Durban: what the media are not telling you

By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley in Durban, South Africa

DURBAN, South Africa — “No high hopes for Durban.” “Binding treaty unlikely.” “No deal this year.” Thus ran the headlines. The profiteering UN bureaucrats here think otherwise. Their plans to establish a world government paid for by the West on the pretext of dealing with the non-problem of “global warming” are now well in hand. As usual, the mainstream media have simply not reported what is in the draft text which the 194 states parties to the UN framework convention on climate change are being asked to approve.

Behind the scenes, throughout the year since Cancun, the now-permanent bureaucrats who have made highly-profitable careers out of what they lovingly call “the process” have been beavering away at what is now a 138-page document. Its catchy title is “Ad Hoc Working Group on Long-Term Cooperative Action Under the Convention — Update of the amalgamation of draft texts in preparation of [one imagines they mean ‘for’] a comprehensive and balanced outcome to be presented to the Conference of the Parties for adoption at its seventeenth session: note by the Chair.” In plain English, these are the conclusions the bureaucracy wants.

The contents of this document, turgidly drafted with all the UN’s skill at what the former head of its documentation center used to call “transparent impenetrability”, are not just off the wall – they are lunatic.

Main points:

  • Ø A new International Climate Court will have the power to compel Western nations to pay ever-larger sums to third-world countries in the name of making reparation for supposed “climate debt”. The Court will have no power over third-world countries. Here and throughout the draft, the West is the sole target. “The process” is now irredeemably anti-Western.
  • Ø “Rights of Mother Earth”: The draft, which seems to have been written by feeble-minded green activists and environmental extremists, talks of “The recognition and defence of the rights of Mother Earth to ensure harmony between humanity and nature”. Also, “there will be no commodification [whatever that may be: it is not in the dictionary and does not deserve to be] of the functions of nature, therefore no carbon market will be developed with that purpose”.
  • Ø “Right to survive”: The draft childishly asserts that “The rights of some Parties to survive are threatened by the adverse impacts of climate change, including sea level rise.” At 2 inches per century, according to eight years’ data from the Envisat satellite? Oh, come off it! The Jason 2 satellite, the new kid on the block, shows that sea-level has actually dropped over the past three years.

 

  • Ø War and the maintenance of defence forces and equipment are to cease – just like that – because they contribute to climate change. There are other reasons why war ought to cease, but the draft does not mention them.
  • Ø A new global temperature target will aim, Canute-like, to limit “global warming” to as little as 1 C° above pre-industrial levels. Since temperature is already 3 C° above those levels, what is in effect being proposed is a 2 C° cut in today’s temperatures. This would take us halfway back towards the last Ice Age, and would kill hundreds of millions. Colder is far more dangerous than warmer.
  • Ø The new CO2 emissions target, for Western countries only, will be a reduction of up to 50% in emissions over the next eight years and of “more than 100%” [these words actually appear in the text] by 2050. So, no motor cars, no coal-fired or gas-fired power stations, no aircraft, no trains. Back to the Stone Age, but without even the right to light a carbon-emitting fire in your caves. Windmills, solar panels and other “renewables” are the only alternatives suggested in the draft. There is no mention of the immediate and rapid expansion of nuclear power worldwide to prevent near-total economic destruction.
  • Ø The new CO2 concentration target could be as low as 300 ppmv CO2 equivalent (i.e., including all other greenhouse gases as well as CO2 itself). That is a cut of almost half compared with the 560 ppmv CO2 equivalent today. It implies just 210 ppmv of CO2 itself, with 90 ppmv CO2 equivalent from other greenhouse gases. But at 210 ppmv, plants and trees begin to die. CO2 is plant food. They need a lot more of it than 210 ppmv.
  • Ø The peak-greenhouse-gas target year – for the West only – will be this year. We will be obliged to cut our emissions from now on, regardless of the effect on our economies (and the lack of effect on the climate).
  • Ø The West will pay for everything, because of its “historical responsibility” for causing “global warming”. Third-world countries will not be obliged to pay anything. But it is the UN, not the third-world countries, that will get the money from the West, taking nearly all of it for itself as usual. There is no provision anywhere in the draft for the UN to publish accounts of how it has spent the $100 billion a year the draft demands that the West should stump up from now on.

 

The real lunacy comes in the small print – all of it in 8-point type, near-illegibly printed on grubby, recycled paper. Every fashionable leftist idiocy is catered for.

Talking of which, note in passing that Rajendra Pachauri, the railroad engineer who, in the topsy-turvy looking-glass world of international climate insanity is the “science” chairman of the UN’s climate panel, has admitted that no one has been talking about climate science at the climate conference here in Durban. Not really surprising, given no real warming for getting on for two decades, no recent sea-level rise, no new record Arctic ice-melt, fewer hurricanes than at almost any time in 30 years, no Pacific atolls disappearing beneath the waves.

Here – and, as always, you heard it here first, for the mainstream media have conspired to keep secret the Madness of King Rajendra and his entire coterie of governmental and bureaucratic lunatics worldwide – is what the dribbling, twitching thrones and dominions, principalities and powers of the world will be asked to agree to.

“International Climate Court of Justice”: This kangaroo court is to be established by next year “to guarantee the compliance of Annex I Parties with all the provisions of this decision, which are essential elements in the obtaining of the global goal”. Note that, here as elsewhere, the bias is only against the nations of the West. However badly the third-world countries behave, they cannot be brought before the new court. Though none of what the draft calls the “modalities” of the proposed marsupial dicastery are set out in detail, one can imagine that the intention is to oblige Western nations to pay up however much the world government run by the Convention secretariat feels like demanding, just as the unelected tyrants of the EU demand – and get – ever-larger cash payments from the ever-shrinking economies and ever-poorer tribute-payers of their dismal empire.

The temperature target: At Copenhagen and Cancun, the states parties to the Convention arrogated to themselves the power – previously safe in the hands of Divine Providence – to alter the weather in such a way as to prevent global mean surface temperature from rising by more than 2 C° above the “pre-industrial” level. They did not even say what they meant by “pre-industrial”. From 1695-1745 temperatures in central England, quite a good proxy for global temperatures, rose by 2.2 C°, with about another 0.8 C° since then, making 3 C° in all. The previous temperature target, therefore, was already absurd. Yet the new, improved, madder target is to keep global temperatures either “1 C°” or “well below 1.5 C°” above “pre-industrial levels” – i.e., well below half of the temperature increase that has already occurred since the pre-industrial era. The twittering states parties are committing themselves, in effect, to reducing today’s global temperatures by getting on for 2 C°. This is madness. Throughout pre-history, the governing class – Druids or Pharaohs or Mayans or Incas – thought they could replace their Creator and command the weather. They couldn’t. No more can we. But try telling that to the strait-jacketed ninnies of today’s governing “elite”. Speech after speech at the plenary sessions of the Durban conference has drivelled on about how We Are The People Who At This Historic Juncture Are Willing And Able To Undertake The Noble Purpose Of Saving The Planet From Thermageddon and Saving You From Yourselves [entirely at your prodigious expense, natch].

The emissions-reduction targets: The new target proposed by the staring-eyed global-village idiots will be a reduction of 50-85% of global greenhouse-gas emissions from 1990 levels (i.e. by 65-100% of today’s levels) by 2050, with emissions falling still further thereafter. The West should cut its emissions by 30-50% from 1990 levels (i.e. by 40-65% of today’s levels) in just eight years, and by more than 95% (i.e. more than 100%) by 2050. Alternatively (for there are many alternatives in the text, indicating that agreement among the inmates in the Durban asylum is a long way off), the West must cut its emissions “more than 50%” in just five years, and “more than 100%” by 2050. The words “more than 100%” actually appear in the draft. The Third World, however, need cut its emissions only by 15-30% over the next eight years, provided – of course – that the West fully reimburses it for the cost.

The greenhouse-gas reduction target: Greenhouse-gas concentrations in the atmosphere “should stabilize well below 300-450 ppm CO2 equivalent”. This target, like the temperature target, is plain daft. CO2 concentration is currently at 392 ppmv, and the IPCC increases this by 43% to allow for other greenhouse gases. Accordingly, today’s CO2-equivalent concentration of greenhouse gases is 560 ppmv, and the current lunacy is to cut this perhaps by very nearly half, reducing the CO2 component to just 210 ppmv, at which point trees and plants become starved of CO2, which is their food, and start to die.

The greenhouse-gas peak targets: Global greenhouse gas emissions, say the mentally-challenged Durban droolers, should peak in not more than eight years’ time, and perhaps as soon as two years’ time. Western greenhouse-gas emissions should peak immediately (or perhaps by next year, or maybe the year after that) and must decline thereafter. The greenhouse-gas emissions peak in third-world countries will be later than that of the West, and – no surprises here – will depend on the West to pay the cost of it.

“Historical responsibility”: The nations of the West (for which the UN’s code is “Annex I parties”) are from now on required to beat their breasts (or at least their strait-jackets) and acknowledge their “historical responsibility” for increasing CO2 emissions and giving us warmer weather. The draft says: “Acknowledging that the largest share of the historical global emissions of greenhouse gases originated in Annex I Parties and that, owing to this historical responsibility in terms of their contribution to the average global temperature increase, Annex I Parties must take the lead in combating climate change and the adverse effects thereof.” This new concept of “historical responsibility” – suspiciously akin to the “war-guilt” of post-1918 Germany, declared by the imprudent governments of the world at the Versailles conference, which was no small cause of World War II – further underscores the rapidly-growing anti-Western bias in the UN and in the Convention’s secretariat.

Who pays? Oh, you guessed it before I told you. The West pays. The third world (UN code: “non-Annex-I parties”) thinks it will collect, so it will always vote for the UN’s insane proposals. But the UN’s bureaucrats will actually get all or nearly all the money, and will decide how to allocate what minuscule fraction they have not already spent on themselves. As a senior UN diplomat told me last year, “The UN exists for only one purpose: to get more money. That, and that alone, is the reason why it takes such an interest in climate change.” The draft says: “Developed-country Parties shall provide developing-country Parties with new and additional finance, inter alia through a percentage of the gross domestic product of developed-country Parties.” And, of course, “The extent of participation by non-Annex-I parties in the global effort to deal with climate change is directly dependent on the level of support provided by developed-country Parties.”

The get-out clause: One or two Western countries – Canada and Japan, for instance – have begun to come off the Kool-Aid. They have worked out what scientifically-baseless nonsense the climate scam is and have said they are not really playing any more. To try to keep these and the growing number of nations who want out of “the process” bankrolling the ever-more-lavish UN, an ingenious escape clause has been crafted: “The scale of financial flows to non-Annex-I parties shall be based on the assessments of their needs to deal with climate change.” Since climate is not going to change measurably as a result of Man’s emissions, any honest assessment of the needs of third-world countries “to deal with climate change” is that they don’t need any money at all for this purpose and shouldn’t get a single red cent. The UN is now the biggest obstacle to the eradication of poverty worldwide, because its pampered functionaries divert so much cash to themselves, to an ever-expanding alphabet-soup of bureaucracies, and then to heroically lunatic projects like “global warming” control. Time to abolish it.

World government: The Copenhagen Treaty draft establishing a world “government” with unlimited powers of taxation and intervention in the affairs of states parties to the UN Framework Convention fortunately failed. Yet at the Cancun climate conference the following year 1000 new bureaucracies were established to form the nucleus of a world government, with central control in the hands of the Convention’s secretariat and tentacles in every region and nation. The draft “agrees that common principles, modalities and procedures as well as the coordinating and oversight functions of the UNFCCC are needed” – in short, global centralization of political, economic and environmental power in the manicured hands of the Convention’s near-invisible but all-powerful secretariat. No provision is made for the democratic election of key members of the all-powerful secretariat – in effect, a world government – by the peoples of our planet.

Reporting to the world government: From 2013/14, the world government will oblige Western nations to prepare reports and submit them to it every two years. The format of these reports is specified in obsessive detail over several pages of the draft. The reports will describe the extent of their compliance with the mitigation targets imposed by the various treaties and agreements. The West will be obliged to to continue reporting “greenhouse-gas emission inventories”, for which “common reporting formats and methodologies for the calculation of emission, established at the international level, are essential”. Separately, Western nations will now be required to provide information on the financial support they have pledged to assist third-world countries in mitigating greenhouse-gas emissions and adapting to “the adverse effects of climate change”. The world government also expects to receive reports from Western nations on their financial contributions to the Global Environment Facility, the Least Developed Countries’ Trust Fund, the Special Climate Change Fund, the Adaptation Fund, the Green Climate Fund and the Trust Fund for Supplementary Activities”. Western nations must also provide information on the steps taken to promote technology development and transfer to third-world countries, and on how they have provided “capacity-building support” to third-world countries, and on numerous other matters. The inexorable increase in compulsory reporting was one of the mechanisms by which the unelected Kommissars of the anti-democratic European Union acquired absolute power over the member states. EU advisors have been helping the UN to learn how to use similar techniques to centralize global power just as anti-democratically in its own hands.

Review of Western nations’ conduct: Once the multitude of mechanisms for Western nations’ compulsory reporting to the world government are in place, the information gathered by it will be used as the basis of a continuous review of every aspect of their compliance with the various agreements and concords, whether legally-binding or not. Teams of five to eight members of the Convention’s secretariat will scrutinize each Western nation’s conduct, and will have the power to ask questions and to require additional information, as well as to make recommendations that will gradually become binding. The world government will then prepare a record of the review for each Western nation, including reports of various aspects of the review, an assessment of that nation’s compliance, questions and answers, conclusions and recommendations (eventually instructions) to that nation, and a “facilitative process” (UN code for a mechanism to compel the nation to do as it is told by people whom no one has elected).

Finance: One of the 1000 bureaucracies established at Cancun is the Standing Committee on Finance, which the draft says will have the power of “mobilizing financial resources” through flows of public and private finance, “mobilizing additional funding”, and requiring and verifying the reporting of finance provided to third-world Parties by the Western nations through a new Financial Support Registry. Finance for third-world countries is to be scaled up “significantly”, and Western countries will be obliged to provide “a clear work-plan on their pledged assessed contributions” from 2012-2020 “for approval by the Conference of the Parties”. Taxpayers will be compelled to provide the major source of funding through public expenditure.

Green Climate Fund: Western nations are urged to “commit to the initial capitalization of the Green Climate Fund without delay”, to include “the full running costs” and “the funding required for the formation and operating costs of the board and secretariat of the Green Climate Fund”. Here, as always, the UN bureaucrats want their own pay, perks, pensions and organizational structure guaranteed before any money goes to third-world countries.

Worldwide cap-and-trade: The draft establishes a “new market-based approach/mechanism … to promote the reduction or avoidance of greenhouse-gas emissions” – once again for Western countries only. Also, “Ambitious, legally-binding emission reduction targets for developed-country Parties … are essential to drive a global carbon market”. What this means, in the plain English that is almost entirely absent from the 138-page draft, is worldwide compulsory cap-and-trade, centrally imposed and regulated, imposed on Western countries only.

Patent rights: Under the guise of action to prevent “global warming” that is not happening at anything like the predicted rate, coded references to the extinction of patent rights in third-world countries are creeping into the text. For instance, “identification and removal of all barriers that prevent effective technology development and transfer to developing-country Parties”; and “the removal of all obstacles, including intellectual property rights and patents on climate-related technologies to ensure the transfer of technology to developing countries”. As an inventor with patents to my name, I can predict what effect any such provision will have. It will prevent the establishment and development of patent offices in continents such as Africa, which – thus far – has contributed remarkably little to the world’s inventions, not least because the structure for protecting and encouraging inventors is rickety or non-existent.

Shipping and aviation fuels were previously excluded from the scope of the Convention and are now to be included. International shipping and aviation are described as “a source of financial resources for climate change actions”. More money for UN bureaucrats.

The new bureaucracies: As though the 1000 bureaucracies created at Cancun were not enough, another bureaucracy is to be created “to oversee, monitor and ensure overall implementation of capacity-building activities consistent with the provisions of the Convention”. There will also be a new “International Climate Court of Justice” (see above). A “Financial Support Registry” is also to be set up.

The new special-interest group: Meet the “Parties that are alternative-energy-disadvantaged”. No wind, no sun, no renewables – so, handouts from the West, please.

The new buzzwords: Welcome to the notion of “equitable access to global atmospheric space”; “Mother Earth” [I kid you not: it’s in the draft]; “climate-resilient infrastructure” and “paradigm shift towards building a low-carbon society”. These buzzwords are in addition to pre-existing buzzwords such as “climate justice” and “climate debt” – the latter being the notion that because the West has emitted more carbon dioxide than the rest it owes the Third World lots of money.

“Rights of Mother Earth”: The draft burbles insanely about “The recognition and defence of the rights of Mother Earth to ensure harmony between humanity and nature, and that there will be no commodification [whatever that may be] of the functions of nature, therefore no carbon market will be developed with that purpose”.

“Right to survive”: “The rights of some Parties to survive are threatened by the adverse impacts of climate change, including sea level rise.” At 2 inches per century? Oh, come off it! The Jason 2 satellite shows that sea-level has dropped over the past three years.

The science is at last to be reviewed in a manner that appears independent of the discredited IPCC. However, no details of the method of review are provided, and other parts of the schizophrenic draft say we must defer to the science put forward not by the peer-reviewed learned journals but by a political body whose reports are not peer-reviewed in the usual sense.

Legally-binding treaty: According to the draft, the aim is to create a “legally-binding instrument/outcome”. This is UN code for an international Treaty. The US will sign no such treaty. Nor will Canada, Japan, France, India and many other countries. On the basis of drafts as in-your-face idiotic as this, no legally-binding climate treaty will ever be signed: which is just as well, because no such treaty is necessary.

War and the maintenance of defence forces and equipment are to cease because they contribute to climate change. Just like that. The UN draft text asserts: “Stopping wars, defending lives and ceasing destructive activities will protect the climate system; conflict-related activities emit significant greenhouse gas emissions to the atmosphere.” A wave of the UN’s magic wand and peace will reign throughout the Earth, the sun will shine (but not too much) the rain will fall (just where and when needed), and non-gender-specific motherhood and non-commodificated apple pie will be available to all. Ouroborindra, ba-ba hee! It does not seem to have occurred to the Druids of the UN that they have near-totally failed to prevent wars on Earth – the original purpose for which it was founded. Yet now, in their gibbering, spastic arrogance, they think to command the weather. Canute, thou shouldst be living at this hour!

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RockyRoad
December 10, 2011 8:47 am

R. Gates says:
December 10, 2011 at 7:51 am

Durban will be a failure much the same as the current attempts to save the Euro. Both will have long-term repercussions.

And I for one will cheer their “failure”. In my estimation, these “repercussions” will all be for the better–Europe will have proven (once again!) that socialism doesn’t work; the earth will continue to warm without a “Climate Court” that forces every Western government to pay a pirate’s treasure to the UN. The industrialized West has provided abundant plant fertilizer in the form of CO2 for all nations (even the “pirates”)–producing a veritable “greening” of the earth! These scoundrels should be paying the West for climate benefits, not holding them up through the criminal UN.
But R. Gates, I’m calling you out on this–you have hooked your wagon to a failed hypothesis that has been hijacked by evil forces that would likely eliminate you and your family were their proscriptions ever adopted, but the sad thing is that you don’t see it for what it is.
You keep yammering on and on about “repercussions” and fail to see the big picture or realize the gravity of the situation.
From what institute of higher learning did you graduate that left you so brainwashed and clueless?
PS> Don’t you find it interesting that the people that say the earth is warming to an unprecedented degree are also the ones who plan on using that lie as justification to deny the West their wealth and standard of living, while ALSO denying these same benefits to the rabble nations that support this chicanery? Talk about brainwashed, clueless, useful tools…

RockyRoad
December 10, 2011 8:48 am
JohnM
December 10, 2011 9:08 am

Communism has transparently not yet failed.
It has ceased to be transparent, having submerged itself in green and environmental projects, until it could become visible having captured the hierarchy of the main players.
This lunacy is only the part we know about.

Curiousgeorge
December 10, 2011 9:08 am

David L. Hagen says:
December 10, 2011 at 8:18 am
The reality is that those who beat their swords into plowshares inevitably end up being enslaved by those who do not. The two (swords and plowshares) are not mutually exclusive, btw; as my ancestors, who were among those who founded this country in the 1600’s, would attest to. I don’t know of a single farmer who does not have at least one gun in addition to his farm equipment. Most have several.

December 10, 2011 9:14 am

I eagerly await Senator Boxer’s endorsement and pray the Democrats begin to promote this…just in time for the election!

d
December 10, 2011 9:17 am

Lord Monckton excellent work thank you !!

David
December 10, 2011 9:29 am

David L Hagen: thanks for the references. You are quite right. Much of the outrageous stuff is in a few pages I must have skipped. (In my defence, most of the text is extremely dull). References to Mother Earth are mainly on page 15.

Coach Springer
December 10, 2011 9:47 am

Extremely important post. The first detailed report I’ve seen of the proposals and I check a few skeptic sites daily. Of course, there is no science – only poltics, money and coercive power at Durban. Once the “science” is settled, it is revealed as mindless totalitarian activism.
Since the MSM would never go to this negative detail, it belongs on every other information source remotely concerning limited government and or taking a critical look at the UN or international law.

Richard S Courtney
December 10, 2011 10:02 am

Christopher:
I hope you are reading this and you are enjoying your time in Durban. You seem to have had fun getting there.
Thankyou for another fine summary of a draft Treaty. You are a master at distilling bureaucratic gobbledygook into plain English, and your above article again displays that mastery.
As you say, the proposals in the draft Treaty are insane. I write to say I think there is no reason why the proposals should not be daft because their advocates know nothing will come of them. I explain this opinion as follows.
I said before the Copenhagen Conference that it would be the death knell of the AGW issue. And so it proved to be. That Conference was a total failure. From then on any advances towards the political objectives of AGW-advocates were doomed to failure. (The issue is a ‘headless chicken’ running around as though alive but already dead).
At Durban we now see the bureaucrats, idiots and others who have been on the AGW ‘gravy train’ continuing to ride the ‘train’. Their activities are – and they know their activities are – pointless, so they can rant about whatever insane nonsense tickles their prejudiced desires in the knowledge that their rants will affect nothing.
If they still thought they had any chance of obtaining their desires then they would stealthily progress ‘one-small-step-at-a-time’ until they had obtained so much unnoticed that the rest would be easy to get. But since Copenhagen they have known they have negligible chance of getting anything they want. So they now feel free to present the daft ‘wish list’ that is the draft Treaty being considered in Durban and to enjoy pretending that their wishes may be fulfilled.
Anyway, that is my view.
All the best
Richard

R. Gates
December 10, 2011 10:23 am

Rocky Road said: (to R. Gates)
“You keep yammering on and on about “repercussions” and fail to see the big picture or realize the gravity of the situation.”
———-
You sound like some kind of alarmist. Please do tell, what situation or what “big picture” is so grave?

John West
December 10, 2011 10:28 am

mrsean2k says:
December 10, 2011 at 6:08 am
Hmmm.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/dec/10/durban-climate-talks-false-text?newsfeed=true
Are we sure Lord M. isn’t responding to this?
@BargHumer’s caution might be well founded.
Yes, we’re sure and it wouldn’t matter anyway, the parts we’re disturbed by were WORSE in the real as apposed to the fake. If you read the article you linked: [Emphasis mine]
In particular, the text said work on a new climate agreement should start in the first half of 2012, when in fact the countries named want the new phase to begin immediately, and it said a new legal instrument should be adopted with effect from 2020, whereas the EU wants a text saying “no later than 2020”.
It also leaves out any new interpretation of the “common but differentiated responsibilities” (the principle by which developing countries were not expected to undertake legally binding cuts in carbon emissions), and gives a wrong date for reassessing the ambition of emissions-cutting commitments.
If the text was a forgery, it was a poor one: it was headed with the wrong date (Friday 10 December, instead of Saturday 10 December) and was printed in the wrong typeface (Arial, instead of Times New Roman) for an official document.

He linked 12/07/11 DRAFT and the issues he brought to our attention aren’t in dispute in the fake vs. real draft situation.
OT:
Stephen Skinnner says:
“the AK is responsible for about a quarter-million deaths every year”
So, the person pulling the trigger has nothing to do with it?

davidmhoffer
December 10, 2011 10:36 am

R. Gates;
You sound like some kind of alarmist. Please do tell, what situation or what “big picture” is so grave?>>>
Nice totaly out of context retort R. Gates. Let’s run with the totaly out of context thing and see how well it works.
So…. what you are saying is that there is no grave problem in the big picture. I completely agree. Durban is a complete waste of time and money because the big picture clearly shows that there is no problem, grave or otherwise. Thankyou for pointing that out, and welcome to the world of reality.

bob parker
December 10, 2011 10:41 am

Julliar Gillard will sign. I’ll put money on that.
She may even be over there shinning boots at this very minute.

December 10, 2011 10:57 am

“Ø A new global temperature target will aim, Canute-like, to limit “global warming” to as little as 1 C° above pre-industrial levels. Since temperature is already 3 C° above those levels, what is in effect being proposed is a 2 C° cut in today’s temperatures.”
However what if this were with respect to the MWP instead of the LIA? Then we would have a ways to go. On the other hand, if we went by the hockey stick, it would appear that it does not make much difference. Is GISS allowed to make adjustments to the hockey stick?
“R. Gates says:
December 10, 2011 at 6:24 am
The consensus is that we are about 0.8C above average pre-industrial global temperature levels.”
Why can they not be more precise? Exactly how much further can we go from the Hadcrut3 1998 mark for example? It is 0.19 higher than the 2011 average so far.

Snotrocket
December 10, 2011 11:04 am

Shakespeare, as ever, in ‘The Tempest’, had the right quote for Durban:

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

December 10, 2011 11:12 am

Christopher Monckton – Flying in the face of the climate con trick:
http://www.ukip.tv/?p=2199

davidmhoffer
December 10, 2011 11:16 am

R. Gates;
Uhm… you say we’re only up 0.8 degrees since the LIA? OK, over half of that was before CO2 started to increase in 1920. If we assume the same trend since the LIA has continued since 1920, that leaves about… 0.05 degrees to blame on CO2.
Nice catch! Thanks for pointing that out!

Mac the Knife
December 10, 2011 11:35 am

Bart and Roger,
I too have written ‘two’ when I meant ‘to’. Were I assaulted with friendly weapons by a ballerina, I’d have to passionately ask “Et tu, Tutu?”
MtK

Ralph
December 10, 2011 11:38 am

>>Druids or Pharaohs or Mayans or Incas – thought they could
>>replace their Creator and command the weather.
Careful, Monk – remember, we don’t do god in the UK.
This might go down well in the Bible-bashing belt of the US, but too much of this and we will set Cromwell onto you again. He gave you a good thrashing for all that transubstantiation nonsense the last time…..
.

R. Craigen
December 10, 2011 11:49 am

“Every fashionable leftist idiocy is catered for.”
Uh, don’t you mean “catered to”?
🙂

crosspatch
December 10, 2011 11:58 am

davidmhoffer says:
December 10, 2011 at 11:16 am

That’s probably about the size of it. Any contribution by humans is likely lost in the noise of natural variation. This is nothing more than the creation of a new industry to extract cash from people. What is the combined salary of everyone present at Durban for just this month? I am guessing this “process” is generating a rather nice income stream for quite a large number of people when you then factor in the thousands of NGOs around the world. This industry is probably one of the larger ones on the planet. Now add all the various consultants that are collecting “green” spending from the various governments and now you see why we are having economic troubles. This “process” is siphoning off hundreds of billions of dollars out of the economy for something that produces absolutely nothing. All it produces is ink on paper, rhetoric, and great belches of CO2 out of meeting halls.
“The Process” is corruption on an international scale.

Ralph
December 10, 2011 11:58 am

>>DR says: December 9, 2011 at 10:18 pm
>>Is this really what the folks at RealClimate et al want? A totalitarian one
>>world government? Is this what Phil Jones wants? All the climategate players?
>>They want this? Seriously, is it?
Yup. The notion is rampant in UK higher education, with many of our academics positively hating Western society and its many successes.
This is also what Tony Blair wanted. This is why he opened the flood gates to uncontrolled immigration (without asking anyone) – to mix up the cultures, prevent organised opposition, reduce the bonds of nationality, and sow the seeds of ‘divide and rule’. A divided population can never organise itself or defend itself.
To create a One World Government you need to destroy nations and the cultural bonds that create nations, and the simplest way to do that is uncontrolled migration. Check out the Blair government and their close links to Marxists, Fabians, One Worlders and Common Purpose.
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2009/07/the-defence-secretary-and-the-international-marxist-group/comments/page/2/
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John West
December 10, 2011 12:25 pm

R. Gates;
You sound like some kind of alarmist. Please do tell, what situation or what “big picture” is so grave?>>>
The political picture is grave. Every decade we seem to slide further down the slope away from liberty and into the awaiting clutches of the global totalitarian nanny state. Unlike traditional religions, the “green religion” isn’t recognized by many as a threat to liberty even if “established” by the government. (i.e.: “Mother Earth” is a religious term not a scientific one, to encode that would be to establish a religion, clearly unconstitutional in the USA.)
The climatic picture is grave. The balance of the evidence (strat cooling, ocean heat content, global average temperature, sea level, ice extent, etc.) suggests that the “modern warm period” is peaking. Global warming is a walk in the park compared to global cooling. Hopefully, technology will manage to keep up and if we can keep the fossil fuel haters out of policy perhaps we can keep energy prices low enough such that we don’t have any major famines or increase cold related deaths.
The scientific picture is gravest of all. The loss in credibility of nearly every scientific body over the next few years due to “CAGW” activism may not be easily overcome. Centuries of gains in trust among the common man squandered in a few short decades, it’s really sad.

Olen
December 10, 2011 12:37 pm

Considering the high crime rate in Durban the UN has picked an appropriate location for their plans to redistribute hard earned wealth while blaming those they wish to bilk.

dtbronzich
December 10, 2011 12:44 pm

For years, one of Science Fiction’s most enduring themes has been the survival of humanity in a post apocalyptic world; many causes have been put forth for this apocalypse, from mutated plagues, global thermonuclear exchanges, asteroids, alien invasions and even temporal anomalies. Never, in the fertile imagination of science fiction authors did they ever imagine a holocaust by legislation!!!