From the Independent, March 20th, 2000:
However, the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”.
“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said.
According to reports I’ve read, that is the Independent’s most viewed story of the past 10 years. It has become the modern equivalent of the famous “Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus“.
Now, for the second year in a row, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales is covered with snow. Meanwhile, AGW proponents like George Monbiot are furiously spinning to make it look like AGW causes more snow, rather than less, as the CRU scientist said 10 years ago.
(Update) WUWT commenter Murray Grainger writes:
The very same Independent has already published the rebuttal:
Expect more extreme winters thanks to global warming, say scientists
It isn’t working. Give it up kids.
I was alerted in Tips and Notes to this image from sat24.com by WUWT reader Joel Heinrich, but found an even better one from the Aqua satellite. See below.
Here is the image from the AQUA satellite, as you can see, except for a small part in the Southwest, snow is everywhere.
Click image to enlarge.
The image above has been cropped and annotated. Original source here
See last year’s image here
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It’s very unusual for Ireland to be mostly covered in the white stuff.
Oh the weather outside is frightfull….
And a Merry WHITE Christmas to all in the UK and Ireland.
The ancestral homes of most of my clan (with honorable mention to the Vikings who came in to those places long ago…)
It would be interesting to document the view of global warming from the early days to the present with all the shifting of the goal posts and renaming of the idea to accommodate the events that went the wrong way for CAGW. This morphing of a theory to chase the inconvenient events would be an instructive psychology of this process.
Now that Anthropogenic Global Warming or Anthropogenic Climate Change or Anthropogenic Climate Disruption is the explanation for everything, it is clear that we have seen the birth of a new religion.
Science it is not.
Excellent idea Gary….
Isn’t this the second time in the same year too?
Wonder if that gray “smudge” in east-central England is just less snow, or black-carbon from industrial plants.
So why is David Viner still employed as a “senior research scientist” at CRU since the only applicable part of his title may be “senior”?
The very same Independent has already published the rebuttal:
Expect more extreme winters thanks to global warming, say scientists
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/expect-more-extreme-winters-thanks-to-global-warming-say-scientists-2168418.html
It’s been gloriously cold, sunny here today, in Devon, SW England, crisped snow lies on the ground glittering in the Sun and tonight is likely to be *extremely* cold. And, I don’t deny that reality (or the recent years of warm weather) for a second.
I also know what the global temperature trend is…
Anthony? Turn your computer off, go and enjoy Christmas with your family.
Do it NOW
Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you and your family
Take care
Warren in NZ
Being wrong about most everything carries no penalty in a world where mainstream media assists in reinventing reality. In a world where folks will substitute a media account for what they can see outside their own windows, “truth-telling” is a lonely and impoverished profession.
Well, a Happy Merry White Christmas and New Years to all the folks in that beautiful land. (Here too; 355 mm or 14 inches on the 24th with a bit more each day — big storm coming in about a week)
I wonder if GB is sinking into the sea from all that extra weight?
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I wrote a bit for Tips & Notes about sea level after seeing photos in the WSJ regarding villages in GB. Could we have a discussion during Anthony’s sabbatical on an open thread. Doesn’t have to be technical. Those that live near or visit coastal places could relate info from family.
What I wrote earlier is short so I’ll repeat it here:
TIPS & NOTES 12/7/2010
Sea level?
In its Sat/Sun edition (Nov. 27-28) the Wall Street Journal had a review (by Ferdinand Mount) of a book titled “Villages of Britain” authored by Clive Aslet. An accompanying photo (b/w) of Tobermory, Isle of Mull (56.622691, -6.06716) shows a row of seaside buildings (very colorful in Web images). One web reference claims ‘Tobar Mhoire’ (Well of Mary) has been a small settlement here from the earliest times, while the modern Tobermory was established in 1789. This coast seems to be rather fixed relative to sea level. See the masthead photo here and the photo below that:
http://tour-scotland-photographs.blogspot.com/2010/04/old-photograph-tobermory-scotland.html
Another WSJ photo shows the ruins of Saint Andrew’s Church on the Suffolk coast at Covehithe (52.376516, 1.705589). This site has pictures, including of the hogs and their houses. Covehithe seems to have been a much larger settlement at one time, apparently washed away by the sea. This site
http://www.aboutbritain.com/towns/covehithe.asp
explains:
“The village of Covehithe was previously known as North Hales, in which time it was much larger than it is today due to the sea encroaching more and more each year, the extent of this can be seen with ordinance survey maps.”
There seems to be little on the Web regarding Covehithe but for this coast there is a long history and much information; here is a link to everybody’s favorite “don’t use” site:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunwich
This place is 12.3 km south of Covehithe (52.277197, 1.632324).
“Dunwich was the capital of East Anglia 1500 years ago and was a prosperous seaport and centre of the wool trade during the Early Middle Ages, with a natural harbour formed by the mouths of the River Blyth and the River Dunwich, but the harbour and most of the town has since been lost to coastal erosion. The town’s decline began in 1286 when a sea surge hit . . . ”
Examining these two places it is hard to draw the conclusion that one of Earth’s biggest threats is sea level rising because of the combustion of carbon based fuel.
I don’t get it!! If rising Co2 levels is causing a warmer planet and creating more snow and a colder northern hemisphere then wouldn’t reducing Co2 levels cause a colder planet and create less snow & ice in the northern hemisphere? or is it all Bull?
Or;
If the rise in Co2 levels are going to create a warmer planet then wouldn’t the reduction of Co2 levels create a colder planet?
Another thing I dont get! Those two countrys covered with snow and Ice they have to pay 100+ billion in taxes because some are saying the planet getting is too warm, How much colder do they want the planet to be? and why is the media not Informing the public about this?.
What is going on? am I losing my freaking mind?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/expect-more-extreme-winters-thanks-to-global-warming-say-scientists-2168418.html
“The researchers used computer models to assess the impact of the disappearing Arctic sea ice, particularly in the area of the Barents and Kara seas north of Scandinavia and Russia, which have experienced unprecedented losses of sea ice during summer.”
I wonder how the Russian convoys of WWII got on with all the sea ice in the Barents sea? If we have lost the ice now then I would expect there to have been at least some ice back in the 1940s. A bit odd then that convoys ran from June 1941 to May 1944 in almost every month.
“The model simulations show that, when you don’t get ice on the Barents and Kara seas, that promotes the formation of a high-pressure system there, and, because the airflow is clockwise around the high, it brings cold, polar air right into Europe, which leads to cold conditions here while it is unusually warm elsewhere, especially in the Arctic,” he explained.”
Is that really how high pressure systems are formed?
Perhaps there is another reason for the 100 year cold record this year. A friend sent me this. Thoughts anyone?
Hi Werner,
I saw this clip today: http://silverbearcafe.com/private/12.10/freeze.html It claims the gulf stream may have been stopped by the BP event in the gulf. Have you heard or read other info confirming this theory or fact? What do you think. Here is a related clip: http://www.youtube.com/user/MrGlasgowtruther#p/a/A03C7B00575CB38D/0/cMqRScmeu9I
E.M.Smith I have that ancestry on my mom’s side-Her family- Anderson, were from the
highlands of Sutherland, Scotland.
descendants of the Vikings that saw that the Scots women were good looking but going to the bother of dragging one to the longboat without her putting up a fight wasn’t worth
it so they stayed..
Here’s one of my favorite Kipling poems;
http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/thorkilds_song.html
had that one taped to the bulkhead on my old DC-7 Retardant Tanker.
After along fire season, it fit well….
In Germany, more snow than ever before christmas according to Meteomedia meteorologist Globig.
Some records:
Station old record new record
Flughafen Münster/Osnabrück 1 cm (1996) 20 cm
Hannover 16 cm (2001) 28 cm
Potsdam 18 cm (1981) 23 cm
Düsseldorf 3 cm (1986) 23 cm
Aachen 12 cm (1901) 35 cm
Erfurt 23 cm (1969) 25 cm
http://wetter.t-online.de/wetter-in-deutschland-frau-holle-regiert-das-weihnachtswetter/id_43841174/index
John F. Hultquist says:
“I wonder if GB is sinking into the sea from all that extra weight?”
Don’t forget places like Winchelsea and Rye that are now a couple miles inland from their original positions on the coast.
Awhile ago we had a contest on Kate McMillans site Small Dead Animals. We now don’t use AGW, ACC or ACD. It’s now known as ICS.
“Irritable Climate Syndrome”
Kinda says it all…..
Paul
Fools, fools, anyone would know that it is all due to declining ice cover in the Artic as the spin doctors explain.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1341388/Global-warming-Britain-longer-colder-winters-melting-sea-ice-plays-havoc-weather-patterns.html
The problem is that this spin reaks of desperation and the public is unlikely to buy into it.
Now what were their model, a few years back, predicting? Oh yes, CO2 causes warming particularly at the poles, thereby leading to melting of the ice caps (and catastrophoic sea level rises). This will causer warmer, shorter winters in the Northern Hemishpere with less snow. Hence the 2000 article.
Now they say a warmer artic with less ice leads to a colder Northern Hemishere.
Funny that when (during the recent instrument record) the Artic ice was at a minimum a few years back, the jet streams were not altered and UK and Europe did not experience such a harsh winter as was experienced in 2009/10 and as is presently beeing experienced in 2010/11. Could it just be that a reduction in the extent of summer ice does not lead to the climate shift the warmist now suggest.
All of this merely etablishes precisely how bad the models are at forecasting.
TheTempestSpark says:
December 24, 2010 at 9:55 am
“What is going on? am I losing my freaking mind?”
No; you’re only watching the collapse of an invalid theory.
Given their failed predictions at this rate they’ll have to resort to a multi-verse theory of warming; yes it isn’t warming here but our CO2 emissions are teleconnecting to the parallel dimension and won’t somebody please save the Zezgher’phrwts!
Because of these devastating extreme weather events, I have begun circulating a petition to end Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climactic Disruption. It is gaining signatures among the AGW crowd. But I think this is a banner we can all agree on. Trust me, events like this take all the fun out of living.
We’re all snowed in and full of flu.
Its going to be a quiet Christmas
It’s not unusual in the UK to have a short run of snowy winters. 1979 – 1981, 1984 – 1987 come to mind. Then we had two freakishly mild ones in Scotland with almost no snow at all until March. Being a weirdo, I put it down to the triple conjunction of Saturn, Uranus and Neptune, which might be total bollocks, but happened to coincide.
I wouldn’t ascribe 2 snow cold winters in the UK to anything myself.