By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley in Durban, South Africa
DURBAN, South Africa — “No high hopes for Durban.” “Binding treaty unlikely.” “No deal this year.” Thus ran the headlines. The profiteering UN bureaucrats here think otherwise. Their plans to establish a world government paid for by the West on the pretext of dealing with the non-problem of “global warming” are now well in hand. As usual, the mainstream media have simply not reported what is in the draft text which the 194 states parties to the UN framework convention on climate change are being asked to approve.
Behind the scenes, throughout the year since Cancun, the now-permanent bureaucrats who have made highly-profitable careers out of what they lovingly call “the process” have been beavering away at what is now a 138-page document. Its catchy title is “Ad Hoc Working Group on Long-Term Cooperative Action Under the Convention — Update of the amalgamation of draft texts in preparation of [one imagines they mean ‘for’] a comprehensive and balanced outcome to be presented to the Conference of the Parties for adoption at its seventeenth session: note by the Chair.” In plain English, these are the conclusions the bureaucracy wants.
The contents of this document, turgidly drafted with all the UN’s skill at what the former head of its documentation center used to call “transparent impenetrability”, are not just off the wall – they are lunatic.
Main points:
- Ø A new International Climate Court will have the power to compel Western nations to pay ever-larger sums to third-world countries in the name of making reparation for supposed “climate debt”. The Court will have no power over third-world countries. Here and throughout the draft, the West is the sole target. “The process” is now irredeemably anti-Western.
- Ø “Rights of Mother Earth”: The draft, which seems to have been written by feeble-minded green activists and environmental extremists, talks of “The recognition and defence of the rights of Mother Earth to ensure harmony between humanity and nature”. Also, “there will be no commodification [whatever that may be: it is not in the dictionary and does not deserve to be] of the functions of nature, therefore no carbon market will be developed with that purpose”.
- Ø “Right to survive”: The draft childishly asserts that “The rights of some Parties to survive are threatened by the adverse impacts of climate change, including sea level rise.” At 2 inches per century, according to eight years’ data from the Envisat satellite? Oh, come off it! The Jason 2 satellite, the new kid on the block, shows that sea-level has actually dropped over the past three years.
- Ø War and the maintenance of defence forces and equipment are to cease – just like that – because they contribute to climate change. There are other reasons why war ought to cease, but the draft does not mention them.
- Ø A new global temperature target will aim, Canute-like, to limit “global warming” to as little as 1 C° above pre-industrial levels. Since temperature is already 3 C° above those levels, what is in effect being proposed is a 2 C° cut in today’s temperatures. This would take us halfway back towards the last Ice Age, and would kill hundreds of millions. Colder is far more dangerous than warmer.
- Ø The new CO2 emissions target, for Western countries only, will be a reduction of up to 50% in emissions over the next eight years and of “more than 100%” [these words actually appear in the text] by 2050. So, no motor cars, no coal-fired or gas-fired power stations, no aircraft, no trains. Back to the Stone Age, but without even the right to light a carbon-emitting fire in your caves. Windmills, solar panels and other “renewables” are the only alternatives suggested in the draft. There is no mention of the immediate and rapid expansion of nuclear power worldwide to prevent near-total economic destruction.
- Ø The new CO2 concentration target could be as low as 300 ppmv CO2 equivalent (i.e., including all other greenhouse gases as well as CO2 itself). That is a cut of almost half compared with the 560 ppmv CO2 equivalent today. It implies just 210 ppmv of CO2 itself, with 90 ppmv CO2 equivalent from other greenhouse gases. But at 210 ppmv, plants and trees begin to die. CO2 is plant food. They need a lot more of it than 210 ppmv.
- Ø The peak-greenhouse-gas target year – for the West only – will be this year. We will be obliged to cut our emissions from now on, regardless of the effect on our economies (and the lack of effect on the climate).
- Ø The West will pay for everything, because of its “historical responsibility” for causing “global warming”. Third-world countries will not be obliged to pay anything. But it is the UN, not the third-world countries, that will get the money from the West, taking nearly all of it for itself as usual. There is no provision anywhere in the draft for the UN to publish accounts of how it has spent the $100 billion a year the draft demands that the West should stump up from now on.
The real lunacy comes in the small print – all of it in 8-point type, near-illegibly printed on grubby, recycled paper. Every fashionable leftist idiocy is catered for.
Talking of which, note in passing that Rajendra Pachauri, the railroad engineer who, in the topsy-turvy looking-glass world of international climate insanity is the “science” chairman of the UN’s climate panel, has admitted that no one has been talking about climate science at the climate conference here in Durban. Not really surprising, given no real warming for getting on for two decades, no recent sea-level rise, no new record Arctic ice-melt, fewer hurricanes than at almost any time in 30 years, no Pacific atolls disappearing beneath the waves.
Here – and, as always, you heard it here first, for the mainstream media have conspired to keep secret the Madness of King Rajendra and his entire coterie of governmental and bureaucratic lunatics worldwide – is what the dribbling, twitching thrones and dominions, principalities and powers of the world will be asked to agree to.
“International Climate Court of Justice”: This kangaroo court is to be established by next year “to guarantee the compliance of Annex I Parties with all the provisions of this decision, which are essential elements in the obtaining of the global goal”. Note that, here as elsewhere, the bias is only against the nations of the West. However badly the third-world countries behave, they cannot be brought before the new court. Though none of what the draft calls the “modalities” of the proposed marsupial dicastery are set out in detail, one can imagine that the intention is to oblige Western nations to pay up however much the world government run by the Convention secretariat feels like demanding, just as the unelected tyrants of the EU demand – and get – ever-larger cash payments from the ever-shrinking economies and ever-poorer tribute-payers of their dismal empire.
The temperature target: At Copenhagen and Cancun, the states parties to the Convention arrogated to themselves the power – previously safe in the hands of Divine Providence – to alter the weather in such a way as to prevent global mean surface temperature from rising by more than 2 C° above the “pre-industrial” level. They did not even say what they meant by “pre-industrial”. From 1695-1745 temperatures in central England, quite a good proxy for global temperatures, rose by 2.2 C°, with about another 0.8 C° since then, making 3 C° in all. The previous temperature target, therefore, was already absurd. Yet the new, improved, madder target is to keep global temperatures either “1 C°” or “well below 1.5 C°” above “pre-industrial levels” – i.e., well below half of the temperature increase that has already occurred since the pre-industrial era. The twittering states parties are committing themselves, in effect, to reducing today’s global temperatures by getting on for 2 C°. This is madness. Throughout pre-history, the governing class – Druids or Pharaohs or Mayans or Incas – thought they could replace their Creator and command the weather. They couldn’t. No more can we. But try telling that to the strait-jacketed ninnies of today’s governing “elite”. Speech after speech at the plenary sessions of the Durban conference has drivelled on about how We Are The People Who At This Historic Juncture Are Willing And Able To Undertake The Noble Purpose Of Saving The Planet From Thermageddon and Saving You From Yourselves [entirely at your prodigious expense, natch].
The emissions-reduction targets: The new target proposed by the staring-eyed global-village idiots will be a reduction of 50-85% of global greenhouse-gas emissions from 1990 levels (i.e. by 65-100% of today’s levels) by 2050, with emissions falling still further thereafter. The West should cut its emissions by 30-50% from 1990 levels (i.e. by 40-65% of today’s levels) in just eight years, and by more than 95% (i.e. more than 100%) by 2050. Alternatively (for there are many alternatives in the text, indicating that agreement among the inmates in the Durban asylum is a long way off), the West must cut its emissions “more than 50%” in just five years, and “more than 100%” by 2050. The words “more than 100%” actually appear in the draft. The Third World, however, need cut its emissions only by 15-30% over the next eight years, provided – of course – that the West fully reimburses it for the cost.
The greenhouse-gas reduction target: Greenhouse-gas concentrations in the atmosphere “should stabilize well below 300-450 ppm CO2 equivalent”. This target, like the temperature target, is plain daft. CO2 concentration is currently at 392 ppmv, and the IPCC increases this by 43% to allow for other greenhouse gases. Accordingly, today’s CO2-equivalent concentration of greenhouse gases is 560 ppmv, and the current lunacy is to cut this perhaps by very nearly half, reducing the CO2 component to just 210 ppmv, at which point trees and plants become starved of CO2, which is their food, and start to die.
The greenhouse-gas peak targets: Global greenhouse gas emissions, say the mentally-challenged Durban droolers, should peak in not more than eight years’ time, and perhaps as soon as two years’ time. Western greenhouse-gas emissions should peak immediately (or perhaps by next year, or maybe the year after that) and must decline thereafter. The greenhouse-gas emissions peak in third-world countries will be later than that of the West, and – no surprises here – will depend on the West to pay the cost of it.
“Historical responsibility”: The nations of the West (for which the UN’s code is “Annex I parties”) are from now on required to beat their breasts (or at least their strait-jackets) and acknowledge their “historical responsibility” for increasing CO2 emissions and giving us warmer weather. The draft says: “Acknowledging that the largest share of the historical global emissions of greenhouse gases originated in Annex I Parties and that, owing to this historical responsibility in terms of their contribution to the average global temperature increase, Annex I Parties must take the lead in combating climate change and the adverse effects thereof.” This new concept of “historical responsibility” – suspiciously akin to the “war-guilt” of post-1918 Germany, declared by the imprudent governments of the world at the Versailles conference, which was no small cause of World War II – further underscores the rapidly-growing anti-Western bias in the UN and in the Convention’s secretariat.
Who pays? Oh, you guessed it before I told you. The West pays. The third world (UN code: “non-Annex-I parties”) thinks it will collect, so it will always vote for the UN’s insane proposals. But the UN’s bureaucrats will actually get all or nearly all the money, and will decide how to allocate what minuscule fraction they have not already spent on themselves. As a senior UN diplomat told me last year, “The UN exists for only one purpose: to get more money. That, and that alone, is the reason why it takes such an interest in climate change.” The draft says: “Developed-country Parties shall provide developing-country Parties with new and additional finance, inter alia through a percentage of the gross domestic product of developed-country Parties.” And, of course, “The extent of participation by non-Annex-I parties in the global effort to deal with climate change is directly dependent on the level of support provided by developed-country Parties.”
The get-out clause: One or two Western countries – Canada and Japan, for instance – have begun to come off the Kool-Aid. They have worked out what scientifically-baseless nonsense the climate scam is and have said they are not really playing any more. To try to keep these and the growing number of nations who want out of “the process” bankrolling the ever-more-lavish UN, an ingenious escape clause has been crafted: “The scale of financial flows to non-Annex-I parties shall be based on the assessments of their needs to deal with climate change.” Since climate is not going to change measurably as a result of Man’s emissions, any honest assessment of the needs of third-world countries “to deal with climate change” is that they don’t need any money at all for this purpose and shouldn’t get a single red cent. The UN is now the biggest obstacle to the eradication of poverty worldwide, because its pampered functionaries divert so much cash to themselves, to an ever-expanding alphabet-soup of bureaucracies, and then to heroically lunatic projects like “global warming” control. Time to abolish it.
World government: The Copenhagen Treaty draft establishing a world “government” with unlimited powers of taxation and intervention in the affairs of states parties to the UN Framework Convention fortunately failed. Yet at the Cancun climate conference the following year 1000 new bureaucracies were established to form the nucleus of a world government, with central control in the hands of the Convention’s secretariat and tentacles in every region and nation. The draft “agrees that common principles, modalities and procedures as well as the coordinating and oversight functions of the UNFCCC are needed” – in short, global centralization of political, economic and environmental power in the manicured hands of the Convention’s near-invisible but all-powerful secretariat. No provision is made for the democratic election of key members of the all-powerful secretariat – in effect, a world government – by the peoples of our planet.
Reporting to the world government: From 2013/14, the world government will oblige Western nations to prepare reports and submit them to it every two years. The format of these reports is specified in obsessive detail over several pages of the draft. The reports will describe the extent of their compliance with the mitigation targets imposed by the various treaties and agreements. The West will be obliged to to continue reporting “greenhouse-gas emission inventories”, for which “common reporting formats and methodologies for the calculation of emission, established at the international level, are essential”. Separately, Western nations will now be required to provide information on the financial support they have pledged to assist third-world countries in mitigating greenhouse-gas emissions and adapting to “the adverse effects of climate change”. The world government also expects to receive reports from Western nations on their financial contributions to the Global Environment Facility, the Least Developed Countries’ Trust Fund, the Special Climate Change Fund, the Adaptation Fund, the Green Climate Fund and the Trust Fund for Supplementary Activities”. Western nations must also provide information on the steps taken to promote technology development and transfer to third-world countries, and on how they have provided “capacity-building support” to third-world countries, and on numerous other matters. The inexorable increase in compulsory reporting was one of the mechanisms by which the unelected Kommissars of the anti-democratic European Union acquired absolute power over the member states. EU advisors have been helping the UN to learn how to use similar techniques to centralize global power just as anti-democratically in its own hands.
Review of Western nations’ conduct: Once the multitude of mechanisms for Western nations’ compulsory reporting to the world government are in place, the information gathered by it will be used as the basis of a continuous review of every aspect of their compliance with the various agreements and concords, whether legally-binding or not. Teams of five to eight members of the Convention’s secretariat will scrutinize each Western nation’s conduct, and will have the power to ask questions and to require additional information, as well as to make recommendations that will gradually become binding. The world government will then prepare a record of the review for each Western nation, including reports of various aspects of the review, an assessment of that nation’s compliance, questions and answers, conclusions and recommendations (eventually instructions) to that nation, and a “facilitative process” (UN code for a mechanism to compel the nation to do as it is told by people whom no one has elected).
Finance: One of the 1000 bureaucracies established at Cancun is the Standing Committee on Finance, which the draft says will have the power of “mobilizing financial resources” through flows of public and private finance, “mobilizing additional funding”, and requiring and verifying the reporting of finance provided to third-world Parties by the Western nations through a new Financial Support Registry. Finance for third-world countries is to be scaled up “significantly”, and Western countries will be obliged to provide “a clear work-plan on their pledged assessed contributions” from 2012-2020 “for approval by the Conference of the Parties”. Taxpayers will be compelled to provide the major source of funding through public expenditure.
Green Climate Fund: Western nations are urged to “commit to the initial capitalization of the Green Climate Fund without delay”, to include “the full running costs” and “the funding required for the formation and operating costs of the board and secretariat of the Green Climate Fund”. Here, as always, the UN bureaucrats want their own pay, perks, pensions and organizational structure guaranteed before any money goes to third-world countries.
Worldwide cap-and-trade: The draft establishes a “new market-based approach/mechanism … to promote the reduction or avoidance of greenhouse-gas emissions” – once again for Western countries only. Also, “Ambitious, legally-binding emission reduction targets for developed-country Parties … are essential to drive a global carbon market”. What this means, in the plain English that is almost entirely absent from the 138-page draft, is worldwide compulsory cap-and-trade, centrally imposed and regulated, imposed on Western countries only.
Patent rights: Under the guise of action to prevent “global warming” that is not happening at anything like the predicted rate, coded references to the extinction of patent rights in third-world countries are creeping into the text. For instance, “identification and removal of all barriers that prevent effective technology development and transfer to developing-country Parties”; and “the removal of all obstacles, including intellectual property rights and patents on climate-related technologies to ensure the transfer of technology to developing countries”. As an inventor with patents to my name, I can predict what effect any such provision will have. It will prevent the establishment and development of patent offices in continents such as Africa, which – thus far – has contributed remarkably little to the world’s inventions, not least because the structure for protecting and encouraging inventors is rickety or non-existent.
Shipping and aviation fuels were previously excluded from the scope of the Convention and are now to be included. International shipping and aviation are described as “a source of financial resources for climate change actions”. More money for UN bureaucrats.
The new bureaucracies: As though the 1000 bureaucracies created at Cancun were not enough, another bureaucracy is to be created “to oversee, monitor and ensure overall implementation of capacity-building activities consistent with the provisions of the Convention”. There will also be a new “International Climate Court of Justice” (see above). A “Financial Support Registry” is also to be set up.
The new special-interest group: Meet the “Parties that are alternative-energy-disadvantaged”. No wind, no sun, no renewables – so, handouts from the West, please.
The new buzzwords: Welcome to the notion of “equitable access to global atmospheric space”; “Mother Earth” [I kid you not: it’s in the draft]; “climate-resilient infrastructure” and “paradigm shift towards building a low-carbon society”. These buzzwords are in addition to pre-existing buzzwords such as “climate justice” and “climate debt” – the latter being the notion that because the West has emitted more carbon dioxide than the rest it owes the Third World lots of money.
“Rights of Mother Earth”: The draft burbles insanely about “The recognition and defence of the rights of Mother Earth to ensure harmony between humanity and nature, and that there will be no commodification [whatever that may be] of the functions of nature, therefore no carbon market will be developed with that purpose”.
“Right to survive”: “The rights of some Parties to survive are threatened by the adverse impacts of climate change, including sea level rise.” At 2 inches per century? Oh, come off it! The Jason 2 satellite shows that sea-level has dropped over the past three years.
The science is at last to be reviewed in a manner that appears independent of the discredited IPCC. However, no details of the method of review are provided, and other parts of the schizophrenic draft say we must defer to the science put forward not by the peer-reviewed learned journals but by a political body whose reports are not peer-reviewed in the usual sense.
Legally-binding treaty: According to the draft, the aim is to create a “legally-binding instrument/outcome”. This is UN code for an international Treaty. The US will sign no such treaty. Nor will Canada, Japan, France, India and many other countries. On the basis of drafts as in-your-face idiotic as this, no legally-binding climate treaty will ever be signed: which is just as well, because no such treaty is necessary.
War and the maintenance of defence forces and equipment are to cease because they contribute to climate change. Just like that. The UN draft text asserts: “Stopping wars, defending lives and ceasing destructive activities will protect the climate system; conflict-related activities emit significant greenhouse gas emissions to the atmosphere.” A wave of the UN’s magic wand and peace will reign throughout the Earth, the sun will shine (but not too much) the rain will fall (just where and when needed), and non-gender-specific motherhood and non-commodificated apple pie will be available to all. Ouroborindra, ba-ba hee! It does not seem to have occurred to the Druids of the UN that they have near-totally failed to prevent wars on Earth – the original purpose for which it was founded. Yet now, in their gibbering, spastic arrogance, they think to command the weather. Canute, thou shouldst be living at this hour!
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R. Gates says: [bold mine]
“To your second point- I don’t believe that a significant cooling for the globe is close. By significant I mean on the order of the LIA. Rather, warming over the next few decades and centuries is probably more the likely trend. I am not convinced this is a grave situation.”
Skeptic! …….. LOL, just kidding. I hope you’re right and we have another 200 years of warming. (After a couple decades of flatlining just to throw the CAGW train of it’s tracks.)
To your last point– scientific knowledge is exploding faster than ever. So many new and amazing discoveries are being made every day. How wise we will be in using this knowledge is of greater concern to me than the trust and credibility of scientists by the public, as that is more a function of the way the short- term political winds are blowing. Technology is proof of science’s basic truth ( at least all that the common person on the street needs). The world now worships technology and the truth that makes it possible is science.
I see your point and must concede that, yes, technology will be accepted by the general public with or without understanding the basic underlying principles, but, my credibility is important to me and scientist activism is soiling it by association. I think you may have missed the connection between the trust in science by the general public and the short-trerm political winds. Without the support of the general public legistlative action is nearly impossible. I also miss the NASA I used to know and trust as well as many other agencies and organizations, not to mention being able to simply watch a program on the discovery channel without being told half-truths, zohneristic factoids, and Gaia sermons about how we’re raping the planet or some other such nonesense.
Rocky Road said: (to R. Gates)
“From what you post here at WUWT it is easy to see you are of the CAGW camp…”
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Really? Please give just one example of a catastrophic post I’ve made, that clearly shows the C in CAGW. Because one believes in AGW does not automatically make them a believer in looming catastrophe.
R. Gates;
Really? Please give just one example of a catastrophic post I’ve made, that clearly shows the C in CAGW>>>
Putting aside for the moment that you couch almost everything you say in vague terms so you can spin it any way you want later, and putting aside that you were a defender to the hilt of Al Gore’s alarmist preaching until his on air experiment was shown to be a hoax and you lost your bet with me that is wasn’t, from this thread:
R. Gates says:
December 10, 2011 at 7:51 am
Durban will be a failure much the same as the current attempts to save the Euro. Both will have long-term repercussions.
John West says:
December 10, 2011 at 1:21 pm Stars Wars re: Galactic Senate
The Senate’s bill led to a dictatorship and war, but not what I was referring to as an apocalypse. Unfortunately, in my haste, I failed to post the relative paragraph references which I meant to refer to, thereby making my post rather….scattered, for which I can only pray your indulgence.
The relevant paragraph was that beginning:” International Climate Court of Justice” and ending with “ever-poorer tribute-payers of their dismal empire.” By apocalypse I meant abandoned cities, unburied corpses, desolate infertile landscapes, and unhealthy radiation counts (not counting Star Wars alien planet environments) .
davidmhoffer says: December 10, 2011 at 7:55 pm
“…you were a defender to the hilt of Al Gore’s alarmist preaching until his on air experiment was shown to be a hoax and you lost your bet with me that is wasn’t, from this thread”
This simple experiment (repeatable) seems to show the CO2 effect is real:
http://tinyurl.com/7xmd6e2
No plastic globes though!
“Madness of King Rajendra and his entire coterie”. They look mad but they are not mad. I call it “Global Warming Cult”. They have priests/charlatans threatening doomsday and uneducated and gullable masses to fleece. Al Gore is their High Priest.
Wow to be honest i thought is it possible they are even proposing me sign this piece of garbage.
This is the biggest joke i have ever seen. If we sign that we have signed our death warrant i will be glad to head up up the overthrow of the government i can tell you with 100 percent certainty we will be throwing the fools out on there back sides. There will never be a Democrat in the white house in the next 100 years. I am livid that we even went to this kangaroo event to discuss the the systematic redistribution of wealth and destruction of happiness in western nations. As Maxine Waters put it they can go straight to hell. What a bunch of crack pots, this is just going to keep revisiting us in one for or another till we have taken every piece one at a time. Our founding fathers are rolling in there graves. The statue of Washington is probably crying right about now. I know any of us Americans that actually read the news are horrified, angry and to the point of boiling over. We have to get the UN the hell out of here and fast Canada got smart.
jjthoms;
This simple experiment (repeatable) seems to show the CO2 effect is real:
http://tinyurl.com/7xmd6e2
No plastic globes though!>>>
My issue with R. Gates and Al Gore’s experiment had nothing to do with whether or not the CO2 effect is real. Of course, it is. The point of my dispute with R. Gates is that he defended Al Gore’s alarmism to the hilt, but wants us to believe he is not an alarmist. In addition, he purports to understand the radiative physics involved. If that were the case, he would never have agreed to take the bet with me for the simple reason that Al Gore’s experiment as illustrated could not possibly produce the results that were illustrated. Had R. Gates understood the physics involved, he would have known the reproduction was doomed to failure in the first place. The he compounded his error by suggesting the globes could be taken out of the jars, which is ludicrous given that the ONLY way the experimet could have worked was with something in the jar (a globe being good enough, but nothing? forget it!)
Then he had the audacity to lecture Joe D’Aleo about radiative physics, and now claims he doesn’t support the C in CAGW. Well he certainly supported Al Gores version of CAGW right up until he looked completely foolish for defending Al Gores’s faked experiment, after which, suddenly, he started aying he was “distancing” himself from Al Gore.
One can only surmise that had Anthony not caught the fact the experiment was faked, R. Gates would still be singing Al Gore’s praises.
davidmhoffer says:
December 10, 2011 at 7:55 pm
R. Gates;
Really? Please give just one example of a catastrophic post I’ve made, that clearly shows the C in CAGW>>>
Putting aside for the moment that you couch almost everything you say in vague terms so you can spin it any way you want later, and putting aside that you were a defender to the hilt of Al Gore’s alarmist preaching until his on air experiment was shown to be a hoax and you lost your bet with me that is wasn’t, from this thread:
R. Gates says:
December 10, 2011 at 7:51 am
Durban will be a failure much the same as the current attempts to save the Euro. Both will have long-term repercussions.
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There is absolutely nothing alarmist in this at all– intended or otherwise. Both of these are political and economic policy decisions by major world powers that will be have repercussions for many years. Repercussions can be negative, positive, or neutral. Had I used some adjective like “dire” etc. then you could call me alarmist with complete justification. As it stands, you’ve gone once into your world of fiction to create something that just isn’t there.
I have seen with my own eyes how science is cooked in the Soviet Union and here in America. I also know a lot about a history of science. I tend to agree with the “Climate change” supporters that real scientific discussion ended long ago. When you can call the opponents “enemies of the people” and sent them to Gulag there is no need for scientific discussion. When in America you can call them “like Holocaust deniers” and deny them grants and tenure, discussion ended. Try to get PhD if your results contradict your professor and his granting agency.
What we really need is an all out war – a flat out, existence threatening war, like WW2. That will cut the air time for these drivelling fools and all their equally drivelling Lefty chums. (Sarc – maybe)
The fricking data is bad, nobody in there right mind would certify it. Last i checked you had better calibrate on a regular basis, sorry from space checking the temp on a cloud not possible with with the accuracy you are proposing to rape the industrial nations on. Then throw in some adjustments wtf is this crap because one satellite was not functioning.
Does the UN have jurisdiction over the nation states which fund it?
What if a few new governments come in and say: ‘I no longer respect the authority of the UN’?
That’s the inelectable conclusion I would reach if I stood for office. So long as a US President agreed with me.
Will the Indian Secret Service have me bumped off if I do??
Answers on a post card to all TNCs who will relocate carbon emitting plants out of Europe and America.
There is no difference between emitting carbon in England or in China.
One does start to wonder if green idiots will become the 21st century Jews……..
As the famous pace picante sauce commercial put it.
“Get a rope”
Larry
We’ve survived doomsday so often and will so furtheron.
It was predicted by Jehova Witnesses, foreseen by Madam Blavatsky and Nostradamus, blamed on comet Kohoutek, feared to be in year 2000, calculated by the mayans and prophesized in the Bible. Yes, doomsday will come sometimes in the end very far in the future but not now and not 2012 and not by climate change of 2°C.
Now these religious zealots are taking the “sword” to finally “kill” us if we don’t want to be saved? This world seems to become an ugly place to live in.
>>Jbar says: December 10, 2011 at 4:35 pm
>>World government? I don’t know what you’re so afraid of.
The liberal dreamers have fantasies about the One World Government being based on their liberal world view and their liberal reasoning. But what happens if the One World Leader is actually Pol Pot, Stalin, Mugabe, Rutaganda, or Hitler? Power corrupts and this most powerful of positions can corrupt utterly.
And then we have the problem of this One World Leader favouring his tribe, clan or nation. Do we really want a One World Leader like Gaddafi or Saddam, who only ever favoured their own clan and trod upon everyone else? A One World Leader is a very dangerous position, that will inevitably lead to a One World Tyrant.
>>John West says: December 10, 2011 at 1:21 pm
>>Star Wars II, Galactic Senate grants “emergency powers” to Chancellor.
>>Star Wars III, Galactic Senate cheers the institution of Galactic Emperor.
This storyline was based upon the rise of Julius Caesar to the position of all-powerful Emperor. And while Julius and Octavian were not so bad as a ‘One World’ leaders, would you really want to live under a One World Caligula or Nero??
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All of this is well and good and necessary for CFACT to do. But while CFACT was at Durban mocking CoP, prime minister Lisa Jackson at the U.S. EPA has already issued two PSD permits for CO2 with teeth. One sets BACT for power generation as NGCC. The other sets BACT as CCS. The Queen of Hearts is just a hairbreadth away from declaring CCS as BACT for any new or modified coal-fired power plant. That will result in either the last coal plant in the U.S., or our electricity rates will “necessarily skyrocket” to the point that coal electricity will be as costly as solar (i.e., a doubling).
While CFACT is winning in the battle of court of public opinion, they are losing the war to this country’s statist bureaucracy. If CFACT does not recognize this then all their efforts are for naught.
It is time for Sen. Inhofe to put his patriotism on the line and once for all lead an effort to reform the CAA that EPA has so brazenly perverted with a so-called “Endangerment Finding” that could not withstand the light of day if it were revisited today. Congress will have to nullify the Tailoring Rule that the Executive Branch crafted to usurp Congress’ authority.
The whole of the problem’s solution for the U.S. lies with Congress.
Now THAT is a scary thought.
The UN can write an agreement that anthropomorphizes the planet, and the President can sign it, but Congress can’t ratify it. Says so right here:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…”
“there will be no commodification [whatever that may be: it is not in the dictionary and does not deserve to be]
It’s in the Oxford English Dictionary: Volume III, p 563 centre column.
“The action of turning something into, or treating something as, a (mere) commodity; commercialization of an activity that is not by nature commercial.”
An example of this would seem to be taxing the air we breathe…
I have not enjoyed such a comic opera for a long time, but I gather the promoters and sponsors paid a lot more than necessary to get this huge cast of clowns together for our entertainment.
“This world seems to become an ugly place to live in.”
And there is no good reason for it. I propose we find the source funding for the UN and cut it off completly. Along with donations to the WWF, the Sierra club and any other organization so closely related to the FCCC or its creature the IPCC.
In the first half of the 19th Century good and honest people derided and ridiculed two German dudes, one Karl Marx and the other Friedrich Engels for their crazy ideas. Fifty years later, Lenin put into practice Marx’s teachings and after a centrury of worldwide suffering socialism and communism claimed about 100 million victims.
The story is repeating itself. For the last twenty or so years good and honest people derided and ridiculed a bunch of eco-zealots, not taking too seriously their plans for world control and domination. We cannot afford any risk, however remote, to allow these eco-zealots to continue with their plans, which from this article and the referenced documents, are at quite an advanced stage. For evil to triumph, all it takes is for good and honest people to do nothing.
David says:
December 10, 2011 at 6:55 am
It’s a pity Lord Monckton doesn’t give page and para references for his various ‘plain english’ summaries. On a quick skim through the 138-page document I can find very little of what he describes (e.g. references to ending war and the rights of ‘Mother Earth’). Have I overlooked them in my quick skim (which is entirely possible)? Or are they in a different document (maybe the ‘small print’ he refers to?)
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Page number 15
Rights of mother earth
74. Ensure respect for the intrinsic laws of nature.
75. The recognition and defence of the rights of Mother Earth to ensure harmony
between humanity and nature, and that their will be no commodification of the functions of
nature, therefore no carbon market will be developed with that purpose.
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R. Gates says:
December 10, 2011 at 7:51 am
Durban will be a failure much the same as the current attempts to save the Euro. Both will have long-term repercussions.
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There is absolutely nothing alarmist in this at all– intended or otherwise. Both of these are political and economic policy decisions by major world powers that will be have repercussions for many years. Repercussions can be negative, positive, or neutral. Had I used some adjective like “dire” etc. then you could call me alarmist with complete justification. As it stands, you’ve gone once into your world of fiction to create something that just isn’t there.>>>>
OK, so spell it out R. Gates. You said that there would be long-term repercussions.
Let’s work through the logic, shall we? If you were of the opinion that the repercussions were insignificant, there would be no point commenting at all. It would be pretty silly to imply that there were repercussions, but that they were insignificant, would it not? Is it possible to read your vague remark and come to the conclusion that you meant anything BUT that there would be SIGNIFICANT repercussions?
So, now let’s go onto your opinion as to the repercussions, which you deemed significant enough to comment on, are, in your opinion, positive or negative. If one were of the opinion that the repercussions were a net posistive, one would tend to use words like “this is a positive outcome” or “this is the best thing that could happen”. Who would couch positive results in a vague statement about “long term repercussions”? You have an excellent grasp of the written word, is that how you would couch a positive outcome? As a “long term repercussion”?
I need not even point out the many quotes from your comments on this blog that illustrate your over all position. But the notion that you said there would be long term repercussions and now wish to claim that you neither meant nor implied they would be negative just doesn’t make sense.
But I’ll tell you what, let’s give you the benefit of the doubt. How about you be explicit. Did you mean that the repercussions would be significant? Or not? Did you mean they would be negative? Or not?
Simple questions that ought to have simple answers.
R. Gates;
Durban will be a failure much the same as the current attempts to save the Euro. Both will have long-term repercussions.>>>
Ooops, I almost forgot the most important point. If, as you claim, ( and I quote:)
“Repercussions can be negative, positive, or neutral. Had I used some adjective like “dire” etc. then you could call me alarmist with complete justification.”
…are we to assume that you mean that the attempts to save the Euro, and the repercussions of failure, are ALSO neither negative,positive, or neutral? The truth is the situation that the EU finds itself in is both dire, and negative. You cannot claim that you did not intend to imply the same of the failure in Durban. If you did, you’d be claiming that the EU does not have a significant and dire problem on their hands. Your intent sir, was clear.