Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
This replaced the previous sticky, and I have this comment about the Economist. Bad form and unprofessional to use the word “denialists”. For WUWT readers who wish to complain: letters@economist.com or use their online form here. – Anthony
AN OPEN LETTER TO THE ECONOMIST
On Dec 11th, the Economist published an unsigned article attacking both me and my work. This open letter is my reply.
TO: The Person Unwilling to Sign Their Economist Article
Dear Sir or Madam;
Recently, you wrote a scathing article about me in the Economist discussing my post called The Smoking Gun At Darwin Zero. Some of it was deserved, but most was undeserved and false. The URL for your unprinicpled attack is http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2009/12/trust_scientists … trust_scientists? Trust_scientists?? Have you read the CRU emails?
But I digress … you begin by quoting from the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, viz:
A change in the type of thermometer shelter used at many Australian observation sites in the early 20th century resulted in a sudden drop in recorded temperatures which is entirely spurious. It is for this reason that these early data are currently not used for monitoring climate change. Other common changes at Australian sites over time include location moves, construction of buildings or growth of vegetation around the observation site and, more recently, the introduction of Automatic Weather Stations.
The impacts of these changes on the data are often comparable in size to real climate variations, so they need to be removed before long-term trends are investigated.
While this is true, it doesn’t apply. None of the GHCN adjustments are from any of those sources. This is because the GHCN does not adjust for location moves. Nor does it adjust for construction of buildings, nor for any of the other items listed. The GHCN uses none of those to make its adjustments. So all of that is totally meaningless.
Next, you say the “explanation for the dramatic change in 1941 is simple”:
As previously advised, the main temperature station moved to the radar station at the newly built Darwin airport in January 1941. The temperature station had previously been at the Darwin Post Office in the middle of the CBD, on the cliff above the port. Thus, there is a likely factor of removal of a slight urban heat island effect from 1941 onwards. However, the main factor appears to be a change in screening. The new station located at Darwin airport from January 1941 used a standard Stevenson screen. However, the previous station at Darwin PO did not have a Stevenson screen. Instead, the instrument was mounted on a horizontal enclosure without a back or sides. The postmaster had to move it during the day so that the direct tropical sun didn’t strike it! Obviously, if he forgot or was too busy, the temperature readings were a hell of a lot hotter than it really was.
This might make sense if there were any “dramatic change in 1941”. But as I clearly stated in my article, <b>there is no such dramatic change</b>. The drop in temperature was gradual and lasted from 1936 to 1940. The change from 1940 to 1941 was quite average. So that claim of yours is nonsense as well. In any case, the change in screening did not coincide with the 1941 move. In my article I cited a reference to a picture of a Stevenson Screen in use in Darwin at the turn of the century. Perhaps you didn’t bother to read that.
So, to sum up your first arguments, changes in the Stevenson Screens and other local conditions cannot be the explanation for any of the GHCN adjustments because 1) the GHCN doesn’t use local conditions to make adjustments and 2) the timing of the screen change is wrong. In addition, there was no “dramatic change in 1941”.Next, you point out two actual mistakes I did make.
First, in my proofreading I did not catch that I that I had written “the 1941 adjustment” when I meant the 1930 adjustment. That should have been obvious to me, because there is no 1941 GHCN adjustment. My bad.
Second, I had said that the Darwin temperature data couldn’t have been adjusted by using the GHCN method. This method requires five neighboring stations to which Darwin can be compared. Why couldn’t the GHCN method be used? I said it was because in the earlier time periods like the 1930s, there were no such stations covering that time period within 500 km of Darwin. I was wrong, it fact there is one such station.
Neither of these errors of mine affect my point, which is that there are not enough neighboring stations to adjust Darwin using the main GHCN method. The GHCN folks mention this possibility, saying:
Also, not all stations could be adjusted. Remote stations for which we could not produce an adequate reference series (the correlation between first-difference station time series and its reference time series must be 0.80 or greater) were not adjusted. The homogeneity-adjusted version of GHCN includes only those stations that were deemed homogeneous and those stations we could reliably adjust to make them homogeneous.
Unfortunately, they adjusted Darwin anyway. Consider the GHCN adjustment in 1920. To find five stations around Darwin covering 1920, you have to go out 1,250 km. Nor is there any guarantee that those stations will be suitable. You need to have five stations with an 80% correlation with the Darwin record … I wish you the best of luck finding those five stations.
So while my statement about stations nearer than Daly Waters was wrong as you point out (there is one nearer station that covers the 1930 adjustment), my point was correct – there are not enough neighboring stations to adjust Darwin using the GHCN method. The first GHCN adjustment to Darwin was a single year adjustment in 1901. To get five “neighboring” stations for that adjustment, you have to go out 1728 km. You fail to deal with that issue at all. Instead, you say:
“So is it reasonable, if the GHCN is using complex statistical tools to adjust the temperature readings at Darwin based on surrounding stations, that they might come up with the figures they came up with? Sure. No. Yes. I have no idea. And neither does Mr Eschenbach. Because in order to judge that, you would have to have a graduate-level understanding of statistical modeling. … I don’t understand that formula. I don’t have the math for it.”
“Surrounding stations”? We’re talking about stations a thousand km away and more, not surrounding stations.
And while I am sorry to hear of the lacunae in your math education, please don’t make the foolish assumption that others are similarly limited. I have no problem with the GHCN math. If you truly have no idea on the question as you say … then why are you excoriating my ideas on the question?
Nor is it inherently a complex question. The question is, should temperatures more than a thousand km away from Darwin be used to arbitrarily adjust Darwin’s temperature by a huge amount? You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out.
Next, as an aside you make the scurrilously false statement that I said that claims of damage due to sea level rise in Tuvalu “stemmed from attempts by locals to blame subsidence problems on the developed world, and cash in on it”. I said no such thing nor do I believe it. The claims stemmed from misguided environmentalists.
Next, you say “He makes it sound as if he’s just happened to stumble across this one site whilst perusing a debate over climate change in northern Australia. But as his link to that conversation from 2000 makes clear, Mr Eschenbach is already aware that climate change denialists have been trumpeting the apparent anomalies at Darwin for nine years.” BZZZZT, poor understanding of the implications of chronology. I looked up the conversation after I stumbled across Darwin. How dare you accuse me of lying? As I said, I went to AIS to see if what Professor Karlen had said was true. I called up a list of all of the stations in Australia that covered 1900-2000. Darwin was the first on the list, so that’s the one I looked at. Try it and see. You accusation is both wrong and totally unfounded.
“[Climate change denialists] do so because of that errant data at Darwin from before 1941, which makes it look as though there was a cooling trend there. The fact that climate-change researchers have to do a particularly strong correction on the data at Darwin, because they moved their dang instruments from the downtown post office to the airport, makes Darwin a perfect place to look for support if you want to claim that climate-change scientists are cooking the data.”
While a correction in Darwin is perhaps necessary, it is cannot be because they “moved their dang instruments” in January of 1941. LOOK AT THE DATA. There is no big change in January of 1941. It occurred gradually over the previous five years. So your theory falls apart upon the simplest examination of the facts.
Next you say: “Average guys with websites can do a lot of amazing things. One thing they cannot do is reveal statistical manipulation in climate-change studies that require a PhD in a related field to understand.”
Your understanding of statistics is as poor as your understanding of chronology. The statistics used by GHCN are average college level tools. You are dazzled by the fact that you don’t understand them, so you make the incredibly foolish assumption that no one without “a PhD in a related field” can understand them either. Some of us actually paid attention in class, you know.
Finally, you use your closing arguments to cheerlead for peer review. Curiously, I agree with you in theory … but the peer review system in climate science is badly broken. First, as the CRU emails clearly show, it has been subjected to enormous “old-boy” pressures to pass through bad studies without a second glance, and to deny opposing papers a fair hearing. How do you think we got the Hockeystick and its cousins? Here’s Phil Jones from the emails, talking about keeping peer-reviewed papers out of the IPCC report:
I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow – even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!
And you give your article the URL “trust_scientists”???
Second, the peer-review system is ripe for abuse. This is because the reviewers often know who the author is, while the reviewers (like you) hide in anonymity. This invites malfeasance. The system needs to be changed so that after the review, the [authors] sign their names to the paper as well as reviewers. At present, we have no way of knowing whether the paper was seriously reviewed by inquiring scientists, or simply passed through by the authors friends.
So I, like you, support peer review. I just want a peer review system that works. It must be double blind during the review period, with neither the reviewers nor the author knowing the others’ names. And the reviewers should reveal their names at the end, so that we know it wasn’t just the author’s best mates doing the author a favor.
Since we have an easily manipulated system instead of a real peer review system, I opt for public peer review by putting my work on the web. This lets anyone, even anonymous innumerates like yourself, register your objections.
Finally, the Economist did not contact me before publishing an article full of false accusations, incorrect assumptions and wrong statements … looks like peer review is not the only system in trouble here. I thought journalists were under an obligation to check their facts before making accusations …
Willis Eschenbach
Alan S. Blue (17:41:33) :
Thanks, I sort of expected that to be the case, I’ve been reading here and other places for about a year or so and never read it, so it has just been fermenting in my brain until I had to ask.
JER0ME (17:28:48) :
yonason (15:23:02) :
LOL! Ooops, that WAS a typo. Yes, it was supposed to be “F,” not “C.” Thanks for catching that.
Look for Cop15 to come down to little more than transferring cash. The agreement will involve the US shifting enormous amounts of money to China and India among others. The EU will also be ponying up an enormous amount of cash. This is no more than a trade fair. India and China will agree to “cuts” in return for transfer payments.
It’s already done.
Make sure you’re comparing the same things. The BOM site has separate charts for mean maximum and mean minimum temperatures. The GISS site is graphing mean temperature, which I take to be the average of the maximum and minimum.
I took the two sets of data from the BOM site, averaged the annual figures and plotted a graph. It matched to the GISS graph pretty well for most of it, but for the last decade or so, the GISS data varied slightly. Most of the time it was less than the BOM data. That could be the quick and dirty way I did the calculation, though.
Alan S. Blue (17:41:33) :
The actual completely raw readings from the observer’s forms have enough information to do the corrections you mention – which happen immediately and are part of the “raw” records before they are entered into the databases.
This just seems a little strange, is there a link to the method where the raw “raw” data becomes “raw” data. Thanks
L Gardy LaRoche (09:59:25) :
I have put one up here .
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Hoaxenhagen!
best post i have ever read anthony well done
brought tears to my eyes
UN, Human role Climate Change not in doubt!
Ban Ki Moon must be an idiot to think that.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N08198995.htm
Graeme W (18:30:40) :
I did the average max/min and I also saw that GISS was less than BOM. The really odd thing to do is plot JunBOM vs JunGISS and compare with DecBOM vs DecGISS
June gives me 0.8578x + 1.1415 and Dec gives me 0.6259x + 10.712.
I swear that the winter months have a different processing than the summer ones.
The GISS has about twice the temperature increase as the BOM; 0.0149x vs. 0.0086x.
Very very odd.
I’m now watching this thread as well, and will gladly answer questions. The question about humidity is a very good one. Basically, heat in the air exists in two forms — sensible and latent.
Sensible is heat we can sense. Latent is energy in the water vapor, which is released when it condenses.
I know of no one who has allowed for this in a global temperature database. It’s tricky because the records are much scarcer than temperature records.
This is another reason why atmospheric temps are a terrible measure of the state of the system. Ocean temps would be better … but we have what we have.
w.
Jack in Oregon (11:03:34) :
Already started, as of last night. Email me at willis [at] surfacetemps.org if you want to volunteer.
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Gore Effect
weather by seablogger
Though there are disagreements, many models suggest polar easterlies will continue to move frigid air-masses from Greenland and the high Arctic down the middle of North America for weeks to come. As these Arctic impulses phase with a moist southern jet, they could cause more major winter storms for much of the US, especially the Midwest and Northeast.
Meanwhile a similar pattern is expected to settle into Europe during the next few weeks. Polar easterlies could bring Siberian air as far west as Spain, and the models of pre-Christmas snow cover for the continent are showing some remarkable depths. Nearly all of Europe could see a white Christmas.
East Asia has already experienced polar bouts, with unprecedented early snows in Beijing last month. The entire northern hemisphere is caught in atmospheric upheaval. Yesterday a low in the North Atlantic dug to a central pressure of 944 mb — equivalent to a major hurricane, but covering a much larger area. A similar North Pacific storm has generated the biggest swell in 11 years for Hawaii.
All in all, the world is seeing a real weather crisis — the worst case of Gore effect yet.
http://www.seablogger.com/?p=18283&cpage=1#comment-164275
Willis Eschenbach (19:17:39) :
Jack in Oregon (11:03:34) :
“Since we can not trust the data anymore, and we cant trust the custodians of the data, lets build an open source, station by station database of the RAW daily data.”
This gives me a creepy sick feeling.
Thanks for your post Willis, very well done.
“Willis Eschenbach (19:17:39) :
Already started, as of last night. Email me at willis [at] surfacetemps.org if you want to volunteer.
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I think I’d like to volunteer also for the Sydney, Australia region, and help out as much as I can. I will e-mail you Willis.
Cheers.
Mr. Willis Eschenbach
I want to let you know I thank you for putting in the time and effort to get the actual temps from Darwin and show how the data has been changed.
Have you contacted the Group that put in the changes to learn why they did this?
If you go on RealClimate, Gavin Schmidt does give some explanations. When I complained about temperature adjustments he sent me to a link explaining why they did this in the U.S. I did not find the reasons valid and it does not seem there are valid reasons for what you find.
But when I read RealClimate and the posts it does not seem like the players are involved in a deliberate hoax. From my own experience on this web page, it seems everyone is quite serious and actually afraid of the runaway Greenhouse that will kill off most species currently alive.
Hysteria (10:15:01)
See the answer on the first post.
Willis Eschenbach (19:16:09)
Turboblocke (04:33:51)
Someone else asked why start with Darwin? I guess all the ‘flat earther’ comments (including from our Dear Leader Macavity) made it a natural.
Really excellent work by Willis Eschenbach, thank you.
Willis Eschenbach (18:51:25)
Sorry to add to your workload but some of the most important charts flow off the righ side of the page in the pdf that I downloaded.
Have a look at the Hadley CRU temperature data just released by the UK met office.
href=”http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/science/monitoring/subsets.html”>CRUTemps Look in folder 94 for the Darwin temperatures. Very interesting!
The 3 stations in north Australia being Darwin, Alice Springs, and “Yamba”. I just checked BOM file of weather stations in operation more than 50 years and found that Yamba (Pilot Station) at 29.4333 S 153.36 E started operating in 1944.
That’s right . 1944.
So they really only have 2 stations. Why do they lie?
There are many sites that have been settled for 150 years- do they have no records from them? Eg Cloncurry recorded Australia’s highest ever temperature in 1889. It would be 2000 km closer than Yamba to Darwin.
I would gladly help with auditing Australia- central coastal Queensland.
a small victory perhaps! cap’n’tax may be off the menu:
UK Telegraph: Copenhagen climate summit: UN pleads for investment deals to be done
The United Nations executive secretary has begged companies to “do some deals” behind the scenes at the Copenhagen climate change conference to encourage market investment, as the US leaned towards more regulation on industry emissions
Speaking about the US plans, Mr de Boer said: “We all know taxes and regulation tend to be a lot less efficient and much more expensive than market based approaches.”
“Please please, please, if you are a business man, do a deal in Copenhagen and please, please, please make it market-based. Because if we fail to get a market-based agreement, we will be forced to turn to tax and regulation.”
However, his defence of market-based solutions to funding climate change measures came as the UN admitted its administration of global carbon offsetting, the Clean Development Mechanism, had lost its way.
The UN, which unveiled an independent review of the system by consultants McKinsey, said they needed to get the system “back to its original intent” and acknowledged it suffered long delays, poor documentation and staff shortages.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6762729/Copenhagen-climate-summit-UN-pleads-for-investment-deals-to-be-done.html
I am seeing this correction more and more.
It starts as level, followed by a small drop and then level again, then a sharp rise. When I wrote the bit on the AGW Virus I did not expect that it would actually appear to be so prevalent world-wide. Seriously, many sites appear to have applied the same trick so that their corrections would all be in line with each other. It is a virus that has infected climate science.
The question in my mind is how much of climate science, and how many research papers can actually be traced back to those three lines of code.
Anthropogenic Global Warming Virus Alert.
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s5i64103
I’m sorry Willis but I must question your plots
I have plotted raw GHCN Raw Giss Homogenised GISS and they do not compare with yours at all. Will you please show the source of your (faulty?) data.
Here are my sources
Giss: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/gistemp_station.py?id=501941200004&data_set=1&num_neighbors=1
ghcn: ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/v2/v2.mean.Z
Here are my plots:
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9677/darwingissghcn.png
I suppose giss or ghcn may have adjusted their figures but this seems unlikely
Note that my plot shows 2 discontinuities 1940 and 1995. If these are removed then a warming will be shown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comments please
John Simpson (20:34:10) :
Yes, it is interesting. On the other thread, I put up this plot my own plot of the CRU data as posted, vs the GISS data, raw. In the overlap interval, they superimpose almost exactly. There’s no evidence of big adjustment there. Nor is there with GISS – from this GISS site here are the raw and homogeneity-adjusted plots. There’s no evidence that GISS or CRU adjustments make any big change. So the interesting question is, what’s different about GHCN/NOAA? Something to do with the fact that it’s a subset of the Darwin data?
[REPLY – To the best of my knowledge, there IS no “raw” NASA/GISS data. GISS starts with already-adjusted NOAA/NCDC/HCN data, “unadjusts” it and “redjusts” the shattered remains. So if GISS “raw” data looks like CRU adjusted data, that would come as no surprise. ~ Evan]
You know what is funny?
In McIntyre’s Appeal of his FOI rejection, He asked CRU if they could at least release the information that was NON Confidential.
On Nov 13th in rejecting this appeal CRU argued that they could no segregate confidential data from non confidential data. It would take too long.
QUOTE:
Regulation 12(11) requires that we provide as much requested information as is possible outside the coverage of any applicable exception. After consultation with Phil Jones and other relevant staff in regards the nature and composition of the requested dataset, I have concluded that the data is organised in such a way as to make it extremely difficult and time-consuming to segregate the data in the manner that you suggest and would indeed, in our view, amount to an unreasonable diversion of resources from the provision of services for which we, as an institution, are mandated. Further, we would maintain that where no such segregation has, or will occur, we should not release any of the data for fear of breaching such restrictions as do exist.
OH REALLLLY. Let’s see on November 13th prior to the leak it was too time consuming to segregate the data for Steve McIntyre.. But after Nov 19th when they get hit with a crushing PR blow, they suddenly find the time to segregate the data.
I got two more FOIA into these guys.
Maybe I will add another FOIA. Did jones tell the truth when he represented that it would take too long? Did he merely say that to thwart access to the data?