Is Bill Nye Smarter than a 5th Grader?

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Post by Ryan Maue

It’s a wonder why the media continue to trot out the likes of Bill Nye and Michio Kaku to speak about climate change and the weather when they already have folks like Al Roker and Sam Champion on the payroll.

For some unknown reason, Bill Nye showed up on Fox News Saturday afternoon to chat with Uma Pemmaraju about tornadoes  Video Link.  The meandering answers by Nye led to many quizzical looks by Uma, who got out of the way, and let Nye demonstrate his meteorological expertise.  One should ask, as Amy Ridenour does in her off-base, satirical videos, is Bill Nye smarter than a 5th grader when it comes to understanding the weather?

And a NPR blogger wonders what motivates Climate Change Deniers?

Jeff Poor, over at the Daily Caller (where Anthony is a contributor), has the transcript:

“Well, it is very difficult to connect tornado to climate change,” Nye said. “They are small even relative to the other big picture. But i will tell you this – last 11 years are the warmest 11 years on record, since the 1800s. And there is 4 percent more water vapor in the atmosphere than has been in the past. Four percent doesn’t sound like a lot but it is a huge amount. And if you think of the Earth as a disk in space just receiving sunlight, and there are on the other of one and half billion BTU [British thermal unit]-worth of heat than there used to be. When you get that much extra heat and water vapor in the air, you are going to have more storms.”

“Notice that the floods that are probably connected to the tornadoes,” he said. “These floods – there is no Katrina or Rita, it just rain rained. When water vapor changed from a liquid to a vapor it gives up heat high in the atmosphere, or medium height in the atmosphere. And that heat up there makes it churn up more and that leads to more storms. Now, people have talked about this for years and everybody, this is serious business. The tornado is very difficult to mathematically connect to climate change. But the rains and extra warmth in the atmosphere, the extra water in the atmosphere, those are the facts. That’s the real deal.

You know, we are patriots, we are from the U.S. – I am,” he said. “And you would like the U.S. to be the leader in addressing this problem. We would like to be out in front in trying to deal with whatever it is that is holding in the heat and creating all of the extra water vapor in the atmosphere. Tornadoes are almost certainly a consequence.

“Well, there is not that many other countries that have the configuration of North America to make the tornadoes,” Nye said. “And the word hurricane is a word coined in the Caribbean. This is a unique area in that regard. We have the Gulf of Mexico and we have this access of cold air from Canada or from the Arctic. And these two things conspire to move the jet stream, and then that helps to carry the extra water vapor over the heart of North America. So, it is unique place. You don’t have tornado in Norway. The weather is set up differently. But here in the U.S., it is a serious problem.”

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Bill Nye should just admit he knows nothing about the weather or climate change and let the professionals like Al Roker, Sam Champion, and Michio Kaku explain it to the rest of us.

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Anything is possible
May 28, 2011 6:00 pm

“It’s a wonder why the media continue to trot out the likes of Bill Nye and Michio Kaku to speak about climate change and the weather when they already have folks like Al Roker and Sam Champion on the payroll.”
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Not really. Facts are as dull as ditchwater.
Wild-ass climate scenarios with the potential to kill millions of people, on the other hand, are ratings gold.

Leon Brozyna
May 28, 2011 6:01 pm

Ryan Maue says:
May 28, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Political correctness isn’t confined to any particular part of the spectrum. It’s easy to get infected and not know it.

jorgekafkazar
May 28, 2011 6:01 pm

Ryan Maue says: “At least with this post, I’m not being pilloried by “conservatives” who subscribed to the “Think-Tank” reasoning. Amazing how easy a target Bill Nye is, but when you mention a fellow traveler like Amy Ridenour and her outfit, all hell breaks loose.”
Many reactions in the other thread were bizarre, shoot-from-the-hip responses, explicable only by careless reading. I tried to watch the NCPPR video in the press release link, but it was too childish to stomach. The press release itself was badly written and not very professional.

VinceP1974
May 28, 2011 6:02 pm

[I read the short transcript above, did not watch the video]
I love when the expression “the worst year for x since the 1950s”… Well what the heck was happening in the 1950s/or_whenever that made it the comparison point on which to declare “Global Warming” our current culprit.
No one on TV ever asks that.

Dan
May 28, 2011 6:09 pm

I watched this interview this morning and at one point I checked to see what channel I was watching and thought just maybe I had stopped at the rooster-gone-amok network.

Editor
May 28, 2011 6:11 pm

You don’t have tornado in Norway
“Tornadoes are exceedingly rare in Norway and the meteorologist on duty at Storm Weather Center need convincing after checking that conditions in Østfold did not seem to be conducive to the phenomenon, newspaper VG reports.
But after Brurok forwarded a picture taken with her mobile phone, meteorologist Frode H. Korneliussen was no longer in doubt.”
“Tornadoes are rarely powerful in Norway and as a rule just last for a few minutes. A reader of Aftenposten’s English service managed to photograph the formation of twin tornadoes while walking in Ustedalsfjorden near Geilo on July 23. These pictures can be seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/basirk/sets/72157594234423646/show/.”
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1435029.ece
It took one web search for Norway Tornado to find abundant evidence refuting Bill Nye’s assertion. He has obviously never done the same himself…
Why would anyone trust anything Bill “The Science Guy” Nye says when he appears to be making this stuff up as he goes…

VinceP1974
May 28, 2011 6:22 pm

I expect to see comments about your partisanship again.. attacking Democrats with that vicious picture 🙂

OK S.
May 28, 2011 6:31 pm

I’ve heard of Nye, but had to Bing Amy Ridenour. I think I’d trust Alexander Posey more about tornadoes:

Away out west, one day,
Two clouds were seen astray.
One came up from the sea,
Afar unto the south,
And drifted wearily;
One came out of the north.
Away out west that day,
A town was swept away.

OK S.

Vladimir
May 28, 2011 6:55 pm

I wonder what Mr. Nye was talking about when he referred to 1.5 billion BTU extra. That doesn’t sound like all that much extra energy, on a global scale. One thousand cubic feet of natural gas has a heat content of about 1 million BTU, so we’d be talking about the energy equivalent of a single 1,500 mcfd gas well, worth about $6,000 these days.
That’s a nice gas well, but not unusually large.

Editor
May 28, 2011 6:55 pm

Anything is possible says: May 28, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Facts are as dull as ditchwater.
Ouch! I haven’t hung out with much ditchwater, but I imagine it to be quite a boring companion… 🙂

Greg Cavanagh
May 28, 2011 6:55 pm

I would love to know what psychology is behind the need be the first to do something.
I see it in game blogs where posters simply jump onto a new thread to write “first”.
Then there is every polio spouting off about needing to lead the world in ______.
And every business leader, needing to be the leader in the field of _____.
Why?

pwl
May 28, 2011 7:11 pm

“if you think of the Earth as a disk in space just receiving sunlight” – Bill Nye
The Earth is a big disc in space? Wow, didn’t know that the flat earth theory was back in vogue!
The last time I was on an airplane traveling across the Pacific it sure looked like a round oblate spheroid with irregularly distributed mass leading to uneven gravity distribution to me. Didn’t know the Earth switched to into it’s “flat disk phase” since. Must have missed that event. How often does this switch oscillate between flat disk and oblate spheroid?
[;)]

DJ
May 28, 2011 7:13 pm

I think we need a reality TV contest, along the lines of American Idol, or So You Think You Can Dance….or Dancing With The Stars…..that gives us the national Global Warming Spokesperson.
American Climatologist, So You Think You Can Do A Clever Trick, or Dancing With The Data???? Produced by Nigel Lythgoe, with Rajendra Patchauri, Richard B. Alley, and Lady GaGa as judges….how could you go wrong!!
In the end, you’ll get a flamboyant and outspoken representative of the AGW movement who, while knowing nothing about climate, will be able to SELL climate change! With Billy Mays and Slap-Chop Vince out of the picture…We need someone who can sell an idea.
I wonder if Harold Camping is available?? Now there’s a guy with a track record!

mike sphar
May 28, 2011 7:18 pm

and all this time I thought Bill was just a 5th grader

dp
May 28, 2011 7:39 pm

Bill Nye the bus pass guy? He’s a stand-up comedian. Not even a funny one. He’s padding his income shagging bus passes for King County Metro, now.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/atomictaco/5742475632/sizes/l/in/photostream/
He got the Science Guy moniker while doing science gags on Almost Live!, a local comedy show here in Seattle. The host, Ross Schaffer, gave him the name and he ran with it. Still is. Is not, has not worked as a scientist. Who pay attention to him? You may as well study Joe Romm for all the science you’ll get.

R. Shearer
May 28, 2011 7:44 pm

To me Nye and Kuku are science clowns, paid for by the AGW establishment.

rbateman
May 28, 2011 7:54 pm

DJ says:
May 28, 2011 at 7:13 pm
I wonder if Harold Camping is available??

Now there’s a thought.
Sounds interesting.

JDN
May 28, 2011 8:12 pm

Saw Mr. Nye doing a CNN interview on the nuclear meltdown at Fukashima… as a nuclear expert. Let’s just say that “we’re going to take a break now and be right back with Bill Nye” isn’t exactly how it went. He’s not the only one. Recall how many fields Ben Stein is an “expert” in. How many areas is Newt Gingrich an “expert” in?

Jay Curtis
May 28, 2011 8:17 pm

My children, who are now 29 and 31, were early teenagers when Bill Nye was doing his science education schtick on Disney. The reason that they “trot out” Bill Nye the Science Guy is that he has credibility with this age group today, and his handlers can depend upon him to reliably say “the right thing” about climate change, thus keeping many true believers among the faithful.
Don’t worry about those deniers folks, yer ol’ buddy Bill Nye is here to tell ya that GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL!

ZT
May 28, 2011 8:17 pm

Bill Nye takes on the Norwegian footage…
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPx6Xd8Uoqc&w=480&h=390%5D

May 28, 2011 8:21 pm

Ric Werme says:
May 28, 2011 at 4:04 pm
I’m old enough to remember Mr. Wizard, aka Don Herbert. He likely is responsible for starting many more kids on the road to science degrees than Bill Nye.
http://www.mrwizardstudios.com/

Mr. Wizard is largely responsible for me becoming an engineer. I still remember that his wonderful program was sponsored by The Cereal Institute. Here is a link to an interview he gave in 2000 http://www.tvparty.com/lostmrwizard.html
He passed away in 2007 at the nice ripe age of 89. THANKS Mr. Wizard!

May 28, 2011 8:24 pm

Where did Mr Nye get the idea water vapor is going up ?
He is just “making stuff up”!
In reality water vapor has gone down continuously since 1950 or so.
http://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b58035970c0147e2fc6895970b-pi
or go to: http://climate4you.com/ [greenhouse gasses]
That simple fact shoots down CAGW all by itself because without feedback a doubling causes only 1 degree C of warming.
Without massive water vapor positive feedback there is no CAGW.

Editor
May 28, 2011 8:33 pm

ZT says: May 28, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Bill Nye takes on the Norwegian footage…
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPx6Xd8Uoqc&w=480&h=390

I think it would be better if you interspersed additional Norwegian footage, i.e.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMyQcY4sa1w&feature=related

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