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Here is a very interesting article on sea level rise: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,732303,00.html
One paragraph has the following:
“If the Greenland ice sheet, which is 3 kilometers (1.88 miles) thick in some places, were to melt completely, sea levels would rise by 7 meters on average. It would take many centuries before the 3 million cubic kilometers of glaciers ended up in the ocean. But people living near Germany’s North Sea coast would hardly even notice, because the sea level there would remain virtually unchanged. The water would even subside off the coast of Norway. “And, purely theoretically, the sea level would actually fall by several meters off the coast of Greenland,” Stammer explains. “
The U.N. is saying “2010 among 3 hottest years”. (read this here: http://www.wral.com/weather/story/8714527/)
But then I keep reading here that we’ve been cooling for the past 8 years.
Can anyone point me to the data that shows the leveling off & cooling trends?
May the news on the medical front continue to improve.
Just this
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1335287/Two-pensioners-freeze-death-collapsing-gardens-Cumbria.html
And the co2 jockeys still claim it’s global warming causing it.
A third of Scots are now living in fuel poverty:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-11840614
A third!!
Some news about Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli’s investigation of the University of Virginia and M.Mann:
http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/12/03/lawrence-solomon-hockey-stick-coverup-a-sequel/
I and my buddies have been deer hunting for 16 years. This November we noted an exceptional amount of fat reserves in the abdominal cavities of all 4 deer we harvested. Do the deer know something about the coming winter that we don’t?
Before the BBC take this program down – you can see here how they are seeking to frame their refusal to properly report sceptical climate stories:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00wfnqg/Royal_Television_Society_Lecture_Huw_Wheldon_Lecture_2010_Science_a_challenge_to_TV_Orthodoxy/
In the UK the presenter Brian Cox is a popular TV science figure – although the show isn’t overtly about Climate you can quickly see where they are ultimately heading.
Ok, now we have prayers to some moth-eaten Mayan god to make Cancun a success. I’d like to know who the lucky sacrifice is. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/post-carbon/2010/11/cancun_talks_start_with_a_call.html
http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-11-satellites-reveal-differences-sea.html
According to the new results, the annual world average sea level rise is about 1 millimeter, or about 0.04 of an inch. In some areas, such as the Pacific Ocean near the equator and the waters offshore from India and north of the Amazon River, the rise is larger. In some areas, such as the east coast of the United States, the sea level has actually dropped a bit over the past decade.
Now listen to the fool Willis, who is by the way sitting on inconvenient ARGO data:
“These effects are still small in today’s rising ocean, but as we look out over the next century, the patterns of sea level change due to melting ice will be magnified many times over as the ice sheets thin and melt,” Willis said.
So the imminent catastrophe is being now extrapolated beyond 2100, because obviously none is going to happen in this century.
C James says:
December 3, 2010 at 8:12 am
“Here is a very interesting article on sea level rise: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,732303,00.html
”
It’s really interesting, but it also has the money quote:
“But the scientist fears that this delicate balance could tip during a warmer future on greenhouse Earth. In addition, the computer models predict that the Gulf Stream will weaken by about 25 percent. Böning warns that this could cause the sea level to rise by about 20 centimeters in the North Sea.”
I would really, really, really love to see all of these “it’s worse than we thought can i have another million pretty please” scientists to clean out a quarry once in a while. With their hands. Chained to the journalists.
Best wishes to you and your wife.
Mods, this is a beaut! I got this from Steve’s realscience site.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23903565-prince-charles-opens-pound-45m-climate-change-gallery-funded-by-shell.do
“The objects on display include tree rings, stalagmite samples and three ice cores which scientists have analysed to spot changes in the earth’s climate over time.
The ice cores, drilled from the Antarctic icecap, have been installed in a glass-fronted freezer cabinet. One of them contains bubbles of air from the year 1410.”
There’s so much to talk about in this story, I wouldn’t know where to start. Shell? The prince? Air bubbles born in 1410? Then there’s always the mainstay of tree rings!
Tony
The Economist is carrying data in this weeks’ magazine which purports to show how 2010 is one of the warmest ever, and the last decade the warmest on record.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/12/climate_change
I think there was some news recently that the UK Met Office had altered some data in the historical temperature record, which if I remember correctly, led to the downward revision of temperatures in the 90s, thus causing the lower temperatures in the 00s to keep the warming trend up. A nice bit of historical revisionism. But if someone could confirm this for me, or even if WUWT ran an article discussing this it would clear things up as to what is going on. Thanks.
If the Great Global Warming is dying on a Caribbean beach, a new interesting controversy would be that happening between the “Flintstones’ Universe” settled science defenders and those of the “Electric Universe/Plasma Universe” theorists.
Katabasis says:
December 3, 2010 at 8:30 am
A third of Scots are now living in fuel poverty:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-11840614
A third!!
It’s because they are not redistributing adequately. It’s for the greater good…we must all have the same quality of life, regardless of income. sarc/off
Re James Sexton says: December 3, 2010 at 9:13 am
Already being nicknamed the Rogue’s Gallery.
I am curious what the status of the SurfaceStations.Org effort is. The last update is dated July 16th, 2009. Is there any on-line list that partitions the surveyed sites into CRN-1 through CRN-5? I’m just curious.
I have questions, but no answers. How much CO2 is tied up in limestone? Is this CO2 C13 or C12? How do the amounts of carbon in limstone and coal/oil/gas compare?
Tony says:
December 3, 2010 at 8:18 am ‘The U.N. is saying “2010 among 3 hottest years”. . . But then I keep reading here that we’ve been cooling for the past 8 years.’
There are a four major keepers of temperature trends: UAH, RSS, HadCru and GISS. (Some say there are five, but NOAA is more of a subset of GISS.) The one that I use the most is UAH, and you can find its data at http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt
Please keep in mind that a Global Average Temperature is a questionable concept. Seldom do climate issues depend upon a global average, but rather upon regional trends. Moreover, the assumptions and adjustments to develop long-term trends can be very questionable. There are fewer questionable adjustments in satellite data (UAH and RSS), but they have issues of their own, and they go back only to 1979.
It is not contradictory for 2010 to one of the three hottest years and for the last decade to be cooling. There is little disagreement that for the last 150 years or so, we have been emerging from the Little Ice Age. Therefore temperatures in this current decade would be expected to be among the highest on record because records essentially started as temperature starting warming as the Little Ice Age faded. Temperatures spiked in 1998 with a very strong El Nino, and the global average drifted downward slightly since then. The image of downward drift is heavily influenced by a strong La Nina in at the end fo 2007. Now in 2010, we had not only a strong El Nino, but also prolonged stationary fronts which have caused global temperatures to rebound from the dip experienced in the 2007 La Nina. Most commentators on this blob consider the 2010 circumstances to be temporary, expecting the downward drift to return in 2011, and therefore they continue to talk about global cooling. Current developments as 2010 draws to a close seem to confirm their expectations.
I got a deer in Upper Michigan and my brother noted the same thing about high abdominal fat in the deer. I attributed it to the exceptional acorn crop … acorns are very high calorie preferred food for deer. The acorns are still scattered all over the ground, usually they’ve been picked clean by critters by now.
Not exactly a Friday Funny , but an amusing read :
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/12/03/alternative-energy-and-the-aca
Hope this link works ….
I believe that the plan is to always adjust prior decades down, so that we are always in the hottest decade ever.
edward tregembo says:
December 3, 2010 at 10:16 am
That’s really pitiful. And I wonder how are they doing all the more than 14 million people who lost their houses in the US, where are they going to live/survive next winter?
No news about this.