The Climate Skeptics Party launch 4 television ads in Australia

This is likely to cause a bit of a stir. Michael  from the Climate Skeptics Party in Australia writes in Tips and Notes:

The TCS ad campaign hit the airwaves last night in Australia. I thought you might be interested and post them on your website.

Here are the other TV advertisements:

Kind Regards

Michael

The Climate Sceptics

Policy and Media Unit

Townsville Qld

email: climatesceptics.policy.media@gmail.com

website: http://www.climatesceptics.com.au

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Paul Vaughan
November 19, 2009 11:23 am

Vincent (09:19:03) “The fourth ad […] is a very big mistake and will turn off […]”
Agree 100%.
Ad 4 is exactly what I would expect from alarmists posing as deniers to subvert & undermine.
I would show no mercy to the designer of that ad. Fired.

DonS
November 19, 2009 11:24 am

Sounds here like the UK needs another round of pirate broadcasting. Anybody here remember the offshore pirate radio vessels of the 60s which dragged the BBC, kicking and screaming, into the age of rock and roll? How about using the same tactic to drag it out of mindless support of AGW?
Oh well, probably get sunk by the EU Navy. Pirating ain’t what it was when the UK was a society of laws which guaranteed individual freedoms.

November 19, 2009 11:30 am

Alan Love
Unless the Tories change their environmental policies then UKIP will certainly be getting my vote.
It’s the most common sense proposal I’ve read.
Keep up the good work, and I’d suggest using it more prominently in party political broadcasts as I think it would strike a chord with voters.

November 19, 2009 11:34 am

Telboy (06:56:11), Nick T (09:25:19)
There have, supposedly, been hundreds of complaints to the ASA about the ‘Act on CO2’ adverts, though whether anything’s come of them I don’t know. The latest one claiming cars to be the biggest contributor of CO2 is factually inaccurate. But the head of the Environment Agency, Lord Smith, ex Labour MP and all-round government toadie, also happens to be chairman of the ASA, an example of what’s described in Alan Love’s (11:07:12) post.

Icarus
November 19, 2009 11:50 am

Smokey (10:16:30) : Icarus, You talk about cherry picking, then fail to define ‘recorded history’. If by recorded history you mean from 1979, when we started the first accurate record of global temp measurements, you are correct.
I meant since instrumental records began –
https://sites.google.com/site/europa62/climatechange/sngtaco21870

November 19, 2009 12:06 pm

Icarus,
OK, Since the late 1800’s. Thanks.

November 19, 2009 12:12 pm
chillybean
November 19, 2009 12:15 pm

DonS (11:24:13) :
Anybody here remember the offshore pirate radio vessels of the 60s which dragged the BBC, kicking and screaming, into the age of rock and roll?
Oh yes.
‘Radio Caroline’
Loved it.

NikFromNYC
November 19, 2009 12:15 pm

RealClimate claims to debunk Miskolczi’s work here:
http://www.realclimate.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ferenc_Miskolczi
On the exact same Wiki site though they claim to “debunk” the lag of CO2 behind T in ice cores. They do so using bizarre hand-waving arguments that are quite embarrassing:
http://www.realclimate.org/wiki/index.php?title=CO2_doesn%27t_lead%2C_it_lags
Really sad stuff in the later. And only one paragraph in the former. Miskolczi’s work has indeed not been challenged well if a single tiny blurb is the only counter argument. That his theory seems impossible to spell out intuitively though may explain why it is not well known. A TV advert that flashes page after page of differential equations is not exactly convincing. In the context of a TV ad it becomes an undesirable Proof by Verbosity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_verbosity

RW
November 19, 2009 12:27 pm

They think they are being conned, do they? It’s easy to think that if you’re not intelligent enough to understand science. The first ad simply presents yet again the extraordinarily stupid idea that the last ten years is all we need to look at. They are conning themselves.

November 19, 2009 12:38 pm

Great work for two reasons. Firstly to get the truth out there. Secondly it will make politicians sit back and take stock that this isn’t going to be a lay down mazair after all and that their butts are on the line!
Also if you are Australian and want to write to a senator there email addresses are listed here on Steve Fielding’s site;
http://www.stevefielding.com.au/forums/viewthread/466/
Also anti ETS rally tonight in Sydney Roseville Returned Services Memorial Club – 64 Pacific Highway Roseville 6pm Friday 20th November – radio discussion here;
http://www.2gb.com.au/index.php?option=com_podcasting&task=view&id=2&Itemid=41

RobJM
November 19, 2009 12:52 pm

All you need to do is put the question in the mind of the viewers, they will then seek out the answers. Especially when their hip pocket is involved!

Kath
November 19, 2009 12:53 pm

M White (10:32:36) :
“Cherry picked from over 400,000 years ago
http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcdiac.esd.ornl.gov%2Ftrends%2Ftemp%2Fvostok%2Fgraphics%2Ftempplot5.gif
A very interesting plot from Vostok. It would seem that homo sapiens, from the start of recorded history around 8k years ago, have been living in fairly mild conditions.

Keith Minto
November 19, 2009 1:05 pm

” chillybean (12:15:28) :
DonS (11:24:13) :
Anybody here remember the offshore pirate radio vessels of the 60s which dragged the BBC, kicking and screaming, into the age of rock and roll?
Oh yes.
‘Radio Caroline’
Loved it.”
Loved it too, brings back memories of my 2yr stint in London, at the tail end of Pirate radio. Then the BBC came in with a limp copy after they were banned.
Wasn’t it “Radio Caroline 199” ?

Interglacial John
November 19, 2009 1:15 pm

I love hearing the alarmists (ie Icarus) discuss “cherry picking”, it opens the discussion of the junk science used to “prove” AGW. Alarmists have no choice but to cherry pick and cherry plant facts. Always start by asking about the very special and very few trees (not cherry) used to manufacture false temperature records, it had both of their favorite cherry flavors.

Icarus
November 19, 2009 1:18 pm

Polar bears and BBQ sauce (10:48:33) : Icarus (10:01:26) :
Most folks here have seen charts beginning many thousands or hundreds of thousands of years ago, so we fully understand where temp has risen and fallen.

Indeed, but none of that has anything to do with anthropogenic global warming. We weren’t capable of having any significant effect on the climate that long ago.
This campaign merely points out that the current trends are not up, but down.
And it’s clearly mistaken, as anyone can see – the current trend is a warming of around 0.2C per decade, and has been for several decades.

November 19, 2009 1:19 pm

Today I am a proud Aussie. And when a silly rag like Spiegel is starting to shift position, you wonder about even sillier rags like the Guardian and NYT. Watching those two try to move away without losing face will be sheer spectator sport for me.

Keith Minto
November 19, 2009 1:42 pm

twawki (12:38:22) :
Thanks for the last link to the Alan Jones site. Alan Jones is a Sydney radio commentator and is syndicated across the eastern states and is politically very influential. Look at pages 2 and 3 for interviews with Andrew Bolt and Prof.Lindzen. Unfortunately Jones never shuts up long enough to let the good Prof. speak more than one sentence at a time but this exposure is good.
Our outspoken Senator Nick Minchen last night in parliament said that calling Carbon a pollutant was simply “insane”.
Things are moving rapidly down here, the heat wave must be raising our metabolism.

chillybean
November 19, 2009 1:51 pm

Keith Minto
Wasn’t it “Radio Caroline 199″ ?
A later 70’s incarnation but still admirable.

Icarus
November 19, 2009 1:59 pm

maz2 (10:59:07) :
“Global warming appears to have stalled. Climatologists are puzzled as to why average global temperatures have stopped rising over the last 10 years

Otherwise, however, not much is happening with global warming at the moment. The Earth’s average temperatures have stopped climbing since the beginning of the millennium, and it even looks as though global warming could come to a standstill this year.”

Clearly none of this is true –
https://sites.google.com/site/europa62/climatechange/yvtayto200
Nothing in the last ten years looks like any change at all from the warming trend of around 0.2C per decade. Just look at the data.
Now, perhaps in 10 years’ time, if we haven’t seen any new record high global average temperatures, you could legitimately claim that there has been a significant change to the warming trend, but right now there is no difference at all between the last ten years and any other ten year period you care to choose in the last several decades. There is just the normal interannual variation superimposed on the warming trend.

November 19, 2009 2:05 pm

The political climate is becoming interesting here in Australia…the opposition is starting to talk tough against AGW. Lets hope they dont throw in the towel in the upcoming senate vote.

November 19, 2009 2:10 pm

Thanks Anthony for posting our ads and all the comments everyone has made. This campaign has been made on a shoestring and fresh air. I accept some of you are not happy about ad 4 but think about it. In the mainstream media how many people have been exposed to even 1 sceptical paper. We took the risk of showing this paper because to our knowledge it has not been successfully rebutted.
In a day and age when every second news story is about another scientific report that agrees with AGW we just had no choice but to be controversial and lead with our chin.
With more money and resources we can make a big difference in Australia. Already today the winds of change are blowing through the Coalition and Malcolm Turnbulls leadership is in it’s deaththroes. It is to the Climate Sceptics credit that all the lobbying and conversations we have had with many Liberal and National politicians is bearing fruit.
It’s time all of us stood up and said to our Governments no more. The con is over.

Ross Williams
November 19, 2009 2:17 pm

I regularly read this site and I am Australian but I do not watch TV so without coming here I may not have ever known about the adverts. Thanks for sharing, I will pass it on to people I know. Keep up the good work!

Icarus
November 19, 2009 3:31 pm

MikeP (11:03:05): Icarus is a little loose with his certainties, as I’m sure you must have noticed. He also thinks that it is readily apparent that the atmosphere warms the ocean.
If you have an Earth which is in equilibrium, and you heat up the atmosphere, some of that heat *has* to go into the oceans. SLoT and all that. Agreed? To suggest otherwise would be to deny the laws of physics.

janama
November 19, 2009 3:32 pm

I have to say I think they are very amateurish productions – popping microphones, bad sound, unprofessional Voice talent and camera work.
Very dissappointing.

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