Thank you, Matt Ridley

Required reading.

UPDATE: Matt Ridley has graciously allowed me to repost his speech in entirety here. It follows below. If there’s one speech about the climate debate worth reading in your lifetime, this is it. Andrew Montford of Bishop Hill has also formatted the speech into a PDF file, with an improved version, better graphics, A5 format for printing by Mike Haesler here Ridley_RSA (PDF)  suitable for emailing, printing, and snail mail. Distribute both as widely as possible. The lecture was delivered with slides, Dr. Ridley has sent me the ones he considers key, and I have inserted them . For background on this prestigious lecture, here is the lecture web page, and here is what RSA is all about and the history since 1754.

It is a great honour to be asked to deliver the Angus Millar lecture.

I have no idea whether Angus Millar ever saw himself as a heretic, but I have a soft spot for heresy. One of my ancestral relations, Nicholas Ridley* the Oxford martyr, was burned at the stake for heresy.

My topic today is scientific heresy. When are scientific heretics right and when are they mad? How do you tell the difference between science and pseudoscience?

Let us run through some issues, starting with the easy ones.

  • Astronomy is a science; astrology is a pseudoscience.
  • Evolution is science; creationism is pseudoscience.
  • Molecular biology is science; homeopathy is pseudoscience.
  • Vaccination is science; the MMR scare is pseudoscience.
  • Oxygen is science; phlogiston was pseudoscience.
  • Chemistry is science; alchemy was pseudoscience.

Are you with me so far?

A few more examples. That the earl of Oxford wrote Shakespeare is pseudoscience. So are the beliefs that Elvis is still alive, Diana was killed by MI5, JFK was killed by the CIA, 911 was an inside job. So are ghosts, UFOs, telepathy, the Loch Ness monster and pretty well everything to do with the paranormal. Sorry to say that on Halloween, but that’s my opinion.

Three more controversial ones. In my view, most of what Freud said was pseudoscience.

So is quite a lot, though not all, of the argument for organic farming.

So, in a sense by definition, is religious faith. It explicitly claims that there are truths that can be found by other means than observation and experiment.

Now comes one that gave me an epiphany. Crop circles*.

It was blindingly obvious to me that crop circles were likely to be man-made when I first starting investigating this phenomenon. I made some myself to prove it was easy to do*.

This was long before Doug Bower and Dave Chorley fessed up to having started the whole craze after a night at the pub.

Every other explanation – ley lines, alien spacecraft, plasma vortices, ball lightning – was balderdash. The entire field of “cereology” was pseudoscience, as the slightest brush with its bizarre practitioners easily demonstrated.

Imagine my surprise then when I found I was the heretic and that serious journalists working not for tabloids but for Science Magazine, and for a Channel 4 documentary team, swallowed the argument of the cereologists that it was highly implausible that crop circles were all man-made.

So I learnt lesson number 1: the stunning gullibility of the media. Put an “ology” after your pseudoscience and you can get journalists to be your propagandists.

A Channel 4 team did the obvious thing – they got a group of students to make some crop circles and then asked the cereologist if they were “genuine” or “hoaxed” – ie, man made. He assured them they could not have been made by people. So they told him they had been made the night before. The man was poleaxed. It made great television. Yet the producer, who later became a government minister under Tony Blair, ended the segment of the programme by taking the cereologist’s side: “of course, not all crop circles are hoaxes”. What? The same happened when Doug and Dave owned up*; everybody just went on believing. They still do.

Lesson number 2: debunking is like water off a duck’s back to pseudoscience.

In medicine, I began to realize, the distinction between science and pseudoscience is not always easy.  This is beautifully illustrated in an extraordinary novel by Rebecca Abrams, called Touching Distance*, based on the real story of an eighteenth century medical heretic, Alec Gordon of Aberdeen.

Gordon was a true pioneer of the idea that childbed fever was spread by medical folk like himself and that hygiene was the solution to it. He hit upon this discovery long before Semelweiss and Lister. But he was ignored. Yet Abrams’s novel does not paint him purely as a rational hero, but as a flawed human being, a neglectful husband and a crank with some odd ideas – such as a dangerous obsession with bleeding his sick patients. He was a pseudoscientist one minute and scientist the next.

Lesson number 3. We can all be both. Newton was an alchemist.

Like antisepsis, many scientific truths began as heresies and fought long battles for acceptance against entrenched establishment wisdom that now appears irrational: continental drift, for example. Barry Marshall* was not just ignored but vilified when he first argued that stomach ulcers are caused by a particular bacterium. Antacid drugs were very profitable for the drug industry. Eventually he won the Nobel prize.

Just this month Daniel Shechtman* won the Nobel prize for quasi crystals, having spent much of his career being vilified and exiled as a crank. “I was thrown out of my research group. They said I brought shame on them with what I was saying.”

That’s lesson number 4: the heretic is sometimes right.

What sustains pseudoscience is confirmation bias. We look for and welcome the evidence that fits our pet theory; we ignore or question the evidence that contradicts it. We all do this all the time. It’s not, as we often assume, something that only our opponents indulge in. I do it, you do it, it takes a superhuman effort not to do it. That is what keeps myths alive, sustains conspiracy theories and keeps whole populations in thrall to strange superstitions.

Bertrand Russell* pointed this out many years ago: “If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence.”

Lesson number 5: keep a sharp eye out for confirmation bias in yourself and others.

There have been some very good books on this recently. Michael Shermer’s “The Believing Brain”, Dan Gardner’s “Future Babble” and Tim Harford’s “Adapt”* are explorations of the power of confirmation bias. And what I find most unsettling of all is Gardner’s conclusion that knowledge is no defence against it; indeed, the more you know, the more you fall for confirmation bias. Expertise gives you the tools to seek out the confirmations you need to buttress your beliefs.

Experts are worse at forecasting the future than non-experts.

Philip Tetlock did the definitive experiment. He gathered a sample of 284 experts – political scientists, economists and journalists – and harvested 27,450 different specific judgments from them about the future then waited to see if they came true. The results were terrible. The experts were no better than “a dart-throwing chimpanzee”.

Here’s what the Club of Rome said on the rear cover of the massive best-seller Limits to Growth in 1972*:

“Will this be the world that your grandchildren will thank you for? A world where industrial production has sunk to zero. Where population has suffered a catastrophic decline. Where the air, sea and land are polluted beyond redemption. Where civilization is a distant memory. This is the world that the computer forecasts.”

“Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts”, said Richard Feynman.

Lesson 6. Never rely on the consensus of experts about the future. Experts are worth listening to about the past, but not the future. Futurology is pseudoscience.

Using these six lessons, I am now going to plunge into an issue on which almost all the experts are not only confident they can predict the future, but absolutely certain their opponents are pseudoscientists. It is an issue on which I am now a heretic. I think the establishment view is infested with pseudoscience. The issue is climate change.

Now before you all rush for the exits, and I know it is traditional to walk out on speakers who do not toe the line on climate at the RSA – I saw it happen to Bjorn Lomborg last year when he gave the Prince Philip lecture – let me be quite clear. I am not a “denier”. I fully accept that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, the climate has been warming and that man is very likely to be at least partly responsible. When a study was published recently saying that 98% of scientists “believe” in global warming, I looked at the questions they had been asked and realized I was in the 98%, too, by that definition, though I never use the word “believe” about myself. Likewise the recent study from Berkeley, which concluded that the land surface of the continents has indeed been warming at about the rate people thought, changed nothing.

So what’s the problem? The problem is that you can accept all the basic tenets of greenhouse physics and still conclude that the threat of a dangerously large warming is so improbable as to be negligible, while the threat of real harm from climate-mitigation policies is already so high as to be worrying, that the cure is proving far worse than the disease is ever likely to be. Or as I put it once, we may be putting a tourniquet round our necks to stop a nosebleed.

I also think the climate debate is a massive distraction from much more urgent environmental problems like invasive species and overfishing.

I was not always such a “lukewarmer”. In the mid 2000s one image in particular played a big role in making me abandon my doubts about dangerous man-made climate change: the hockey stick*. It clearly showed that something unprecedented was happening. I can remember where I first saw it at a conference and how I thought: aha, now there at last is some really clear data showing that today’s temperatures are unprecedented in both magnitude and rate of change – and it has been published in Nature magazine.

Yet it has been utterly debunked by the work of Steve McIntyre and Ross McKitrick. I urge you to read Andrew Montford’s careful and highly readable book The Hockey Stick Illusion*. Here is not the place to go into detail, but briefly the problem is both mathematical and empirical. The graph relies heavily on some flawed data – strip-bark tree rings from bristlecone pines — and on a particular method of principal component analysis, called short centering, that heavily weights any hockey-stick shaped sample at the expense of any other sample. When I say heavily – I mean 390 times.

This had a big impact on me. This was the moment somebody told me they had made the crop circle the night before.

For, apart from the hockey stick, there is no evidence that climate is changing dangerously or faster than in the past, when it changed naturally.

  • It was warmer in the Middle ages* and medieval climate change in Greenland was much faster.
  • Stalagmites*, tree lines and ice cores all confirm that it was significantly warmer 7000 years ago. Evidence from Greenland suggests that the Arctic ocean was probably ice free for part of the late summer at that time.
  • Sea level* is rising at the unthreatening rate about a foot per century and decelerating.
  • Greenland is losing ice at the rate of about 150 gigatonnes a year, which is 0.6% per century.
  • There has been no significant warming in Antarctica*, with the exception of the peninsula.
  • Methane* has largely stopped increasing.
  • Tropical storm* intensity and frequency have gone down, not up, in the last 20 years.
  • Your probability* of dying as a result of a drought, a flood or a storm is 98% lower globally than it was in the 1920s.
  • Malaria* has retreated not expanded as the world has warmed.

And so on. I’ve looked and looked but I cannot find one piece of data – as opposed to a model – that shows either unprecedented change or change is that is anywhere close to causing real harm.

No doubt, there will be plenty of people thinking “what about x?” Well, if you have an X that persuades you that rapid and dangerous climate change is on the way, tell me about it. When I asked a senior government scientist this question, he replied with the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum. That is to say, a poorly understood hot episode, 55 million years ago, of uncertain duration, uncertain magnitude and uncertain cause.

Meanwhile, I see confirmation bias everywhere in the climate debate. Hurricane Katrina, Mount Kilimanjaro, the extinction of golden toads – all cited wrongly as evidence of climate change. A snowy December, the BBC lectures us, is “just weather”; a flood in Pakistan or a drought in Texas is “the sort of weather we can expect more of”. A theory so flexible it can rationalize any outcome is a pseudoscientific theory.

To see confirmation bias in action, you only have to read the climategate emails, documents that have undermined my faith in this country’s scientific institutions. It is bad enough that the emails unambiguously showed scientists plotting to cherry-pick data, subvert peer review, bully editors and evade freedom of information requests. What’s worse, to a science groupie like me, is that so much of the rest of the scientific community seemed OK with that. They essentially shrugged their shoulders and said, yeh, big deal, boys will be boys.

Nor is there even any theoretical support for a dangerous future. The central issue is “sensitivity”: the amount of warming that you can expect from a doubling of carbon dioxide levels. On this, there is something close to consensus – at first. It is 1.2 degrees centigrade. Here’s* how the IPCC put it in its latest report.

“In the idealised situation that the climate response to a doubling of atmospheric CO2 consisted of a uniform temperature change only, with no feedbacks operating…the global warming from GCMs would be around 1.2°C.” Paragraph 8.6.2.3.

Now the paragraph goes on to argue that large, net positive feedbacks, mostly from water vapour, are likely to amplify this. But whereas there is good consensus about the 1.2 C, there is absolutely no consensus about the net positive feedback, as the IPCC also admits. Water vapour forms clouds and whether clouds in practice amplify or dampen any greenhouse warming remains in doubt.

So to say there is a consensus about some global warming is true; to say there is a consensus about dangerous global warming is false.

The sensitivity of the climate could be a harmless 1.2C, half of which has already been experienced, or it could be less if feedbacks are negative or it could be more if feedbacks are positive. What does the empirical evidence say? Since 1960 we have had roughly one-third of a doubling, so we must have had almost half of the greenhouse warming expected from a doubling – that’s elementary arithmetic, given that the curve is agreed to be logarithmic. Yet if you believe the surface thermometers* (the red and green lines), we have had about 0.6C of warming in that time, at the rate of less than 0.13C per decade – somewhat less if you believe the satellite thermometers (the blue and purple lines).

So we are on track for 1.2C*.  We are on the blue line, not the red line*.

Remember Jim Hansen of NASA told us in 1988 to expect 2-4 degrees in 25 years. We are experiencing about one-tenth of that.

We are below even the zero-emission path expected by the IPCC in 1990*.

Ah, says the consensus, sulphur pollution has reduced the warming, delaying the impact, or the ocean has absorbed the extra heat. Neither of these post-hoc rationalisations fit the data: the southern hemisphere has warmed about half as fast as the northern* in the last 30 years, yet the majority of the sulphur emissions were in the northern hemisphere.

And ocean heat content has decelerated, if not flattened, in the past decade*.

By contrast, many heretical arguments seem to me to be paragons of science as it should be done: transparent, questioning and testable.

For instance, earlier this year, a tenacious British mathematician named Nic Lewis started looking into the question of sensitivity and found* that the only wholly empirical estimate of sensitivity cited by the IPCC had been put through an illegitimate statistical procedure which effectively fattened its tail on the upward end – it hugely increased the apparent probability of high warming at the expense of low warming.

When this is corrected, the theoretical probability of warming greater than 2.3C is very low indeed.

Like all the other errors in the IPCC report, including the infamous suggestion that all Himalayan glaciers would be gone by 2035 rather than 2350, this mistake exaggerates the potential warming. It is beyond coincidence that all these errors should be in the same direction. The source for the Himalayan glacier mistake was a non-peer reviewed WWF report and it occurred in a chapter, two of whose coordinating lead authors and a review editor were on WWF’s climate witness scientific advisory panel. Remember too that the glacier error was pointed out by reviewers, who were ignored, and that Rajendra Pachauri, the head of the IPCC, dismissed the objectors as practitioners of “voodoo science”.

Journalists are fond of saying that the IPCC report is based solely on the peer-reviewed literature. Rajendra Pachauri himself made that claim in 2008, saying*:

“we carry out an assessment of climate change based on peer-reviewed literature, so everything that we look at and take into account in our assessments has to carry [the] credibility of peer-reviewed publications, we don’t settle for anything less than that.”

That’s a voodoo claim. The glacier claim was not peer reviewed; nor was the alteration to the sensitivity function Lewis spotted. The journalist Donna Laframboise got volunteers all over the world to help her count the times the IPCC used non-peer reviewed literature. Her conclusion is that*: “Of the 18,531 references in the 2007 Climate Bible we found 5,587 – a full 30% – to be non peer-reviewed.”

Yet even to say things like this is to commit heresy. To stand up and say, within a university or within the BBC, that you do not think global warming is dangerous gets you the sort of reaction that standing up in the Vatican and saying you don’t think God is good would get. Believe me, I have tried it.

Does it matter? Suppose I am right that much of what passes for mainstream climate science is now infested with pseudoscience, buttressed by a bad case of confirmation bias, reliant on wishful thinking, given a free pass by biased reporting and dogmatically intolerant of dissent. So what?

After all there’s pseudoscience and confirmation bias among the climate heretics too.

Well here’s why it matters. The alarmists have been handed power over our lives; the heretics have not. Remember Britain’s unilateral climate act is officially expected to cost the hard-pressed UK economy £18.3 billion a year for the next 39 years and achieve an unmeasurably small change in carbon dioxide levels.

At least* sceptics do not cover the hills of Scotland with useless, expensive, duke-subsidising wind turbines whose manufacture causes pollution in Inner Mongolia and which kill rare raptors such as this griffon vulture.

At least crop circle believers cannot almost double your electricity bills and increase fuel poverty while driving jobs to Asia, to support their fetish.

At least creationists have not persuaded the BBC that balanced reporting is no longer necessary.

At least homeopaths have not made expensive condensing boilers, which shut down in cold weather, compulsory, as John Prescott did in 2005.

At least astrologers have not driven millions of people into real hunger, perhaps killing 192,000 last year according to one conservative estimate, by diverting 5% of the world’s grain crop into motor fuel*.

That’s why it matters. We’ve been asked to take some very painful cures. So we need to be sure the patient has a brain tumour rather than a nosebleed.

Handing the reins of power to pseudoscience has an unhappy history. Remember eugenics. Around 1910 the vast majority of scientists and other intellectuals agreed that nationalizing reproductive decisions so as to stop poor, disabled and stupid people from having babies was not just a practical but a moral imperative of great urgency.

“There is now no reasonable excuse for refusing to face the fact,” said George Bernard Shaw*, “that nothing but a eugenics religion can save our civilization from the fate that has overtaken all previous civilizations.’’ By the skin of its teeth, mainly because of a brave Liberal MP called Josiah Wedgwood, Britain never handed legal power to the eugenics movement. Germany did.

Or remember Trofim Lysenko*, a pseudoscientific crank with a strange idea that crops could be trained to do what you wanted and that Mendelian genetics was bunk. His ideas became the official scientific religion of the Soviet Union and killed millions; his critics, such as the geneticist Nikolai Vavilov, ended up dead in prison.

Am I going too far in making these comparisons? I don’t think so. James Hansen of NASA says oil firm executives should be tried for crimes against humanity.  (Remember this is the man who is in charge of one of the supposedly impartial data sets about global temperatures.) John Beddington, Britain’s chief scientific adviser, said this year that just as we are “grossly intolerant of racism”, so we should also be “grossly intolerant of pseudoscience”, in which he included all forms of climate-change scepticism.

The irony of course is that much of the green movement began as heretical dissent. Greenpeace went from demanding that the orthodox view of genetically modified crops be challenged, and that the Royal Society was not to be trusted, to demanding that heresy on climate change be ignored and the Royal Society could not be wrong.

Talking of Greenpeace, did you know that the collective annual budget of Greenpeace, WWF and Friends of the Earth was more than a billion dollars globally last year? People sometimes ask me what’s the incentive for scientists to exaggerate climate change. But look at the sums of money available to those who do so, from the pressure groups, from governments and from big companies. It was not the sceptics who hired an ex News of the World deputy editor as a spin doctor after climategate, it was the University of East Anglia.

By contrast scientists and most mainstream journalists risk their careers if they take a skeptical line, so dogmatic is the consensus view. It is left to the blogosphere to keep the flame of heresy alive and do the investigative reporting the media has forgotten how to do. In America*, Anthony Watts who crowd-sourced the errors in the siting of thermometers and runs wattsupwiththat.com;

In Canada*, Steve McIntyre, the mathematician who bit by bit exposed the shocking story of the hockey stick and runs climateaudit.org.

Here in Britain,* Andrew Montford, who dissected the shenanigans behind the climategate whitewash enquiries and runs bishop-hill.net.

In Australia*, Joanne Nova, the former television science presenter who has pieced together the enormous sums of money that go to support vested interests in alarm, and runs joannenova.com.au.

The remarkable thing about the heretics I have mentioned is that every single one is doing this in his or her spare time. They work for themselves, they earn a pittance from this work. There is no great fossil-fuel slush fund for sceptics.

In conclusion, I’ve spent a lot of time on climate, but it could have been dietary fat, or nature and nurture. My argument is that like religion, science as an institution is and always has been plagued by the temptations of confirmation bias. With alarming ease it morphs into pseudoscience even – perhaps especially – in the hands of elite experts and especially when predicting the future and when there’s lavish funding at stake. It needs heretics.

Thank you very much for listening.

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Hari Seldon
November 3, 2011 9:06 am

To my reading he did not denegrate the existance of ball lightning, just it’s use as an explanation of crop circles.

November 3, 2011 9:13 am

Mr Lynn says:
November 3, 2011 at 8:30 am
For the empiricist, ‘belief’ is antithetical to science.

Surely you jest. Science, like mathematics, is founded upon assumptions and axioms, aka, “beliefs” or “faith”.
Every hundred years or so someone comes along and points out that with this or that assumption, your scientific model fails to adequately describe the reality that the latest instruments can measure.

Tim Clark
November 3, 2011 9:32 am

“Mike says:
November 3, 2011 at 8:58 am ”
Your history precedes you. We know who the hack is.

Jim Masterson
November 3, 2011 9:57 am

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Dave Springer says:
November 3, 2011 at 5:22 am
Try reading the book “The Edge of Evolution: The Search for the Limits of Darwinism” by biochemistry prof Mike Behe.
<<
Now you’re bringing out the big guns. In “Darwin’s Black Box,” Behe knew less about evolution than you do. Reading only books by individuals like Behe is a prime example of “confirmation bias.”
Jim

Mr Lynn
November 3, 2011 10:05 am

squareheaded says:
November 3, 2011 at 9:13 am

Mr Lynn says:
November 3, 2011 at 8:30 am
For the empiricist, ‘belief’ is antithetical to science.

Surely you jest. Science, like mathematics, is founded upon assumptions and axioms, aka, “beliefs” or “faith”.

Yes, the scientific method depends upon the assumptions that (a) there is a real world ‘out there’, and (b) we can improve our always-imperfect understanding of that world by propounding falsifiable statements about it, and testing them. I suppose you may say that the empiricist ‘believes’ in these assumptions; I prefer to say that he accepts them as a rational, practical basis for action, as opposed to any alternatives.
The epistemological assumptions underlying the scientific method are different from the axioms of mathematics, which are purely logical constructs that may be developed without any reference to an underlying reality.
/Mr Lynn

Dave Springer
November 3, 2011 10:26 am

Advanced Cosmology
Below is a recent paper from Leonard Susskind. He’s like top shelf amongst theoretical physicists and it’s a short shelf. He shares the shelf with Stephen Hawking but they have different opinions about things and made a famous wager about whether information could be destroyed or even hidden from view forever. Hawking said yes, it could be effectively destroyed by being hidden from sight and causal connection forever from the rest of the universe if it fell into a black hole. Susskind said no, you can’t cheat quantum physics by hiding the information forever, it will eventually be uncovered. After ten years of arguing, with every theoretical physicist in the world throwing in his two cents one way or the other, Hawking admitted defeat and paid off on the bet.
Susskind is in the habit of explaining his extreme dissatisfaction with accidental universes and while he doesn’t care for the intelligent design alternative he will, when pressed, admit it’s really the only game in town unless and until something superior comes along.
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-th/pdf/0208/0208013v3.pdf

Disturbing Implications of a Cosmological Constant
L. Dyson, M. Klebana, L. Susskind
Department of Physics
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-4060
Center for Theoretical Physics
Department of Physics
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Cambridge, MA 02139
Abstract
In this paper we consider the implications of a cosmological constant for the
evolution of the universe, under a set of assumptions motivated by the holographic
and horizon complementarity principles. We discuss the “causal patch” description
of spacetime required by this framework, and present some simple examples of cosmologies
described this way. We argue that these assumptions inevitably lead to very
deep paradoxes, which seem to require major revisions of our usual assumptions.

Read more at link above…

Dave Springer
November 3, 2011 10:40 am

squareheaded says:
November 3, 2011 at 9:13 am
“Science, like mathematics, is founded upon assumptions and axioms, aka, “beliefs” or “faith”.”
It’s worse than they think!
Western science is based upon the tenet that a rational universe was created by a rational God and populated with rational man, made after God’s own image, who could study and understand the creation.
The enlightenment itself is based upon that Judeo-Christian principle. The Catholic Church at one time funded all the major scientific institutions in the western world!
Before this time you had various pagan beliefs like Greek and Norse gods who were whimsical and did whatever they wanted. Mortals were mere playtoys for these gods and it was not possible to understand or predict what they would do next with the world. That world was neither rational, predictable, nor understandable.
How’s that for an axiom of science?

Bob Moss
November 3, 2011 10:43 am

“Mike says:
November 3, 2011 at 8:58 am
“He refers to McIntyre and McKitrick as debunking the “hockey stick,” but their work has been debunked.”
So I take it you still have Tijlander upside down or is it the stripbarks that are back under the shell?
It is hard to keep up.
Anyway, congratulations on your 500K of stimulus money to finance your communication sabbatical. Why you even have time for WUWT!
I do have to admit your new job passes the smell test for being shovel ready.

highflight56433
November 3, 2011 10:52 am

“I do not understand why religion and anti-religion have to be dragged kicking and screaming into questions of science….”
It is both a religion to adhere to science as it is to pseudoscience. Those who choose to practice the art of science are scientists. They faithfully promote those scientific values and ethics. We all enjoy the fruits of their work.
Furthermore, the divide between theory “X” and anti theory “X” creates circles of followers. Some followers are only following because they believe in theory “X” or anti-theory “x.”
From that premise we see the AGW crowd and those who deny such belief.
The AGW crowd seems to occasionally disperse anger, hatred, and threats of death to those in denial of their cause.
And so we see a parallel of the AGW faithful and certain other religious faith; for example Islam promotes the destruction of non-believers.
Consequently, we now have bloggers who are for one science or the other. And we choose between the two sides of an argument. The nasty comments that are condescending, rude, disrespectful, hateful, arrogant, are from which side? It would be revealing to do a comment search to see which crowd exhibits my claims.
Which side refuses to debate? Which side hides behind political favor?
Religion has to be part of the mix as it is part of our inquisitive nature to be curious and develop a reason for what we know. Laws are followed by religious consciousness, a belief system that provide an order, scientific or otherwise. Right and wrong. 🙂

Septic Matthew
November 3, 2011 11:00 am

Squareheaded: Creation is not an “ism”. It is a definition.
“Creationism” denotes two things:
1. The belief that an agent (“God”) created the universe;
2. The belief that each living species was created as a species, rather than having evolved by random variation and natural selection from earlier populations.
By counterposing creationism to evolution, Ridley invokes 2.

Roger Knights
November 3, 2011 11:05 am

Vinceo says:
November 3, 2011 at 8:13 am
Re: “Sun Spot , November 3, 2011 at 5:58 am

Knights says: November 3, 2011 at 5:18 am. He’s the author of the 2007 book, The Global Warming Delusion, here: http://alfin2100.blogspot.com/2007/03/global-warming-delusion-by-richard.html
Roger, the on-line bookstores all seem to not know about this book, is this a hoax or for real ?
If it’s for real where can I get a copy ?”

It’s a joke; a take off of Dawkins’ book, “The God Delusion”.

I just did a quick google and came up with the link to the joke book above, whose content I briefly glanced at, not realizing it was a joke. You seem to be correct, because subsequent googling has turned up links of the sort I expected. For instance, to his site, the Richard Dawkins Foundation (“For Reason and Science”) contains an endorsement of the editorial run three years ago in over 50 papers worldwide calling for action on AGW, here: http://alfin2100.blogspot.com/2007/03/global-warming-delusion-by-richard.html (I’m getting to be an old-timer; I remember when a thread about that editorial was a hot topic here on WUWT.)
That link was the first one shown in the list of googling for Richard Dawkins global climate change. The dozen or so links right beneath it seem, by their titles, to indicate he’s a conventional warmist, like most of his ilk. Here’s the clickable link to that google search:
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=richard+dawkins+global+climate+change&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Gareth Phillips
November 3, 2011 11:07 am

A useful guide to expanding the knowledge base. I don’t agree with everything he says (his antagonism against wind power suggests bias) but a remarkable lecture nonetheless.

Septic Matthew
November 3, 2011 11:09 am

Dave Springer: If the universe wasn’t created then how did it get here?
We can’t tell. We don’t know. No one knows. We don’t have any testable hypotheses (the existence of the cosmic microwave background supports one hypotheses about an ancient event, but not how it all got there for the event to occur.)
That can be said many ways.
The invention of belief to cover the lack of knowledge is a fundamental human trait, but that does not justify any particular belief so invented. The development of modern science and technology has shown that building an epistemology on untestable propositions has a low success rate.

Gary Crough
November 3, 2011 11:18 am

I could not get past the definition of science and pseudoscience which basically explains … things I believe in are science … things I don’t believe in are pseudoscience.
When one is following the scientific process they are doing science … if not, they are not doing science no matter what field they work in. When an organic gardener plants 5 varieties of beans to determine which does better under his conditions he is doing simple science (poising a question to nature). If he extrapolates his results to all locations (except as a null hypothesis still needing testing) he is still doing science … very bad science. If he takes the next step and starts controlling variables then he is more of a scientist than 99% of “climate scientist” (who pose their questions to a computer model not nature). I agree with the list of science / pseudoscience but it proves nothing and is less than helpful. Even so, here are a couple more examples:
1 Computer Science (my field) NOT science. It is 100% human contrived … it is logic, math and a useful field but (with the possible exception of sub-fields like semiconductor physics) not science. .
2 Scientology is not science it just incorporates “science” in its name; just as fraudulent a move as “computer Science”.
Maslow (A Theory of Human Motivation) pointed out understanding humans was an important field and should not be rejected as a field of study simply because the scientific tools of physics were not useful. Even so, the “social sciences”, wanting the legitimacy of “science” are hybrids at best. This does NOT make them less useful. What makes them less useful is pretending their findings are scientific when they are not. The basis of Climate Science (human created models) is anti-science … especially when these models are not even adjusted when Mother Nature proves them wrong. Climate “scientists” pose questions to models, not nature, and reject natures answers in favor of models … nothing is more anti-science than that.

Sun Spot
November 3, 2011 11:25 am

If Matt Ridley (a skeptic) and Richard Dawkins (a true believer) are friends I would like to be a fly on the wall when the atheist adjectives spew from Dawkins mouth.

R. Gates
November 3, 2011 11:26 am

Matt Ridley is one of my favorite writers and thinkers. I don’t agree with 100% of what he says, but I respect 100% of what he says because it is genuine, rational, and always challenging. If not posted here already, here is an excellent talk of his on TED. Highly recommended:
http://www.ted.com/talks/matt_ridley_when_ideas_have_sex.html
Thanks Anthony for posting this. It certainly should be read by skeptic and warmist alike.

bair polaire
November 3, 2011 11:35 am

Good lecture – but ball lightning is a bad example for balderdash.
I have five eyewitnesses of ball lightning in my own family. There is important scientific research done on plasma properties that resemble ball lightning. To cite just one example:
Long-living Plasmoids from a Water Discharge at Atmospheric Pressure / (B. Juettner et al.)
Abstract: Ball-like plasmoids were generated when discharging a capacitor bank via a water surface. In the autonomous stage after current zero they have diameters up to 0.2 m and lifetimes of some hundreds milliseconds, thus resembling ball lightning in some way.
http://plasma.physik.hu-berlin.de/publications/ICPIG-2007-Juettner.pdf

R. Gates
November 3, 2011 11:40 am

SteveSadlov says:
November 2, 2011 at 6:17 pm
1.2 deg C is actually a bit generous. Between innate negative feed backs and GCR flux, we’d be lucky to reach a 0.8 deg C rise. The peak may have already occurred and it may be downhill from here.
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If the were a normal interglacial witha a maximum CO2 level never exceeding 300ppm, you might be correct, or if CO2 and other greenhouse gases were not continuing to rise, you might be correct, or if the paleoclimate data didn’t show around 3C to 4.5C higher temps for similar amount of CO2, then you also might be correct. But given the fact that all these things have happened, or are happening, then you are likely incorrect.

R. Gates
November 3, 2011 11:47 am

bair polaire says:
November 3, 2011 at 11:35 am
Good lecture – but ball lightning is a bad example for balderdash.
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I don’t think he wasn’t saying ball lightning did not exist. He was saying it was not the cause of crop circles. Certainly Matt Ridley is well studied enough to know that ball lightning is a real, albeit exceptionally rare phenonmenon, studied by real scientists:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364682610001252
http://meetingorganizer.copernicus.org/EGU2009/EGU2009-6227.pdf
etc.

daveburton
November 3, 2011 11:50 am

I wrote:
November 2, 2011 at 11:09 am
“Sure there is, at least with ‘ballpark’ accuracy. Fire up MODTRAN, calculate the predicted output for 300 ppm (pre-anthropogenic), 400 ppm (current), and 600 ppm (doubled) CO2 levels. (Leave the other parameters alone.)…”
Jim Cripwell replied:
November 3, 2011 at 2:53 am
“This is the so called “Plank” method of estimation. It assumes that the structure of the atmospere does not change – e.g the lapse rate does not change, – and that all the estimations can be done by ONLY considering radiation effects. Neither assumption has ever been shown to be valid. If you can give me references as to why these assumptions are correct, I will reconsider my position”
Jim, I’m not familiar with that “Plank” terminology, but if you go back to Ridley’s lecture you’ll read that he explicitly named the 1.2 C figure as being “with no feedbacks operating.” Temperature lapse rate is just an observed effect, resulting from air circulation & convection patterns, radiation effects, heat transfer via the water cycle, Boyle’s law, etc., all except the last of which are affected by temperature changes. Ridley’s statement explicitly referred to the effect of CO2 alone, exclusive of such feedbacks.
Of course there are feedbacks operating in the real world: the positive ones that the IPCC identifies (increased temperature -> increased H2O vapor GHG, snow&ice albedo), and the negative ones (increased evaporation -> increased water cycle heat transfer, increased temperature differentials causing increased air movement, etc.). But Ridley was talking about the effect of CO2 by itself, without those feedbacks, as he made clear, so you really shouldn’t criticize him for not taking them into account.
The IPCC gives the effect w/o feedbacks as a modest +1.2 C for a doubling of CO2 (and Ridley doesn’t argue), MODTRAN calculates a slightly lower +0.89 C. Everyone who calculates it comes up with fairly similar numbers, so Ridley is right that “there is something close to consensus” about it.
Ridley then goes on to point out that “there is absolutely no consensus about the [supposed] net positive feedback,” and he’s right about that, too.
Dave

November 3, 2011 12:00 pm

Richard S Courtney says:
November 2, 2011 at 3:57 pm
“Following my request that the creationists be ignored, the atheists joined in to promote their religion. The contributions of those two irrational groups combined and this thread became swamped with their nonsense.”
Yes, I noticed that too. Perhaps we should look at one of the pillars of that atheist religion, the evolution that Ridley dragged in.
Evolution makes much use of radiometric dating to support its required milions and billions of years. The most accurate of these is the carbon kind. Radiocarbon dating relies on measurement of the ratio of C14 to C12, which measure was taken prior to the industrial revolution. The carbon isotopes obtained from a given sample are compared to what is considered to be a stable ratio. But few people give any thought to how that stability is determined.
It goes something like this: The ratio can be calculated to achieve equilibrium in ~15,000 years. Since the earth is obviously older than 15,000 years, the ratio is therefore in equilibrium. So far so good. Now to prove that something is as old as we’d like it to be, all we have to do is subject it to radiocarbon dating.
Anywhere else, that would be called circular reasoning, and confirmation bias, and reliance on an assumption. But not so in evolution, because evolution is “science”, and we already know that great age is required to explain the advent of life.
Several fields of science are currently corrupted by the universal acceptance of false ideas, not just climate science. To the extent that evolution relies on circular reasoning to force God out of the picture, evolution is just another false religion.

R. Gates
November 3, 2011 12:07 pm

Matt Ridley said: “So to say there is a consensus about some global warming is true; to say there is a consensus about dangerous global warming is false.”
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Indeed, and let’s say, even in a worst case scenario, that the world does warm by 3C to even 4.5C, as we saw during the mid-Pliocene, once all fast and slow feedbacks have fully kicked in. Explain why this would be “dangerous”. But as a start, define what is meant by “dangerous”.

November 3, 2011 12:23 pm

daveburton writes “Jim, I’m not familiar with that “Plank” terminology, but if you go back to Ridley’s lecture you’ll read that he explicitly named the 1.2 C figure as being “with no feedbacks operating.””
You are absolutely correct. However, in order to estimate the no-feedback sensitivity by this method, there has to be an assumption made that the “structure of the atmosphere does not change”. Otherwise the estimation is impossible to do. There is no justification that I can find for this assumption. The problem is that the surface of the earth does not radiate directly out to space, except for tiny IR windows. Radiation escapes the earth from the TOA, whatever that is. And, if the assumption cannot be justified, then the estimation is just plain wrong. The assumption, so far as I can see, assumes, amongst other things, that there is no change in lapse rate. Clearly, since lapse rate is controlled by convection (and latent heat), if the lapse rate changes, there must be a interaction between the radiation and convection factors, and you cannot estimate no-feedback climate sensitivity by only looking at the effect of radiation..

November 3, 2011 12:31 pm

Mr Lynn says:
November 3, 2011 at 10:05 am
The epistemological assumptions underlying the scientific method are different from the axioms of mathematics, which are purely logical constructs that may be developed without any reference to an underlying reality.

Epistemalarky. The language of science is mathematics. If that is not so, then science has nothing to say.
I doubt there exists a mathematical system that, given enough time, would not find its way into partly describing some aspect of reality. Advances in mathematics always seem to precede advances in science. Huh.

George E. Smith;
November 3, 2011 12:33 pm

Well I have no interest in getting into the “science” versus “faith” etc irreconcilable argument.
I would however recommend to one an all, the simple four word caveat: “We don’t know. ”
And add, that the failure to be able to provide a perfectly rational explanation for some apparently observed phenomenon, does NOT justify the acceptance of a perfectly irrational explanation.
So just say; “We don’t know.”
That said, I disagree with a lot of the nonsense that has been bandied about in many of the above posts. Specifically, those that say that “science” and “mathematics” themselves rest on “axioms”, and “faith” and acceptance of “unproven” ideas or concepts.
For starters, an AXIOM is not something that is accepted on FAITH. It is a simple statement of something that is taken BY DEFINITION to be true NO MATTER WHAT ( as Dr William Schockley would put it). Sets of axioms, along with RULES for manipulation; which themselves are as defined as the axioms make up a system of mathematics (in this case), and nothing that comes out of applying those axioms and rules, is dpendent on FAITH. They are only dependent on the axioms and the rules. The whole lot of it is of course complete fiction; we simply made it ALL up in our heads.
ALL of mathematics is COMPLETE FICTION;it has no validity outside the set of axioms and rules that defined it in the first place. There is NOTHING in mathematics, that actually EXISTS in the real universe. There are NO points or lines, or circles, or spheres, or any of those things that are common in mathematics.
x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = r^2 defines a three dimensional sphere, in ordinary Euclidean geometry.
There is nothing in that equation that would explain the existence of 8 km high mountains on planet earth; but then planet earth is NOT a sphere; nor is anything else in the universe.
Appartently, there is a theorem due to Kurt Godell that says that no system of mathematics such as described above, that does not contain questions that are legitimate questions within that specific system, but which cannot be decided within the rules of that system.
We can make up any set of axioms we like, and rules for manipulation; and then simply follw the evolution of that defined universe to see where it leads us. Maybe nowhere useful; but who knows, maybe there is a use.
Take the following set of axioms:
1/ Two POINTS define a LINE (which goes through those two points)
2/ Two LINES define a POINT (where the two lines intersect)
3/ There are at least FOUR Points.
I won’t go into the rules, although some are implied in the axioms, such as points being connectable by lines, and lines able to intersect. So evidently this is some sort of plane geometry, as in three dimensional Euclidean geometry, we know there are (straight) lines which don’t come anywhere near each other and never intersect. There are some other more advanced axioms and rules that put some meat on these bones, so that one can talk about plane conic sections; ellipses, parabolas, and hyperbolas, even circles, which are a special case of a conic section.
Well so you object to any two lines intersecting; parallel lines don’t intersect; well they don’t in Euclidean geometry. But this is NOT Euclidean geometry, and parallel lines DO intersect; it says so in axiom #2, whcih as I said we take as absolute truth BY DEFINITION.
Well if you ever looked along a long railroad track out to the horizon, they DO intersect, and you know for sure that they ARE parallel.
So this is called PROJECTIVE GEOMETRY, and per axiom #2, parallel lines DO intersect. They in fact intersect on “The Line at Infinity.”, which by convention one just draws at the edge of the page; pretty much like great artists put it, in their projective images.
Well I won’t bore you with the details, but ellipses become curves that do not touch the line at infinity, parabolas are curves that do touch the line at infinity at two coincident points, while hyperbolas are curves that cut the line at infinity at two non-coincident points. So what about circles, which in Euclidean geometry are special case ellipses. Well in this projective geometry, circles are defines as curves that intersect the line at infinity at two special points, called the circular points at infinity. Ergo, by definition, in (this) projective geometry, circles are special case hyperbolas, and also all circles intersect each other at the two circular point at infinity.
The first theorem of this projective geometry, proves the conjecture that there are at least seven (7) points. Axiom #3 only guarantees four points, but we can find three more using just those axioms.
Within the constraints of this projective geometry, you cannot prove there are any more than seven points; nor that there are not more points. So already Godell’s principle of undecidability rears its head.
So no; mathematics is not faith; it is pure fiction, and is anything we can develop from some set of axioms and manipulation rules that we decide to accept as true.
Likewise ALL of (theoretical) science is pure fiction; we simply make up models, and the mathematics necessary to play games with the theory, and describe exacly how our model will behave. But what we aim to do with our models, and theories, and the mathematics we made up to twiddle the knobs on our models, is to come up[ with a model that EMULATES what our experimental observations suggest that the real universe is behaving like. Our theories and models do NOT explain what the universe is doing, that is far too difficult to do; but we can and have constructed models that do a remarkably good job of performing in a manner similar to what we seem to be observing in the real universe.
So no; there isn’t any blind faith in our science dliberations. We invent the rules and axioms and we construct models according to those rules, and when they behave differently from what our observations say the universe is really doing, well we get out our tool kit, and we reform our model to try and make it behave more like reality.
Our model has use, only because our mathematics describes exactly what the model can do, and we can look for some matching behavior in the universe, and thus effectively perform experiments that nobody has ever done, with some degree of confidence that reality is not too different.