Open thread weekend

1. Barnett et al., as summarized by the Fresh Water Group, in AR4 WGII Section 3.4.3:
“Hence, water supply in areas fed by glacial melt water from the Hindu Kush and Himalayas, on which hundreds of millions of people in China and India depend, will be negatively affected (Barnett et al., 2005).”
Go to 5th paragraph, last sentence, here:
http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg2/en/ch3s3-4-3.html
2. Stern Review, 2007, Section 3.2, page 63:
“Climate change will have serious consequences for people who depend heavily on glacier meltwater to maintain supplies during the dry season, including large parts of the Indian sub-continent, over quarter of a billion people in China, and tens of millions in the Andes. (Barnett et al., 2005)”
Go to p. 8 at this link:
Stern was being deliberately deceptive. Barnett says the water supply will be negatively affected (by an unquantified amount), not the people.
Barnett is also saying the dependence of hundreds of millions of people in China and India is on the water supply, not the glacial melt.
Stern is being further deceptive by saying ” will have serious consequences for people who depend heavily on glacier meltwater to maintain supplies during the dry season”, because the dry season is the winter when there is, for practical purposes, no glacial melt. Stern’s statement is literally true, because the number of people who depend heavily on Himalayan glacier meltwater to maintain supplies during the dry season is zero.

With Apologies to: Ernest Lawrence Thayer 1863 – 1940
revisited by kim2ooo
Mannsey at the Bat
The outlook wasn’t brilliant for the [ CRUville Team ] that day;
The score stood four to two, with but one inning more to play,
And then when [ Jonesey ] died at first, and [ Trenberth ] did the same,
A pall-like silence fell upon the [ CAGW’ers ] of the game.
A straggling few got up to go in deep despair. The rest
Clung to that hope which springs eternal in the human breast;
[ CRU ] thought, “If only [ Mannsey ] could but get a whack at that —
We’d put up even money now, with [ Mannsey ] at the bat.”
But [ Flying Gavin ] preceded [ Mannsey ], as did also Jimmy [ Hansen ] Blake,
And the former was a hoodoo, while the latter was a cake;
So upon that stricken multitude grim melancholy sat;
For there seemed but little chance of [ Mannsey ] getting to the bat.
But [ Gavin ] let drive a single, to the wonderment of all,
And [ Hansen ], the much despised, tore the cover off the ball;
And when the dust had lifted, and men saw what had occurred,
There was Jimmy [ Hansen ] safe at second and [ Flying Gavin ] a-hugging third.
Then from five thousand throats and more there rose a lusty yell;
It rumbled through the valley, it rattled in the dell;
It pounded on the mountain and recoiled upon the flat,
For [ Mannsey ] , mighty [ Mannsey ], was advancing to the bat.
There was ease in [ Mannsey’s ] manner as he stepped into his place;
There was pride in [ Mannsey’s ] bearing and a smile lit [ Mannsey’s ] face.
And when, responding to the cheers, he lightly doffed his hat,
No stranger in the [ CRU ] could doubt ’twas [ Mannsey ] at the bat.
Ten thousand eyes were on him as he rubbed his hands with dirt.
Five thousand tongues applauded when he wiped them on his shirt.
Then while the writhing pitcher [ McIntyre and McKitrick ] ground the ball into his hip,
Defiance flashed in [ Mannsey’s ] eye, a sneer curled [ Mannsey’s ] lip.
And now the leather-covered sphere came hurtling through the air,
And [ Mannsey ] stood a-watching it in haughty grandeur there.
Close by the sturdy batsman the ball unheeded sped —
“That ain’t my style,” said [ Mannsey ]. “Strike one!” the [ bloggers ] said.
From the [ CRU ] benches, black with people, there went up a muffled roar,
Like the beating of the storm-waves on a stern and distant shore;
“Kill him! Kill the umpire!” shouted [ Goresey ] on the stand;
And it’s likely they’d have killed him had not [ Mannsey ] raised his hand.
With a smile of [ suber-ego-osity ] great [ Mannsey’s ] visage shone;
He stilled the rising tumult; he bade the game go on;
He signaled to the pitcher [ McandMc ], and once more the dun sphere flew;
But [ Mannsey ] still ignored it, and the [ bloggers ] said “Strike two!”
“Fraud!” cried the maddened [ CRU ] thousands, and echo answered “Fraud!”
But one scornful look from [ Mannsey ] and the audience was awed.
They saw his face grow stern and cold, they saw his muscles strain,
And they knew that [ Mannsey ] wouldn’t let that ball go by again.
The sneer has fled from [ Mannsey’s ] lip, the teeth are clenched in hate;
He pounds with cruel violence his bat upon the plate.
And now the pitcher [ McandMc ] holds the ball, and now he lets it go,
And now the air is shattered by the force of [ Mannsey’s ] blow.
Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright,
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
And somewhere men are laughing, and little children shout;
But there is no joy in [ CRUville ] — mighty [ Mannsey ] has struck out.

We’ve been bad, very, very bad!

Kids, and grand kids, matter, or why bother?
If you want a photo of a SScreen up on the Grossglockner, email me.

crosspatch says:
December 4, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Ha ha ha ha

Paul Homewood says:
December 4, 2011 at 3:03 pm

What I find most interesting at that blog is THIS story:
http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2011/12/01/the-real-reason-we-cant-develop-shale-gas/
Surprise, surprise, surprise (in my best Gomer Pyle), it’s Tyndall Centre lobbying to drive up costs of recovering this gas as much as they can through “proper regulation”.
Tyndall needs to be shuttered.

Oh, and the “money quote” from the Tyndall report on shale gas is absolutely laughable:

Apparently, what is more important is the need to avoid “jeopardising the UK’s international reputation on climate change”.

Maybe the Brits can borrow a pair from Canada.

So, if a doubling of CO2 causes a 3K rise in temperature, what does that do to the energy loss the earth experiences?

Richard Sharpe says:
December 4, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Seems it is snowing heavily in Yorkshire this evening.
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Yorkshire??
Is that the place where snow was thought to be a very rare occurrence and children might never see snow again?

If it is possible to be off topic in an open thread, this is probably it.
If you are in the market for a weather station, you should take a look at the weather station ad on this web site. I bought the Vantage Vue station from the Weather Shop a few months ago and am very pleased with it. My only concern is whether or not the solar collector will be able to collect enough energy to run it when our Northwest Coast winter darkness sets in in earnest.

Richard Sharpe says:
December 4, 2011 at 3:38 pm
“Seems it is snowing heavily in Yorkshire this evening.”
Today there was a snow storm in Wittstock (NW of Berlin), and some north of Hamburg.

Richard Sharpe says:
December 4, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Seems it is snowing heavily in Yorkshire this evening.

How is the pudding?