Trust and Mistrust

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

Following up on the excellent initiative of Dr. Judith Curry (see Judith’s post and my response ), I would like to see what I can do to rebuild the justifiably lost trust in climate science. I want to bring some clarity to terms which are used all the time but which don’t seem to have an agreed upon meaning. In the process, I want to detail my own beliefs about the climate and how it works.

Figure 1. Dr Judith Curry tries to warn the greenhouse warming scientists … from Cartoons By Josh.

I don’t know about you, but I’m weary of the vague statements that characterise many of the discussions about climate change. These range from the subtle to the ridiculous. An example would be “I believe in climate change”. Given that the climate has been changing since there has been climate, what does that mean?

We also hear that there is a “consensus” … but when you ask for the actual content of the consensus, what exactly are the shared beliefs, a great silence ensues.

Often we see people being called unpleasant terms like “deniers”, with the ugly overtones of “Holocaust deniers”. I’ve been called that myself many times … but what is it that I am being accused of denying?

In an attempt to cut through the mashed potatoes and get to the meat, let me explain in question and answer format what I believe, and provide some citations for my claims. (These are only indicative citations from among many I could provide on each topic.) I will also indicate how much scientific agreement I think there is on the questions. First, some introductory questions.

Preface Question 1. Do you consider yourself an environmentalist?

I bring this up to get rid of the canard that people who don’t believe the “consensus science” on global warming are evil people who don’t care about the planet. I am a passionate environmentalist, and I have been so since 1962 when I first read Silent Spring upon its publication. I believe that we have an obligation to respect the natural ecosystems that we live among. My reasons are simple. First, we have a responsibility to be good guests and good stewards here on this amazing planet. Second, I worked extensively in my life as a commercial fisherman, and I would like for my grandchildren to have the same opportunity. The only way to do this is to monitor and be careful with our effects on the earth and the biosphere.

Preface Question 2. What single word would you choose to describe your position on climate science?

Heretic. I am neither an anthopogenic global warming (AGW) supporter nor a skeptic, I believe the entire current climate paradigm is incorrect.

Question 1. Does the earth have a preferred temperature which is actively maintained by the climate system?

To me this is the question that we should answer first. I believe that the answer is yes. Despite millennia-long volcanic eruptions, despite being struck by monstrous asteroids, despite changes in the position of the continents, as near as we can tell the average temperature of the earth has only varied by about plus or minus three percent in the last half-billion years. Over the last ten thousand years, the temperature has only varied by plus or minus one percent. Over the last 150 years, the average temperature has only varied by plus or minus 0.3%.  For a system as complex and ever-changing as the climate, this is nothing short of astounding.

Before asking any other questions about the climate, we must ask why the climate has been so stable. Until we answer that question, trying to calculate the climate sensitivity is an exercise in futility.

I have explained in “The Thermostat Hypothesis” what I think is the mechanism responsible for this unexplained stability. My explanation may be wrong, but there must be some mechanism which has kept the global temperature within plus or minus 1% for ten thousand years.

I am, however, definitely in the minority with this opinion.

Question 2. Regarding human effects on climate, what is the null hypothesis?

If we are trying to see if humans have affected the climate, the null hypothesis has to be that any changes in the climate (e.g. changes in temperature, rainfall, snow extent, sea ice coverage, drought occurrence and severity) are due to natural variations.

Question 3. What observations tend to support or reject the null hypothesis?

As I show in “Congenital Climate Abnormalities”, not only are there no “fingerprints” of human effects in the records, but I find nothing that is in any way unusual or anomalous. Yes, the earth’s temperature is changing slightly … but that has been true since the earth has had a temperature.

There is no indication that the recent warming is any different from past warmings. There is more and more evidence that the Medieval Warm period was widespread, and  that it was warmer than the present.  The Greenland ice cores show that we are at the cold end of the Holocene (the current inter-glacial period). There have been no significant changes in rainfall, floods, sea level rise, Arctic temperatures, or other indicators.

In short, I find no climate metrics that show anything which is anomalous or outside of historical natural variations. In the absence of such evidence, we cannot reject the null hypothesis.

Question 4. Is the globe warming?

This is a trick question. It is a perfect example of a frequently asked question which is totally meaningless. It shows up all the time on public opinion polls, but it is devoid of meaning. To make it meaningful, it needs to have a time period attached to it. Here are some examples of my views on the question:

1 During the last century, the earth warmed slightly (less than 1°C).

2 The earth has generally cooled over the last 12,000 years. We are currently at the cold end of the Holocene (the period since the end of the last Ice Age. See the Greenland and Vostok ice records.

3 The earth has generally warmed since the depths of the Little Ice Age around 1650, at a rate somewhere around a half a degree Celsius per century. See Akasufo, the Central England Temperature (CET), and the Armagh records.

4 The largest warming in any instrumental record occurred around 1680 – 1730. See the CET and Armagh records.

5 The earth was either stable or cooled slightly from about 1945 to 1975.

6 The earth warmed slightly from about 1975 to 1998.

7 There has been no significant warming from 1995 to the present (Feb. 2010). See The Reference Frame Phil Jones.

I would say that there is widespread scientific agreement on the existence of these general trends. The amount of the warming, however, is far less certain. There is current controversy about both the accuracy of the adjustments to the temperature measurements and the strength of local effects (UHI, poor station siting, warmth from irrigation, etc.). See e.g. McKitrick, Spencer, Christy and Norris, Ladochy et al.., Watts, SurfaceStations, and Jones on these questions.

Question 5. Are humans responsible for global warming?

This is another trick question that often shows up on polls. The question suffers from two problems. First is the lack of a time period discussed above. The second is the question of the amount of responsibility. Generally, the period under discussion is the post-1900 warming. So let me rephrase the question as “Are humans responsible for some part of the late 20th century warming?”

To this question I would say “Yes”. Again, there is widespread scientific agreement on that simplistic question, but as usual, the devil is in the details discussed in Question 4.

Question 6. If the answer to Question 5 is “Yes”, how are humans affecting the climate?

I think that humans affect the climate in two main ways. The first is changes in land use/land cover, or what is called “LU/LC”. I believe that when you cut down a forest, you cut down the clouds. This mechanism has been implicated in e.g. the decline in the Kilimanjaro Glacier. When you introduce widespread irrigation, the additional water vapor both warms and moderates the climate. When you pave a parking lot, local temperatures rise. See e.g. Christie and Norris, Fall et al., Kilimanjaro.

The second main way humans affect climate is through soot, which I will broadly define as black and brown carbon. Black carbon comes mostly from burning of fossil fuels, while brown carbon comes mostly from the burning of biofuels. This affects the climate in two ways. In the air, the soot absorbs incoming solar radiation, and prevents it from striking the ground. This reduces the local temperature. In addition, when soot settles out on ice and snow, it accelerates the melting of the ice and snow. This increases the local temperature by reducing the surface albedo. See e.g. Jacobson.

There is little scientific agreement on this question. A number of scientists implicate greenhouse gases as the largest contributor. Other scientists say that LU/LC is the major mover. The IPCC places values on these and other so-called “forcings”, but it admits that our scientific understanding of many of forcings is “low”.

Question 7. How much of the post 1980 temperature change is due to human activities?

Here we get into very murky waters. Is the overall balance of the warming and cooling effects of soot a warming or a cooling? I don’t know, and there is little scientific agreement on the effect of soot. In addition, as shown above there is no indication that the post 1980 temperature rise is in any way unusual. It is not statistically different from earlier periods of warming. As a result, I believe that humans have had little effect on the climate, other than locally. There is little scientific agreement on this question.

Next, some more general and theoretical questions.

Question 8. Does the evidence from the climate models show that humans are responsible for changes in the climate?

This is another trick question. Climate models do not produce evidence. Evidence is observable and measurable data about the real world. Climate model results are nothing more than the beliefs and prejudices of the programmers made tangible. While the results of climate models can be interesting and informative, they are not evidence.

Question 9. Are the models capable of projecting climate changes for 100 years?

My answer to this is a resounding “no”. The claim is often made that it is easier to project long-term climate changes than short-term weather changes. I see no reason to believe that is true. The IPCC says:

“Projecting changes in climate due to changes in greenhouse gases 50 years from now is a very different and much more easily solved problem than forecasting weather patterns just weeks from now. To put it another way, long-term variations brought about by changes in the composition of the atmosphere are much more predictable than individual weather events.” [from page 105, 2007 IPCC WG1, FAQ 1.2]

To me, that seems very doubtful. The problem with that theory is that climate models have to deal with many more variables than weather models. They have to model all of the variables that weather models contain, plus:

• Land biology

• Sea biology

• Ocean currents

• Ground freezing and thawing

• Changes in sea ice extent and area

• Aerosol changes

• Changes in solar intensity

• Average volcanic effects

• Snow accumulation, area, melt, and sublimation

• Effect of melt water pooling on ice

• Freezing and thawing of lakes

• Changes in oceanic salinity

• Changes in ice cap and glacier thickness and extent

• Changes in atmospheric trace gases

• Variations in soil moisture

• Alterations in land use/land cover

• Interactions between all of the above

• Mechanisms which tend to maximise the sum of work and entropy according to the Constructal Law.

How can a more complex situation be modeled more easily and accurately than a simpler situation? That makes no sense at all.

Next, the problem with weather models has been clearly identified as the fact that weather is chaotic. This means that no matter how well the model starts out, within a short time it will go off the rails. But the same is true for climate, it is also chaotic. Thus, there is no reason to assume that we can predict it any better than we can predict the weather. See Mandelbrot on the chaotic nature of climate.

Finally, climate models have done very poorly in the short-term. There has been no statistically significant warming in the last fifteen years. This was not predicted by a single climate model. People keep saying that the models do well in the long-term … but no one has ever identified when the changeover occurs. Are they unreliable up to twenty-five years and reliable thereafter? Fifty years?

Question 10. Are current climate theories capable of explaining the observations?

Again I say no. For example, the prevailing theory is that forcing is linearly related to climate, such that a change of X in forcing results in a change of Y in temperature. The size of this temperature change resulting from a given forcing is called the “climate sensitivity”. In 1980, based on early simple computer climate models, the temperature resulting from a change in forcing of 3.7 watts per square meter (W/m2) was estimated to result in a temperature change of between 1.5 and 4.5 degrees Celsius. See e.g. Green and Armstrong 2007.

Since 1980, there has been a huge increase in computing power. Since 1980, there has also been a huge increase in the size and complexity of computer models. Since 1980, thousands of man hours and billions of dollars have been thrown at this question. Despite these advances, the modern estimate of the climate sensitivity is almost unchanged from its 1980 value.

To me, this lack of any advance in accuracy indicates that we have an incorrect understanding of the forces governing the climate. Otherwise, our bigger, faster and better models would have narrowed the uncertainty of the climate sensitivity. But they have not.

Question 11. Is the science settled?

To this one I would answer no, no, a thousand times no. We are just a the beginning of the study of climate. New information and new theories and new forcings are put forward on a regular basis. See e.g. Lu. The data is poor, short, and full of holes. The signal is tiny and buried in a huge amount of noise. We don’t know if the earth has a thermostat. In short, the study of climate is an infant science which is still poorly understood.

Question 12. Is climate science a physical science?

Well, sort of. It is a very strange science, in that to my knowledge it is the only physical science whose object of study is not a thing, not a physical object or phenomenon, but an average. This is because climate is defined as the average of weather over a suitably long period of time (usually taken to be 30 years.) The implications of this are not widely appreciated. Inter alia, it means that statistics is one of the most important parts of climate science.

Unfortunately, a number of what I might call the “leading blights” of climate science, like Michael Mann with his HockeySchtick, have only the most rudimentary understanding of statistics. This initially got him into trouble in his foray into the area of paleoclimate statistics, trouble which he has only compounded by his later statistical errors.

Question 13. Is the current peer-review system inadequate, and if so, how can it be improved?

There are a number of problems with the current peer-review system, some of which are highlighted in the abuses of that system revealed in the CRU emails.

There are several easy changes we could make in peer review that would help things immensely:

1. Publish the names of the reviewers and their reviews along with the paper. The reviews are just as important as the paper, as they reveal the views of other scientists on the issues covered. This will stop the “stab in the back in the dark” kind of reviewing highlighted in the CRU emails.

2. Do not reveal the names of the authors to the reviewers. While some may be able to guess the names from various clues in the paper, the reviews should be “double-blind” (neither side knows the names of the others) until publication.

3. Do the reviewing online, in a password protected area. This will allow each reviewer to read, learn from, and discuss the reviews of others in real time. The process often takes way too long, and consists of monologues rather than a round-table discussion of the problems with the paper.

4. Include more reviewers. The CRU emails show that peer review is often just an “old-boys club”, with the reviewing done by two or three friends of the author. Each journal should allow a wide variety of scientists to comment on pending papers. This should include scientists from other disciplines. For example, climate science has suffered greatly from a lack of statisticians reviewing papers. As noted above, much of climate science is statistical analysis, yet on many papers either none or only the most cursory statistical review has been done. Also, engineers should be invited to review papers as well. Many theories would benefit from practical experience. Finally, “citizen scientists” such as myself should not be excluded from the process. The journals should solicit as wide a range of views on the subject as they can. This can only help the peer review process.

5. The journals must insist on the publication of data and computer codes. A verbal description of what mathematics has been done is totally inadequate. As we saw in the “HockeyStick”, what someone thinks or says they have done may not be what they actually did. Only an examination of the code can reveal that. Like my high science teacher used to say, “Show your work.”

Question 14. Regarding climate, what action (if any) should we take at this point?

I disagree with those who say that the “precautionary principle” means that we should act now. I detail my reasons for this assertion at “Climate Caution and Precaution”.  At that page I also list the type of actions that we should be taking, which are “no regrets” actions. These are actions which will have beneficial results whether or not the earth is warming.

So that is where I stand on the climate questions. I think that the earth actively maintains a preferred temperature. I think that man is having an effect on local climate in various places, but that globally man’s effect is swamped by the regulating action of clouds and thunderstorms. I think that the local effect is mainly through LU/LC changes and soot. I think that the climate regulating mechanism is much stronger than either of these forcings and is stronger than CO2 forcing. I think that at this point the actions we should take are “no regrets” actions.

Does that make me a “denier”? And if so, what am I denying?

Finally, I would like to invite Dr. Judith Curry in particular, and any other interested scientists, to publicly answer these same questions here on Watts Up With That. There has been far too much misunderstanding of everyone’s position on these important issues. A clear statement of what each of us thinks about the climate and the science will go a long way towards making the discussion both more focused and more pleasant, and perhaps it will tend to heal the well-earned distrust that many have of climate science.

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Bob Highland
March 31, 2010 8:12 pm

First class article, Willis. This is as good a piece on the position of what one might call the “enlightened skeptic” as I’ve ever seen. I’m sure that the majority of people who visit this site fall into that category, and the green faction do themselves no credit by characterising us as planetary rapists in the pay of big oil: nothing could be further from the truth.
Reading through your earlier article, the Thermostat Hypothesis again, (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/14/the-thermostat-hypothesis/) I think you’re right on the money, and I’m surprised that this theory hasn’t received more attention from those who are paid to do such research. The concept of the system as a heat engine, fuelled mainly by the sun’s interaction with the low latitudes and effectively thermostatically regulated by the dynamic feedbacks therein, makes so much more sense than an obsessive fixation with the concentration of a minor trace gas. Getting worked up about series of average temperature readings, which are actually averages of averages of averages, seems to me to be totally missing the point, because those of us who have travelled a bit know there’s absolutely nothing average about this planet and its climatic systems.
I was reminded of this as I removed a slab of ice from the bottom of my fridge last night – there may well actually be some heat in ice at -15C, but there ain’t much. Not as much as the heat in the sand on a Sydney beach at 41C.
It takes no great leap of the imagination to understand that most of the action that counts is in the tropics, plus a bit more out to say, 35 degrees N and S. In the mid-latitudes where insolation is weaker, temperatures are significantly determined on any given day by wind direction and speed – whether the air is coming from a warmer or cooler place – hence their greater daily variability. And the polar regions are to a large extent passive, their temperatures determined almost entirely by winds and currents bringing such “heat” as there is from elsewhere.
Given the massive power flows from the tropics combined with their consistent temperatures throughout the year (I notice from daily weather forecasts here that Darwin at 12 degrees S varies between 30C and 34C maximum all year round), it is clear that there is a self-regulating feedback mechanism at work, and the energy involved in the solar/hydrological cycle must totally swamp any piddling effect from CO2, if such a factor is operating at all in these humid conditions.
When I see those energy budget line drawings (Trenberth?) showing “average” solar radiation in and out, they make me laugh. They assume equilibrium, and I would dearly like to be shown the spot on earth where they even remotely apply. There is no such thing as equilibrium. That’s what weather is – the Earth’s remorseless search for equilibrium, which is impossible as long as the earth spins and there’s a single cloud in the sky. And there’s no such thing as average where weather is concerned – it’s a statistical whimsy, an abstraction that is convenient for basic arithmetic but pathetically inadequate for characterising the dynamics of the most complex system we know of.
Anyway, thanks again, Willis, for an excellent summary of your position.

pat
March 31, 2010 8:17 pm

willis –
this is the ‘scientific establishment’ – weep:
31 March: Institute of Physics: Response to report on the disclosure of climate data from the Climatic Research Unit
In response to the new report, Dr Robert Kirby-Harris, chief executive at the Institute of Physics, said: “We welcome the clear statement in this report that there is independent verification, through the use of other methodologies and other sources of data, of the results and conclusions of the Climatic Research Unit. This solid body of evidence allows us to be confident in the scientific consensus on climate change…
http://www.iop.org/News/mar10/news_41077.html
lord rees in australia for talks and lectures:
31 March: ABC Radio Australia: President of Royal Society perplexed by climate sceptics
MARTIN REES: Well, I am perplexed by it because of course, although not an expert, I have talked to a great deal of the experts and there is a general consensus that climate change is something which could have very worrying consequences if the world goes on burning fossil fuels at the present rate….
I mean obviously there are some people who are not experts who are sceptical about this but the analogy I’d give is if you’ve got some medical problem, you look on the Internet, you find a whole variety of remedies and ideas but if you’ve got any sense, you go for treatment to someone who has got real credentials; you don’t take account of the bloggersphere and I would say that those who are not experts should respond to the bloggersphere and the debate about climate change in the same way.
They should look for the people who have credentials and among them you would find a consensus that there is something we need to worry about. It is an unprecedented effect on the climate that carbon dioxide is being produced by fossil fuels…
TONY EASTLEY: The head of the UN’s climate change panel has accused politicians and prominent climate sceptics of a new form of persecution against scientists who work on global warming. Have you felt that heat?
MARTIN REES: I don’t think so. I think we want robust debate on how we respond to this. I think if you look towards the second half of the century we are going to have a combination of problems, shortages of water, problems with food production, all aggravated by climate change and growing population and I think we want to look further ahead.
And certainly it is my experience also and I am a university teacher, that it is the young people who are more aware of this, people under 30 will still be alive 50 years from now. So it doesn’t surprise me that the so-called sceptics tend to be among the older people and that the younger people have much deeper environmental concerns. So they, in my view, are the hope for the future.
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2010/s2860819.htm

pat
March 31, 2010 8:18 pm

31 March: Fox: Senators Demand Explanation of NASA’s Flawed Climate Data
Senators John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) and David Vitter (R-La.) have written a letter to NASA chief Charles Bolden demanding answers to questions surrounding newly uncovered irregularities in the space agency’s climate data…
Barrasso: “When the administration is trying to make an endangerment finding on carbon dioxide, I think it’s reckless to make such huge decisions affecting American jobs and the American economy based on data that may not be reliable, and seems to be contaminated.”
“I don’t think the facts bear out, at this point,” he said. “You wonder if it’s more about politics than it is about science.”
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/31/nasas-flawed-climate-data/
great questions, cbs! nonetheless Q2 is currently 41% against 27% for Q1 and 32% for Q3:
31 March: CBS: Take Our Poll: Do You Believe the First Findings of the Inquiry into “Climategate” Will End the Controversy?
Will the findings of the investigation in any way shape your views about the debate over global warming?
1. Confirms my trust in the scientists arguing that global warming is real
2. The jury is still out, pending further investigations into `Climategate.’
3. Has no impact on my views.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/31/tech/main6350638.shtml

Bulldust
March 31, 2010 8:19 pm

Thanks for the post Willis – you echo my general sentiments (the boring, rational & pragmatic ones) almost perfectly. Unfortunately the middle, rational ground is not exciting enough to capture the public attention, unlike catastrophic AGW “predictions” of doom.
Like you I am relatively faithful to the environment, and don’t get sucked in by false green projects. Heck I even have a bumper sticker to prove it, which reads:
“EARTH FIRST!
we’ll mine the other planets later…”
Sadly I don’t own a car to stick it on as I walk to work and live in an apartment … ironically my sceptical arse has a lower environmental footprint than most preaching greenies.
Anywho… keep up the good work!

Jaye
March 31, 2010 8:29 pm

Silent Spring? Ask a few million dead Africans about Silent Spring.

Les Johnson
March 31, 2010 8:31 pm

Willis: your
However, the fact that her early (and true) claims that DDT was being misapplied and overapplied by many farmers were used by unscrupulous politicians like William Ruckleshaus to make points by banning DDT based on inadequate and exaggerated claims is their fault, not hers.
I agree that DDT was overused, and misapplied. I also agree that Carson believed what she wrote. However, the science did not back what she believed. (perhaps like today’s climate scientists?) But she did have good intentions. Which of, course, are the raw material for the paving machine going to a particular destination.
Ruckleshaus, I agree, did it for political reasons. For this reason, yes, he is the greater villain in this play.
I divert attention from the main theme of your excellent essay, and for that I apologize.

Pieter F
March 31, 2010 8:36 pm

I disagree with a number of Eschenbach’s points.
The climate is not enduring “unexplained stability.” If one considered the Eemian Interglacial, the Late Holocene Interglacial is behaving much in the same way — rapid rise early, thousand-year periods of relative stability, and a general cooling trend until rapidly accelerating towards the next ice age.
He mentioned : “2 The earth has generally cooled over the last 12,000 years.” Actually, it has warmed over that period, rising out of the depths of the most severe ice age of the Pleistocene. The climate optimum occurred around 4,500 years ago and has generally cooled since then, with a number of notable warm periods in between such as the Roman Warm Period and the Medieval Warm Period.
I agree with much of the rest of it, especially the part about taking actions that have “no regrets.” There is a good starting point for all citizens. We can make positive changes to society without the dire consequences a knee-jerk reaction would cause.

M. Jeff
March 31, 2010 8:43 pm

Re: GaryT (20:02:33) who asks, … #14 – “I believe that the earth actively maintains a preferred temperature.” Would you please explain what that even means?
Seems that what Willis means when he states the following is that the earth is naturally buffered against various factors that would be expected to cause dramatic temperature changes: “Despite millennia-long volcanic eruptions, despite being struck by monstrous asteroids, despite changes in the position of the continents, as near as we can tell the average temperature of the earth has only varied by about plus or minus three percent in the last half-billion years. Over the last ten thousand years, the temperature has only varied by plus or minus one percent. Over the last 150 years, the average temperature has only varied by plus or minus 0.3%. For a system as complex and ever-changing as the climate, this is nothing short of astounding.”

George R. Langworth
March 31, 2010 8:47 pm

Willis, once again, just enjoyed this post so much. Will pass it along.

John Whitman
March 31, 2010 8:51 pm

Willis,
I admire that you say who you are (non-anonymous) and you openly tell us about yourself, experiences and personal ideas. You set a good example in that regard to establish identity and background in human discourse.
At the same time, one must keep a strict separation between professional discussion when it is needed from personal life. That requires discipline that is hard to achieve.
Here at these sceintific blogs, we are trying to do something that tests that professional discipline of separation from the personal.
Written communication uses many tools. Humor breaks tension. Parody can highlight the absurd. Satire can be priceless in illuminating just like a picture can be a 1000 words. Metaphor and similies and analogies have uses in explaining ideas more clearly. But, professional discourse must have very tight discipline.
So, I think we need a clear marker in any comments/posts that gives the readers a simple notification when some statement is meant professionally or it is reverting to some personal or communication tool that may not be per se a professional statement.
In your Preface Questions 1 and 2, you attempt to address the premises that need to be identified prior to discussion. Stating premises up front is a honest way to start a discussion. Thank you, it should be done more often.
Comment on Preface Question 1 – Environmentalism: Man is just as much part of nature as any other living entity is and just as an inanimate object is. We are the products of earths nature and a natural extension of it. Implying a non-natural basis for mankind’s existence on earth implies we are somehow intruders external to earth and nature. We are the earth. Not visitors or custodians.
I have found that virtually all the people I personally know have an almost instinctual attraction to “make-where-I-live-a-healty-place”. They associate with like minded individuals. Sounds healthy to me. : )
Caution: the movements of militant environmentalism / ecological activism have many philosophical bear traps. Intentionally so. Caution.
John

Joe
March 31, 2010 8:56 pm

Willis,
Just another part of what makes climate math so frustrating …
What science has done is take individual snapshots of data and created motion of trying to put these together.
Math can measure the radius of a circle and the circumference of a circle.
But they have no clue when you put it in motion the significant change that takes place. The mindset is still measuring at that point in time and not the constant adaptation that motion can instill at different points on the radius of that circle in motion. A whole new set of factors takes place and can change with speed changes.

March 31, 2010 8:58 pm

Bob Highland;
It takes no great leap of the imagination to understand that most of the action that counts is in the tropics, plus a bit more out to say, 35 degrees N and S>>
Agree with everything you said… but that. The fact that there is some sort of thermostat mechanism seems obvious (which isn’t proof) but assuming there is, no model is going to be right until the thermostat mechanism is understood. Then the question becomes, what can affect the thermostat mechanism and by how much?
But I remain convinced that it is the arctic regions that are the key, not the tropics. Consider that:
l) the earth gains heat at in the tropics, loses it at the poles
2) the tropics have been the most stable temperature wise, the poles have shown the most variability.
3) earth radiance varies with T^4. See 2) above.
4) the area of the earth we know the least about historicaly, temperature record, satellite data…. is the poles.
5) the major climate cycle is glaciation… which extends from the poles and then retreats.

John Baltutis
March 31, 2010 9:01 pm

Re:
31 March: CBS: Take Our Poll: Do You Believe the First Findings of the Inquiry into “Climategate” Will End the Controversy?
Will the findings of the investigation in any way shape your views about the debate over global warming?
1. Confirms my trust in the scientists arguing that global warming is real
2. The jury is still out, pending further investigations into `Climategate.’
3. Has no impact on my views.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/31/tech/main6350638.shtml
Lousy set of questions. We all know warming (and cooling) is real. These would have been much better:
1. Confirms my trust in the scientists arguing that global warming is solely caused by mankind’s generation of CO2 and that that the warming is ‘unprecedented’.
2. The jury is still out, pending further investigations into ‘Climategate’.
3. Confirms my distrust in the scientists arguing that global warming is solely caused by mankind’s generation of CO2 and that that the warming is ‘unprecedented’.

March 31, 2010 9:04 pm

…and on models.
I can build a model of a canon ball and pretty accurately predict its behaviour in response to a variety of conditions. I can build a model of a combine that accurately mimics how it works and how it interacts with swathed grain as it goes across a field.
But there is no way in you know what that I can throw the canon ball into the combine and predict the results with a model.
The physics of CO2 in isolation are well known. The physics of changing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere and modeling the results would make the canon ball in the combine problem look like tiddly winks.

Douglas Cohen
March 31, 2010 9:04 pm

In this article the author should also ask himself whether a global climate that is a few degrees Celsius warmer would be good or bad for humanity. Over the last several thousand years, historically speaking, the evidence is that a warmer climate is good for civilization, what with longer growing seasons, more arable land, etc. Note also that most of the problems with the latest IPCC report have been found in the sections describing how global warming would be bad, suggesting that it was very difficult to document and justify the “bad-for-us” point of view. Politicians like to frame policy questions so that the most doubtful ideas hide “underneath” the issues supposedly under discussion. The climate-change debate up to this point is a classic example of this. A little dispassionate thought shows that all the discussion on whether or not the earth is warming, and if so is it mostly natural or mostly man-made, is a (so far) successful distraction from the real question — exactly why should we be alarmed if the earth becomes a little warmer than it is now?

Mike Bryant
March 31, 2010 9:07 pm

Without reading any of the comments… This is a genuine call to understanding. Willis, thanks for this clear explanation of the questions that must be answered to move forward in our understanding of climate. I look forward to Judith’s responses, and also to the responses of all earth or climate scientists…
Thanks again,
Mike Bryant

Pink Pig
March 31, 2010 9:09 pm

(Sorry, I didn’t have the patience to read the other comments, so I don’t know whether this has been covered.)
I’m mainly curious about the first question. AFAIK, temperature scales are logarithmic, so rather than taking the ‘norm’ to be measured in Celsius, it should be taken in Kelvin. It’s a little hard to find a value for the global mean (why is it that most of the GIS website takes the global norm to be 0, and it is nearly impossible to find a value in a well-known temperature scale?), but IIRC it’s about 57 degrees Fahrenheit, or about 14 degrees Celsius. That would make it about 287 degrees Kelvin.
So where does the figure of 0.3% come from? 0.3% of 287 degrees Kelvin is about 0.861 degrees Kelvin, which is the same value in Celsius and amounts to less than 2 degrees Fahrenheit. And why should the past be limited to 10000 years for climatic purposes? Hmm?

March 31, 2010 9:11 pm

Very nice article.
The only thing I’d nitpick about is that, while I agree with your suggestions on peer review, I don’t think they’ll do much to fix climate science.
I’ll suggest to you the idea that peer review is nothing more than a traditional activity that is neither sufficient nor necessary to produce good science.
Instead, the fundamental key to good science is reproducibility. If claims cannot be reproduced, even in principle, by third parties, then the original activity may have been carried out by scientists, but it is not science. That is the shape of much of science, not just climate science, today.
Making changes to peer review does nothing one way or the other to make a paper’s results reproducible.

GaryT
March 31, 2010 9:11 pm

I don’t want to be placed on the shiite list here, but I don’t think Anthony should allow Willis free reign with his posts. Willis is, quite frankly, just all over the place. And I will concede that though climate is naturally all over the place, he doesn’t confirm that in any believable way with his guest posts. And jeez, I had given a lot of credence to Bulldust and Smokey. But now? I don’t know. Pamela is still cool, though, she even got snipped!
Geologist are the best climatologist. The rest are all just pseudo.

Pink Pig
March 31, 2010 9:14 pm

BTW, I think the first question to be answered should be: do we have any reason to believe that we have the tools needed to change the climate in a predictable way? If so, I’m all for using them, independently of global warming issues. If not, then it would clearly be too dangerous to fiddle around.
And why should it matter whether global warming is anthropogenic or not? Does this mean that non-anthropogenic warming would be no danger?

March 31, 2010 9:14 pm

AlexB (19:07:34) :
RE: Willis Eschenbach (18:35:36)
Totally agree. I must say I was very impressed with the honesty and understanding you conveyed by the use of the word belief. The difference between belief and theory is that the two words are spelt differently. It is impossible for humans to know natural laws. Science is simply made up of various degrees of belief. . .

Or rather, all statements about the world are theories (in the general sense), so in science “various degrees of belief” are possible. My point is that in religious (and pseudo-scientific) discourse ‘belief’ is not at all like ‘theory’; the religious maintain that their belief is absolute, so there are no degrees: either you believe, or you don’t.
It is not wrong for Willis to use ‘believe’ like ‘theorize’, or ‘conclude’, because he is speaking as a scientist. Nonetheless, the term leads to the kind of questions the pollsters like, which Willis (correctly) dismisses as ‘trick questions’, e.g., “Do you believe in global warming?”
In my view it is better to avoid the absolutist connotation that ‘believe’ and ‘belief’ carry with them.
/Mr Lynn

EJ
March 31, 2010 9:18 pm

Willis,
A perfect paper, sums up my take, better than I could of, on this subject as well.
Thanks for all your efforts!
EJ

pft
March 31, 2010 9:21 pm

Overall, a good article. Couple of observations though.
1. Science is not statistics. Statistics is a tool only, and a science left with mostly tools but little understanding is like an infant. Understanding and explaining the physical processes behind the science is the key to good science. Without that understanding, GIGO (garbage in garbage out) is the computer models output. No matter you use super quantum computing power, you will never get a correct answer.
2. The null hypothesis is an example of bad science through statistics. All hypothesis should be considered and tested, with periodic reviews of which is the most likely. It is not just A or B, but A, B, C, etc. Climate is too complex. Occams razaor says simplify by removing what you don’t need, Einstein said don’t remove that which you need, and I say when in doubt, keep it around until you understand it a bit better. Maybe you need it.
3. Climate science involves many disciplines, not just atmospheric science. To predict the fiture, one must understand the present and the past, so geologists, astronomers, solar physicists, oceanographers, chemists, physicists, biologists, agricultural scientists, petrologists, etc all have inputs into the understanding of climate past and present. We only have 30 years of good data, and even that is subject to uncertainties, estimates, and scarcity.
4. If you believe the current paradigm is incorrect, or better yet, simply question it, you are a skeptic. Science is about skepticism, religion is about beliefs.
5. Science by peer review does not work. Peer review does not and can not prove a hypothesis in a paper is correct or not. There are many cases where incorrect or disproven hypothesis, even fraud, have passed peer review. Peer reviewers have a lot at stake in protecting the old paradigm, since that is how they built their reputations. Einsteins greatest theories were not subject to peer review. If peer review existed in 1905, what are the odds a patent officer from Switzerland gets his views published.
6. Funding. Most research funding is provided by government. Until biases are removed in approving research grants, which is part of the peer review process, we will continue to get one sided climate science.

pat
March 31, 2010 9:32 pm

april fools…
read all FACTBOX:
1 April: Reuters: FACTBOX – Britain’s new corporate carbon trading scheme
Mandatory scheme comes into effect April 1, 2010 and affects an estimated 5,000 businesses with annual energy bills over 500,000 pounds ($753,600) as of 2008.
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-47367420100401
1 April: UK Tele: New carbon trading legislation confuses businesses
A compulsory carbon trading scheme for 5,000 UK businesses will launch today, amid widespread confusion about its complex rules and a bonanza of extra fees for environmental consultants.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/7542073/New-carbon-trading-legislation-confuses-businesses.html
1 April: Reuters: Costs, confusion greet new carbon trade scheme
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE62U60C20100331
1 April: UK Times: Carbon inspectors will force companies to reduce emissions
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/article7083623.ece
1 April: HeraldSun Australia: Australia backs carbon markets
Parliamentary secretary for international development assistance Bob McMullan told the advisory group on climate-change financing in London, convened by United Nations general secretary Ban Ki-moon, that carbon markets could provide the right economic incentives to cut forest carbon emissions…
Those at the London talks included billionaire financier George Soros and US President Barack Obama’s economic adviser Larry Summers
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/australia-backs-carbon-markets/story-e6frf7ko-1225848301809
BBC: Carbon emission reduction scheme comes into effect
A survey by NPower said almost half of firms did not know what was required. ..
Energy and Climate Change Secretary Ed Miliband : “It’s no longer simply about doing the right thing for the environment, it’s now a sure-fire financial investment,” he said. ..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8597902.stm