People send me things. Today it is a curious graph of the number of supernovae (dying stars) discovered versus the HadCRUT temperature data since 1960. There’s a good correlation. So at first glance you might conclude two things, 1) GCR’s, which are known to be the result of supernovae thanks to data gathered by the Chandra Space Telescope, are indeed influencing Earth’s temperature or 2) Earth’s AGW is killing stars, and aliens are correct to be concerned about Earth and may need to wipe us out to protect the Universe.
Our contributor at an observatory sheds more light on the subject. He writes:
Hi Anthony,
I am a senior research fellow at ICRAR (International Centre for Radio Astronomy Research) in Perth, Australia. I was studying the sample of supernovae (SNe) discovered in the last 50 years (source: Harvard-Smithsonian CfA List of SNe), and I discovered that the number of SNe discovered per year correlates pretty well with the temperature anomaly. I produced a plot, placed at the URL below. Clearly the temperature anomaly has a better correlation with the observed number of dead stars than with dead polar bears, tree rings, CO2 or number of pirates. This is proof that global warming is causing more stars to explode. It’s worse than we thought. We are killing the universe. We need more funding.
Best Regards–Rob
Dr Rob Soria
International Centre for Radio Astronomy Research
This person is all legit, he’s real and at ICRAR. The data appear so well correlated, it would seem to be a cinch to use this to apply for a research grant, no matter which premise you want to prove. The possibilities are tantalizing. But, let’s analyse the data first.
The first thing I asked for is the data source for Supernovae (I know where to get HadCRUT data), which he provided here:
http://www.cbat.eps.harvard.edu/lists/Supernovae.html
Sure enough, his work was replicable.
I spotted a couple of curious things though. Why the logarithmic graph on the right Y axis, and why only use data back to 1960, that favorite cutoff date for “hide the decline”?
Well there’s data, and then there’s data reporting bias. While it would be easy to conclude on this sample that there’s something worth further (funded) study, especially given the recent first results of the CERN CLOUD experiment, there’s a bit of a rub in the data. That rub has to do with the recent explosion of amateur astronomy and technology.
You see, around 1980 or so, affordable CCD detectors started to become available to the amateur astronomer, and in the decades that followed up to the present sensitivity increased 10x thanks to Peltier cooled CCD chips and other improvements in CCD imaging technology. Costs came down and you can now buy a good CCD detector for under $2000, often less than the cost of a good telescope.
So as a result, the number of detectors trained on the sky blossomed, and the number of supernovae detected by amateur astronomers soared. Hence the need for the logarithmic axis in the graph above. As for the cutoff date of 1960, well, um, the correlation doesn’t hold well before that. Thus, the decision was made to truncate the data prior to 1960. We figure if it was good enough for the hockey stick (which has been recently vindicated again) then it is good enough to do here to write a grant proposal.
Neither Rob nor I plan to write that proposal, but if any WUWT readers succeed in getting funded, I’ll happily publish a notice here.
So the moral of this story is: you can find short correlations in many things, such as correlating El Niño and Civil Wars, and truncating data is OK to make your point for the grant application and study, because you’ll be vindicated later if the study becomes popular and/or included in the IPCC AR5.
It also underscores the issue of reporting bias, which I’ve talked about again and again relating to the issue of bogus severe weather and AGW correlations, which simply don’t exist. They are a byproduct of improved radar systems, storm chasers, improved communications, and global 24/7 news gathering.
Caveat: For anyone reading with the composition of a neutron star, this essay is satirical, but with a real lesson: correlation is not causation.
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Yikes! Amateur astronomers are killing the stars!
PS why the lull after 1998?
REPLY: Good question. Technology maturation, CCD’s sensitivity has rather plateaued since the early advances – Anthony
“Well there’s data, and then there’s data reporting bias. While it would be easy to conclude on this sample that there’s something worth further (funded) study, especially given the recent first results of the CERN CLOUD experiment, there’s a bit of a rub in the data.”
Sceptic, DENIER!! We know how to deal with your type!! We know where you BLOG!!!!
Drat! You have discovered my location! I figured the gravity well of a neutron star would be a great place to hide, then some guy with a camera spots me… Oh, the humanity!
Thanks for that Sir A. I needed a good laugh.
Sounds convincing to me, AGW clearly causes supernovae – well.it’s just as stupid as most of the other things it is supposed to cause.
Pity the scales are logarithmic one side and linear the other – if they were the same, the IPCC might be tempted to use this chart..
Why do I get the feeling your should have emboldened the word “Caveat”….. maybe increased the font size and put exclamation marks by it. Just a feeling…… 🙂
Oh, I dunno. GCRs need time to travel. Present observations may help hind cast supernovae events in the distant past to forecast present incoming GCRs but our own familiar sun is the final arbiter of how many GCRs enter our atmosphere.
In the final analysis its the sun wot dunnit. (see, no funds required 🙂 )
I lovei t!
Every time I think it can’t get any better, it gets way better!
Anthony’s army marches onward!
I have always claimed that the hardness of the sidewalk in NY City caused global warming since they both went up together.
Now I conclude that the hardness of the sidewalk in NY city also causes supernovae.
The other blockbuster reason to believe in CAGW is “Our models don’t work without it.”
Of course they work without simulating clouds, ocean currents, cosmic rays or hundreds of other things, but not without aerosols which can be adjusted up or down as required and which have no embarrassing historical record.
Thanks for the report, I needed a good laugh. Maybe someone ca do a correlation between the number of stupid people or videos of stupid people and AGW.
Are we sure that Nasa’s aliens don’t have something to do with this. Maybe they are shooting the Cosmic rays at us or causing the super novas.
Well, given the already established relationship between Global Warming and number of pirates, does this mean that pirates are killing stars?
I predict that the night sky will be void of stars within the next 10 years.
To Richard111,
GCRs do need time to travel but from what I know they travel at the speed of light. The light from the supernova that the astronomers are detecting also needs time to travel but travels at the speed of light. So while the supernova and the GCRs they trigger may have been released thousands of years ago, they both arrive at the Earth at the same time.
What about a simpler explanation?
Perhaps CAGW is in fact reducing cloud cover, so allowing more supernovae to be seen.
Um, it looks like the temperature is leading the discovery curve. Since the discovery curve is actually based on improved technology, it follows that global warming causes technological growth. (Or did I miss something?) /sarc
I love examples of the abuse of reasoning like this.
Here is one….
Icecream causes Polio. Yup! That was the prevailing theory back in the day. polio outbreaks would rise amongst children during the summer. Summer + Children = Icecream in 1948
http://www.whale.to/v/sandler/fig8%20jpg.jpg.
Theodore says:
August 25, 2011 at 10:51 am
To Richard111,
GCRs do need time to travel but from what I know they travel at the speed of light. The light from the supernova that the astronomers are detecting also needs time to travel but travels at the speed of light. So while the supernova and the GCRs they trigger may have been released thousands of years ago, they both arrive at the Earth at the same time.
No problem. Just ask our friend Mr. Shore. I’m sure he can come up with a statistical theory of time.
May I offer a new title to this post:
“Dying Stars Produce Global Warming”
This is based on the theory that as dying stars reduce in number, so will cosmic rays, which reduces the amount of clouds which, without their shade, warms the earth. (Correlation may not be causation, but don’t throw anything out until it’s examined closely.)
(And who was I arguing with yesterday on the CERN CLOUD experiment results about this very topic?)
I have written on this site a number of times in order to try an assist humankind but to no avail. Therefore it is time I broke my cover – I am an alien (no not the cross border kind) sent to this planet in an effort to save you all from destroying our shared universe. As you can see from this article you are a destructive species now taken to destroying perfectly good stars in the universe against our wishes – therefore I have no choice but to recommend we terminate your primitive existence. Why couldn’t your people repair your Global Warming problem quietly?
Alternatively supernovae are warming the planet. 🙂
It sounds to me like it could further confirm the CLOUD experiment. Rise and fall of GCRs and clouds.
Would a suggested mechanism (with as much “common sense” scientific basis as certain others) help the grant proposal?
Clearly, it’s not the supernovae but the amateur astromomers themselves that are warming the globe. Every boyscout knows that, if you take a lense and focus the sunshine, you make lots of heat. These astronomers are now using lots of telescopes to do exactly the same thing with starshine while, incidentally, discovering more supernovae. Thus, the increasing temperatures and the supernovae are actually effects of the increase in astronomers – which reinforces the direction of the causality.
Before anyone pokes any of the very obvious holes in this theory, I’d just like to call them out as AstroDeniers, flat-universers and clearly funded by Big Lens – Carl Zeiss is the new Exxon!
But but but isn’t temperature inverse propotional to GCR intensity? More supernovae mean more clouds. More clouds mean colder weather. One of the lines should be upside down. But that’s also settled practice.
So what your trying to tell us Anthony is that because of the mass production of cheap CCD detectors supplying the demand of amateur astronomers, and all of the carbon intensive manufacturing involved is causing ‘catastrophic man made global warming’, the solution is clear! We need to put ban on amateur astronomy, close down all industry and cap ‘n trade Carbon Dioxide.
/JK
We already know from ice core records that future CO2 levels drive current temperatures. So why shouldn’t current Earth temperatures drive past supernovae explosions? Should be easy enough to model. You going to argue with computer modeling done by real bona fide scientists?