New Year's Open Thread

Anthony is traveling and offline for another day or too. So [insert witty ctm like comment here] here’s another open thread for fun and amusement.

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john ratcliffe
December 31, 2010 4:20 pm

Happy New Year to one and all and may the next one bring prosperity and good health. To Anthony in particular, let’s hope that this year is much better than the last one was for your family. Your resiliance deserves utmost respect. Enjoy what you can of the holiday, AND SPEND SOME TIME WITH THE FAMILY!!!!!!!
regards
john r

James Barker
December 31, 2010 4:20 pm

Happy New Year to all. It’s 55F right now in Hammond, IN, USA. 🙂

Kev-in-UK
December 31, 2010 4:21 pm

Just 15 mins past midnite here in the UK. I wish all a Happy and Prosperous New Year.
and to the warmist contingent, I hope you all can gain some wisdom in the coming year!
as to the likes of Jones, Schmidt, Hansen et al ………I suggest a correspondence course in openness, humility and honesty would be of great benefit! – nevertheless, I hope that may you find peace and contentment and the ability to sleep at night! LOL
cheers to all!

mariwarcwm
December 31, 2010 4:22 pm

Blwyddyn Newydd Dda to Anthony and all from deepest Welsh Wales.

Bob Diaz
December 31, 2010 4:23 pm

OK, here’s a shameless plug for my time lapse video of decorating the City Of Torrance Rose Float.

Have a Happy New Year everyone.
Bob Diaz

CRS, Dr.P.H.
December 31, 2010 4:26 pm

CTM said: “So [insert witty ctm like comment here] here’s another open thread for fun and amusement.”
“So [HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE AT WUWT, AND THANKS TO ANTHONY & MODS!] here’s another open thread for fun & amusement.”
Thanks, CTM! Cheers & best, Charles the DrPH

Martin Brumby
December 31, 2010 4:26 pm

I’m sure everyone on here will be delighted that Robert Stewart Napier, Chairman of the MET Office and Thermageddonist Extraordinaire has been given a CBE in the New Years Honours List!
Pity the MET Office can’t be relied upon to correctly forecast whether it will be hot / cold / dry / wet / calm / windy more than a couple of days in advance, even with their £30 Million Supercomputer. Otherwise Napier might have got an even better gong.
Can our chum Phil Jones have much longer to wait?

David L. Hagen
December 31, 2010 4:27 pm

See Roy Spencer’s post Dec. 31, 2010 on Dec 11-31 on his:

mini-debate by e-mail during the last 3 weeks between myself and Andy Dessler over the question of whether cloud feedbacks in the climate system are positive or negative.

Dessler and Spencer Debate Cloud Feedback
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2010/12/dessler-and-spencer-debate-cloud-feedback/
Three cheers for their open debate.
In 2008 Bjorn Lomborg asked:

If we had an extra $75 billion to put to good use, where would we use it?

Economists ranked benefits/costs, finding that mitigating global warming came in worst among 30 projects. See: Global Crises Solutions Costs Benefits 2009 ISBN 52174122X
Summarized in the Copenhagen Consensus 2008
http://copenhagenconsensus.com/Projects/Copenhagen%20Consensus%202008-1.aspx
Bjorn Lomborg calls cost effective investment for humanitarian projects. The Copenhagen Consensus current front page highlights:
Economic Analysis of EU ’20/20/20′ Climate Plan

# Cost of ’20/20/20′ Policy will be in the region of €210 billion annually
# Benefits add up to just €7 billion
Professor Tol’s research shows. . .shows that the net cost to Europe will be in the region of €210 billion annually. This corresponds to 1.3% of GDP. . . . Using the conventional estimate that 1 tonne of carbon dioxide is likely to cause about $7 of damage, he found that the total benefits of the EU policy add up to just €7 billion. In other words, for every Euro it costs, the EU policy is likely to generate just three cents worth of benefits.

http://www.copenhagenconsensus.com/Default.aspx?ID=1431
THE COSTS AND BENEFITS OF EU CLIMATE POLICY FOR 2020 Richard S.J. Tol
See: Bjorn Lomborg, Smart Solutions to Climate Change: Comparing Costs and Benefits, Cambridge University Press (October 29, 2010) ISBN: 0521138566

The Expert Panel has found that drastic carbon cuts would be the poorest way to respond to global warming. . . . ‘cap and trade’ would be possibly 10-100 times worse [than carbon taxes]. . . need to invest significantly more into R&D . . . considering policies that are not at the top of the political agenda at the present time. . . Investing about $100 billion annually would mean that we could essentially resolve the climate change problem by the end of the century . . . we all need to start seriously focusing, right now, on the most effective ways to fix global warming.

Jesus’ stewards standard is The Parable of the Bags of Gold Matthew 25:14-29 NIV
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025:14-29&version=NIV
Forcing taxpayers to pour trillions of dollars into black holes with 97% loss does not appear to be a prudent investment. I endorse Lomborg’s call for $100 billion/year R&D to develop cost effective alternatives. That could provide strong returns.

December 31, 2010 4:27 pm

I two can play at that game.
Too my to friends, happy new year two you. My wish is two make a turd friend this year.

James Sexton
December 31, 2010 4:28 pm

Off for some fun seeing the new year in.
Best wishes to all. May this year be even better than the last. Happy New Year!
James “suyts” Sexton

R. de Haan
December 31, 2010 4:30 pm
DocMartyn
December 31, 2010 4:31 pm

Happy New Year everyone.
Does anyone have a link to Ar/N2 ratios in ice-cores ?

Mark Hirst
December 31, 2010 4:32 pm

Happy New Year from Stanley Idaho….. -28C tonight brrrrrrr……

Stan
December 31, 2010 4:35 pm

Charles, the DMI Solar Temperature link along the right side (just above the SOHO MDI link) erroneously points to the Sea Ice page. Can you fix that? Thx!
(Can anyone tell I’m not drinking? :^))

JDN
December 31, 2010 4:47 pm

Looks like Slashdot is calling for a solar minimum or at least reporting that others are saying such things:
http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/12/31/2057218/Our-Lazy-Solar-Dynamo-mdash-Hello-Dalton-Minimum
In another few months, it will be mainstream and, then, we’ll have a hot summer somewhere on the planet and everyone will forget until next year.

danj
December 31, 2010 4:47 pm

I am very appreciative of this site and I have learned much here during this year. I became interested in this subject when I heard Dr. John Christy make a presentation to a small group in my home state several years ago, long before Climategate arrived. Though my university training was in liberal arts major and not science, I am appalled at how science is being debased by some in this overall debate. Kudos to Anthony, Charles, and all of the contributors for bringing important information to the fore in this hotly debated issue…DJ

Stan
December 31, 2010 4:51 pm

I see that NOAA have posted the sunspot number for today (at 23), since it’s just past midnight UTC. That gives us a total of 682 for the month, or an average of 22.0 for the month, virtually unchanged from November’s 21.6.

Al Gored
December 31, 2010 4:53 pm

Happy New Year to Anthony and everyone who participates with their great articles and discussion comments. Every day is a learning experience here, and an entertaining one.
Looking forward to what 2011 brings. Have we reached a tipping point? Will Hansen’s head finally explode? Did Al Gore melt away permanently? Will they invent a pill for Restless Climate Syndrome? How much colder will The Warming get?

Editor
December 31, 2010 4:58 pm

So, 2010 will not likely pan out to be the warmest year in the ever-changing record books. But, the real question is this: where will 2011 rank? How cold will the first 3-4 months of 2011 be? La Nina — and a powerful one at that will persist well into Summer 2011. The SSTs globally are a LOT cooler than last year — and cooler than the 30-year mean in many spots.
So, in my estimation and long-range prognostication, 2011 could end up being the coolest year globally in _____ years…
Reply: I already lost my bet to Tom P about 2010. I emailed him asking how he would like to be paid, and he has not responded. I think I have a shot of winning 2011, which is a bigger bet. ~ ctm

u.k.(us)
December 31, 2010 5:05 pm

u.k.(us) says:
December 31, 2010 at 2:46 pm
“Anthony is traveling and offline for another day or too.”
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Should be, day or “two”, or “2″.
Happy New Year, too all, thanks for all the hard work.
A “snip” of this comment would make me happy 🙂
[we can’t all be perfect all the time ~ac]
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That’s why I suggested the comment be SNIPPED.

Al Gored
December 31, 2010 5:08 pm

“Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.
There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period.”
–Michael Crichton, The Caltech Michelin Lecture, 17 January 2003

Curiousgeorge
December 31, 2010 5:12 pm

Winter, Summer, Spring, and Fall. All that is for our own convenience. Mother Nature couldn’t care less about the Human calendar. If we had any sense we would not persist in trying to impose our time keeping on astronomical and planetary events.

KD
December 31, 2010 5:18 pm

Thank you for a terrific resource. For one who loves to learn there is nothing better.
Happy New Year to all.
KD

December 31, 2010 5:20 pm

1.21 AM UK time and so far the coldest year since CD’s began.

pat
December 31, 2010 5:22 pm

happy new year folks. here’s one to make your blood boil!
30 Dec: SF Chronicle: Peter Gleick: The 2010 Climate B.S.* of the Year Award
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/gleick/detail?entry_id=80061