The planet will now cool and sea level will drop (the sea level drop will be significantly greater than the thermal contraction due to cooling and due to the increase in the ice sheets and the mountain glaciers.) (There is in the paleo record weird unexplained rapid cyclic sea level changes which correlate with the paleo climatic temperature changes, which also correlate to unexplained geomagnetic field inclination and intensity changes.)
When the planet cools we can all yell hurray for our side as we were correct and then start the process of looking for a solution to global cooling.