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There are some interesting developments in British press about the IPCC and Pachauri, both on the extraordinary financial conflicts of interest in the IPCC process.
In the UK Telegraph, Richard North of the EU Referendum and Christopher Booker strongly suggest IPCC boss Rajendra Pachauri has earned what they claim are vast sums of money from his connection to the trade in carbon credits. North writes:
In addition to his paid post as Director-General of TERI, Pachauri has taken on over twenty additional posts since becoming chairman of the IPCC – another of his paid posts.
From the Telegraph:
What has also almost entirely escaped attention, however, is how Dr Pachauri has established an astonishing worldwide portfolio of business interests with bodies which have been investing billions of dollars in organisations dependent on the IPCC’s policy recommendations.
These outfits include banks, oil and energy companies and investment funds heavily involved in ‘carbon trading’ and ‘sustainable technologies’, which together make up the fastest-growing commodity market in the world, estimated soon to be worth trillions of dollars a year.
Pachauri’s really not happy about this, and has blasted the article in The Indian Express and The Times of India.
I think Pachauri’s train might be off the rails though, since he’s claiming:
The accusations, published in the The Sunday Telegraph, were coming from the same group of people who had tried unsuccessfully to discredit the IPCC and the “irrefutable science” on climate change by hacking personal emails of some scientists a few weeks ago, Pachauri said.
Gosh, accusing journalists now of being the Climatgate hackers? Desperate are we?
About as desperate as Mann playing the Palin card.
Interesting perspective from an Indian blogger …
http://libertynewscentral.blogspot.com/2009/12/pachauri-eating-away-at-civilization.html
His site is worth a general look as well – he comments on the Indian media reaction to climategate, and much else.
I’ve done a review of his blog … adding some comments …
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/12/eating-away-at-civilisation.html
Pachauri, it seems, is a man of many talents. He is also a star columnist for the Hindustan Times … which is just about to link with the Washington Post.
If you want to see what Lord Monckton says about this you can got to this video http://fora.tv/2009/12/17/FORAtv_Exclusive_Interview_with_Lord_Monckton_at_COP15#fullprogram and watch video #5, the last 6 mins 15 secs where he talkks about fraud and Pachauri.
KeithGuy (09:47:57) :
I looked up “Gate”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gate
Apart from “Yett” and “Port” I saw the definitive “gate”, if you add the “N”.
Ly(n)ch Gate
Patchauri probably thinks he deserves a Triumphal Arch, but it ain’t this. http://www.mumbainet.com/travel/gateway.htm
I blogged the Telegraph story yesterday. It is making the rounds.
We find out that the health care bill is for the insurance and pharma industries benefit and that there are profiteers besides Al Gore in the Climate Control Industry.
From what I have seen in my comments it is really hurting the believers. Every one knows Al Gore is a money grubbing buffoon. But the head of the IPCC? Is nothing sacred?
Pachauri is discussed by Lord Monckton in this video http://fora.tv/2009/12/17/FORAtv_Exclusive_Interview_with_Lord_Monckton_at_COP15#fullprogram. Look at video #5 which is the last 6 min 15 secs of rhe whole interview. Actually the whole interview is interesting but the last bit is pertinent to this thread.
Cute Google-ad – “Offset your carbon emissions. (We’ll show you how)”, on an image of jet with contrail and big red X on contrail …”
I thought contrails from aircraft were condensation of water vapor. By condensing water vapor, aren’t aircraft getting rid of a major greenhouse gas – water vapor?? 😉
These ads appeal to the ‘smoke is pollution’ crowd, I guess.
One must wonder, does the UN/IPCC have any kind of ethics guidelines for employees?? How long would a U.S. Politician with similar business interests last? Or any politician in any but the most bought and paid for country? True fiction is unbelievable!
“Welcome to the IPCC – your staff includes 31 PR Specialists, 2 scientists, and 7 investment advisers. Kindly deposit your UNICEF donation in the collection plate.”
Come on, this is really not fair, all he is doing, just like the fragrant Al Gore, his putting his money where his mouth his. Investing in technologies which he believes will save the whole wide world. If he makes money out of it there is no conflict of interest it is not as if he is a public servant?
See simple Bob’s your uncle!
Central London been snowing for two hours, slush on the ground.
Warwickshire to have 10 cms of snow tonight.
Channel trains stuffed because of the cold weather.
There we are its just weather not climate?
OT- Looks like sunspots galore this morning.
Richard North at EuReferendum is really getting stuck in:
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/12/slow-burn.html
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/12/eating-away-at-civilisation.html
Taking a line from American history… ☺ We can only pray … ☺ ☺
http://photoshare.shaw.ca/image/2/d/8/63987/pachaurijail-0.jpg
A perfect roomy for Al Baby.
Innocent Pachauri Climate Caper
The gravy train is still on the tracks.
They have a railway engineer to keep it there.
It’s Global Temperature Homogenization.
Warmer air goes to the poles.
Cooler air goes to the equator.
A zero-sum game.
A temperature sensor pointed at earth from space
would give the “homogenized” global answer, definitively.
The current international efforts with carbon are foolly. (folly + foolish)
Check out Gordon Browns quote…
The UN’s consensual method of negotiation, which requires all 192 countries to reach agreement, needs to be reformed to ensure that the will of the majority prevails, he feels.
The Prime Minister will say: “Never again should we face the deadlock that threatened to pull down those talks. Never again should we let a global deal to move towards a greener future be held to ransom by only a handful of countries. One of the frustrations for me was the lack of a global body with the sole responsibility for environmental stewardship.
“I believe that in 2010 we will need to look at reforming our international institutions to meet the common challenges we face as a global community.” The summit failed to produce a political agreement among all the countries. Delegates instead passed a motion on Saturday “taking note” of an accord drawn up the night before by five countries: the US, China, India, Brazil and South Africa.
Despite being the first world leader to join the summit, Mr Brown was excluded from the key meeting where the compromise was decided.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6963482.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=3392178
Oh. Yeah. I call it “The Climate Cartel”.
Does he sell indulgences too? Interestingly the wikipedia entry on indulgences hasn’t been obliterated (yet): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence
OT: Is is possible that the CRU team decided to ship out the climategate emails themselves? This would enable them to circle the wagons, claim they were the victims, etc. and generally mitigate the embarrassment that was about to come out any way through the investigation of honest scientists and FOI requests.
Another vid worth watching http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2009/dec/21/climate-scepticism-jesse-ventura
@ur momisugly Richard Nehring (09:52:34) :
‘It’s not a matter of putting their money where their mouth is; it’s a matter of putting their mouth where their money is!’
Naww – its a matter of putting our money where their mouth is.
Jack in Oregon (10:14:24) :
Check out Gordon Browns quote . . .
“I believe that in 2010 we will need to look at reforming our international institutions.”
Anyone who has followed British politics for the last few years knows that Gordon does not do democracy. Fortunately for the world, Gordon can’t stamp all over foreign leaders the way he has stamped over the people of Britain – but God knows he tried!
…Gordon Browns quote . . .
“I believe that in 2010 we will need to look at reforming our international institutions.”
Question: Who elected Gordon Brown?
Richard Nehring (09:52:34) :
“It’s not a matter of putting their money where their mouth is; it’s a matter of putting their mouth where their money is!”
No doubt true, but I believe Tim’s comment was meant as an allusion to Maurice Strong’s reply to a similar question on the Fox documentary. When the interviewer suggested that as Strong was a director of the Chicago Exchange, he stood to make a lot of money on emissions trading. His reply was as brilliant as it was mendacious – he was just putting his money where his mouth is.
Pachauri on the other hand, came out swinging, which makes him seem like someone with something to hide. Al Gore has taken the evasive approach – Me have something to gain? We will all be gainers.
Now however, Strong’s answer has redefined the question. Look for Al Gore and Pachauri to adopt the same strategy. They’re all taking enormous risks to save the planet.
This is the part that really caught my attention…
“…needs to be reformed to ensure that the will of the majority prevails…”
That would put China and India in charge of the world…
I was surprised by the comment that he was not in the primary room, during these negotiations…
“Despite being the first world leader to join the summit, Mr Brown was excluded from the key meeting where the compromise was decided.”
It has been fascinating to watch EUreferendum unravel the political and financial infrastructure of the Global warming movement.
It started a few weeks ago when it was noticed by Richard that the steel works at Redcar in the UK was being closed down by TATA and Indian company that had purchased the British Steel industry only a few years earlier. Following the money Richard worked out that closing the British factories and opening new ones in India was subsidised by cashing in on Carbon Credits – about a billion dollars. TATA seemed to have links to Pachauri.
For years Richard North and Chris Booker have been digging away at the under-reported corruption and incompetence that festers at heart of the EU, so it is unsurprising that they are now getting into the rotten political heart of the UN and the IPCC. At EUReferendum they have a unique expertise for ferreting out how the dirty politics and dirty money works. Their work is at the other end of the scale to the magnificent work you carry out on this weblog (which is to dissect and reconstruct the (dirty) data).
In a way your two sites are a perfect match for each other, this story about the corruption at the top of the Copenhagen Conference is the missing element in the climategate scandal. When you put CRUgate and IPCCgate together you are really hitting AGW hysteria hard.
I think it is congratulations all round