Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
There is an interesting new study by Lauer et al. entitled “The Impact of Global Warming on Marine Boundary Layer Clouds over the Eastern Pacific—A Regional Model Study” [hereinafter Lauer10]. Anthony Watts has discussed some early issues with the paper here. The Lauer10 study has been controversial because it found that some marine stratocumulus clouds decrease with increasing warming. This is seen as an indication that (other things being equal) clouds are a net positive feedback, that they will amplify any warming and make it even warmer. This finding has engendered much discussion.
I want to do a different analysis. I want to provide a theoretical understanding of the Lauer10 findings. Figure 1 shows the larger picture, within which Lauer’s results make sense. This is the picture of part of the Earth as a solar-driven heat engine.
Figure 1. Very simplified picture of the main driving loop of the tropospheric circulation. A large counter-rotating cell (a “Hadley Cell”) of air exists on each side of the equator. Energy enters the system mostly around the equator. Thunderstorms (shown with rain) drive deep convection currents from the surface to the upper troposphere. Some of the energy is transferred horizontally by the Hadley Cells to the area at 30N/S. There, some the energy is radiated out to space. A large amount of the radiation occurs in the clear dry desert regions. Other parts of the atmospheric circulation not shown.
Lauer10 is discussing the low cloud decks found off the western edges of the continents at around 30°N/S, as illustrated in Fig. 1.
Considering the earth’s climate as a heat engine can lead us to interesting insights. First, we can see how the heat engine works. The thunderstorms in the wet tropics convert some of the incoming solar energy to work. The work consists in part of moving huge amounts of warm air vertically. In the process, most of the moisture is stripped out of the air, producing the rain shown in Fig. 1. After rising, some of this now-drier air travels polewards. It descends (subsides) in the region around 30° north and south of the Equator. This dry descending air forms the great desert belts of the planet. The air then returns equator-wards to repeat the cycle.
A closed system heat engine (like the climate) needs some form of radiator to cool the working fluid before it returns to be recycled through the engine. In the climate, the areas around 30°N/S serve as the main radiators for this loop of the atmospheric circulation. There, excess energy is radiated to space.
Now, here’s the theoretical question:
What would we expect to happen to this flow system if there is an increase in the temperature?
The Constructal Law says that in such a case, a flow system like the climate will rearrange itself to “speed up the wheel”. That is to say, it will change to increase the throughput of the system. The system reorganizes itself to increase the total of work plus turbulence.
How can the circulation shown in Fig. 1 become more efficient and increase its throughput? There are not a whole lot of control points in the system. The main control points are the clouds at both the hot and the cool ends of the heat engine.
The Constructal Law suggests that as the system warms, two things would happen. First, there would be an increase of cumulonimbus (thunderstorm) clouds at the equatorial end of the system. This would increase the speed and volume of the Hadley circulation. Next, there would be a decrease of clouds in the area around 30° latitude. This would increase the amount of radiation leaving the system. These changes would combine to increase the total throughput of the system.
In that light, let us re-consider the results of Lauer10. What they show is that as more heat passes through the system, as expected, the clouds at the radiator end of the system decrease. This increases the amount of energy that can pass through the system in a given time. In other words, they are an expected result of the system warming.
Lauer10 appears to discount this possibility when they say:
The radiative effect of low marine clouds is dominated by their contribution to the planetary albedo as their impact on outgoing longwave radiation is limited because of the small temperature difference between cloud tops and the underlying surface.
I found this doubtful for a number of reasons. First, the cloud top for marine stratiform clouds is typically at an altitude of ~600-700 metres, and the cloud bottom is at around 400-500 metres. The dry adiabatic lapse rate (cooling with increasing altitude in dry air) is about 1°C per hundred metres. This puts the cloud base at around five degrees C cooler than the surface. Then we have 200 metres at the wet adiabatic lapse rate, that’s about another degree. Total of six degrees cooler at the cloud tops.
The annual average surface temperature at 30°N is about 20°C, which puts the cloud tops at about 14°C. While this doesn’t seem like a lot, it gives a blackbody radiation difference of about 30 W/m2 … hardly a “limited” difference. Even if it is “only” half of that, 15 W/m2, that is the equivalent of four doublings of CO2.
Next, the strength of the solar contribution at 30° latitude is only about 60% of equatorial sunshine. This is due to the greater angle to the sun, plus the greater distance through the atmosphere, plus the inherent increase in albedo with decreasing solar angle.
Next, there is a fundamental difference between equatorial clouds (cumulus and cumulonimbus) and the stratocumulus decks of the area at 30° latitude. This difference is ignored by the averaging, with which climate science is unfortunately rife.
The problem is that the timing of clouds is often more important than the amount. Consider someplace in the tropics that has say eight hours of clouds per day. If those clouds are in the afternoon, the reflection of the sunlight will dominate the effect of the clouds on radiation. The clouds will cool the afternoon, as we all know from our common experience.
If that same eight hours of clouds occurs at night, however, the situation is reversed. Clouds are basically an impervious black body to outgoing longwave radiation. Because of this, they increase the downwelling LW when they are overhead. During the day this is usually more than offset by the reduction in solar radiation.
But at night there is no sun, so the effect of night-time clouds is almost always a warming. Again this is our common experience, as clear winter nights are almost always colder than winter nights with clouds.
However, all of this is obscured by the averaging. In both the day and night cases above, we have the exact same amount of clouds, eight hours per day. At night the cloud warms the earth, during the day the same cloud cools the earth, and averages can’t tell the difference.
The relevant difference between stratocumulus at 30° latitude and the equatorial clouds is that the equatorial clouds die out and vanish at night. This allows for free radiation from the surface. The stratocumulus deck, on the other hand, persists day and night. This means that it has much more effect on radiation than equatorial cloud.
Finally, I think that there is a fundamental misunderstanding in their claim that the maritime stratocumulus cloud “impact on outgoing longwave radiation is limited” because of the small temperature difference.
It is true that between the upwelling longwave from the surface and from the low clouds is about 10% (30W/m). The temperatures are not hugely dissimilar. But the internal energy flows are very different under the two conditions (clear and cloudy).
Consider a night-time hour with cloud. The cloud is radiating through clear dry air above to space at something like 370 W/m2. In addition, the cloud is radiating roughly the same amount back to the surface, something like 370 W/m2. Meanwhile, the ocean surface is radiating (losing) around 400 W/m2.
So the ocean loses 400 and gains 370 W/m2, so it is losing 30 W/m2 in this part of the transaction.
Now take away the cloud for an hour. The surface is still radiating something like 400 W/m2, this time out to space. So the authors of Lauer10 are correct, there’s not much change in outgoing LW, “only” 15 to 30 W/m2. But what they are neglecting is that the ocean is no longer receiving 370 W/m2 of LW from the cloud. Instead, above the ocean is mostly dry air, which provides little downwelling radiation to the surface. In this case the surface itself is losing about 400 W/m2.
So despite having identical energy flows to space, these two conditions have two very different net internal energy flows. When the sky is clear, the ocean is losing energy rapidly. When it is overcast with marine stratocumulus, the ocean loses energy much more slowly. The difference in ocean loss is 370 W/m2, which is a large difference. That is why I don’t agree that the clouds make little difference to the radiation balance. They make a big difference to net energy flows (into and out) of the ocean.
And why are oceanic net energy flows important to the outgoing radiation? It is the long-term balance of these flows across the ocean surface that determines the oceanic (and therefore the atmospheric) temperature. As a result, small sustained imbalances can cause gradual temperature shifts of the entire system.
I think I notice the problem because of my training as an accountant. A small difference in the amount of payments can mask a huge difference in the source of those funds. And a small amount of income or expense adds up over time.
My conclusions?
1. I think it quite possible that Lauer’s findings are correct, that increased warming in the area of the persistent marine stratiform layers at 30°N/S leads to decreased clouds in those areas.
2. I think that Lauer’s finding are an expected effect when we consider the Earth as a heat engine operating under the Constructal Law. With increasing heat, the Constructal Law says the system will adapt by increasing throughput. Reduced cloudiness at the cold end of the heat engine is an expected change in this regard, just as we expect (and find) increased cloudiness at the hot end of the heat engine with increasing heat.
3. Of course, for this study to truly be science I need to insert the obligatory boilerplate. So let me note that mine is a preliminary study, that “further investigation is warranted”, that I could use a big stack of funds to do just that, that I will require a personal assistant to undertake the onerous task of archiving a few datasets per year, and that Exxon has been most dilatory in their payment schedule …
FURTHER INFORMATION
Constructal Law and Climate (Adrian Bejan, PDF)
The constructal law of design and evolution in nature (Adrian Bejan, PDF)
A previous post of mine on Constructal Law and Flow Systems
The constructal law and the thermodynamics of flow systems with configuration (Adrian Bejan, PDF)
Addendum before posting. After writing the above, I noted today a new paper published in Science (behind a paywall) entitled Dynamical Response of the Tropical Pacific Ocean to Solar Forcing During the Early Holocene, Thomas M. Marchitto et al. It is discussing one of the geographical areas that Lauer10 analyzed, the eastern Pacific off of Mexico. The abstract says:
We present a high-resolution magnesium/calcium proxy record of Holocene sea surface temperature (SST) from off the west coast of Baja California Sur, Mexico, a region where interannual SST variability is dominated today by the influence of the El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO). Temperatures were lowest during the early to middle Holocene, consistent with documented eastern equatorial Pacific cooling and numerical model simulations of orbital forcing into a La Niña–like state at that time. The early Holocene SSTs were also characterized by millennial-scale fluctuations that correlate with cosmogenic nuclide proxies of solar variability, with inferred solar minima corresponding to El Niño–like (warm) conditions, in apparent agreement with the theoretical “ocean dynamical thermostat” response of ENSO to exogenous radiative forcing.
In short, their study reports that when the ocean gets warmer at the equator, it gets cooler at 30°N, and vice versa. They also find that this effect is visible on annual through millennial timescales. Unsurprisingly, this is not found in the GCMs.
Intrigued by the idea of a “ocean dynamical thermostat”, I read on:
Values in the middle of this range are sufficient to force the intermediate- complexity Zebiak-Cane model of El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) dynamics into a more El Niño–like state during the Little Ice Age (A.D. ~1400 to 1850) (3), a response dubbed the “ocean dynamical thermostat” because negative (or positive) radiative forcing results in dynamical ocean warming (or cooling, respectively) of the eastern tropical Pacific (ETP) (4). This model prediction is supported by paleoclimatic proxy reconstructions over the past millennium (3, 5, 6). In contrast, fully coupled general circulation models (GCMs) lack a robust thermostat response because of an opposing tendency for the atmospheric circulation itself to strengthen under reduced radiative forcing (7).
Now, consider this finding in light of Figure 1. Yes, it is a simple “thermostat” in the sense that as the equator heats up, the area around 30°N/S cools.
But in the light of the climate heat engine it is much more than that. The Constructal Law says in response to increased forcing the climate system will respond by increasing throughput. One way to increase the throughput of a closed cycle heat engine is to cool the radiator.
And that is exactly what their “ocean dynamical thermostat” is doing. By cooling the radiator of the climate heat engine, the engine runs faster, and moves more heat from the tropics. Conversely, when the earth is cooler than usual, the engine runs slower, and less heat is transported from the tropics. This warms the tropics.
I started this by saying that I would provide a theoretical framework within which the Lauer10 findings would make sense. I believe I have done so. My theoretical results were strengthened by my subsequent finding that Marchitto et al. fits the same framework. However, this is only my understanding. Additions, subtractions, questions, falsifications, confusions, expansions, and just about anything but conflagrations gratefully accepted.
Finally, testable predictions lie at the heart of science, and they are scarce in climate science. If I am correct, the kind of study done by Lauer et al. of the persistent stratocumulus decks in e.g. the Eastern Pacific should reveal that in the observations, changes in night-time cloud cover are greater than changes in day-time cloud cover. My check from the Koch brothers must have gotten lost in the mail, so I don’t have the resources for such a study, but that is a testable prediction. It would certainly be a good and very easy direction for Lauer et al. to investigate, they have the records in hand. Here’s their chance to prove me wrong …
My regards to all,
w.
References and Notes for the above quotations from Marchitto et al.
3. M. E. Mann, M. A. Cane, S. E. Zebiak, A. Clement, J. Clim. 18, 447 (2005).
4. A. C. Clement, R. Seager, M. A. Cane, S. E. Zebiak, J. Clim. 9, 2190 (1996).
5. K. M. Cobb, C. D. Charles, H. Cheng, R. L. Edwards, Nature 424, 271 (2003).
6. M. E. Mann et al., Science 326, 1256 (2009).
7. G. A. Vecchi, A. Clement, B. J. Soden, Eos 89, 81 (2008).
PS – Both papers, one discussing the atmosphere and the other the ocean, explicitly note that this thermostatic effect is not correctly simulated by the climate models (GCMs). The Marchitto paper is very clear about exactly why. It is because of one of the most glaring and under-reported shortcomings of the models. Here’s Marchitto again, in case you didn’t catch it the first time through (emphasis mine):
In contrast, fully coupled general circulation models (GCMs) lack a robust thermostat response because of an opposing tendency for the atmospheric circulation itself to strengthen under reduced radiative forcing (7).
Say what? Model circulation strengthens under reduced forcing?
In a natural heat engine, when you add more heat, the heat engine speeds up. We can see this daily in the tropics. As the radiative forcing increases, more and more thunderstorms form, and the atmospheric circulation speeds up. It’s basic meteorology.
In the models, amazingly, as the radiative forcing increases, the atmospheric circulation actually slows down. I might have missed it, but I’ve never seen a modeller address this issue, and I’ve been looking for an explanation since the EOS paper came out. Although to be fair the modellers might have overlooked the problem, it’s far from the only elephant in the model room. But dang, it’s a big one, even among elephants.
So yeah, I can see why the models are missing the proper thermostatic feedback. If your model is so bad that modelled atmospheric circulation slows down when the forcing increases, anything’s possible.
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Jim D says:
December 11, 2010 at 9:57 am
If its effect is decreasing with warming, one of the last major hopes of the skeptics is removed, which is why this paper is so interesting, and bound to become a target for further investigation.
Of coarse it will become a target. You will see alarmists cranking out paper after paper showing how an increase in temp reduces the cooling effect of clouds and so they will claim their models are correct in having clouds as a positive feedback. They will only study the areas like at 30 deg where clouds act as a radiator and gleefully say that all clouds work in a similar fasion. They are not looking for the whole picture, they are looking to prove why their models are correct.
thanks Willis. This is great stuff, as usual,
I think you are the greatest climate realist, but as in any hockey game,
it will take some time to tell…
Something else:
if you study the pattern of modern warming, for example, here, we have some average temperature data since 1946,
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8705/navacerrada.gif
Spain is pretty much average as avarage goes for a place to stay on earth! The station has been very accurate in its recordings and apparently only one day’s recordings are missing. Note that the average minimum temps. since 1980 have stayed constant. If green house gasses were to blame for the warming (the trapping of heat), you would think that it should have been minimum temps that would show the increase (of modern warming). But that line is completely straight…..So it cannot be greenhouse gasses that caused modern warming.
I just wonder if any of you might have some other similar data that confirms what they have found here in Spain (I will look for same data myself in South Africa as well when I get some time)
Willis, I mentioned it as the elephant in the room. I still see no quantification of its relative effect in your response, and was surprised it had not been quantified in the post. How can a post on low clouds not deal with the hundreds of W/m2 that form part of the budget that is actually more important than what you were talking about. Instead of careful avoidance, I might have said “ignored” or “forgotten about” or “disregarded” or simply “chose not to talk about”, which may be construed with various degrees of nastiness, but those were the words that came to mind based on some prejudice/bias I perceived from the post. I have this idealized view, perhaps, of science informational posts being neutral and well balanced which helps people to form opinions more correctly. If big chunks of highly relevant information are missing it can look biased to those who know about the missing pieces of the puzzle.
Willis – my impression is that Lauer and you both make the same mistake as the IPCC. The IPCC only ever considers clouds to react to climate (“feedback”). It never contemplates the idea that clouds are a driver of climate (other than to dismiss Svensmark with a handwave). Like the IPCC, when Lauer says “some marine stratocumulus clouds decrease with increasing warming“, he does not consider the possibility that the warming is caused by decreased clouds.
Others have made this point already, but I thought it worth expressing it more briefly.
Here’s a nice global map of outgoing LWR. Supports your thesis quite nicely.
http://www.iapmw.unibe.ch/research/projects/FriOWL/docs/chapter6_4_olr_final.pdf
Mike Jonas says:
December 11, 2010 at 12:20 pm
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Attempts to explain climate change with a product of a climate change will fall by the wayside. Even the CO2 seesaw (Vostok ice cores) appears to be caused by the climate change.
Solution is to be found outside the loop ‘cause-consequence-cause’.
An excellent post, thanks. I seems so obvious to me and it ties in with the world around me and how it works. How anyone can think warming will reduce global cloud cover creating more warming is detached from reality, if the climate really were that sensitive it would have already happened along time ago and we wouldnt be here talking about it!
I believe the climate models in order to reduce cloud cover with warming, have to reduce evaporation in the future (i.e. make earth drier), thats hard as its warmer, so wind shear is reduced significantly to justify such a response (we call it a “fudge” in modelling terms). I suspect the fudge used to force reduced could cover with warming would also work backwards, where cooling results in increased wind shear, and the climate system speeds up – despite there being less energy.
Huh, I believe I saw something back over there. So it is then that way.
In the referenced paper, http://www.iapmw.unibe.ch/research/projects/FriOWL/docs/chapter6_4_olr_final.pdf , there is a table that shows the global correlation between medium height clouds and outgoing LWR as -0.56. I believe those are the sort of clouds to which you refer. It would be interesting to see the correlation over deserts.
Table 6.4.1 shows the correlation between medium height clouds and outgoing LWR to be -0.56. I believe those are the clouds you were discussion WRT deserts. It would be interesting to see the correlation for just desert latitudes.
moderator: Sorry, I didn’t see the first post and posted a second time.
Hi Willis,
For sure increasing heat input in the tropics (or equivalently, decreasing heat loss in the tropics) should cause the ‘engine’ to run faster, but I think it would run faster because of a larger difference in temperature between warm source and cold sink. For the greater heat flow to be lost to space near 30 degrees north and south, there would seem to be a need for a somewhat warmer cold sink, which would lead to greater radiative heat loss to space. So, if the Hadley circulation is increased by tropical warming (more thunderstorms, etc.), then would the temperature not have to increase a bit near 30 degrees north and south to shed the greater heat flux?
Willis: Great article. I truly believe your “heat engine” concept is a key determinant of global climate. Now as to the waxing and waning of the mid-latitude stratocumulus decks, my thinking is similar to:
Stephen Wilde (who) says:
December 11, 2010 at 7:56 am
“…The extra energy input then stimulates convective uplift along the ITCZ which then increases the intensity, width and latitudinal position of the subtropical high pressure cells as the uplifted air descends again.
With more downward airflow into the subtropical highs the low stratocumulus would tend to evaporate and/or move poleward and so be pushed further beyond 30 degrees latitude thus taking some of it out of the region being considered and possibly decreasing total stratocumulus globally….”
That is, the increased flow of dry air in the descending portion of the Hadley Cell begins to reduce the moisture content in the cloud belts, so that the clouds dissipate. Similarly, the desert land areas should show some effects, as in becoming more desiccated or expanding, most likely in the direction of the equator, since the flux of dry air is moving in that direction. (That’s possibly part of the issue in the Sahel, isn’t it?).
This seems consistent with your discussion of the length of rivers and the Constructal Law, which I interpret happening because a shortening in river length in some area eventually results in water in the upper reaches of the stream moving faster. The water is continuous. Here, the air moved by the Hadley Cell is the continuum.
Hope I’m not a crackpot!
I don’t understand the impact of cooling the ocean (clear sky) compared with cooling the cloud tops (cloudy sky). In both cases the planet is cooled subject to subsequent energy transfer rebalancings between surface and atmosphere.
It could be argued that cooling the ocean then reduces the radiative output from it.
Colder water decreases cloud formation because of lower levels of evaporation. Warmer waters increase cloud formation because of increased evaporation. Anyone with a cup of tea in their hands on this cold snowy day can attest to that. Hold your hand over the tea when it is still warm and your hand gets wet. Wait till your cup of tea is cold and then try that. It has been one of the tenants of AGW that increased long wave radiation heating of the ocean surface will increase evaporation thus cloud formation. Now they are saying that won’t happen?
Here we go again. If one paper says one thing and says it is proof of CO2 driven global warming, another paper comes out that refutes it, but then says the refutation is proof of CO2 driven global warming. Is this being done to cover their collective asses because past predictions of this or that effect are not coming to fruition?
The cloud discussions obscure the mechanics of a heat engine.
At the root is a very simple process.
Convection carries heat from the surface to a higher altitude, above the densest greenhouse gases, where it is efficiently radiated into space.
The process has kept earth inhabitable for millions of years.
Pamela Gray says:
You are making an argument as to why a warmer world has more water vapor in the atmosphere. However, your picture is too simplistic to figure out what is going to happen with clouds (CONDENSED water vapor) because, while warmer air means more evaporation, it also means a larger amount of water vapor can be present before reaching saturation. Most of the modeling and empirical evidence suggest that the increase in water vapor will be such that the relative humidity remains roughly constant, at least on a globally-averaged scale…making it not easily apparent how cloudiness will change.
And, where exactly is that tenet to be found?
No…It has been generally-agreed-upon that an increase in low-level-marine clouds with temperature would produce a negative feedback and that a decrease would produce a positive feedback. In fact, I think that your description of the way things work applies more to this post and the author than to the scientists holding the consensus view on AGW. In particular, I think that Willis has long-argued how clouds constitute a negative feedback because they tend to increase with evaporation and their shortwave cooling effects cause cooling. In this piece, he has turned things on their head and is saying, in essence, “Now that they have found cloudiness actually decreases with warming, I think this is a negative feedback too because the clouds will decrease the amount of outgoing longwave radiation (and forget about that shortwave incoming radiation).”
To be fair, I think Willis would probably argue that the difference is whether the clouds are at around 30deg latitude or are in the tropics. (Is that right, Willis?) But, cooler me skeptical.
This comment may be a bit off the subject but I am looking for answers, so…..
If it is correct that the generally accepted solar constant is one of 1368 W/m2 as a satellite measured yearly average then how come the “Incoming Solar Radiation” is 341.3 W/m² as in a “Global Energy Plan W/m²” posted earlier? (By the way all other plans of that ilk that I have ever seen show very similar values.)
If the “Solar Constant” of 1368 M/m², as measured by satellite, is a yearly average arriving at the top of the atmosphere then one only has to divide 1368 with 2 (to roughly account for day and night) to arrive at 684 W/m² as being the “Incoming Solar Radiation”.
The same way as radiation “does not stick it’s finger out to determine where it is cooler before it decides in which direction to radiate” neither does the Sun’s radiation look to see whether it is going to hit a globe or a flat disc. It hits the whole disc or the whole globe
Reflection and absorption rates will of course be different for the two different objects.
Let’s take a look at the moon’s temperatures as collected by NASA’s Diviner satellite:
“Data accumulated by Diviner during August and the first half of September indicate that equatorial and mid-latitude daytime temperatures are 224 degrees Fahrenheit, and then decrease sharply poleward of 70 degrees north latitude. Equatorial and mid-latitude nighttime temperatures are -298 degrees Fahrenheit, and then decrease poleward of 80 degrees north latitude. At low and mid-latitudes, there are isolated warmer regions with nighttime temperatures of -208 degrees Fahrenheit.”
If we look at the full moon here from Earth the curvature pole wards, on the Earth facing side, cannot be seen because there is no difference in solar irradiation. The sharp temperature decrease pole ward can only mean that an increase in curvature = an increase in irradiative deflection or reflection
How much heat/cold is exchanged due to conduction and radiation through the moon’s mass polewards from (70 – 80 ° N & S) is a different question.
Yikes! English is not a very phonetic language, Dennis. That’s “rancor” and “due to”, pliz. Your spell checker can’t pick up substituted homonyms!
As for the 3 major failings, the comment elsewhere about resisting new information that would require a rejigging of all the parameters to keep the GCMs within bounds relates to this; they are trying hard to keep the failings, as so much effort has been expended to protect them already. And more to come!
The heat pump that is planet Earth has two major differences to a heat actuated refrigerator. The atmosphere is our plumbing, unbounded thus somewhat chaotic.
The refrigerant H2O is in vast quantity acting as a heat bank and moderator, this gives lag times of some years before heat input changes take large effect on the temperature.
The new satellites monitoring our heat source will correlate to conditions on Earth over time , if the temperature record can be uncorrupted.
Weather satellite photos of Earth often show swirled spokes of cloud formations emanating from the tropics and heading north and south, in a mirror image pattern.
This alone is proof of Willis’s heat pump Earth.
Someone has to explain what the causes the difference in warm dry air masses and warm humid air masses. During summer here in Florida, we have days that humidity is high and clouds start to form around noon with thunderstorms to follow around 4 PM. Other days the temperature is 94F but the air is drier and no clouds form at all. These warm air masses with different humidity levels move in and out of the area due to wind direction. But what causes the difference in the first place?
I’m constantly fascinated by comments about marine layer from people who, by their statement content, have never tried to get a tan, or surf, or whatever on a Southern California beach in June.
The water in June is still cold enough to keep the air temperature low enough to maintain the low stratus clouds – neglecting the possibility of a Santa Ana condition. Only after insolation has raised the water temperature enough that the evaporation is occurring into sufficiently warm air does the “June Gloom” disappear. (To clarify this, the air and water temperatures must rise – air temps rise quicker – thus June Gloom).
Northern California is plagued with the marine layer in the summer. Fog rolling in over the hills of S.F. is a classic image in the summer in The Bay Area.
I agree with HaroldW, December 11, 2010 at 10:52 am that seasonal insolation values would seem to alter the heat engines ability to dissipate heat at the summer/winter solstice.
There is a big swing of double the Earth’s obliquity of 23.45 Deg at these times and would bring the 30Deg Hadley cell extreme closer to the poles, making the cell more efficient at heat dissipation, and, of course greatly adding to polar melt. Add them up and this gives the cell an edge at 53.45 N/S at the Solstices. The ‘sinking’ air at these extremes is correct as sinking air is a high pressure system, dry clear with little moisture, low pressure systems are the opposite.
Just eyeball a globe as I did, and see the dramatic change as the sun swings directly above the Tropic of Cancer to the Tropic of Capricorn.
O H Dahlsveen says on December 11, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Area of the disk that receives incoming solar radiation = pi * r^2, where r is the radius of the earth.
Total surface area of the earth = 4*pi*r^2 …
So, that averages out at 1/4 of the incoming TSI. Since the earth rotates reasonable quickly it seems like a reasonable approximation.
Re Richard Sharpe says:
December 11, 2010 at 9:45 am
Willis, you are very clever young man, but it is mechanisms all the way down!
That is, why are there less stratocumulus clouds at the places mentioned when the atmosphere heats up.
Given that the atmosphere contains approximately 1000 times less energy than the oceans it seems inconceivable (and I do know what that word means) that the atmosphere is driving the oceans. However, clouds can only form when there is moisture in the atmosphere, which comes from the evaporation of water from the oceans and other bodies, or from evapotranspiration from plants.
Show me the mechanism!”
Richard, what heats the oceans, LWIR or SWR? The primary mechanism that controls heating or cooling the oceans is SWR, the primary mechanism that contols how much SWR enters the ocean is cloud cover and location, now what are the primary mechanisms that controls cloud cover and location?