The Antithesis

You know, in science, there was once this thing we called the Theory of Multiple Working Hypotheses. Anathema (a formal ecclesiastical curse accompanied by excommunication) in modern climate science. So, in juxtaposition to the hypothesis of future global climate disruption from CO2, a scientist might well consider an antithesis or two in order to maintain ones objectivity.

One such antithesis, which happens to be a long running debate in paleoclimate science, concerns the end Holocene. Or just how long the present interglacial will last.

Looking at orbital mechanics and model results, Loutre and Berger (2003) in a landmark paper (meaning a widely quoted and discussed paper) for the time predicted that the current interglacial, the Holocene, might very well last another 50,000 years, particularly if CO2 were factored in. This would make the Holocene the longest lived interglacial since the onset of the Northern Hemisphere Glaciations some 2.8 million years ago. Five of the last 6 interglacials have each lasted about half of a precession cycle. The precession cycle varies from 19-23k years, and we are at the 23kyr part of the range now, making 11,500 years half, which is also the present age of the Holocene.

Which is why this discussion has relevance.

But what about that 6th interglacial, the one that wasn’t on the half-precessional “clock”. That would be MIS-11 (or the Holsteinian) which according to the most recently published estimate may have lasted on the order of 20-22kyrs, with the longest estimate ranging up to 32kyrs.

Loutre and Berger’s 2003 paper was soon followed by another landmark paper by Lisieki and Raymo (Oceanography, 2005), an exhaustive look at 57 globally distributed deep Ocean Drilling Project (and other) cores (Figure 1), which stated:

Recent research has focused on MIS 11 as a possible analog for the present interglacial [e.g., Loutre and Berger, 2003; EPICA community members, 2004] because both occur during times of low eccentricity. The LR04 age model establishes that MIS 11 spans two precession cycles, with 18O values below 3.6o/oo for 20 kyr, from 398-418 ka. In comparison, stages 9 and 5 remained below 3.6o/oo for 13 and 12 kyr, respectively, and the Holocene interglacial has lasted 11 kyr so far. In the LR04 age model, the average LSR of 29 sites is the same from 398-418 ka as from 250-650 ka; consequently, stage 11 is unlikely to be artificially stretched. However, the June 21 insolation minimum at 65N during MIS 11 is only 489 W/m2, much less pronounced than the present minimum of 474 W/m2. In addition, current insolation values are not predicted to return to the high values of late MIS 11 for another 65 kyr. We propose that this effectively precludes a ‘double precession-cycle’ interglacial [e.g., Raymo, 1997] in the Holocene without human influence.”

 

Figure 1. The past 5 million years of climate from 57 globally distributed sediment cores. (a general definition of an interglacial since the MPT is the oxygen 18/oxygen 16 isotope ratio must drop to 3.6 parts per mil)

To bring this discussion up to date, Tzedakis (Figure 2, his figure 3), in perhaps the most open peer review process currently being practiced in the world today (The European Geosciences Union website Climate of the Past Discussions) published a quite thorough examination of the state of the science related to the two most recent interglacials, which like the present one, the Holocene (or MIS-1) is compared to MIS-19 and MIS-11, the other two interglacials which have occurred since the Mid Pleistocene Transition (MPT) and also occurred at eccentricity minimums. Since its initial publication in 2009, and its republication after the open online peer review process again in March of this year (2010), this paper is now also considered a landmark review of the state of paleoclimate science. In it he also considers Ruddiman’s Early Anthropogenic Hypothesis, with Ruddiman a part of the online review. Tzedakis’ concluding remarks are enlightening:

“On balance, what emerges is that projections on the natural duration of the current interglacial depend on the choice of analogue, while corroboration or refutation of the “early anthropogenic hypothesis” on the basis of comparisons with earlier interglacials remains irritatingly inconclusive.”

Figure 2. Tzedakis (2010) comparing the Holocene with the previous 4 interglacials.

An astute reader might have gleaned that even on things which have happened, the science is not that particularly well settled. Which makes consideration of the science being settled on things which have not yet happened dubious at best.

As we move further towards the construction of the antithetic argument, we will take a closer look at the post-MPT end interglacials and the last glacial for some clues.

Higher resolution proxy studies from many parts of the planet suggest that the end interglacials may be quite the wild climate ride from the perspective of global climate disruption.

Boettger, et al (Quaternary International 207 [2009] 137–144) abstract it:

“In terrestrial records from Central and Eastern Europe the end of the Last Interglacial seems to be characterized by evident climatic and environmental instabilities recorded by geochemical and vegetation indicators. The transition (MIS 5e/5d) from the Last Interglacial (Eemian, Mikulino) to the Early Last Glacial (Early Weichselian, Early Valdai) is marked by at least two warming events as observed in geochemical data on the lake sediment profiles of Central (Gro¨bern, Neumark–Nord, Klinge) and of Eastern Europe (Ples). Results of palynological studies of all these sequences indicate simultaneously a strong increase of environmental oscillations during the very end of the Last Interglacial and the beginning of the Last Glaciation. This paper discusses possible correlations of these events between regions in Central and Eastern Europe. The pronounced climate and environment instability during the interglacial/glacial transition could be consistent with the assumption that it is about a natural phenomenon, characteristic for transitional stages. Taking into consideration that currently observed ‘‘human-induced’’ global warming coincides with the natural trend to cooling, the study of such transitional stages is important for understanding the underlying processes of the climate changes.”

Hearty and Neumann (Quaternary Science Reviews 20 [2001] 1881–1895) abstracting their work in the Bahamas state:

“The geology of the Last Interglaciation (sensu stricto, marine isotope substage (MIS) 5e) in the Bahamas records the nature of sea level and climate change. After a period of quasi-stability for most of the interglaciation, during which reefs grew to +2.5 m, sea level rose rapidly at the end of the period, incising notches in older limestone. After brief stillstands at +6 and perhaps +8.5 m, sea level fell with apparent speed to the MIS 5d lowstand and much cooler climatic conditions. It was during this regression from the MIS 5e highstand that the North Atlantic suffered an oceanographic ‘‘reorganization’’ about 118.73 ka ago. During this same interval, massive dune-building greatly enlarged the Bahama Islands. Giant waves reshaped exposed lowlands into chevron-shaped beach ridges, ran up on older coastal ridges, and also broke off and threw megaboulders onto and over 20 m-high cliffs. The oolitic rocks recording these features yield concordant whole-rock amino acid ratios across the archipelago. Whether or not the Last Interglaciation serves as an appropriate analog for our ‘‘greenhouse’’ world, it nonetheless reveals the intricate details of climatic transitions between warm interglaciations and near glacial conditions.”

See Figure 3 (also figure 3 in their study)

Figure 3. Rapid Sea Level Spike at the end of MIS-5, the Eemian.

and Figure 4 (figure 5 in their study).

Figure 4. The MIS-5e notch (photo A) and modern notch (photo B) (Hearty and Neumann, 2001, figure 5).

The picture which emerges is that the post-MPT end interglacials appear to be populated with dramatic, abrupt global climate disruptions which appear to have occurred on decadal to centennial time scales. Given that the Holocene, one of at least 3, perhaps 4 post-MPT “extreme” interglacials, may not be immune to this repetitive phenomena, and as it is half a precession cycle old now, and perhaps unlikely to grow that much older, this could very well be the natural climate “noise” from which we must discern our anthropogenic “signal” from.

If we take a stroll between this interglacial and the last one back, the Eemian, we find in the Greenland ice cores that there were 24 Dansgaard-Oeschger oscillations (Figure 5, originally figure 1. Sole et al, 2007), or abrupt warmings that occurred from just a few years to mere decades that average between 8-10C rises (D-O 19 scored 16C). The nominal difference between earth’s cold (glacial) and warm (interglacial) states being on the order of 20C. D-O events average 1470 years, the range being 1-4kyrs.

Figure 5. Dansgaard-Oeschger oscillations with their cycle designations. (Sole et al, 2007)

Sole, Turiel and Llebot writing in Physics Letters A (366 [2007] 184–189) identified three classes of D-O oscillations in the Greenland GISP2 ice cores A (brief), B (medium) and C (long), reflecting the speed at which the warming relaxes back to the cold glacial state:

“In this work ice-core CO2 time evolution in the period going from 20 to 60 kyr BP [15] has been qualitatively compared to our temperature cycles, according to the class they belong to. It can be observed in Fig. 6 that class A cycles are completely unrelated to changes in CO2 concentration. We have observed some correlation between B and C cycles and CO2 concentration, but of the opposite sign to the one expected: maxima in atmospheric CO2 concentration tend to correspond to the middle part or the end the cooling period. The role of CO2 in the oscillation phenomena seems to be more related to extend the duration of the cooling phase than to trigger warming. This could explain why cycles not coincident in time with maxima of CO2 (A cycles) rapidly decay back to the cold state. ”

“Nor CO2 concentration either the astronomical cycle change the way in which the warming phase takes place. The coincidence in this phase is strong among all the characterized cycles; also, we have been able to recognize the presence of a similar warming phase in the early stages of the transition from glacial to interglacial age. Our analysis of the warming phase seems to indicate a universal triggering mechanism, what has been related with the possible existence of stochastic resonance [1,13, 21]. It has also been argued that a possible cause for the repetitive sequence of D/O events could be found in the change in the thermohaline Atlantic circulation [2,8,22,25]. However, a cause for this regular arrangement of cycles, together with a justification on the abruptness of the warming phase, is still absent in the scientific literature.”

Figure 6. Sole et al (2007) D/O oscillation classes.

In their work, at least 13 of the 24 D-O oscillations (indeed other workers suggest the same for them all), CO2 was not the agent provocateur of the warmings but served to ameliorate the relaxation back to the cold glacial state, something which might have import whenever we finally do reach the end Holocene. Instead of triggering the abrupt warmings it appears to function as somewhat of a climate “security blanket”, if you will.

Therefore in constructing the antithesis, and taking into consideration the precautionary principle, we are left to ponder if reducing CO2’s concentration in the late Holocene atmosphere might actually be the wrong thing to do.

The possibility consequently exists that at perhaps precisely the right moment near the end-Holocene, the latest iteration of the genus Homo unwittingly stumbled on the correct atmospheric GHG recipe to perhaps ease or delay the transition into the next glacial. Under the antithesis “Skeptics” and “Warmists” thus find themselves on the mutual, chaotic climate ground where the efficacy of CO2 as a GHG had better be right.

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Anonymous Howard
December 31, 2010 11:34 am

Lucy Skywalker says: (December 30, 2010 at 2:33 pm)

I had to redo the Lisieki-Raymo chart and put it all on one line, to see all this clearly.

Already available on Wikipedia.

Anonymous Howard
December 31, 2010 12:18 pm

A few quick comments:
* As you say, Lisieki and Raymo in Paleoceanography (not Oceanography), propose that the current NH summer insolation minimum of 474 W/m2 is too low to allow for a “‘double precession-cycle’ interglacial” when compared to MIS-11. But Archer and Ganopolski (2005) conclude that an increase in pCO2 results in a deeper minimum in summertime insolation being required to initiate glaciation.
* Your digression into D-O events seems to be off-topic as they occurred during a glacial period and were most likely caused by energy oscillations within the ocean-climate (cycles in deep water circulation patterns and ice-shelf building) rather than responses to external forcing (orbital or otherwise).

Laurence M. Sheehan, PE
December 31, 2010 12:52 pm

It is quite clear to me that a whole lot of “scientists” need to repeat grade school arithmetic. There is a problem of notation, since there is no notation to distinguish a rounded up number from an integer, but treating rounded up numbers as if they were all integers is arithmetical madness.
When programming in C++, the name of a variable distinguishes whether the variable is an integer or a rounded up number.
I see such nonsense these modern days. Such as trying to compare temperature data from before the mercury thermometer, (must have been air thermometers, notorious for inaccuracies, and few indeed of them, exceedingly few locations) with modern thermometers. “The chilliest on record was 1683/84, when the average was -1.17C and the River Thames froze over for two months. ” That would be plus or minus how many degrees?
Now history says that the River Thames did freeze over, but muddled thinking that -1.17C is somehow an accurate temperature for “Briton” is absurd, just as attempting/pretending to determine the average temperature of a small town with an area of a couple of square miles today is absurd.
Just more grist for those who would spread panic.
The Earth rotates on its axis, which causes the winds to blow. Actually, the rotation of the atmosphere is slower than the rotation of the surface, and disturbed greatly by the roughness (greatly varying coefficients of friction between the surface and the atmosphere) Perhaps some knowledge of fluid dynamics would come in handy. Laminar flow of a fluid is quite predictable. Turbulent flow is completely unpredictable. Air is a compressible fluid, with viscosity.

tregembo
December 31, 2010 1:26 pm

“Your digression into D-O events seems to be off-topic as they occurred during a glacial period and were most likely caused by energy oscillations within the ocean-climate (cycles in deep water circulation patterns and ice-shelf building) rather than responses to external forcing (orbital or otherwise).”
I would disagree, the same signals are present during the interglacial, (though severly attenuated as the system has a saturated upper rail), but clearly present and operative as the RWP, MWP and others. This image has the divisions set at 1168 to show the random DO events during both the glacial and interglacial periods.
http://s852.photobucket.com/albums/ab89/etregembo/?action=view&current=1168yrcycle.gif
Zoomed in for the Interglacial (RWP, CWP, etc):
http://s852.photobucket.com/albums/ab89/etregembo/?action=view&current=GISP2-Zoom.jpg

Sal Minella
December 31, 2010 1:49 pm

Thanks Tom In Florida, that’s my pathogenic purpose.

phlogiston
December 31, 2010 4:32 pm

Bill Illis says:
December 30, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Vince Causey says:
December 30, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Bill Illis,
Right now, the winter snow (except for high elevations) melts on Ellesmere Island and northern Greenland in the summer. The Arctic sea ice melts back at 75N in the summer. If the summer solar insolation is not going decline very much at this latitude for at least 50,000 years, the ice-Albedo-feedback will not kick in. The forecasts say it is not going to happen for probably 170,000 years. The summer sunshine will be war enough to melt the winter snow and no additional glaciers will build up.
What you are saying essentially is that the current (Pleistocene) glacial epoch is over. That is pretty big news, if correct.

Tom in Florida
December 31, 2010 4:35 pm

Sal Minella says: {December 31, 2010 at 1:49 pm}
I hope you realize I was referring to your screen name in jest. 🙂

grayman
December 31, 2010 6:26 pm

Great post; went over my head a bit but i caught the gist of it. The climate scienctist still do not know! Thats what i think. Climate changes always has always will. IMO this world is full of IDIOTS and most of them are not USEFULL. Stop the world i want to get off!

phlogiston
January 1, 2011 8:43 am

Tom in Florida says:
December 31, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Sal Minella says: {December 31, 2010 at 1:49 pm}
I hope you realize I was referring to your screen name in jest. 🙂
The effect would be clearer if the screen name were “Sal Monella”. Or maybe Bob Tulism, or even Campilo Bakta.

Anonymous Howard
January 4, 2011 7:32 am

tregembo says: (December 31, 2010 at 1:26 pm)

“Your digression into D-O events seems to be off-topic as they occurred during a glacial period and were most likely caused by energy oscillations within the ocean-climate (cycles in deep water circulation patterns and ice-shelf building) rather than responses to external forcing (orbital or otherwise).”

I would disagree, the same signals are present during the interglacial, (though severly attenuated as the system has a saturated upper rail), but clearly present and operative as the RWP, MWP and others.

Granted, but still, how would this relate to McClenney’s opinion that the current interglacial is at an end? (At least, I think that’s what his point was; I have to admit the whole post was a bit too meandering for my short attention span.) Holocene D-O events are also mostly likely intrinsic cycles in our ocean-climate system (see Sections IV and VI in this 2001 synthesis by Maslin). So it’s still a digression, IMO.
The same mechanisms may be involved in the triggering of glaciation, but only if nudged by additional external forcing, right?
Anyway, McClenney’s conclusion that gasifying a trillion tons of carbon was a good thing is only justified if the resultant positive forcing is exactly equal in magnitude and timing to the negative orbital forcing he must suspect is occurring (and ignoring other effects such as ocean acidification). This exercise comes nowhere close to demonstrating that… or even attempting to demonstrate that.
All of the studies that I’ve read, including the ones McClenney quotes above (at least the ones I could track down; ever heard of hypertext?), either ignore anthropogenic effects or emphatically agree that anthropogenic warming will be large enough to overwhelm any possible orbital effects.

kwik
January 25, 2011 12:27 pm

Ed Butt says:
December 30, 2010 at 10:52 am
“….and other possibly very relevant factors such as deforestation which only began about 5000 years ago….”
There was a chapter about this in Lomborgs book. His curves showed that the amount of forest has been more or less stable since we stopped building wooden armadas for Nelson and other admirals. In other words; deforestation in a global sense is really a myth.
That doesnt mean that there isnt some local problems here and there.

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