Weekly Climate and Energy News Roundup

THIS WEEK:

By Ken Haapala, Executive Vice President Science and Environmental Policy Project (SEPP)

Distinguished physicist Hal Lewis caused a furor when he submitted his letter of resignation to the American Physical Society (APS) The response from APS was more typical of an authoritarian organization than a scientific society. This week, Hal Lewis sent his response to APS which was posted, at his request, on Anthony Watts’ web site Watts Up With That. Lewis insists the statement by APS embracing the IPCC version of global warming must be retracted and proposes two reforms to the society. Please see Article # 1.

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The American Thinker published a piece by Fred Singer demonstrating that the biases in New York Times editorials lead to ludicrous assertions such as the newspaper accusing those who do not subscribe to Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) as denying climate change – something that has been taking place for millions of years. Such claims are the result of the failure by the newspaper to listen to the assertions those who challenge the IPCC and AGW advocates. Please see Article # 2.

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When the IPCC insisted that its 2007 Assessment Report was correct and the glaciers of the Himalayan Mountains will melt by 2035, the government of India engaged Indian Himalayan expert V.K. Raina to make an independent report. The independent report noted that some glaciers are receding and others are advancing. Sometimes different tongues of the same glacier are moving in opposite directions, one receding while another is advancing. There is no general trend. To double check this work, the government of India engaged Australian ice expert Cliff Ollier who described the work of VK. Rina as splendid and found the IPCC claims are “unsupported, unscientific, and wrong.”

The Global Warming Policy Forum published an exceptional article by Cliff Ollier on the ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica. Ollier devastates the naiveté displayed by alarmists in making their assertions. Apparently, many of these alarmists do not understand difference in the movement of ice if it is in a bowl that is right side up, or on a bowl that is upside down. Please see Article #3.

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On Monday, the Tribune Newspapers, to include the Chicago Tribune and the Los Angeles Times, carried an article announcing that several groups, including the American Geophysical Union (AGU), are preparing scientists to speak out against those who question that humans are causing unprecedented and dangerous global warming. This effort is apparently in response to polls showing that fewer people believe the AGW claim. The mantra of AGW enthusiasts is that the “deniers” are engaged in a well-funded, effective, and professionally run disinformation campaign in which AGW climate scientists cannot compete. They claim that this disinformation campaign supposedly creates confusion among the populace causing many people to think climate science is unreliable or controversial.

Roy Spencer quickly posted an effective rebuttal pointing out that it is the alarmists who have received billions of dollars for their work and have spent large sums on advertising campaigns. [The 2007 grand announcement of the Fourth IPCC Summary for Policymakers comes to mind, which was complete with glorious fireworks near the Eiffel Tower in Paris.] Please see Article # 4.

AGU quickly announced a qualifying statement saying it would enlist 700 climate scientists to respond to questions from journalists Needless to say, skeptics need not apply. Please see referenced articles under Defending the Orthodoxy.

If scientific organizations are truly interested in communicating the science of AGW to the public, they would disavow the propaganda that has infected the entire issue for decades. Necessary steps include stopping the use of scientifically meaningless slogans such as climate change, disruptive climate change, or climate protection as substitutes for the real issue: are humans causing unprecedented and dangerous global warming?

Those who wish to communicate science to the public should object to propaganda photos that commonly accompany articles on carbon dioxide. These ubiquitous photos show emissions from smokestacks at power plants blackening the sky. Carbon dioxide is invisible. What appears to be blackening the sky is water vapor condensing under certain atmospheric conditions and exceptional lighting conditions. Several examples appear in the articles referenced below including the article by Tribune Newspapers.

Those organizations claiming to be scientific should recognize ad hominem propaganda attacks, such the recent book by Oreskes and Conway, for what they are, and denounce those attacks rather than treat them as scientific works. And, of course, objective scientific organizations should proclaim the results of the IPCC models are sophisticated speculation from unverified models rather than scientifically supported predictions.

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A Wall Street Journal article on a leaked White House memo contained the Quote of the Week. Apparently the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the Treasury question the wisdom of huge subsidies for wind farms, thus are delaying approvals for massive amounts of subsidies under the stimulus bill. According to the article, a wind farm at Shepherds Flat, Oregon will receive a total of $1.2 Billion in Federal, state, and ratepayer subsidies. According to another article, the total permanent jobs created will be 35. This works out to over $34 Million per job. Please see Article #5.

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The 16th Conference of Parties (COP-16) under the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change will be held in Cancun, Mexico, starting November 29. It may be a dud. The original concept was to have nations commit to a new treaty far stronger than the Kyoto Protocol. In Article # 6, Bjorn Lomborg expresses why he thinks COP-16 may be a failure and then pleads for massive funds to support a technological fix to the non-problem of global warming. The skeptical environmentalist should become a skeptical economist, or physicist.

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Even though sustained US unemployment is the highest since the Great Depression, the EPA announced additional restrictive measures that will throttle economic growth. Please see articles referenced under EPA and Other Regulators On the March.

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THE NUMBER OF THE WEEK is 65.8 GWe to 0.7 GWe. This is the NET increase in capacity from coal-fired electrical generation for 2008 in China and in the US, respectively. According to the World Nuclear Association, referenced in an earlier TWTW, in 2008 China added 91.8 GWe of capacity in new coal-fired plants while closing 26 GWe in old coal-fired plants. According to the US Energy Information Administration the US added 1.5 GWe in new coal-fired plants while closing 0.8 GWe in old coal-fired plants. The additions were on existing sites.

Solar and wind advocates claim the US is losing the race with China for so – called 21st Century energy. Once again, it appears China is in a different race. ###################################################

ARTICLES:

For the numbered articles below please see

http://www.haapala.com/sepp/the-week-that-was.cfm..

1. Another letter from Hal Lewis to the American Physical Society

By Hal Lewis, WUWT, Nov 6, 2010

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/11/06/another-letter….

2. Climate Alarmism at the New York Times

By S. Fred Singer, American Thinker, Nov 7, 2010

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/11/climate_….

3. No Cause For Alarm Over Sea Level Or Ice Sheets

By Cliff Ollier, School of Earth and Environment, University of Western Australia, Nov 11, 2010 [H/t John Cribbs]

http://thegwpf.org/science-news/1837-no-cause-for-al….

4. Climate Scientists Plan Campaign Against global Warming Skeptics

By Roy Spencer, Nov 8, 2010

http://www.drroyspencer.com/…

5. Wind Jammers at the White House

A Larry Summers memo exposes the high cost of energy corporate welfare

Editorial, WSJ, Nov 11, 2010

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704635….

6. Can Anything Serious Happen in Cancun?

The upcoming climate summit promises more proposals that ignore economic reality.

By Bjorn Lomborg, WSJ, Nov 12, 2010

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703848….

[SEPP Comment: Another appeal for an expensive technological fix to a non-problem.]

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NEWS YOU CAN USE:

Climategate Continued

Environmentalists ‘exaggerated’ threat to tropical rainforests from global warming

By David Derbyshire, Mail Online, Nov 12, 2010 [H/t ICECAP]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13288….

Challenging the Orthodoxy

Branding of Dissenters Has Begun – Clearing The Path To A Climate Science Pogrom

By P. Gosselin, No Tricks Zone, Nov 11, 2010 [H/t WUWT]

http://notrickszone.com/2010/11/11/branding-of-scien….

[SEPP Comment: Fred Singer’s talk to the German Parliament created a hostile reaction from the Green Industry.]

McKitrick Rebuts Deutsche Bank

By Steve McIntyre, Climate Audit, Nov 9, 2010

http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/09/mckitrick-rebuts-….

[SEPP Comment: As noted in a prior TWTW, Deutsche Bank has a multi-billion dollar portfolio for Green investment. It engaged the Columbia Climate Center to justify such investments. The subsequent DB report incorrectly stated the conclusions of the 2006 reports by NAS and by Wegman et al. regarding the ‘hockey stick.’ The referenced paper further addresses such misstatements.]

Inconvenient nonsense infiltrates the classroom

By Bob Carter, The Australian, Nov 11, 2010

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/inconve….

Defending the Orthodoxy

Climate scientists plan campaign against global warming skeptics

The American Geophysical Union plans to announce that 700 researchers have agreed to speak out on the issue. Other scientists plan a pushback against congressional conservatives who have vowed to kill regulations on greenhouse gas emissions.

By Neela Banerjee, Chicago Tribune, Nov 8, 2010

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-na….

[SEPP Comment: Typical propaganda photo of smokestack emissions darkening the skies with condensing water vapor?]

AGU Manufacturing Climate Consensus

By Anne Jolie, WSJ Political Diary, Nov 12, 2010

http://www.icecap.us/…

Desperate Days For Global Warm-ongers

Editorial, IBD, Nov 11, 2010

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/553….

‘No climate talks in future if Cancun fails’

Chetan Chauhan, Hindustan Times, Nov 10, 2010 [H/t Marc Morano, Climate Depot]

http://www.hindustantimes.com/rssfeed/newdelhi/No-cl….

[SEPP Comment: Is this bad news?]

A Novel Tactic in Climate Fight Gains Some traction

By John Broder, NYT, Nov 8, 2010

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/09/science/earth/09mo….

[SEPP Comment: Distort the language of the Ozone Treaty to cover global warming.]

Bank Tax, CO2 Auctions Recommended by Soros Panel to Help Climate Efforts

By Alex Morales and Jim Efstathious, Bloomberg, Nov 5, 2010 [H/t Patrick Quirk]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-05/soros-panel….

Seeking a Common Ground

Is this the start of a proper, open debate on climate change?

By the Scientific Alliance, Nov 12, 2010 [H/t ICECAP]

http://www.scientific-alliance.org/…

[SEPP Comment: Thoughtful questions concerning those who are considered part of the orthodoxy but question its tactics and some of its conclusions.]

BP Oil Spill and Aftermath

Interior inspector general: White House skewed drilling-ban report

Dan Berman, Politico, Nov 9, 2010

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44921.html….

Anger overflows on drilling halt report

IG: Scientists didn’t back ban

By Kara Rowland, Washington Times, Nov 10, 2010

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/nov/10/ange….

Offshore Drilling Commission Convenes: Same Attacks, Still Missing The Facts

By Thomas Pyle, IBD, Nov 5, 2010

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/552….

Energy Issues

The Great Transmission Heist

The latest scheme to subsidize solar and wind power to the detriment of rate payers

Editorial, WSJ, Nov 7, 2010

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304772….

Food industry faces off against EPA over ethanol ruling

By P.J. Huffstutter, Los Angeles Times, Nov 11, 2010

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2010/11/epa….

EU biofuel policy will increase CO2 emissions, study says

By Andrew Willis, EU Observer, Nov 8, 2010 [H/t Catherine French]

http://euobserver.com/9/31210/?rk=1…

Cost of Green Power Makes Projects Tougher Sell

By Matthew Wald and Tom Zeller, NYT, Nov 7, 2010

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/08/science/earth/08fo….

Ethanol subsidies pose early test for the GOP

By Timothy Carney, Washington Examiner, Nov 5, 2010 [H/t Deke Forbes]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Ethanol-s….

IEA expects ‘golden age’ for gas industry

By Stefan Nicola, UPI, Nov 9, 2010 [H/t Toshio Fujita]

http://www.upi.com/Science_News/Resource-Wars/2010/1….

Global gas glut threatens alternative power sources: EIA

By Robin Pagnamenta, Times, AU, Nov 10, 2010

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-ener….

[SEPP Comment: Apparently alternative energy sources cannot compete with natural gas in many parts of the world.]

Green jobs cut despite government subsidy

Editorial, Orange County Register, Nov 10, 2010 [H/t WUWT]

http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/solyndra-275413-go….

[SEPP Comment: Even with $535 Million in loan guarantees to this Spanish company to build in the US, it could not compete with the Chinese.]

IET: Wind turbines and solar panels are not the best way for homes to reduce carbon emissions

Politics. UK. Oct 7, 2010

http://www.politics.co.uk/opinion-formers/press-rele….

EPA and other Regulators On the March

EPA’s Permitting Guidance for Greenhouse Gases – Does It Endanger Coal?

By Marlo Lewis, Global Warming. Org, Nov 11, 2010

http://www.globalwarming.org/2010/11/11/can-best-ava….

E.P.A. Issues Guidance on New Emissions Rules

By John Broder, NYT, Nov 10, 2010

http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/10/e-p-a-issu….

[SEPP Comment: Great propaganda photo of smokestack emissions from a coal-fired power plant near Emmitt, Kan. darkening the sky with – condensing water vapor?]

How EPA could destroy 7.3 million jobs

By William Shughart II, Washington Examiner, Nov 12, 2010

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/-W….

Bay cleanup could cost billions, require tax hikes

By Ben Giles, Washington Examiner, Nov 5, 2010

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/Bay-cleanup-….

Agency Pushes Halliburton to Hand Over Drilling Data

By Stephen Power and Siobhan Hughes, WSJ, Nov 10, 2010

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704635….

[SEPP Comment: Preparing to regulate hydraulic fracturing – the one bright spot in the energy picture?]

California Dreaming

California Dreaming: Missing America’s Wake-Up Call

By Larry Bell, Forbes.com, Nov 10, 2010

http://www.forbes.com/2010/11/10/california-texas-cl….

Calif.’s Little-Noticed Prop 26 Squeaks Through in Dead of Night

By Colin Sullivan, NYT, Nov 3, 2010

http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/11/03/03greenwire-….

Review of Recent Scientific Articles by NIPCC

For a full list of articles see

http://www.NIPCCreport.org…

A Century of Parana River Streamflow Data

Reference: Mauas, P.J.D., Flamenco, E. and Buccino, A.P 2008. Solar forcing of the stream flow of a continental scale South American river. Physical Review Letters 101: 168501.

http://www.nipccreport.org/articles/2010/nov/11nov20….

Floods of the Mississippi River System

Reference: Pinter, N., Jemberie, A.A., Remo, J.W.F., Heine, R.A. and Ickes, B.S. 2008. Flood trends and river engineering on the Mississippi River system.Geophysical Research Letters 35: 10.1029/2008GL035987

http://www.nipccreport.org/articles/2010/nov/10nov20….

Coral Reefs and Climate Change: Unproved Assumptions

Reference: Maynard, J.A., Baird, A.H. and Pratchett, M.S.. 2008b. Revisiting the Cassandra syndrome; the changing climate of coral reef research. Coral Reefs 27: 745-749..

http://www.nipccreport.org/articles/2010/nov/10nov20….

Global Warming and the Biodiversity of Small temperate Ponds

Reference: Rosset, V., Lehmann, A. and Oertli, B. 2010. Warmer and richer? Predicting the impact of climate warming on species richness in small temperate waterbodies. Global Change Biology 16: 2376-2387.

http://www.nipccreport.org/articles/2010/nov/10nov20….

Other Issues that May Be Of Interest

What the Green Movement Got Wrong: Greens come to see the error of their ways

By Charles Moore, Telegraph, UK, Nov 11, 2010 [H/t Joe Bast]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/charle….

The Crash Of The Climate Exchange

Editorial, IBD, Nov 9, 2010

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/553….

[SEPP Comment: Only after the original promoters made a bundle.]

Can the U.S. Compete on Rare Earths?

Editorial, NYT, Nov 9, 2010

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2010/11/08/can-….

Mining the Seafloor for Rare-Earth Minerals

By William Broad, NYT, Nov 8, 2010

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/09/science/09seafloor….

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BELOW THE BOTTOM LINE:

Current Global Warming May Reverse Circulation in Atlantic Ocean, as It Did 20,000 Years Ago

Science Daily, Nov 4, 2010 [H/t Eric Gottshall]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/1011031….

[SEPP Comment: At least according to the headline writer, a reversal of circulation in the Atlantic caused the global warming that ended the ice age. Now global warming will cause another reversal of circulation that will bring on a new ice age?]

Oil will run dry before substitutes roll out: study

At the current pace of research and development, global oil will run out 90 years before replacement technologies are ready, says a new University of California, Davis, study based on stock market expectations.

Physorg, Nov 9 2010 [H/t Toshio Fujita]

http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-11-oil-substitutes…..

[SEPP Comment: Poor concepts from economics come to engineering and physics.]

Flashback 2005: UN warns of 50 MILLION climate Refugees a year – by 2010

ICECAP, Nov 12, 2010

http://www.icecap.us/…

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31 thoughts on “Weekly Climate and Energy News Roundup

  1. We’re not getting much information in the U.S. about the upcoming COP-16 scare-a-thon. Here’s an article from the UK:
    http://www.publicservice.co.uk/news_story.asp?id=14685
    Thousands of taxpayer-funded scientists and NGOs partying November 29 – December 10 in the tropical vacation resort of Cancun — and no major media in the U.S. is reporting on it??
    Their goal is nothing less than a democracy-free world government under the guise of “saving the planet” from a harmless trace gas.

    Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early 21st century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally averaged temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a roll-back of the industrial age.

    ~ Prof Richard Lindzen [CV]

  2. Yet the world keeps warming. People can be fooled and politicians can be bought. But thermodynamics and basic chemistry go on impervious to propaganda and [snip].
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/science/earth/14ice.html?_r=1&hp
    As a result of recent calculations that take the changes into account, many scientists now say that sea level is likely to rise perhaps three feet by 2100 — an increase that, should it come to pass, would pose a threat to coastal regions the world over.
    And the calculations suggest that the rise could conceivably exceed six feet, which would put thousands of square miles of the American coastline under water and would probably displace tens of millions of people in Asia.
    The scientists say that a rise of even three feet would inundate low-lying lands in many countries, rendering some areas uninhabitable. It would cause coastal flooding of the sort that now happens once or twice a century to occur every few years. It would cause much faster erosion of beaches, barrier islands and marshes. It would contaminate fresh water supplies with salt.
    In the United States, parts of the East Coast and Gulf Coast would be hit hard. In New York, coastal flooding could become routine, with large parts of Queens and Brooklyn especially vulnerable. About 15 percent of the urbanized land in the Miami region could be inundated. The ocean could encroach more than a mile inland in parts of North Carolina.
    Abroad, some of the world’s great cities — London, Cairo, Bangkok, Venice and Shanghai among them — would be critically endangered by a three-foot rise in the sea.
    Climate scientists readily admit that the three-foot estimate could be wrong. Their understanding of the changes going on in the world’s land ice is still primitive. But, they say, it could just as easily be an underestimate as an overestimate. One of the deans of American coastal studies, Orrin H. Pilkey of Duke University, is advising coastal communities to plan for a rise of at least five feet by 2100.

  3. Mike says: November 14, 2010 at 7:59 am
    [link]
    As a result of recent calculations that take the changes into account, many scientists now say that sea level is likely to rise perhaps three feet by 2100 — an increase that, should it come to pass, would pose a threat to coastal regions the world over.

    Recent observations, since 2002, show about a 33% reduction in sea level rising rates. It will take over a century to gain a foot.
    http://sealevel.colorado.edu/

  4. I once had a brief interchange with a Greenland ice core researcher in a climate book discussion group. I said that Greenland was bowl shaped. He replied that it was higher centrally than at the edges. Later, I figured out that he meant the shape of Greenland with the ice on it, and of course, I’d been talking about the shape of Greenland without the ice on it. I pointed this out, and believe it or not he pretended to the audience that he didn’t know the shape of the underlying land. I was left with the distinct impression that he didn’t want anyone in the group to understand that the Greenland ice sheet can’t slide cataclysmically into the sea.
    Oh, well; friend of the Thompsons. What can I say?
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  5. Mike,
    Take a chill pill, you’re scaring yourself.
    The NY Times article is alarmist propaganda, with lots of statements like “no meaningful upper limit could be put on the potential rise of sea level.” In fact, the rise in sea level is completely ordinary; the result of natural cycles.
    Contrary to the NY Times spin, sea level rise has been slowing.
    Of course, more tax money is always the answer:

    A plan by President George W. Bush to return to the moon without allocating substantial new money squeezed budgets at NASA. Now, the Obama administration is seeking to chart a new course, abandoning the goal of returning to the moon and seeking a substantial increase in financing for earth sciences.

    Obama has taken the funds intended for space exploration and shoveled them into the pockets of scientists and universities doing “global warming studies.”
    China will now take the high ground and plant its flag on the moon – while we squander $Trillions on non-existent CAGW.

  6. Mike quotes:
    “Climate scientists readily admit that the three-foot estimate could be wrong. Their understanding of the changes going on in the world’s land ice is still primitive. But, they say, it could just as easily be an underestimate as an overestimate.”
    Never forget Pascal:
    Theologians readily admit that the most-are-damned estimate could be wrong. Their understanding of the changes going on in the world’s spirituality is still primitive. But, they say, it could just as easily be an underestimate as an overestimate.
    Are you persuaded to convert?

  7. Something else is dying as a result of Anthroprogenic Global Warming. It’s on its last breath of two and will soon pass into history – an “independent” free press.
    PS: I don’t expect that the World Wide Web will remain very free too much longer either. C’est La Vie as they say.

  8. Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early 21st century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally averaged temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a roll-back of the industrial age.
    ~ Prof Richard Lindzen

    Dear Professor: You are extremely kind in saying “will wonder in bemused amazement “. It will be remembered as the worst planned “conspiracy” ever imagined by the “best and superior minds”(so they consider themselves), obviously intoxicated with an excess dosis of self indulging arguments and overflowing with self-conceit, which was, of course, originally given to them by their “mommies and daddies”.
    Only the great George Carlin, defined it properly:
    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLkzz6r-yko&fs=1&hl=en_US]

  9. Although the general public might not know the extent of scientific research, they do have an instinct for what is or is not the case.
    It was long ago discovered that gravity keeps us from floating around. Yet it seems so obvious, post Newton. If a new consensus said that gravity wasn’t the pull that all objects with mass have, but was the result of only its velocity and a theory was concocted to explain why this was so, I’m sure even the most unscientific mind would consider such a theory to be nonsense.

  10. Excellent summary of news. I commend another post flagged at at ICECAP:
    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/40952.html
    “If IPCC Climate scientists were Physicists: The IPCC has found that the total net anthropogenic forcing is 1.6 W.m-2 with an error range of 0.6 to 2.4 W.m-2. If the IPCC’s same errors for Radiative Forcing Components were applied to the universal gravitational constant, IPCC climate scientists would tell us that the UGC is 6.67 � 10-11 N�m2/kg2 with a range of 2.5-10 N�m2/kg2. They would then assure us there is 90% certainty that acceleration due to gravity on Earth at sea level is in the range 3.7 to 14.7 m.s-2. IPCC climate scientists would tell us apples may be as light as a feather or as heavy as a brick. They would tell us apples fall down, but they’d be unable to tell us how fast, and occasionally they may actually fall upwards.”
    Marc Hendridckx runs through a few academic disciplines and illustrates what the received wisdom would be if IPCC methodology was considered acceptable. Not only the sciences, but the humanities, would be telling us some very strange things. It’s a good read.

  11. @Smokey:
    You are concerned about the taxpayer’s money, but you want to spend it to put a flag on the moon? Even if climate change were natural it would make sense to invest in the study of Earth’s climate. You are putting ideology ahead of any sort of reasoning.

  12. More news!
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101108151328.htm
    New Ocean Acidification Study Shows Added Danger to Already Struggling Coral Reefs
    ScienceDaily (Nov. 13, 2010) — Over the next century, recruitment of new corals could drop by 73 percent, as rising carbon dioxide levels turn the oceans more acidic, suggests a new study led by scientists at the University of Miami Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science. The research findings reveal a new danger to the already threatened Caribbean and Florida reef Elkhorn corals.

  13. Mike says:
    November 14, 2010 at 1:48 pm
    @Smokey:
    You are concerned about the taxpayer’s money, but you want to spend it to put a flag on the moon? Even if climate change were natural it would make sense to invest in the study of Earth’s climate. You are putting ideology ahead of any sort of reasoning.
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    It would be infinitely more beneficial to humans if the next $100b was spent on space travel rather than squandering it on funding research continuing to try and prove a link between CO2 and temperature.
    Some rich man once said “I spent most of my money on women, booze and drugs and squandered the rest of it.”

  14. 18 countries — so far in 2010 — have set national heat records (note the word national) and 0 countries have set a national cold record. Whats up with that?

  15. drewski says:
    November 14, 2010 at 5:54 pm
    18 countries — so far in 2010 — have set national heat records (note the word national) and 0 countries have set a national cold record. Whats up with that?
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    Hi drewski – do you have a link? What data was used?

  16. Mike says:
    November 14, 2010 at 1:48 pm
    @Smokey:
    You are concerned about the taxpayer’s money, but you want to spend it to put a flag on the moon? Even if climate change were natural it would make sense to invest in the study of Earth’s climate. You are putting ideology ahead of any sort of reasoning.

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    Mike, I thought Smokey was making a point about the strategic aspects of the U.S. having the technology to get to the moon and, as mentioned, then holding the high ground, as opposed to the Chinese holding the high ground. Seems like fairly good reasoning to me, but that’s just me.
    Meanwhile, I loved this facepalm moment from the summary:
    “Flashback 2005: UN warns of 50 MILLION climate Refugees a year – by 2010”
    When will they get with the program and only make predictions 50 or more years away like the rest of the profits of doom? Sheesh! What a bunch of maroons!

  17. @James Allison
    This is from the NOAA, but extensive credit for researching these records goes to weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera, who maintains a comprehensive set of extreme temperature records on his web site. Records are listed below. As well, all-time national heat records were missed by 1°C or less in at least 5 other nations this summer, including China, the Azores, Morocco, Estonia, and Latvia.
    The List:
    Belarus recorded its hottest temperature in its history on August 6, 2010, when the mercury hit 38.9°C (102.0°F) in Gorky. The previous record was 38.0°C (100.4°F) set at Vasiliyevichy on Aug. 20, 1946.
    Ukraine recorded its hottest temperature in its history when the mercury hit 42.0°C (107.6°F) at Lukhansk on August 12, 2010. The previous record was set at the same location on August 1, 2010–41.3°C (106.3°F). Ukraine also reached 41.3°C on July 20 and 21, 2007, at Voznesensk.
    Cyprus recorded its hottest temperature in its history on August 1, 2010 when the mercury hit 46.6°C (115.9°F) at Lefconica. The old record for Cyprus was 44.4°C (111.9°F) at Lefkosia in August 1956. An older record of 46.6°C from July 1888 was reported from Nicosia, but is of questionable reliability.
    Finland recorded its hottest temperature on July 29, 2010, when the mercury hit 37.2°C (99°F) at Joensuu. The old (undisputed) record was 95°F (35°C) at Jyvaskyla on July 9, 1914.
    Qatar had its hottest temperature in history on July 14, 2010, when the mercury hit 50.4°C (122.7°F) at Doha Airport.
    Russia had its hottest temperature in history on July 11, when the mercury rose to 44.0°C (111.2°F) in Yashkul, Kalmykia Republic, in the European portion of Russia near the Kazakhstan border. The previous hottest temperature in Russia (not including the former Soviet republics) was the 43.8°C (110.8°F) reading measured at Alexander Gaj, Kalmykia Republic, on August 6, 1940. The remarkable heat in Russia this year has not been limited just to the European portion of the country–the Asian portion of Russia also recorded its hottest temperature in history this year, a 42.7°C (108.9°F) reading at Ust Kara, in the Chita Republic on June 27. The 42.3°C (108.1°F) reading on June 25 at Belogorsk, near the Amur River border with China, also beat the old record for the Asian portion of Russia. The previous record for the Asian portion of Russia was 41.7°C (107.1°F) at Aksha on July 21, 2004.
    Sudan recorded its hottest temperature in its history on June 22 when the mercury rose to 49.7°C (121.5°F) at Dongola. The previous record was 49.5°C (121.1°F) set in July 1987 in Aba Hamed.
    Niger tied its record for hottest day in history on June 22, 2010, when the temperature reached 47.1°C (116.8°F) at Bilma. That record stood for just one day, as Bilma broke the record again on June 23, when the mercury topped out at 48.2°C (118.8°F). The previous record was 47.1°C on May 24, 1998, also at Bilma.
    Saudi Arabia had its hottest temperature ever on June 22, 2010, with a reading of 52.0°C (125.6°F) in Jeddah, the second largest city in Saudi Arabia. The previous record was 51.7°C (125.1°F), at Abqaiq, date unknown. The record heat was accompanied by a sandstorm, which caused eight power plants to go offline, resulting in blackouts to several Saudi cities.
    Chad had its hottest day in history on June 22, 2010, when the temperature reached 47.6°C (117.7°F) at Faya. The previous record was 47.4°C (117.3°F) at Faya on June 3 and June 9, 1961.
    Kuwait recorded its hottest temperature in history on June 15 in Abdaly, according to the Kuwait Met office. The mercury hit 52.6°C (126.7°F). Kuwait’s previous all-time hottest temperature was 51.9°C (125.4°F), on July 27,2007, at Abdaly. Temperatures reached 51°C (123.8°F) in the capital of Kuwait City on June 15, 2010.
    Iraq had its hottest day in history on June 14, 2010, when the mercury hit 52.0°C (125.6°F) in Basra. Iraq’s previous record was 51.7°C (125.1°F) set August 8, 1937, in Ash Shu’aybah.
    Pakistan had its hottest temperature in history on May 26, when the mercury hit an astonishing 53.5°C (128.3°F) at the town of MohenjuDaro, according to the Pakistani Meteorological Department. While this temperature reading must be reviewed by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) for authenticity, not only is the 128.3°F reading the hottest temperature ever recorded in Pakistan, it is the hottest reliably measured temperature ever recorded on the continent of Asia. The old Pakistani record was 52.8°C (127°F) at Jacobabad in 1919.
    Myanmar (Burma) had its hottest temperature in its recorded history on May 14, when the mercury hit 47.2°C (117.0°F) in Myinmu. This broke the record of 47.0°C set at the same location two days previous (May 12.) Myanmar’s previous hottest temperature was 46.0°C (114.4°F) at Magwe in May, 1980. According to Chris Burt, author of the authoritative weather records book Extreme Weather, the 47.2°C measured this year is the hottest temperature in Southeast Asia history.
    Ascention Island (St. Helena, a U.K. Territory) had its hottest temperature in history on March 25, 2010, when the mercury hit 34.9°C (94.8°F) at Georgetown. The previous record was 34.0°C (93.2°F) at Georgetown in April 2003, exact day unknown.
    The Solomon Islands had their hottest temperature in history on February 1, 2010, when the mercury hit 36.1°C (9°F) at Honiara Henderson. The previous record for the Solomon Islands was 35.6°C (96.0°F) at Honaiara, date unknown.
    Colombia had its hottest reliably measured temperature in history on January 24, 2010, when Puerto Salgar hit 42.3°C (108°F). The previous record was 42.0°C (107.6°F) at El Salto in March 1988 (exact day unknown)Some unreliable extreme highs include 43.0°C at Puerto Salgar in May 2002, and 42.7°C at Barrancabermeja in December 1949.
    All-time national heat records were missed by 1°C or less in many other nations this summer, including China, the Azores, Morocco, Estonia, and Latvia.
    Extensive credit for researching these records goes to weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera, who maintains a comprehensive set of extreme temperature records on his web site.

  18. “”””” kim says:
    November 14, 2010 at 8:54 am
    I once had a brief interchange with a Greenland ice core researcher in a climate book discussion group. I said that Greenland was bowl shaped. “””””
    Well Kim, even I know that Greenland is bowl shaped, In fact I have heard it referred to as a ring of islands. But I don’t know if that is an exaggeration; but I’m sure you are correct on the bowl shape;
    Well you see those ice rivers may just get rolling fast enough that they end up running up the sides of the bowl and spill out over the top.
    I am sure that Svend Hendriksen will write and warn us if the great slopover gets underway. Meanwhile Svend ; you watch you back there Mate; and don’t let that ice pass you by on its way out of the bowl.

  19. “”””” drewski says:
    November 14, 2010 at 11:25 pm
    @James Allison
    This is from the NOAA, but extensive credit for researching these records goes to weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera, who maintains a comprehensive set of extreme temperature records on his web site. Records are listed below. As well, all-time national heat records were missed by 1°C or less in at least 5 other nations this summer, including China, the Azores, Morocco, Estonia, and Latvia. “””””
    So did Maximiliano also publish a list of all the places that did not have all time record high temperatures in 2010, and are there more names on that list than on the othr list.
    And for how many million years back does Max have this data; it seems that earth was onece much hotter all over; than any of those places he mentioned.
    If you take Temperature records outside your back door every day at some specified time; for 100 years; then for every date, there’s probably a 1% chance of a new daily high, or a new daily low, or a new high wind speed or rainfall, so you can expect 3.65 new daily highs each year and 3.65 daily lows each year.
    Some time has to be the all time local extrrema; so it will happen with or wiothout our influence.

  20. Yes George, If temperatures were not warming, the number of record daily highs and lows being set each year would be approximately even. Instead, for the period from January 1, 2000, to September 30, 2009, the continental United States set 291,237 record highs and 142,420 record lows, as the country experienced unusually mild winter weather and intense summer heat waves.
    For the year to date, new highs are exceeding new lows by a ratio of 2.8 to 1 and for October, 2010 there were over 1500 new record highs, vs. slightly more than 300 lows, giving a ratio of 4.75 to 1.
    What’s Up With That?
    The study, by authors at NCAR, Climate Central, The Weather Channel, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), has been accepted for publication in Geophysical Research Letters. It was funded by the National Science Foundation, NCAR’s sponsor, the Department of Energy, and Climate Central.
    The study team analyzed several million daily high and low temperature readings taken over the span of six decades at about 1,800 weather stations across the country, thereby ensuring ample data for statistically significant results. The readings, collected at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Climatic Data Center, undergo a quality control process at the data center that looks for such potential problems as missing data as well as inconsistent readings caused by changes in thermometers, station locations, or other factors.

  21. drewski,
    Here are 150 national temperatures listed seasonally [Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter]: click
    And high/low record temperature records: click
    And the global mean temperature from 1880 — on a normal y-axis: click
    And raw monthly hi/lo global temps since 1950: click
    Yes, global temperature has risen a few tenths of a degree since the LIA. This is just the normal ebb and flow of the climate. But there is zero empirical evidence verifying that CO2 is the cause.
    CO2 probably has a slight effect, but it is so insignificant that it is unmeasurable. And that is the central argument, isn’t it? Because if “carbon” doesn’t drive the climate, then there is no reason to waste any more tax money on that repeatedly falsified scare.
    The whole CO2 alarm has been debunked ever since Arrhenius recanted his 1896 paper that claimed a high climate sensitivity to CO2. But when the scientific method is ignored, bad ideas tend to persist — especially when fueled with public grant money.
    Take away the taxpayer loot, and the “carbon” scare will go the way of the ALAR scare, the Y2K scare, the killer bees scare, and all the other scares that came to absolutely nothing.

  22. Hi Smokey,
    Is it just me or do you also see about 140 out of the 150 country temperature records are trending upwards?
    But no doubt you are right about the insignificance of CO2 — now you just have to change the minds of all those reputable science organizations, societies, clubs and universities all over the world who think otherwise.
    Good luck!

  23. drewski,
    Thank you.
    The truth is slowly winning out, as we see from the growing numbers of formerly worried folks who are now skeptics. IMHO, unless evidence is found showing conclusively that CO2 is the main driver of the climate, the ranks of skeptics will continue to grow.

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