By Steve Goddard
From the Declining Spring Snowpack Department:
Mammoth Mountain, California June 2, 2010
State % of Average Snowpack ----------- ------------ NEVADA 186 CALIFORNIA 176 OREGON 154 IDAHO 129 WYOMING 116 MONTANA 114 WASHINGTON 112 UTAH 107 ALASKA 79 COLORADO 54 NEW MEXICO 36 ARIZONA 9
A few years ago, our friends at Real Climate made this not very insightful post :
Has Pacific Northwest snowpack declined? Yes.
Well, actually – no. Oregon State Climatologist George Taylor lost his job over this issue. He dared to question the Global Warming Church Orthodoxy.
George Taylor on Global Warming.
by Gienie Assink Tuesday, October 16. 2007
By: Suzanne Penegor
Oregon State Climatologist George Taylor returned to the Lane County Rubicon Society on Sept. 27th to speak as a private citizen regarding global warming issues. The political climate for Taylor has been heated since he disagreed with Gov. Kulongoski by refusing to toe the “politically correct” political line.
Taylor said he still expects the governor to take away his title of state climatologist because of a slight disagreement on global warming issues. When Kulongoski developed the Oregon Strategy for Greenhouse Gas Reductions recently, he didn’t even ask for Taylor’s input.
Taylor discussed the history of climate cycles and how, for example, Oregon’s climate was actually much warmer in the 1930s than they are today. Also in the early 1800s there were 2 years where we had no summers in the US. Taylor said World War II enhanced a temperature increase and discussed how cities’ temperatures tend to be higher than rural areas due to human development. Taylor noted that where measurements are taken can affect the temperatures and the data we use to determine climate changes.
Taylor said the greenhouse effect is invisible and essential to life on Earth. He said 90% of it is water vapor and then the rest of it is methane and carbon dioxide.
Taylor noted that the tropical pacific patterns, the El Nino and La Nina events, and the impact they have on global temperatures overall. He said humans have some impact, but not nearly as much as sunspot activity or natural disturbances like volcanic activity over time.
Taylor went on to say that those who espouse the global warming line often point to the snowpack levels. He said a Washington climatologist was fired over climate issues that were not politically correct regarding snowpack levels and left sided concerns. Taylor said there are cyclical periods of La Nina and El Nino which effect snowpack levels.
He said the debate over sea level changes is an ongoing debate over whether the current changes are steady and reliable trends. He also mentioned how it is estimated that at the current rate, the global sea level may rise 8 to 17 inches per 100 years.
Moreover, heating the ocean takes a considerable amount of time. He said in the 1940s there was also an increase in arctic temperatures. And in the 1970s the big concern in the media was the possibility of another ice age or global cooling.
Taylor goes on to say scientists believe that in 2020 the global climate could return to a cooler period as sunspot activity is expected to change.
Taylor addressed the issue of whether the glaciers, sharing how they are shrinking due to human impact. He said there was much melting of the glaciers before 1950 and the SUV theory was a bit off. Taylor said surface temperatures may not be the best measure of climate change anyway, particularly on where the measurements are taken.
It was noted that the Montreal Protocol banned the use of human-made compounds that were suspected of damaging the ozone layer; however, no apparent change has occurred since that Protocol was created, so it begs the question of whether humans really impact the ozone layer as scientists predicted.
Taylor is a published author of several books regarding Oregon’s climate history.


My wife and I were in the Sierras today at the southeastern end of Yostemite in the Ansel Adams wilderness. Normally Beasore meadows and all of the campgrounds in this area are open at this time of year. We could not get within 5 miles of Beasore or 3 miles from the end of the road on highway 81. All routes, even the 4×4 trails are completely blocked by snow above about 6600 ft altitude. All of these areas usually are open by Memorial day weekend. At the current melt rate it will be next weekend or longer before these areas open up.
Today was hot though and there is a flood warning out for the Merced river at Yosemite.
Ahhh… Oregon. Such a stupendously beautiful state.
They do so many things right….mandatory bike lines, the forward-thinking metropolis called Portland, captilaizing on their immense and plentiful natural resources and interesting geology for tourism and businesses.
Too bad the governor is a climate-change automaton and a bureaucrat at that.
I remember the October before last when I had some time to kill in Portland, and walking through the leafy city parks that line museums, coffee shops, universities, and damn good restaurants, there was an autumnal stillness in the air as the maples silently shedded their clothing.
The PDO and La Nina were announcing change. And a big change it was! What a winter for the Pacific NW!
Not that this past one with its frigid December start, and late Spring finale, was anything to shake a stick at!
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
Correction: bike lanes
Must suprpess Taylor. We can’t have anyone questioning the party line.
Henry chance,
The judge relented a few days ago, and some (but not all) of the water is now flowing south again. There will likely be an appeal by the greenies, so this is not over yet.
http://www.acwa.com/news/endangered-invasive-species/judge-wanger-rules-delta-smelt
This also has a link to the judge’s decision.
…THE FLOOD ADVISORY FOR MELTING SNOW REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 115 PM MDT TUESDAY FOR WEST CENTRAL WELD…BOULDER AND LARIMER COUNTIES…
RIVERS AND CREEKS REMAINING IN THE ADVISORY INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO THE CACHE LA POUDRE AND BIG THOMPSON RIVERS AND THEIR TRIBUTARIES IN LARIMER COUNTY…SAINT VRAIN AND BOULDER CREEKS AND THEIR TRIBUTARIES IN BOULDER COUNTY…AND THE CACHE LA POUDRE RIVER IN RURAL AREAS OF WELD COUNTY BETWEEN FORT COLLINS AND GREELEY.
Starting to see some flooding from the melt. Flood warning today on the Merced. And the jet stream is moving south again, prog’ing rain into the north bay by tomorrow night. Then, the mother low of that system is supposed to turn hard right and morph into a Tonopah Low. That could actually increase the snow pack above say 5K (or maybe even lower). We’re facing the possibility of record cold by the end of the week from this. Probably no precip west of the Sierra unless there is a cold Santa Ana in which case some SoCal ranges may get some as well.
I am blessed and a bit red-faced at the words from my friend Mike D (6/5). Mike, you went way overboard in your praise, but…thanks! I am happily retired from Oregon State University, keeping busy in my little business (Applied Climate Services). I’m not getting rich (sorry, Mike), but my life is richer because I can be self-employed, say what I want to say, and choose the kind of work I want to do. I am a fortunate man to have friends like Mike.
CarlNC says: “There is an apparent discrepency between http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/docs.php?target=ssmi and the USDA report. Can someone explain why such a difference. Rutgers appears to indicate there is no snow in the lower 48. What am I missing?”
Carl, it’s “rotten” snow.
SteveSadlov says: June 7, 2010 at 3:25 pm That could actually increase the snow pack above say 5K (or maybe even lower). We’re facing the possibility of record cold by the end of the week from this.
you are not kidding. floods today and snow for the weekend!
George Taylor says:
June 7, 2010 at 3:40 pm
I am blessed and a bit red-faced at the words from my friend Mike D (6/5). Mike, you went way overboard in your praise, but…thanks! I am happily retired from Oregon State University, keeping busy in my little business (Applied Climate Services). I’m not getting rich (sorry, Mike), but my life is richer because I can be self-employed, say what I want to say, and choose the kind of work I want to do.
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(Robt is stumped!) But, but, but … Don’t you want to be all wrapped in that nice safe free-from-hassle ivory tower all protected by tenure and awards and a pleasant, non-competitive environment of love and well-funded honest research without any pressure to conform to the local norms?
/sarchasm – The gaping whole between a liberal and the real world. 8<)