[posted by autoscheduler] I’ll be offline and out of town for medical issues most of today and tomorrow, but may check in via my cellphone. If you have story ideas, news, etc be sure to flag the comment for a moderator’s attention. Moderators, feel free to post stories of interest. – Thanks everybody, Anthony
Zeke the Sneak says:
December 4, 2010 at 9:52 am
“PS, I have a paper I want to purchase and read but it is in German. Can you give me a hand? I will link it up over on Tallbloke’s Suggestion thread.”
I will watch out. See you there.
BBC refurbishes “Green Room” (which was their CleanTech/AGW brainwashing dungeon, giving environmentalists, green NGO’s and subsidy rent seekers a soapbox) into something that “looks around the web for what’s new. They go so far as to mention Judith Curry’s blog and the word ClimateGate.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/seealso/2010/12/green_room.html
Looks like a little bit of Perestroika. You know what happened to the Warsaw Pact after Perestroika started…
Prof. Brian Cox, previously, a young hero of mine, presented the Huw Weldon lecture on BBC2 Thurs. night.
He quotes Feynman and then defends AGW with consensus science. He attacks climate sceptics and declares the peer review process is the gold standard – for climatology!
He clearly has done no personal investigation of sceptical arguments nor can he have read any of the Climategate e-mails.
Very, very disappointing and I expected better from Prof. Cox.
Is he afraid of having his television career curtailed like David Bellamy so decided not to ruffle the waters? Still time to do a bit of reading, Bri. The longer you delay the more embarrassing it will be.
I heard that Gene Simmons, one time member of KISS, who is a self-described fiscally conservative/socially liberal guy, voted for Obama and now wants his vote back. That man is still rockin after all these years.
So I am suggesting a new greeting sign between folks who want their vote back. Hang out your tongue!!!!!
Dear Anthony,
you have been mentioned by S. Rahmsdorf in a non nice way . .
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/12/coldest-winter-in-1000-years-cometh-–-not/
“Oktober, 4. The “climate sceptics” website wattsupwiththat, noted for their false reports, ”
(these “false reports” turn out to have nothing to do whatsoever with WUWT, if at all with surfacestations.org, but you know the story better than me, you wrote it)
I guess they have a hard time, that they have no influence on the climate blog No. 1 🙂
Nethertheless, I? think you should try to comment on that misrepresentation over there!
Cheers and all the best,
LoN
Dr T G Watkins says:
December 4, 2010 at 1:25 pm
well said! I have enjoyed some of his stuff on Tv – but he does tend to tow the party line. Whether thats due to his ‘keeping up appearances’ to keep in TV or whatever, I wouldn’t know – but it’s funny that he, along with Michio Kaku, Hawkins et al – have all kind of felt the need to comment on AGW? – but clearly, in a less than fully informed manner. Still, maybe their minds are the same as computers – GIGO!
From Maggie’s Farm:
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To the – moderator – this need to see the light of day.
WHY AM I SURPRISED?
MORE SHOCKING WIKILEAKS ON CLIMATE DISCUSSIONS
HERE IS A BOMB SHELL AND SHOULD CONCERN SKEPTICS AND WARMERS. IT REVEALS THE UNDERHANDED LENGTHS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WILL GO TO, TO GET IT’S WAY WITH THE UN CLIMATE CHANGE AGENDA AND OUR TAX DOLLARS.
WikiLeaks cables reveal how US manipulated climate accord
Abbreviated:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-us-manipulated-climate-accord
Damian Carrington
guardian.co.uk, Friday 3 December 2010
Embassy dispatches show America used spying, threats and promises of aid to get support for Copenhagen accord
Hidden behind the save-the-world rhetoric of the global climate change negotiations lies the mucky realpolitik: money and threats buy political support; spying and cyber warfare are used to seek out leverage.
The US diplomatic cables reveal diplomatic wheeling and dealing showing how the US seeks dirt on nations opposed to its approach to tackling global warming; how financial and other aid is used by countries to gain political backing; how distrust, broken promises and creative accounting dog negotiations; and how the US mounted a secret global diplomatic offensive to overwhelm.
Seeking negotiating chips, the US state department sent a secret cable on 31 July 2009 seeking human intelligence from UN diplomats across a range of issues, including CLIMATE CHANGE.
A diplomatic offensive was launched. Diplomatic cables flew thick and fast between the end of Copenhagen in December 2009 and late February 2010, when the leaked cables end.
Getting as many countries as possible to associate themselves with the accord strongly served US interests, by boosting the likelihood it would be officially adopted.
Omaha’s US administration sent confidential cables that records blunt threats and overtures to back the accord by offering aid money as political leverage. Stating sign the accord or discussions end now!
Questions were raised whether the US aid would be all cash? Countries were seen as vulnerable to financial pressure. . Any linking of the billions of dollars of aid to political support is extremely controversial – nations most threatened by climate change see the aid as a right, not a reward!
Some countries needed little persuading. The accord promised $30bn (£19bn) in aid for the poorest nations hit by global warming they had not caused.
The cables obtained by WikiLeaks finish at the end of February 2010. US diplomatic wheeling and dealing may, it seems, be bearing fruit.
“The accord promised $30bn (£19bn) in aid for the poorest nations hit by global warming they had not caused.”
Without the evil capitalist caused increase in CO2 some of their people would have starved.
What proof is their that any nation was harmed by the increase in CO2?
The benefits are KNOWN.
The projected disaster is ever in the future, and yet to appear.
Sweden enters the Dark Ages:
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Anthony as a follower of this site wish you and all your family well.
As this is an open thread I have a couple of questions
1- Age of Universe v Age of Solar System
The universe is commonly estimate at 16 Billion years. The Solar system is 5 billion years old. Here on Earth we have natural elements up 92 Uraniuam. Elements over 26 Iron are only supposed to form after a supernovae . I think it is cutting it a it fine for a star to supernova, produce the elemetns and then coalesce under gravitational force into a solar system. It would make more sense if the age if the Universe was much greater, say 30 billion years.
2 – Time travel
If travel in time is possible, then one has the problem of travelling in space as well. If you travel backwards in time you will be in the same place. The earth rotates goes around the the sun at 68,000 m.p.h. and the sun is currently heading towards Vega at 1.5 million m.p.h.. Get your time space co-odrinates wrong and you will end up either 100 ft entombed in solid rock or 100 ft above plummeting towards the earths surface.
Which will solve the conundrum of what happens if you kill your own parents before you are born.
Finally on climate/weather generally I will have more respect for any scientist who has read and understood the implications of micrometerology and this on meterological measurements after reading Rudolf Geiger’s text ” The Climate Near the Ground”.
Climate change, combined with a critique of the world capitalist system, is a useful excuse for an incompetent government in Venezuela:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/05/venezuela-hugo-chavez-natural-disasters-capitalism
What if the Caroniferous Period had never Happened?
The Carbonfierous period was a unique time on Earth. The climate was stable for long periods of time. The plants grew in an environment where insects and animals were unable to consume their high contents of lignin. The result, large coalfields across the planet. Without large amounts of coal I would think that industrial development would have peaked at Tudor ( 1500 -1600) development. No coal means minimal amounts of steel, hence no industrialised world.
Earth has been particularly blessed ( one way or the other)with an assortment of elements to promote technology: iron, aluminium lead, mercury, copper, uranium. If we lived on a planet with few metallic resources we would still be in caves. As an alternative ,consider another planet where the concentrations of the metallic elements was much greater. Is it not more probable that on these planets that technology would develop to a much higher level? As an open thread I was just trying to stimulate some comment aside from climate change ( which is natural and on the evidence not man-made).