Open Thread Weekend

I’ve decided to step away from WUWT this weekend. Both my wife and I are sick with a cold. I’m very tired, and I need to do something else for awhile besides moderate squabbles; like work on my paper which keeps getting time taken away from it by the attention this blog requires.

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If you have something worth posting on the front page, flag a moderator.  Those that want to do guest posts are welcome to do so also. Again, flag a moderator for attention. Those that have author permission already, go for it.

I’ll resume posting if I feel up to it Sunday night.

In the meantime, talk quietly and politely amongst yourselves. Don’t make me come back here.

– Anthony

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David Ball
March 7, 2010 8:32 pm

I would like to ask if Anthony has ever done a post on the picture at the top of the home page? Could someone kindly point me in the right direction if he has. I happen to love storms , kinda in a “Lieutenant Dan” sorta way, if anyone else can relate. The fury is something that impresses me. That and scale.

March 7, 2010 8:36 pm

David Ball (20:22:51),
See? I told you!
In my Humpty Dumpty persona, “the better part of” means ≈10 days.

John Whitman
March 7, 2010 8:45 pm

””””Robert E. Phelan (19:45:58)””””’
”””MODERATOR: [OK. But we’re not a dating service ☺ ~dbs]””’
dbs,
thanks, got it
but a climatic dating service sounds pretty provocative
John
[Just razzing you in fun. Please take no offense, we’re here to help. ~dbs]

u.k.(us)
March 7, 2010 8:58 pm

David Ball (20:22:51) :
Mine lasted the better part of a fortnight, Smokey, …
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I know the dictionary definition of a “fortnight”,
but how did it come about???

March 7, 2010 9:23 pm

John Whitman (19:01:48) :
Effects of sunspots on the Earth [1878]
My purpose for the comment was to show that we have made no progress in the intervening 142 years. We are still pushing the same tired hypotheses with no resolution in sight.
About the sunspots and the solar cycle:
“It cannot be said that much progress has been made towards the disclosure of the cause, or causes, of the sun-spot cycle. Most thinkers on this difficult subject provide a quasi-explanation of the periodicity through certain assumed vicissitudes affecting internal processes. In all these theories, however, the course of transition is arbitrarily arranged to suit a period, which imposes itself as a fact peremptorily claiming admittance, while obstinately defying explanation”
Agnes M. Clerke, A Popular History of Astronomy During the Nineteenth Century, page 163, 4th edition, A. & C. Black, London, 1902.

Editor
March 7, 2010 10:00 pm

… we’re not a dating service ☺ ~dbs
Looks like John and I have met before and have friends in common. We’ll name the first one after you.

March 7, 2010 10:37 pm

to: Leif Svalgaard
I was at your web sight and could not find your ap chart I found this:
http://www.leif.org/research/TSI-SORCE-2008-now.png
do you track the aa ap , chart it there?
Thanks Tim L

March 7, 2010 11:02 pm

Luke Skywarmer (22:37:00) :
I was at your web site and could not find your ap chart
There is a lot more at
http://www.leif.org/research/files.htm
e.g.
Ap 1844-2009.pdf
Ap and Aa relation.pdf
Ap Bartels Rotation Plot.pdf
Ap-1844-2008.png
Ap-1844-2010.xls
Ap-Index-1932-now.png
Ap-index-1932-now.xls
Ap-index-monthly-means.txt
Ap-Monthly-Averages-1844-Now.png
Ap-since-1991.png

David Ball
March 7, 2010 11:17 pm

u.k.(us) (20:58:43) :Good question, and I pride myself on having the answer to many useless trivial tidbits, but I am at a loss on that one. Hopefully your response will add to my arsenal of miscellany. That is if the mods don’t snip me in the arsenal, ……..

March 8, 2010 12:08 am

Tx Leif,
http://www.leif.org/research/Ap-Index-1932-now.png
thats the one , does look like 1900, or cycle # 13-14

March 8, 2010 6:54 am

Richard E Phelan: I wouldn’t be alarmed by the response you got from your representative. Having worked in communications offices for politicians, and one premier here in Canada, what you got was a standard answer for a first-time writer. Here’s how these offices work:
Every letter that comes in is sorted and classified by the topic or topics. About 99% will go to the standard response team, while those sensitive or from high profile people are forwarded on to the representative to answer personally.
The standard letter is taken by a writer who then “plugs” in the appropriate paragraph or paragraphs, which have been pre-written in several versions to suit the tone and apparent demeanour of the letter’s author.
I suggest that your wife write again criticizing the response. You will get another letter with more detailed paragraphs specifically written to further defend the representative’s stance. When your wife writes AGAIN, chances are the staff will have taken notice and either send her letter up the chain or you will get a short response along the lines of “thank you for sharing your opinion with me. I will take in into consideration.” It never hurts to keep writing. Make sure that each successive letter goes into more detail and is not a general rant. Who knows, you may even get an actual letter from your rep.

roger
March 8, 2010 8:57 am

Thanks for that Steve, I’ll set the missus on it as it was she who asked. Meanwhile I can return to enjoying the analysis of today’s subjects.
I never expected to be eating tomatoes recommended on a climate blog by guys in Oregon and Canada. What an amazing source of knowledge this site is!
I suppose Gavin and his cohorts are far too serious to have gardening references, but if they did it would have to be the cultivation of cacti and associated succulents.

Pete
March 8, 2010 12:16 pm

I thought this was great.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/healthy-living/virginia-ironsides-dilemmas-our-daughter-is-being-indoctrinated-about-global-warming-1917721.html
Dear Virginia,
Our daughter is only seven, but it appears that she’s being indoctrinated about global warming at school.
Every day when she gets home she’s got some new scare story and is always insisting we turn off the lights or turn the heating down. She’s also got very picky about food and where it comes from. We wouldn’t mind, but it seems to be making not just our lives a misery, but hers, too. What can we do?
Yours sincerely, Monica
Before you start writing angry letters to the school governors, first find out what, exactly, is going on at school. It may be that your daughter’s just going through a fearful stage in her life for some reason, and pinning all her anxieties on global warming. In which case, it would be a good idea to have a chat with her teacher to ask if she could perhaps play down the scare stories, or at least put both sides of the question if, indeed, she has to go into the subject at all.
It might be worth, too, contacting other parents and finding out what their children are feeling. If you can get some other families on your side, you’ll carry far more weight.
If it turns out, of course, that your daughter’s got some crazed global warming evangelist in charge of her class, who’s constantly inspiring terror by warning of the dire consequences of putting used tissues or Sellotape into the recycling bin, you’d certainly be justified in going to the head and demanding that he or she has a word with the teacher and tells him or her to tone it down. Or at least make clear that it is only one view, and that not everyone shares it.
Because that’s the truth. Global warming is like God. Some people believe in it fervently. Other people don’t. Indeed, people are believing it less and less – only 57 per cent of Americans believe it – and surely most intelligent people must admit that they just don’t know. And even if it is true, there may be ways we can adapt to it successfully.
You must sit your daughter down and tell her that there certainly isn’t a consensus of global warming. Tell her there’ve always been scare stories, most of which have come to nothing. If you yourself do believe in it, but aren’t too bothered, then find a friend who can argue the case against it fluently and get him or her to put the case forcefully.

Ron
March 8, 2010 8:36 pm

Re: Children and global warming alarmism. Teachers in fact project their world view onto their students at every opportunity. There is nothing you can do about it except to give your child hugs and remind them that you love them and that you will protect them. Contrary to what is normally thought, childhood can be a dark and fearful time, and a teacher or parent can inadvertently add to those fears. My own nightmares concerned nuclear holocaust and in retrospect I wish my parents had been less avid followers of the “news”. The Cuban Missile Crisis precipitated a 10 year period in my life where sleep often brought black and vile nightmares about nuclear death. You cannot protect children from information but was it neccessary to be told of flesh melting from bones etc.etc. Many global warming scenarios are tailor-made for children; drowning animals, starving children, uncontrollable weather events and so on. The modern “bogy man” has more power than anything found in Grimms.

Severian
March 10, 2010 4:56 am

Anthony, damn you, I think I caught your cold…by teleconnection apparently.

Anu
March 13, 2010 6:03 pm

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March 13, 2010 7:00 pm

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