Pielke Jr. on Trenberth's Book Review

Dr. Roger Pielke Junior sent this along with the options to ignore it, or to publish in whole or in part. Apparently, Dr. Kevin Trenberth can’t account for the facts in the book, The Climate Fix, and it’s a travesty that he can’t. – Anthony

Guest post by Dr. Roger Pielke Jr.

Science magazine made the odd decision to choose Kevin Trenberth, a

long-time and vocal critic of mine, who has repeatedly on the losing

sides of public debates over hurricanes and disasters, to review my

book. For background, see:

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/2009/10/shameful-article-review-and-update.html

Not surprisingly, Trenberth’s unhinged review is full of errors and

mischaracterizations.  Here are a few:

1. TRENBERTH: “An example that he might have mentioned, but does not,

is President George W. Bush’s 2001 rejection of the Kyoto Protocol on

the grounds that it would hurt the economy. ”

REALITY: Actually, Pielke discusses Bush’s rejection of Kyoto on pp. 39 and 44

2. TRENBERTH: “Pielke treats economic and environmental gains as

mutually exclusive”

REALITY: Not so.  From p. 50, “[A]ction to achieve environmental goals

will have to be fully compatible with the desire of people around the

world to meet economic goals.  There will be no other way.”

3. TRENBERTH: “Pielke does not address the international lobbying for

economic advantage inherent in the policy negotiations. ”

REALITY: Wrong again.  The international economics of the climate

debate are discussed on pp. 59, 65, 109, 219, 231, and 233 and are a

theme throughout

4. TRENBERTH: “He objects to Working Group III’s favoring of

mitigation (which is, after all, its mission) while ignoring Working

Group II (whose mission is adaptation).”

REALITY: Again, not so. Chapter 5 is about the balance between

mitigation and adaptation in international policy and discusses both

IPCC WG II and WG III (see pp. 153-155).  What Pielke objects to is

defining adaptation as the consequences of failed mitigation.

5. TRENBERTH: “His claims that “the science of climate change becomes

irrevocably politicized” because “[s]cience that suggested large

climatic impacts on Russia was used to support arguments for Russia’s

participation in the [Kyoto] protocol”—as if there would be no such

impacts and Russia would be a “winner”—look downright silly given the

record-breaking drought, heat waves, and wildfires in Russia this past

summer.”

REALITY: Egregious misrepresentation.  Trenberth selectively uses half

of a quote to imply that Pielke was making a claim that he did not.

The part left out by Trenberth (p. 156) was the counterpoint —

specifically that science that suggested few impacts on Russia was

used in similar fashion by advocates to argue against the Kyoto

Protocol.  Pielke concludes, “In this manner, the science of climate

change becomes irreovocably politiciized , as partisans on either side

of the debate selectively array bits of science that best support

their position.”

6. TRENBERTH: “Pielke stresses economic data and dismisses the

importance of loss of life.”

REALITY: Wrong again. Pielke discusses loss of life related to climate

change on pp. 176-178

7. TRENBERTH: “Geoengineering is also dealt with by Pielke, but only briefly.”

REALITY Not so. Pielke devotes an entire chapter to geoengineering (Chapter 5).

8. TRENBERTH: “[Pielke] does not address the practicality of storing

all of the carbon dioxide.”

REALITY: Again, wrong. Pielke addresses the practicality of carbon

dioxide storage on pp. 133-134

And even with all these errors and false claims, Trenberth concludes

that the book is on the right track:

“[P]rogressively decarbonizing the economy and adopting an approach of

building more resiliency to climate events would be good steps in the

right direction”

Anyone who has read The Climate Fix should also read Trenberth’s

review, as they will learn something about Science magazine and a part

of climate science community.

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For those interested, Science Magazine offers Dr. Trenberth’s review here.

Unfortunately, it’s behind a paywall. Yeah, that’s gonna go far.

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MattN
November 27, 2010 12:18 pm

Did Trenberth even read the book?

tallbloke
November 27, 2010 1:09 pm

James Fosser says:
November 27, 2010 at 4:18 am (Edit)
I see Britain is having the heaviest November snowfalls for seventeen years and more to come over the next two weeks. All this after the heavy snowfalls just ten months ago.

I’ve just been out to warm up the engines of my vehicles, tonight will be a shocker for low temperature. Still, my old dad told me an old weather saying today which gives me hope.
“If November ice will bear a duck, not much after but slush and muck.”
We’ll see if this pre-war wisdom holds good seven decades later…

Mailman
November 27, 2010 2:01 pm

Alexander K says:
November 27, 2010 at 3:55 am
Im almost ashamed to say that he is a fellow countryman of mine.
kwik,
Bomber Harris did a tough job during a dark time in the period of the British empire. Dont allow todays leftist appeasing soft “c8cks” try and blot his name out of the history books. We should be so lucky to have someone like Bomber Harris (ie. a man who possesses a spine) in government today.
Mailman

Glenn of Oz
November 27, 2010 4:05 pm

One wonders if Trenberth actually read the book, or had someone else provide a summary to him.
The part I love the best is that “Trenberth selectively uses half
of a quote to imply that Pielke was making a claim that he did not”
, when the actual text in the book refers to the fact that partisans of either side selectively quote the facts that support their side of the argument.
The irony must be lost on Trenberth.

Jim Cole
November 27, 2010 5:08 pm

Pielke Jr and Trenberth both live (or at least work) in Boulder, Colorado.
It’s time for Live Combat! Pearl Street Mall in front of the Boulder Bookstore (selling copies of both guy’s books). High Noon. 12/21 Winter Solstice.
Trenberth uses a “heat ray”, powered by the “missing warming”. Travesty.
Pielke Jr. uses a “Squirrel Getter” super-soaker squirt gun. Eldorado Springs H2O
No CO2 generated in combat (except heavy breathing). Carbon-neutral, green city council approves.
My bet is on RP Jr.
Trenberth ran out of ammo long, long ago. His ice-covered remains should last until May.

899
November 27, 2010 6:26 pm

orkneygal says:
November 27, 2010 at 1:25 am
Dr. Pielke-
All you need to do is to find Trenberth’s missing heat for him and I am sure he will change his opinion of your work immediately.
Just a thought.

As with any attempt to prove a negative, trying to find that which never was, is just as futile.
That is to say that “Trenberth’s missing heat” is the essence of the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.
That’s a wee bit of Irish folklore, regarding said pot of gold, leprechauns and all that.
Maybe Trenberth should resort to searching for leprechauns? Aye!
:o)

899
November 27, 2010 6:36 pm

[snip – over the top ad hom against Louise ~mod]

RoHa
November 27, 2010 9:56 pm

” it’s a travesty that he can’t.”
A travesty of what?
Travesties are always travesties of something else (most commonly travesties of justice), so what is the something else in this case?

wreckage
November 28, 2010 2:06 am

Science, RoHa. Not uncommon to drop a word in informal communication; people still know what you’re saying. I dropped a word from my previous sentence to illustrate.

RichieP
November 28, 2010 5:35 am

Louise says:
November 27, 2010 at 5:37 am
‘Anthony – How much does he pay you for advertising his book? ‘
Probably not as much as you’re getting (is it $7 per hour now?) for trolling here. (sarc off)

Mick J
November 28, 2010 8:50 am

Ah, the name Louise. Not connected to the London Telegraphs green goddess I presume. Has been busy this week pasting all sorts. Two gems amongst many.
This has turned up everywhere, this is the Telegraphs spin.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/8159991/Global-warming-has-slowed-because-of-pollution.html
This one is really breathtaking.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/8104428/Helena-Christensen-calls-for-action-on-climate-change.html
Mick

kwik
November 28, 2010 4:06 pm

Jim Cole says:
November 27, 2010 at 5:08 pm
“Pielke Jr and Trenberth both live (or at least work) in Boulder, Colorado.”
I think the winther 2010 will be hard in Boulder Colorado.
Its a travesty.

Alexander K
November 29, 2010 2:11 am

Kwik, your comment surprises me – would you prefer WWII to have had a different outcome?

November 29, 2010 3:04 am

@Atomic Hairdryer

I think RPJr makes sense. Decarbonising is a sensible thing to do given supply security and resource competition, plus availability of more efficient alternatives.

Which is just another non-sequitur.
When more efficient alternatives are available they will be developed and used.
Supply security as a concept is as bad as “the precautionary principle”. We trade with others. We exchange stuff to improve our standard of living. The Middle East for example are scared witless of “demand security”. Those who sell us raw materials or are as vulnerable as we are who buy them.
Plus, fossil fuel supply is far more globally diversified than many of the raw materials essential for most of the touted “alternatives”. China is the only material source of rare earth metals – and they recently banned there exportation.
We will always be dependent on trade with other countries as they will be vulnerable to us in return.
So, we are still left with no case made.
Everyone who loves central planning and direction, because they think they know how best to organise our trade, please step aside.

George E. Smith
November 29, 2010 10:58 am

Well as to item #1; President George W. Bush’s rejection of Kyoto; hey Earth to critics ! this event was PRECEDED by the US Senate rejecting the Kyoto Treaty on a 94 to zilch, nothing, nada, vote. So who had GWB pegged as someone likely to run into a burning building just as it was about to collapse ?

George E. Smith
November 29, 2010 11:03 am

“”””” RoHa says:
November 27, 2010 at 9:56 pm
” it’s a travesty that he can’t.”
A travesty of what?
Travesties are always travesties of something else (most commonly travesties of justice), so what is the something else in this case? “””””
Well if you had said that “Travesties” are NEVER “travesties of something else”; you would more likely be correct; just as a “Haircut” is NOT a “haircut of something else.”
A travesty is a travesty; look it up in the OED to see what it means.

kim
November 30, 2010 7:56 am

Pielke Fils has put this on his own website, now.
Let’s see, we have Phony Jones, Piltdown Mann, and now Travesty Trenberth.
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